Rooting Creality K1 & K1 Max - Why & How
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- I have been getting more and more questions about Rooting the K1 and K1 Max. So, here is the what and the why!
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IN THIS VIDEO:
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⚪️ Creality K1 (Code TIER15, $484): shrsl.com/4a6wj
⚪️ Creality K1 Max (Code TIER50, $849): shrsl.com/4a6wk
⚪️ Helper Script: github.com/Guilouz/Creality-K...
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TIMESTAMPS:
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0:00 - What & Why
2:01 - Creality Print Overview
3:20 - Fluidd Overview
7:10 - Helper Script by Guilouz
8:01 - Installing the OpenSource Firmware
9:43 - Installing the Script
11:44 - Installing Fluidd & Mainsail
12:42 - Installing Extra Scripts
14:20 - Installing KAMP!
17:14 - Installing Camera Settings Control
18:37 - Categorize your Macros
19:06 - Fix Input Shaper!
23:21 - Run FIXED Input Shaper
25:43 - Summary & Closing
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Whatever you do - if you SSH to the device - don't change the root password, it can cause (nearly?) irreversible issues such as continuous reboots.
Why does that happen? Isn't that a huge security vulnerability? I'd definitely want to change the password.
@@lornelorne5727 If your printer is exposed to the internet, YES. My guess would be - since no one is supposed to be able to sign into the machine (without being jailbroken), it’d be a moot point so they hardcoded credentials into services?
I wonder if changing the ssh *port* would cause similar problems? (Or even if it's possible) - if not then this could be a potential way to lock down SSH access to a certain degree, without changing the root password, or affecting locally running services on the printer which don't require network access and therefore care less about the ssh port.@@andersgeorgsson
2024/05 - Still valid video about setting all this up.
Thank you !
Thanks for this. The instructions have changed greatly since you made this video, but for the better. All of those includes that you were copy/pasting were incorporated into the script and there are many more options than before.
Thanks for sharing my work :)
I am so sorry I couldn’t pronounce your name correctly. Thank you so much for providing this for us! you’ve single handedly make this machine better for all of us. thank you.
Thank you!
Thank you sir
Big thanks from Germany ❤
One of the best video's so far I've seem about this. Great job.
Thank you! The easiest to follow video - gave me the confidence to root my machine and am now enjoying it even more.
Thanks so much for this. I got an Ender 3 almost exactly 5 years ago and have been using/modding/remodding ever since. I decided to get the K1 for Christmas and it's in the garage waiting to be unboxed on Monday per an agreement with my wife. Thanks to you I'll have plenty of fun stuff to do with it. You a great presenter and should have a lot more subs...
Thanks so much, i followed along and was very reassured, thanks for actually SHOWING us the process!!! I love my K1 now!
Very helpful video and information ! Just followed along and got this all setup on my K1 Max...feels like a new machine now. Thank you.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for very informative video!!! I've applied this to my K1 and can definitely see a huge difference in the VFA on the X-Axis after being able properly calibrate input shaping for both axis. Keep up the good work!!
Glad it was helpful!
I just bought a K1 and this video helped me a lot. Thank you very much!
Thank you for a good explanation to this process my prints are looking a lot better now.
Thank you for the very helpful video. I hope everything works as it should now. Because before with the stock firmware, the print results were much better. Since I couldn't find the page with the Inputshaper code, I had to take a photo of your video and copy the crap, BUT, it worked! Lots of love from Germany ❤❤❤❤
I came across your channel about three years ago when I got my first 3-D printer, which was a Voxlab Aquila. At the time you were the only person that had anything out there for it and I really appreciated it. I've been away from printing for about two years and I just got myself a K-1 Max.I'm happy to see that you're giving me some useful information again, thanks!
That’s pretty cool, actually. Glad you’re back in the game. :)
@@3DPrintSOS I also came across it back then, I believe it involved the modified menus. Have since built a Voron 2.4 like everyone else and now own a K1 Max.
Bought my K1 Max a couple of weeks ago, and after a night of getting frustrated with the first layer on a print, I came back to this video and rooted the printer. It was a night and day difference going from ripping up the first layer a third of the way through to a perfect layer every time. Awesome! Although some things have been added and changed with the helper script, this video really helped to get all the necessary bits going. Thanks for the walkthrough.
just hope u dont have any issues and have to have it replaced under warranty because it voided now
Thanks for the great video! I have a Max and have been searching for info on Klipper, trying to understand what it is all about and WHY I would want it. The input shaper portion looks to be the most important at the moment. Have read the info on the machine about the dangers of rooting it, so thinking now about do I want to go ahead with it. Your video explained a lot, thanks so much for sharing with us!
