I have looked but even the used with 999999 miles on it and they want big money. Just not in the cards. But I love watching your channel and seeing you enjoy your 460!
yes there is. opt on the overtrail to delete the moon roof , best looking wagon /S.U.V. out there for 2024 and no 3rd row for us who dont want, need or will ever use a 3rd row
Excited to see this vehicle in person. I really enjoy your videos; and detailed explanations. Appreciate you man! Will you be looking to upgrade in next 3 or 4 years?
I wish they would’ve made the GX 550 with the engine that was either in the LX 570 or the Toyota Land Cruiser. I just wish the GX 550 would’ve had a naturally aspirated V8 or V6 engine. I don’t believe that a twin turbo is good for off-road that’s just my personal opinion.🇯🇵🤍❤️ Great video as always I will say this if the GX 550 does not remove the turbos I will wait till the last year it is manufactured I’m guessing it’s going to be 2029 because I buy about every six years I want a GX 550 that’s fully loaded like the GX 460 and 2023 finally got fully loaded it’s just better that way to me because all the bugs are taken out and for them being so conservative they always wait till the last year it’s manufactured to do that and I’ve been doing that since 1990 with the LS400…❤
Why the hell do I want a monstrosity of a vehicle with options I pay a premium for that I will never use? I'm practical and not sold on hype. I'm very happy and content with my Lexus GX 460 sport package. It has everything I need and more especially when it comes to practicality and reliability. Love the naturally aspirated V8, you can keep your turbos for all I care.
These are food for thought videos exploring the topic, not my personal ideology... what matters is YOU, the potential GX550 buyer... tell Lexus what YOU think...
I would actually pay more money to buy a GX470 or GX460 over the new GX550. The NEW GX will cost more to maintain and will be less forgiving so it will cost more.
I hate the fact that Lexus has joined the other manufacturers making you pay to play. They've taken away standard/optional features & locked them to the luxury/overtrail trims.
Turbos are consumables, there is no way around that. How many Turbos does it take to run the GX for 300K miles over 25 years? What is the cost of a replacement turbo, parts and labor, 3K-4K? Does the motor need to come out like the Tundra to maintain the two turbo's. I expect in 6-10 years the GX will start costing 'Audi money' to maintain. If I wanted a high strung overly complicated small performance motor with the associated maintenance I would buy an Audi. I don't see these selling as well as well as the 2nd gen did, not to the existing customer base.
@@flight2k5 I agree they can be abused. But they are consumables and wear out due to normal use. I expect a toyota/lexus motors to last 300K miles, I would not expect any turbo to last that long, not even on a toyota.
@@flight2k5 GX460 wears out at 400K-500K. -GX320- GX560 Turbo maybe 150K, at a cost of 15 to 20k over that 400K miles. The E-steering is great, for the manufacture it is much cheaper to produce than the hydro steering, but it's way better because it is new, right? The short wheelbase was an advantage in a parking lot or offroad but it is cheaper for the manufacture to build one platform for 6 or 7 vehicles, much CHEAPER, leads to big compromises like the longer wheelbase leading to a larger turning circle. No thanks! Good luck and enjoy that 1 MPG increase.
The E-KDSS is only available in the OVERTRAIL EDITION. All other models GX550 will have the standard KDSS System. Also the sway bar on the EKDSS OVERTRAIL MODEL is beefy, thick. Look it up. Thanks for the video brother. I love the narration and the immense research you put in your videos. I just finished watching your video on the GX550 Recalls and I truly loved it which prompted me to look up your videos. Thanks again.
I love your videos and I'm constantly watching them . However, you are or at least i think you are comparing the 460.470 and the GX 550 OVERTRAIL, not the other 550 trims. I'd love to hear you focus on what is lacking on the premium and luxury models.
