Backdashing Chainsaws is good if they just do f1 (quick high) and mids. However if she hits you with the low she is in your face again. A really good way to beat most options is to sidewalk left. The only thing that can hit you is her homing 1+2 which is a high and on block you can backdash out of pressure. You may also get hit by d2 but after that low she is normal stance. Also if you block d2 make sure to block all 3 hits. She cant do just 2. Another tip is that if she does the mid with one chainsaw you are +9 if you block it and if she does the mid with 2 chainsaws you can backdash out of pressure. They arent that strong if you know these things :)
Alisa is very flawed character... While some hwarangs or pauls have a bunch of plus frames on ground in mixups, the only way for alisa to get them - air or chainsaw, but midair is punishable, and chains arent consistent. She doesnt have good high(mid)-low mixups, and the 2 she has got a timedelay and a very specific movement where even blind will know block or punish her. She got too wide movements, so she became readable and avoidable very easy. If you can use up and down keys - 80% of moveset is blocked and punishable. Doesnt have good launchers as punishement. Only uf4,4, still it's mid and 15-16 frames, good for dodging low attack and punish.😂
You deserve all the subscribers you got recently and even more. Keep it up man! I think it would be a great idea for you to stream in the near future from time to time - the live Q&A would give you a big boost - lots of content for main vids!
This one is so damn helpful, I usually have a really hard time dealing with her. Got the assignment and stayed close. Still tricky but somewhat more manageable to deal with.
Good guide! Some additions: if they go to chainsaws on block, they are always minus except running 2. Fast mid beats everything. But they can sidestep. Alisa i10 and i13 standing/crouching punishers go to chainsaws at small minus frames. Their enders are duckable highs. Don’t let them use these strings without duck launching. Best options against b3+4,3+4 double mid launcher (plus on block) is not jab float. Alisa can just do the first part (it’s a long range ”hopkick”) and you only get jab punish. Find your characters best launcher that also floats the followup. That’s the option select. Could be as simple as df2. But is not for all characters. And lastly, she has a lots of good pokes that pushback on block. She has the second best backdash in the game. If you press in these situations you will whiff and she will launch you. Many of these are most efficient at tip range, so keeping her close minimizes this problem too. But still better to use longer range moves when you block her pokes instead of df1 in many cases.
If you are far away from her, in low/mid ranks they will most likely approach with d3 low or running 2 high. Both have long range and are plus on block. I am regularly ducking Alisa at long range and launching both options. Launch d3 immediately on block since it has followups. Beware: Alisa also has long range mids, but those are -9 on block and steppable. The above mentioned low and high are also steppable. You step Alisa in higher ranks.
As an alisa main, carefull with ducking 1, 2 string cause they might bait you into ducking to get a mid launcher. In boot stance you can also just mash her out of the air. For DF1, 1, 2 / DF1, 4 you can also just block the first two attacks and duck the third if you recognize she used the spin move. Bonus tip, careful with D4, 1+2, you can duck the second attack and punish her if you are quick on reaction, otherwise she is + on block
Amazing videos. How about Leo? I got looped with cd cancels/ws moves, into b1,4 options or however it goes and nearly pulled my hair out. No idea how to escape
Awesome content! Hope to see more in future. I’m fairly new and picked up Kazuya in T8. I have trouble playing against all the fast string characters, especially the female characters. They often get overwhelming to play against, but I will try to apply what I’ve learned from this video.
So far I have not struggled much against Alisa because the players usually lack any kind of fundamentals. Most times I can do some + frame moves on them and they mash after, and if that doesn't work then defense until they do unsafe shit which is all the time. That said I will most definitely struggle if there happens to be an Alisa player that at least knows something so these will help a lot when that time comes.
Alisa main for close to 20 years here. This won't demolish *any* Alisa, lol, but it's solid advice to counter all the newer Alisas coming in for Tekken 8. Any fellow Alisa mains coming in to complain, y'all better level up your game, this here is just basics.😅
Any string that ends with a 'chainsaw attack animation' mid will always be -10 and above, the Db2,2,1+2 ends with a mid jab animation, so its not included in the rule. I hope it makes more sense now
Last night i deranked twice after facing like 6 different Reina players. They all do the same stupid mash moves and u practicallly have no turn til you're dead. I main Paul and my winrate against Reina is maybe at best 40% at purple ranks. I feel like theres more Reina players now than initial launch because they basically have everything given to them on a silver platter. Lots of 1-2 hit confirms that shaves 40% of your hp. Would be nice to see a guide against Reina. I feel like neither backdashing/sidestepping help against her
As an intermediate (Kishin) Alisa player, I feel that the best approach to dealing with chainsaws is to stop viewing them as a gimmick and start viewing it as a minigame of rock paper scissors. When she enters chainsaws from 3,2 and you block the follow-up f1+2, you get the following decision tree: 1+2 beats sidestep, but loses to backdash and duck d2 beats sidestep and jab, but loses to backdash and dickjab 1 beats mashing, but, unless delayed, loses to steps and gives up her turn d1 beats backdash, but loses to steps, unless delayed, which will cause it to lose to mashing f1 beats jab and leads to plus frames, but loses to ssl and ducking
Hands down the most braindead character in the history of Tekken. Unless this character is being played by the absolute top players. I have no respect for those who play this character and spam cheap stuff
Backdashing Chainsaws is good if they just do f1 (quick high) and mids. However if she hits you with the low she is in your face again. A really good way to beat most options is to sidewalk left. The only thing that can hit you is her homing 1+2 which is a high and on block you can backdash out of pressure. You may also get hit by d2 but after that low she is normal stance. Also if you block d2 make sure to block all 3 hits. She cant do just 2. Another tip is that if she does the mid with one chainsaw you are +9 if you block it and if she does the mid with 2 chainsaws you can backdash out of pressure. They arent that strong if you know these things :)
Wtf are you on? Block the low and punish?