This is FANTASTIC! I have a K1 Max and I've done well with things stock, so far, but I've wanted to take things further. This was exactly what I needed to see since a lot of people on r/CrealityK1 seem to mostly already understand Klipper and I never really seemed to be able to find a good walkthrough for a first timer. You have my Like & Sub and I hope to see more goodies about the K1 series in the future!
thank you so much for making this video! Helpped me a lot!
Very interesting. I did not know that you were this involved in printing. Excellent job in your explanation of how things work on the inside.
Ray! Oh yeah, the nerd level is super high. haha
Nice job Fedor. Hopefully the k1 and max users will appreciate this video
I hope so too :)
thanks for your help it made it easier than i thought thank you again
Great video! Thanks for making and sharing this -- it's really quite easy :)
Glad it was helpful!
Great Video... Just what I needed. Makes the K1 and even better machine. I may have to grab another one or the k1 max.
Props for this video! I had written the K1 off as an option for corexy due to the firmware + poor customer service. After seeing how much open source firmware improved using my Ender 3, the K1 my be back on my list to consider if I can change the firmware!
Just did this today and Guiloz really popped off... in the helper script installation menu, there was an option to install "Improved Shapers Calibrations". Between that and the KAMP installation being updated in this version of the helper script, I didn't have to touch anything in any .cfg files! I was poking around to make sure I wasn't gonna leave stuff messed up but everything looked OK and my K1 is up and running with shapers dialed in & kamp adaptive mesh + line stuff going. Very convenient tool for sure. Thank you for the video and great breakdown. 😁😁
Guiloz is killin it with the script updates! :)
TF I read your comment, I just did mine and was wondering why it wasn't matching up to this video. Legend
Camera was acting a bit strange on Fluidd so I Reset my K1 Max and following your instructions again, got a good laugh at the "I'm gonna fast forward this until it's done..... Oh there we go" part again.
This is so useful. Thanks ever so much for sharing it.
Great information, Thanks! it's nice to follow along and make sure my conclusion of the instructions is the same as someone who has already tried it. Thanks to Guilouz as well. I ended up with ZV 44.6hz on Y and ZV 48hz on X for my all stock (besides Swiss nozzle) K1 Max. I plucked my belts and it sounded about right when I unboxed, perhaps I need to check again or maybe yours was done on a K1 without the lidar?
Hey Fedor! Been a while but as usual another excellent informative video and great to see the channel grow even more. Been holding off on adding a K1 Max to the farm due to the usual Creality new release issues (as usual) and the fact that I am still in love with my X1c/AMS combo but want a larger core xy. However with the open source release and the hardware fixes it may be time to pull the trigger on a Max. Looks like it is finally just about ready for primetime. Though there are solutions available a easy to integrate MMU would be welcome. Look forward to what Creality comes up with as I know there is one in the works. As always keep up the good work!
Rich! Great to hear from you. It is definitely getting closer and closer. I have been loving mine now that all the quirks are out. They still have a few to iron out but it’s close. Yeah, an MMU from Creality has been my number one request from them during our convos.
@@3DPrintSOS during the warmer weather I tend to lay back as it's car projects/modding season. Now that the weather is turning cooler and approaching hibernation season, it back to printing full swing. Interesting...what do you feel still needs to be ironed out? Yep MMU is a must. That's the problem effectively except for size limitations and cost the X1c/AMS has reduced the rest of my printers to dust collectors...lol. A larger build surface and lower cost alternative is very appealing to me. I will be grabbing a Max as soon as I clear out a few more printers to make room. Next time I see a decent sale price, which eventually will be coming knowing Creality and it's resellers I'll pull the trigger.
The input shaper for starters. We had to get a community fix for it essentially. Why? No idea. It seems like such a simple fix on their end and the end result it better quality…So I can’t see a reason for them not to do it. Just simple things like the chain and PTFE tube hitting the left side of the Max when using the full bed and making noise and rubbing plastic bits off. Dont get me wrong, its been awesome and im just nitpicking, but there are a few little details that have me rubbing my head. haha@@richm658
great video man. appreciate it
What a great introduction to installing all the firmware to get all of the advantages that can be had. My only concern is a novice user, thinking he or she wants the added functionality but has no idea about how the code basically works. It would be very easy to make mistakes that could completely hose the machine. It would be nice to include a warning that if the user is not familiar with these files, the user should recruit help from someone who is.
Thanks Fedor i know a lot of people will find this useful
Thanks Fedor. I may have considered the K1 had they had this available when I purchased.
Welp, going to do this to my k1 now. Thanks for the tut.