Not sure why you’re selling this new one so hard. Shouldn’t we wait and see? I don’t know what it’s going to be like yet but they definitely used less robust materials.
for me, the 460 wins as far as size and the V8. I know everyone is going to say the 6 CYL twin turbo is the future but I have had Turbo vehicles and I don't like turbo lag, I don't like the heat turbos give off and the extra wear and tear on the engine. We will see, but I know the Tundra engine which is the same as far as I know is having issues. I picked up my 2023 460 a week ago and am impressed with it. I will wait for a couple of years, work out the bugs. My Lexus dealer told me the introduction of the 550 is delayed until September. IMO it is too big and has the new Toyota look like the RX. I think they wrote out Lexus on the rear end so you wouldn't mistake it for a Toyota
I’m with you. 23 GX 460 bought in December. All the plumbing needed to lube and cool the turbos is the weak point compounded by the lack of access to repair any of it. I’m coming from F150 TT V6 where they have to disassemble the vehicle to work on it. Yeah that’s gonna turn out well from a dealer 😅. Eff that. Sure we have higher expectations for Toyota but I’ll wait. The tundra already had issues with waste gates. If I could afford two 23 GXs I’d buy two.
Well, the Prado will be made on the same platform for us who live abroad, and that’s where the conundrum begins: The 300 series is the same size as the Prado now, so there’s no real perk on paying life for the 300 aside for the bigger diesel engine. Cheers bro!
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD They will sell the Prado in every market still, and the 300 alongside. Thing is, the Prado diesel comes with the 2.8, while the 300 comes with the sweet sweet V6 TDI, and gas engines will probably be limited to the hybrid in the Prado while the 300 gets the V6TT. I see the bright side, you will finally get the Prado in LC250 form hehehe
like the109'" well base same with 4runner best trail rigs , GX460 needed to be more utilitarian less luxury no 3rd row and what was Lexus thinking on the GX460 front chin ? Running boards ? .....like the v8 engine just makes it better on the hills I can. live with the GX550 v6 but LC250 4 cy have to be very basic trim no options might consider
118" wb on the 4 dr wrangler 116" 4dr bronco , 116" grand Cherokee , 119" defender 110. 115" wheel base enios grenadier ,115 " discovery 113" MB g wagon.... so the 112" wb GX 550/LC 250 still better wheel base
Huh. I had no idea Yamaha made Toyota engines. Makes sense why my 18 year old 4Runner v8 never had a problem lol. Thanks for the further education. Waiting on 2025 now. By the way, the last of the GX460s at my local dealer are selling for less than $60k. Not the luxury models though lol.
Yamaha doesnt make toyota engines. They make the high flow head design on non-F engines. The G in the name of the high performance engine is the code for a yamaha head design. But the block, internals etc, are all toyota designs. The 5SFE is a 100% toyota design, but the 4AGE is a toyota block, toyota internals, and the high flow yamaha head design. the breakdown in the code: 4 = generation A = engine code (series) G = high flow yamaha head E = electronic fuel injection.. things that are added to this.. Z = supercharged T = Turbo charged.. then there's one off's where the above doesnt count.. like the 1ZZFE vs 2ZZGE vs 2ZZGZE vs 1ZZFED which is the 1ZZ is a generation and design name, generation but not supercharged.. F is fuel efficient, or small port non-yamaha designed head, E is still electronic fuel injection, D on an 1zzfed is the celica and mr2 spyder version, they have a forged crank and rods. The 2zzGe is the gts celica engine and 2nd gen of the zz platform with a G or yamaha head, the E is still electronic fuel injection but the trailing Z is the supercharged version found in the lotus.. Alternately you could get the 3MZFZE which was the 3rd gen MZ v6 with the F or non-yamaha head and the Z or supercharger (TRD) and the E or electronic fuel injection found in the TRD solara.. But not all toyotas get a yamaha head, and the same block generation.. like a 3SFE vs 3SGE are not the same block, the F motor ack oil coolers, and have a different skirt design meaning you can't just slap a G head on an F engine, but everything built from the head down is a toyota design..
I agree that the GX550 is an improvement on the GX460. Even more to your point, Toyota, via GX Chief Engineer, Koji Tsukasaki, claims the move to the longer wheelbase is also an improvement. They (Lexus) claim the new 112.2 in. is the Golden Ratio, meaning that it is the best wheelbase optimization for On-road and Off-road manners. Which rings more like production line optimization (streamlining) to me than an actual science. Why make two different wheelbases? Lexus has cut the costs, and this is good for their pockets. Yet, we adore the Prado (now dinosaur-ed) over the bulk of the LC200/LC300 for the very reason that it had a shorter wheelbase for better Off-road manners. If this science is granted, my question is, considering the merit of the wheelbase debate, how can Lexus (let alone its Chief Engineer) make the claim that the GX550 Overtrail(+), especially, is an improvement on the GX460 when in natural fact, the supposed rich, middle-aged, single guy/gal, who's being lured to dish out the (in)surmountable expense, and who's craving alone-time (away from his other "busy" friends at the office) away in the wilderness with a GX Overtrail (+) could care less about the On-road improved mannerisms of the longer wheelbase Off-roader? (I can make do with a Corolla for better On-road manners!) All that to ask: Why kill the the old Prado for this species of a bachelor/spinster, however rare or extinct? The engineer sounds more and more, the more I pay attention to him, like a telemarketer trying to sell me the extra benefit of On-road manners, which I don't need and never asked for, for an arm plus a leg, in a GX with the simple mystification of a Golden Ratio? Why are we trying to improve the On-road manners at a considerable cost for a vehicle that is heavily being advertised as an Off-road new elephant at the expense of the wheelbase that made the GX the proper legend Off-road? Your thoughts?
Great points. I think "Golden Ratio" is manufacturing prattle for consolidation. I mean isn't that the whole point of TNGAF? Cram all the trucks and SUVs on 1 platform and change the colors and bells around a bit... they killed off some platforms and the little Landcruiser got the ax. FJ Cruiser smallness is looking very special now.... saw one today.. a small sight to behold in this new era of TNGAF-only Toyota trucks 😢
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD "I mean isn't that the whole point of TNGAF?" Exactly! The Cookie-Cutter approach flies in the face of all Engineering & Design. SAMENESS is now being imposed willy-nilly on all these trucks. Yes, the FJ Cruiser, all of a sudden, is looking not only special, even more upscale than the LX600, which is looking more like a Lexified Honda Pilot than a Land Cruiser. The shame of it. But, I'll keep an open mind.
Not speaking personally... sorry if it came across that way... I mean the rear locker may matter to the average buyer! ie seen as an improvement over the outgoing model.
Great information once again!! I just put $500 down on the new Land Cruiser 250. (waiting list). Did I choose wrong? lol ;). I know this thing is awesome, but I just don't "love" the exterior and interior color options. I'm going Underground LC, with hopefully a solid black interior. Time will tell. 😎
The prado main competitor is Mitsubishi pajero. Now, after Toyota changed the design and made it bigger i dont know what new prado compete with what. Prado competitors: Pajeo Patrol y61
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Yes and no at the same time Actually, the patrol y61 became a direct competitor to Land Cruiser 70. Ford everest and Isuzu MUX are competitors to Toyota fortune. KNOW THE CARS
I thought you said this was the landcruiser 300 GR sport?… 🤦 and the Prado is not discontinued, it’s still going to be around. It’s the new 250 platform. So much misinformation here …. 🤦
The Prado is DEAD... the Prado was a short wheelbase and on an entirely different platform than the LC200. The LC300 and LC250 ate BOTH on the same TNGAF platform now. The Prado/GX used to be a pony, and the LC200 was a horse. Now both are horses. Only people who actually offroad Toyotas will understand this... others will simply look at the "Prado" sticker on the LC250 or the "Landcruiser" sticker on the USA LC250 and smile and clap 🐒
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD the Prado is all but dead. The nameplate is still around. And the Prado is still what it was before, the baby landcruiser. Just the next generation of that. You said you weren’t giving opinions, Only facts. But yet you are. If we are stating opinions, then one can say the landcruiser died with the old 80 series when they had solid front axles. If you ask anyone that hard wheels their vehicles, solid front axles are the way to go. And as for the frame, Toyota has switched ALL body on frame vehicles to the new TNGAF platform. So this includes the 4Runner, Land Cruiser and it’s variants, tacoma, tundra and sequoia. Is the new architecture they will be using moving forward.