Thanks for the video, it helped me a lot :)
Thank you for the video, my K1 Max is now much better !
Thanks man! This is great! Following along and installing these codes makes me feel like a WIZARD! hahaha! I couldnt install the camera settings tho. It says "you have the new hardware camera and it is not compatible". I just got my K1 Max last week and it has some different things, like the new hot end from the K1C. I bought the Micro Swiss Flow Tech hotend but it was for the old K1 Max hotend so they were making new adapters for it. MicroSwiss was super helpful tho and told me 3wks for new hardware but they finished and sent in less than 1 week! The new K1C hotend doesnt look too bad tho. Anyway, thanks for the awesome video!
Great video, appreciate it! I'm going to give this a try tomorrow on my K1 Max, maybe I'm unlucky but mine seems to be having issues with the Z offset. Most of the first layer isn't connected at all, but some areas are rock solid, hopefully this helps. Unfortunately, the input shaper isn't working on my K1 Max, it keeps crashing the firmware when it tries, hopefully there's a fix for that at some point.
This is perfect. I've had my K1 Max for a week but I'm already feeling those limitations. Especially using orca slicer the one click print doesn't work with creality os so it's time to change.
I was one of the people that asked for this. Thanks Fedor!
Great video 👍👍 lets see kamp in action
Amazing!!!! Thank you so much
Wow great information and easy to follow and understand, you were right it needed to be done. On a different note do you feel the Max is on par with the P1s? I had my mind set on the P1s but just saw a Black Friday deal for basically the same price. I know they say the P1s is dialed in but the extra build volume would be nice. Any thoughts?
I think it’s on par until you add AMS into the mix. That’s the only thing that the K series cannot compete with. Otherwise, I’ll likely be choosing opensource over closed 9/10 times.
Great video, thanks. I have already done this without your tutorial, but this is perfect for sending to my friend who is on the fence about doing these steps.
Next... how about getting us some more fps on the camera :)
Simply awesome video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you so much for this video... though, hopefully I'm not going to make myself look dumb, but it could use with an update! A fair amount the script does now that is no longer having to be done manually, ie, fixing the xy in the input shaping. I wouldn't mind figuring out how to get the graph out of it!
A massive thank you!
Fantastic video. Helped me make all the settings without knowing about SSH and the deeper levels of Klipper. Thank you very much for all your work. Does anyone happen to know where the rattling on the Y axis is coming from. I have the problem on the right side. Already ruled out all possibilities.
thank you so much! your a life saver!
came for the guide, subscribe for the great content and attitude
Getting ready to order my new parts for the xplus3 now I have something else to work on :D
Like your video, only have my k1for 2 days and haven't rooted yet. If you don't put the port after the ip do you get the standard creality layout after rooting? I have an ender 5 pro and 3 pro running on klipper with mainsail so i think it would be nice to make the K1 run the same interface but i would like to be able to go back because sometimes the simplicity of that could be enough.
Hi I have successfully rooted my K1C following this video the only thing i had to differently is to go to the tools option on the helper menu and select "Enable camera settings in Moonraker" to get the camera to work as it didn't work when i logged into Fluidd
Thankyou for the tutorial and thankyou Guilouz for the helper script.
Hi Fedor, great show keep them coming. This comment is for my ELEGOO NEPTUNE 3PLUS. I printed a 20x20x20 cube, but it came out on the X-20.32, on the Y-20.34, and on the Z-20.21. How can I fix this? In my MOTOR PLUSE, E-AXLE PULSE, it has a number of 390.
Please help me fix this problem.
Thank you
Walter
Followed your instructions and even for a newbie it was easy! Love the greater control... who wouldnt need that. I do have a question/problem. After doing the root and install, my system shows low disk space in the files configuration screen and one other. The little orange Hand! Any ideas? Prior to doing to root I used Crealitys routine to shoot the printer back to default... so there were no printed files and only the 3 -4 gcode files like the benchy that it comes with.... Ideas?
Do you think on you might be able to create a video of how someone might shim or trim/tram the k1 max bed so it’s somewhat level?
I have not been able to find a video like that regarding the K1 max.
Your detailed presentation allowed me to successfully "rooting" and installing Fluidd and Mainsail on my K1 printer.
I searched everywhere for explanations on how the macros installed in Fluidd and Mainsail work, but I did not find any.
Can you give us a presentation of these macros, please?
thanks for this
Your video helped a lot. There is a new helper script. Just FYI.
Hey Man, thank you for this video.
I need your help please.
After I install the scrip, before every print, the printer purge a blob of filament in the center of the bed. How can I fix this?