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Step out of the US for a minute and educate yourself. Let me know how many Prado's you see being driven around especially by the rich and famous especially in Africa. The Prado is the Hilux for the monied folks and it's not going anywhere.
Too bad I'm a poor! Can only dream...
you can do it!! Get a GX470... basically the same vehicle 😃
A dream is a wish your heart makes.
I have looked but even the used with 999999 miles on it and they want big money. Just not in the cards. But I love watching your channel and seeing you enjoy your 460!
@@D.Dragoon more beautiful words hath never been spoken 🥲
Almost bought the 460, but as soon as the family jumped in, that idea died fast. Got the 23 Sequoia in the end
I love my 23' Micro Land Cruiser😅🤟
Yes yes, and I love my 2019 micro Land Cruiser premium as well!
GX550 is the best car money can buy
yes there is. opt on the overtrail to delete the moon roof , best looking wagon /S.U.V. out there for 2024 and no 3rd row for us who dont want, need or will ever use a 3rd row
Maybe so, but certainly not anywhere close to $20K+ better. And what about the reliability/durability unknowns? Keep the GX460
Excited to see this vehicle in person. I really enjoy your videos; and detailed explanations. Appreciate you man! Will you be looking to upgrade in next 3 or 4 years?
GX550 reminds me KIA SOUL😀
I wish they would’ve made the GX 550 with the engine that was either in the LX 570 or the Toyota Land Cruiser. I just wish the GX 550 would’ve had a naturally aspirated V8 or V6 engine. I don’t believe that a twin turbo is good for off-road that’s just my personal opinion.🇯🇵🤍❤️ Great video as always I will say this if the GX 550 does not remove the turbos I will wait till the last year it is manufactured I’m guessing it’s going to be 2029 because I buy about every six years I want a GX 550 that’s fully loaded like the GX 460 and 2023 finally got fully loaded it’s just better that way to me because all the bugs are taken out and for them being so conservative they always wait till the last year it’s manufactured to do that and I’ve been doing that since 1990 with the LS400…❤
Why the hell do I want a monstrosity of a vehicle with options I pay a premium for that I will never use? I'm practical and not sold on hype. I'm very happy and content with my Lexus GX 460 sport package. It has everything I need and more especially when it comes to practicality and reliability. Love the naturally aspirated V8, you can keep your turbos for all I care.
I thought you made a video stating that you weren't interested in one? Have your thoughts/feelings changed?
These are food for thought videos exploring the topic, not my personal ideology... what matters is YOU, the potential GX550 buyer... tell Lexus what YOU think...
Improved front grill/bumper too
I would actually pay more money to buy a GX470 or GX460 over the new GX550.
The NEW GX will cost more to maintain and will be less forgiving so it will cost more.
new GX550 rant video on what you mentioned coming soon... please 🙏 stay tuned ❤️
Can you make a video about the new Land Cruiser 250 ?
th-cam.com/video/MR7UJO7gPg8/w-d-xo.html
Unlimited is the term for the 4 door. Rubicon is a trim level
thanks 😊
I hate the fact that Lexus has joined the other manufacturers making you pay to play. They've taken away standard/optional features & locked them to the luxury/overtrail trims.
agree, not kewl... not kewl at all... especially honey 🍯 potting e-KDSS on the OT trims 😢
E-KDSS is electronic. I still prefer hydraulic.
Good discussion points…..I’m sold on the GX550! Keep Grinding!!! 👍🏾✌🏾
Turbos are consumables, there is no way around that. How many Turbos does it take to run the GX for 300K miles over 25 years? What is the cost of a replacement turbo, parts and labor, 3K-4K? Does the motor need to come out like the Tundra to maintain the two turbo's. I expect in 6-10 years the GX will start costing 'Audi money' to maintain. If I wanted a high strung overly complicated small performance motor with the associated maintenance I would buy an Audi. I don't see these selling as well as well as the 2nd gen did, not to the existing customer base.
The reason turbos go out prematurely is because of the owner. Plain and simple
@@flight2k5 I agree they can be abused. But they are consumables and wear out due to normal use. I expect a toyota/lexus motors to last 300K miles, I would not expect any turbo to last that long, not even on a toyota.
@@nightdipper5178 just like anything mechanical wears out. So please don’t use that as justification as to why you think the 460 is better
@@flight2k5 GX460 wears out at 400K-500K. -GX320- GX560 Turbo maybe 150K, at a cost of 15 to 20k over that 400K miles. The E-steering is great, for the manufacture it is much cheaper to produce than the hydro steering, but it's way better because it is new, right? The short wheelbase was an advantage in a parking lot or offroad but it is cheaper for the manufacture to build one platform for 6 or 7 vehicles, much CHEAPER, leads to big compromises like the longer wheelbase leading to a larger turning circle. No thanks! Good luck and enjoy that 1 MPG increase.
@@nightdipper5178 damn are you a time traveler? That’s funny. E steering is so much simpler that hydronic steering 🤣😂
2013 was the last year of the great gx460....
I wonder if we'll ever get a self driving Gx - for emergencies; or solar panels that power heat and cooling - that'll save alot of lives.
Previous version looked way better
The E-KDSS is only available in the OVERTRAIL EDITION. All other models GX550 will have the standard KDSS System. Also the sway bar on the EKDSS OVERTRAIL MODEL is beefy, thick. Look it up.
Thanks for the video brother. I love the narration and the immense research you put in your videos. I just finished watching your video on the GX550 Recalls and I truly loved it which prompted me to look up your videos.
Thanks again.
GX550 gets e-kdss on the OT and OT+, the other GX550 trims do NOT get kdss or e-kdss
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD thanks for clarifying the oversight
I love your videos and I'm constantly watching them . However, you are or at least i think you are comparing the 460.470 and the GX 550 OVERTRAIL, not the other 550 trims. I'd love to hear you focus on what is lacking on the premium and luxury models.
Thank you 🙏 for your support... we will produce a video on the topic you requested soon ❤️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD will look forward to it. Thank You
Not sure why you’re selling this new one so hard. Shouldn’t we wait and see? I don’t know what it’s going to be like yet but they definitely used less robust materials.
for me, the 460 wins as far as size and the V8. I know everyone is going to say the 6 CYL twin turbo is the future but I have had Turbo vehicles and I don't like turbo lag, I don't like the heat turbos give off and the extra wear and tear on the engine. We will see, but I know the Tundra engine which is the same as far as I know is having issues. I picked up my 2023 460 a week ago and am impressed with it. I will wait for a couple of years, work out the bugs. My Lexus dealer told me the introduction of the 550 is delayed until September. IMO it is too big and has the new Toyota look like the RX. I think they wrote out Lexus on the rear end so you wouldn't mistake it for a Toyota
wow September?! 😆 🤣 ... 😢
I’m with you. 23 GX 460 bought in December. All the plumbing needed to lube and cool the turbos is the weak point compounded by the lack of access to repair any of it. I’m coming from F150 TT V6 where they have to disassemble the vehicle to work on it. Yeah that’s gonna turn out well from a dealer 😅. Eff that. Sure we have higher expectations for Toyota but I’ll wait. The tundra already had issues with waste gates. If I could afford two 23 GXs I’d buy two.
The dealer told me September. Can’t vouch for that but it’s what he told me.
At least all trims of the GX460 gave you the third row as an option.
Well, the Prado will be made on the same platform for us who live abroad, and that’s where the conundrum begins: The 300 series is the same size as the Prado now, so there’s no real perk on paying life for the 300 aside for the bigger diesel engine. Cheers bro!