Thank you.
I think by default it just takes (x+y)/2 which is pretty dumb for input shaping
Those are really nice stackable tables for your printers, what are they, where can I find them? Thanks! Great video too!
They are IKEA Lack tables. Very cheap and are stackable with printable adapters. :)
Thanks!
Thank you Jesse. Appreciate the support!
No, thank you! Took me so long to find your video. No one else is using a Mac, you’re a life saver. Really enjoying the rooted K1 finally. thanks !!🙏
Thank you for your clear and informative video.
I am just starting to scratch the surface of clipper. (Always used marlin)and I have a question about the macros that were added / changed for the input shaping.
There is the updated INPUTSHAPER and the added INPUT_SHAPER.
What is the difference?
It looks like the INPUTSHAPER is moving the head and storing automatically. So why dit we add a new macro
Thanks for your answer
The honest answer is that I didnt clean up the macro screen. You can always add a . in the macro to hide it from the menu. So best practice would be to go through your macros either in Klipper or in Fluidd settings and set which ones you want to see and use. In Fluidd you can even set categories. Worth the time for sure. I do that on my Voron machines and it makes it easier to use instantly
Incredible that Creality still haven't fixed their input shaper method despite the Sonic Pad community forcing them to do so many months ago before the K1 series even came out!
I know, right?
And also the info is just there correct and simple on the Klipper website. I mean, it is not hard.
Got questions, i cant fully understand things:
I had fluidd on my K1 so i would like to know (before having it 4th time) is rooting still makes touching screen on printer useless?
If ive done bed mesh and its stored in memory, why would i calibrate whole bed before every print, not just the Z stop? Bed is fixed for good.
*In config, bed mesh can be changed from 5x5 to, for example, to 8x8 or 23x23😂 which is more dense and making kamp a bit useless? 🤔
**And why bed mesh isnt working if sliced in orca? (before rooting) i cant find aswear for that in google 😮💨
Got my k1 installed todya ahd it over a week sititng in tis box, coming from a soncipad i just rooted it right away since i just wanted to go to the same interface ive been using for a while now
The way you installed KAMP. does it do anything different because it is K1 Max or would that be exactly the same for plain vanilla Klipper? I ask because I just manually installed KAMP on a Pi Zero, But not sure if I did all the commands correctly. The script would have been handy.
Thanks for the video. I got mainsail and fluid to work. I haven't been able to get the Ai Lidar to work after the rooting, is it not supported with klipper?
Gave this 7mins, but background noise/music? got the better of me..........
Seems like a bit has changed since this video was made. Especially the manual part of installing KAMP and setting up the input shaper fix. Now it seems like you can just install input shaper and run the macro from fluidd or mainsail and KAMP no longer needs to be manual added to the config.
You are right. There’s been some improvement. However, the input shaping still hasn’t been separated. So doing it from the macro only does the X and the Y is hard coded. It doesn’t actually apply. So “fixing” it manually is still a thing.
I kept looking for a way to change the IP address in Creality print program, then I realized you just used your browser to access the machine directly and the software loads a better version than the program they have you install when you get teh machine. I wonder if they made some of these changes to the regular firmware. When I check mine, X and Y were already different config numbers and after I think they were the same.
thank you for this video it help me a lot, i dont know what went wrong but now im trying to connect through terminal and every time it says Bad port, do you know what can i do? thank you
Looking at the new tuning results, they are significantly better than my Ender 3 v2 with somewhat reinforced frame, and modified with direct extruder.
Yes but at which speeds can your ender v2 print? I too have a few tight nit machines, but at the end of the day, this thing runs laps around it.
Ive heard people have used this same exact thing for the v3 ke. Do you know if that is the case? Im new to the whole rooting thing. This installation helper seems to simplify the whole process.
I want to connect my k1 to a company network so I need the eterneth Mac. I need rooting but have no access now to my k1 to net. How I can do it?
Are you still working on the ender 3 v3 ke review? if so have you tried to plug a camera on the usb-c port on the back of the lcd. also do you think rooting will be posible on the v3 k3?
I am yeah. I havent had much time lately, but I’m trying. No I havent. Only the side USB with no luck.
Umm, the helper script has changed and some of these steps no longer work due to a change in the folders and file locations. I was trying to find the input shaper fix and not on his wiki anymore or at least that I could find. I hoped the new firmware fixed it but its the same.
Bedankt
Thank you so much! that is very kind of you. :)
Does the CR10se input shaper x y also suffer from that issue you said?
Can you see difference in print quality after tuning X and Y separately? I'd guess it leads to less ringing and better surface quality / details?
For me, not as noticeable on the K1 as it was on the K1 Max. Great video idea. Or at least a short. Thanks.
My root image is not appearing when I insert the pendrive, do I have to format it in some specific way?
My K1 max rooted itself after just 4 days of use. By rooting itself I mean it dug holes in the build plate right through to the metal after an auto bed level, ruined the nozzle and hotend, then started throwing 111 codes which is failed man board or print head board. It's totally rooted.
Really wish the music volume was about half of what it is. The music is fine, but I find it a bit loud
Sorry about that. It tends to sounds much louder with headphones on (from what I hear from folks). I’ll be sure to adjust that in upcoming videos.
i have a calibration issue after following video the input shaping fails
trying to follow your guide but but when trying to install fliudd just keep getting download failed. exit code: 1 error :(
So is the Guilouz helper script ok to use on the KE? I did it, and it worked perfectly. But I’ve come across a lot of people asking and I don’t want to tell them it’s ok if there could be problems. It worked for me but I only used it for fluidd, mainsail, and the macros.
I’ve used it on mine on our pre-official release and it worked great.
i wasnt able to install the klipper gcode option kept saying -sh: 10: not found
I don't understand why they didn't have this access on these printers already. I was heavily disappointed with my K-1Max at first because the z-offset was too low and there was no way to adjust it in the UI or on Creality Print which didn't make any sense, kinda taking steps backwards by removing ability to adjust Z-offset as you print so don't know what they were thinking.
You can adjust Z off set in Creality Print, it's under Experimental and advanced settings
evvery company has their ways of doing things and issues to work out. it just takes a lot of speakinng up by the communityto force them to implement changes we want, we are their customers in the end so its their best intrest to listen and like creality always has, they are listening
Im trying to do this and it says fluidd unable to install, i have a windows pc does that affect it?
can you do a video on factory resetting and installing new firmware ?
The factory reset is in the same wiki from this video. All you do is open the file in your browser, type IP address and it factory resets the machine. You can update the machine to any firmware, stock or not regardless though.
Beautiful video, I just bought a k1, and I was reading on the net that also has dimensional problems and I wanted to solve them if I make this change when it arrives, do I invalidate the printer warranty?
You can always revert back to stock. I’m assuming they don’t want you in there. Have a peak at the text when you are given the roof UN and PASS. wonder if it’s outlined there.
@@3DPrintSOS Do you think it is possible to make this change even with newer firmware versions?
@3DPrintSOS Hi. Can you please help us with SKEW correction for K1? Direct instructions on how to insert the skew correction code into Printer.cfg? Thank you
Is there anything we need to do to configure the fans?
Great video, i have an issue with mail sail and fluid it wont donwload, keep getting error 1
One question, if you want to run shaper again, let’s say you changed your build plate, how do you do it. Can you just ask printer to redo shaping using the display or do you have to port into it again?
You can just re-run that macro we ran in this video. :)
Just a note: Some of the things show here have been incorporated into the newer version of the script and therefor removed from the instructions page. The "fix issue with input shapers" for example, just run the macro. No need to follow the video.
Thank you very much for the good explanation. I have a K1 Max and everything works perfectly, except for one thing. I don't see a snapshot from my camera in Fluid. When I click on the camera tab I see the Timeplase, Timelapse Status and Timelapse settings. However, I don't see an image from my camera in the status.Under settings/timelapse, the Camera field is empty, when I click on the field I get No Data Available...
When I check in Creality print I can see my camera.
Any idea how I can fix this?
Thank you in advance.
Hi Sara! to get the camera back, head to settings in the left hand side in fluidd. there is a camera section there. In the dropdown, select the default camera, and head home. Then just reboot. the stock camera will pop right up. :)
@@3DPrintSOS That worked fine... Thanx ;-)
So... I'm looking at getting a 3d printer. I have a creality falcon 2 22 watt laser engraver that came out of the box working perfectly and has since. I see many creality bashers...I see many bambu labs bashers...If it wasn't for the proprietary software I'd probably have a bambu labs by now. I'm not looking to learn to program a three d printer. I want to make stuff. Does this make the Creality more or less user friendly? I'm not computer illiterate, I could flash the firmware. Does it make the unit better?
thanks fed is the k1 max worth buying is the next question? i have a p1p already but need bigger
Depends Lester. The Bambu eco system is so simple and clean, I would only go Creality if you want to tinker with the machine a bit more. Since you cant with the P1P but with these K1 machines you can kind of do whatever since it’s open-sourced now. So thats my take. Stay with Bambu machines if dont want to mess with much, or grab the K1 Max if you want that control. :)