hence the Prado being a dead platform... they can play around with the naming... but the Prado platform has been deleted
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD They will sell the Prado in every market still, and the 300 alongside. Thing is, the Prado diesel comes with the 2.8, while the 300 comes with the sweet sweet V6 TDI, and gas engines will probably be limited to the hybrid in the Prado while the 300 gets the V6TT. I see the bright side, you will finally get the Prado in LC250 form hehehe
like the109'" well base same with 4runner best trail rigs , GX460 needed to be more utilitarian less luxury no 3rd row and what was Lexus thinking on the GX460 front chin ? Running boards ? .....like the v8 engine just makes it better on the hills I can. live with the GX550 v6 but LC250 4 cy have to be very basic trim no options might consider
118" wb on the 4 dr wrangler 116" 4dr bronco , 116" grand Cherokee , 119" defender 110. 115" wheel base enios grenadier ,115 " discovery 113" MB g wagon.... so the 112" wb GX 550/LC 250 still better wheel base
In my opinion, since Toyota didn't announce short wheel base prado, i think the 4runner could be the replacement of the short wheels base prado
109" wheel base would be ideal
We have Lexus GX550 Luxury + (called Sports Luxury in Australia). Would love to see a review on this specific model :)
Huh. I had no idea Yamaha made Toyota engines. Makes sense why my 18 year old 4Runner v8 never had a problem lol. Thanks for the further education. Waiting on 2025 now. By the way, the last of the GX460s at my local dealer are selling for less than $60k. Not the luxury models though lol.
Yamaha! Even the classic 4 bangers in the Corolla and Camrys were Yamahas like the legendary 5SFE engine!
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADwhat are the Yamaha engines used in Toyotas nowadays, if you know?
Yamaha doesnt make toyota engines. They make the high flow head design on non-F engines. The G in the name of the high performance engine is the code for a yamaha head design. But the block, internals etc, are all toyota designs. The 5SFE is a 100% toyota design, but the 4AGE is a toyota block, toyota internals, and the high flow yamaha head design.
the breakdown in the code:
4 = generation
A = engine code (series)
G = high flow yamaha head
E = electronic fuel injection..
things that are added to this..
Z = supercharged
T = Turbo charged..
then there's one off's where the above doesnt count..
like the 1ZZFE vs 2ZZGE vs 2ZZGZE vs 1ZZFED
which is the 1ZZ is a generation and design name, generation but not supercharged.. F is fuel efficient, or small port non-yamaha designed head, E is still electronic fuel injection, D on an 1zzfed is the celica and mr2 spyder version, they have a forged crank and rods.
The 2zzGe is the gts celica engine and 2nd gen of the zz platform with a G or yamaha head, the E is still electronic fuel injection but the trailing Z is the supercharged version found in the lotus.. Alternately you could get the 3MZFZE which was the 3rd gen MZ v6 with the F or non-yamaha head and the Z or supercharger (TRD) and the E or electronic fuel injection found in the TRD solara..
But not all toyotas get a yamaha head, and the same block generation.. like a 3SFE vs 3SGE are not the same block, the F motor ack oil coolers, and have a different skirt design meaning you can't just slap a G head on an F engine, but everything built from the head down is a toyota design..
I agree that the GX550 is an improvement on the GX460. Even more to your point, Toyota, via GX Chief Engineer, Koji Tsukasaki, claims the move to the longer wheelbase is also an improvement. They (Lexus) claim the new 112.2 in. is the Golden Ratio, meaning that it is the best wheelbase optimization for On-road and Off-road manners. Which rings more like production line optimization (streamlining) to me than an actual science. Why make two different wheelbases? Lexus has cut the costs, and this is good for their pockets.
Yet, we adore the Prado (now dinosaur-ed) over the bulk of the LC200/LC300 for the very reason that it had a shorter wheelbase for better Off-road manners. If this science is granted, my question is, considering the merit of the wheelbase debate, how can Lexus (let alone its Chief Engineer) make the claim that the GX550 Overtrail(+), especially, is an improvement on the GX460 when in natural fact, the supposed rich, middle-aged, single guy/gal, who's being lured to dish out the (in)surmountable expense, and who's craving alone-time (away from his other "busy" friends at the office) away in the wilderness with a GX Overtrail (+) could care less about the On-road improved mannerisms of the longer wheelbase Off-roader? (I can make do with a Corolla for better On-road manners!)
All that to ask: Why kill the the old Prado for this species of a bachelor/spinster, however rare or extinct? The engineer sounds more and more, the more I pay attention to him, like a telemarketer trying to sell me the extra benefit of On-road manners, which I don't need and never asked for, for an arm plus a leg, in a GX with the simple mystification of a Golden Ratio? Why are we trying to improve the On-road manners at a considerable cost for a vehicle that is heavily being advertised as an Off-road new elephant at the expense of the wheelbase that made the GX the proper legend Off-road? Your thoughts?
Great points. I think "Golden Ratio" is manufacturing prattle for consolidation. I mean isn't that the whole point of TNGAF? Cram all the trucks and SUVs on 1 platform and change the colors and bells around a bit... they killed off some platforms and the little Landcruiser got the ax. FJ Cruiser smallness is looking very special now.... saw one today.. a small sight to behold in this new era of TNGAF-only Toyota trucks 😢
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD "I mean isn't that the whole point of TNGAF?" Exactly! The Cookie-Cutter approach flies in the face of all Engineering & Design. SAMENESS is now being imposed willy-nilly on all these trucks. Yes, the FJ Cruiser, all of a sudden, is looking not only special, even more upscale than the LX600, which is looking more like a Lexified Honda Pilot than a Land Cruiser. The shame of it. But, I'll keep an open mind.
wait for the 2025. never buy the first gen of any tech or redesign.
Why does the rear locker matter if you think A-trac is sufficient?
Not speaking personally... sorry if it came across that way... I mean the rear locker may matter to the average buyer! ie seen as an improvement over the outgoing model.
Great information once again!! I just put $500 down on the new Land Cruiser 250. (waiting list).
Did I choose wrong? lol ;). I know this thing is awesome, but I just don't "love" the exterior and interior color options. I'm going Underground LC, with hopefully a solid black interior. Time will tell. 😎
The right answer is what YOU like... listen to nobody else but your heart ❤️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Word!!
The prado main competitor is Mitsubishi pajero. Now, after Toyota changed the design and made it bigger i dont know what new prado compete with what.
Prado competitors:
Pajeo
Patrol y61
ford Everest, Isuzu md -u ? y61 patrol is more extra large wagon like the LC300 some of us in the U.S. know the cars
@youtubecarspottersguide1
Yes and no at the same time
Actually, the patrol y61 became a direct competitor to Land Cruiser 70.
Ford everest and Isuzu MUX are competitors to Toyota fortune. KNOW THE CARS
@@mohammeds5458 LC 70 wagon now has a 4cy turbo diesel my fav would be a LC 70 serries troop carrier but not sold in the U.S . Toyota fortunner
@youtubecarspottersguide1
Many cars that you're deprived from.
@@mohammeds5458 and diesels
But they still calling this new platform the prado 🤷🏼
I thought you said this was the landcruiser 300 GR sport?… 🤦 and the Prado is not discontinued, it’s still going to be around. It’s the new 250 platform. So much misinformation here …. 🤦
The Prado is DEAD... the Prado was a short wheelbase and on an entirely different platform than the LC200. The LC300 and LC250 ate BOTH on the same TNGAF platform now. The Prado/GX used to be a pony, and the LC200 was a horse. Now both are horses. Only people who actually offroad Toyotas will understand this... others will simply look at the "Prado" sticker on the LC250 or the "Landcruiser" sticker on the USA LC250 and smile and clap 🐒
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD the Prado is all but dead. The nameplate is still around. And the Prado is still what it was before, the baby landcruiser. Just the next generation of that. You said you weren’t giving opinions, Only facts. But yet you are. If we are stating opinions, then one can say the landcruiser died with the old 80 series when they had solid front axles. If you ask anyone that hard wheels their vehicles, solid front axles are the way to go. And as for the frame, Toyota has switched ALL body on frame vehicles to the new TNGAF platform. So this includes the 4Runner, Land Cruiser and it’s variants, tacoma, tundra and sequoia. Is the new architecture they will be using moving forward.
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Step out of the US for a minute and educate yourself. Let me know how many Prado's you see being driven around especially by the rich and famous especially in Africa. The Prado is the Hilux for the monied folks and it's not going anywhere.