@@JunTheDude32 huh what are you on bro read twice before writing bullshit...
😂😂😂😂@@row6191
Alisa is very flawed character... While some hwarangs or pauls have a bunch of plus frames on ground in mixups, the only way for alisa to get them - air or chainsaw, but midair is punishable, and chains arent consistent.
She doesnt have good high(mid)-low mixups, and the 2 she has got a timedelay and a very specific movement where even blind will know block or punish her.
She got too wide movements, so she became readable and avoidable very easy. If you can use up and down keys - 80% of moveset is blocked and punishable.
Doesnt have good launchers as punishement. Only uf4,4, still it's mid and 15-16 frames, good for dodging low attack and punish.😂
@@zeronim1965 she was a strong character in t7 just by poking and still has the same tools. now with extra mixups.
dude you are so good at making visual memorys for punishments, thank you !
Im glad that it is helping, thank you!
Love your style of guide. This small format is very digestable and easy to retain thanks great work
Im glad its helping!
You deserve all the subscribers you got recently and even more. Keep it up man! I think it would be a great idea for you to stream in the near future from time to time - the live Q&A would give you a big boost - lots of content for main vids!
This man is becoming legendary with these videos.
idk why but I'm starting to enjoy learning matchups. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for this guide man, Alisa is currently my worse match up with Bryan, I'll definitely practice this
Love all your videos dude, keep it up. This is the kind of easy to understand, well put together guide we need.
The advice in this video helped me rank up today. Good stuff buddy
Congrats on the rank up, Im glad its working!
This one is so damn helpful, I usually have a really hard time dealing with her. Got the assignment and stayed close. Still tricky but somewhat more manageable to deal with.
Thank you, my war against Alisa scrubs has begun
It's good to know what I should be mindful of when playing as Alisa
bro your videos are mad helpful ❤ please keep this up
Thanks, will do!
Good guide! Some additions: if they go to chainsaws on block, they are always minus except running 2. Fast mid beats everything. But they can sidestep. Alisa i10 and i13 standing/crouching punishers go to chainsaws at small minus frames. Their enders are duckable highs. Don’t let them use these strings without duck launching.
Best options against b3+4,3+4 double mid launcher (plus on block) is not jab float. Alisa can just do the first part (it’s a long range ”hopkick”) and you only get jab punish. Find your characters best launcher that also floats the followup. That’s the option select. Could be as simple as df2. But is not for all characters.
And lastly, she has a lots of good pokes that pushback on block. She has the second best backdash in the game. If you press in these situations you will whiff and she will launch you. Many of these are most efficient at tip range, so keeping her close minimizes this problem too. But still better to use longer range moves when you block her pokes instead of df1 in many cases.
If you are far away from her, in low/mid ranks they will most likely approach with d3 low or running 2 high. Both have long range and are plus on block. I am regularly ducking Alisa at long range and launching both options. Launch d3 immediately on block since it has followups.
Beware: Alisa also has long range mids, but those are -9 on block and steppable. The above mentioned low and high are also steppable. You step Alisa in higher ranks.
These are godsend Make one guide on lili please
Lili DONE ✅
This is awesome! Do one for Jun please!
As an alisa main, carefull with ducking 1, 2 string cause they might bait you into ducking to get a mid launcher.
In boot stance you can also just mash her out of the air.
For DF1, 1, 2 / DF1, 4 you can also just block the first two attacks and duck the third if you recognize she used the spin move.
Bonus tip, careful with D4, 1+2, you can duck the second attack and punish her if you are quick on reaction, otherwise she is + on block
You can't duck the d4, 1+2. It jails on hit. And if the 1+2 hits, it's not + on block, it's 0 on block.
Completely right mb@@megadrillubreaker8817
there goes my main
also you cannot interrupt alisa's 3,2 / uf2 if they decide to sidestep right. it evades highs and mids lmao
Amazing videos. How about Leo? I got looped with cd cancels/ws moves, into b1,4 options or however it goes and nearly pulled my hair out. No idea how to escape
DF1 mix - ahhh, yes, just watch for the visual cue that comes about 10f (if not less) before the mixup, incredible.
Awesome content! Hope to see more in future. I’m fairly new and picked up Kazuya in T8. I have trouble playing against all the fast string characters, especially the female characters. They often get overwhelming to play against, but I will try to apply what I’ve learned from this video.
Great guide, Gold rules, digestible. Hope to see more anti char guides from you in the future.
Absolutely love these vids, please keep going! Would love one for Yoshimitsu
Yoshi is on the list✅
Bro these Videos are the Best punishing guide s on TH-cam
Glad you liked them!
Great vid. Just subbed. Please do one for Feng, Paul and Xiaoyu ;) You could also do a youtube poll to ask which one people want the most
Subscribed purely for these anti vids, keep more coming please. You could even do a pt2 series for characters that could use it
love these guides
dragunov next please :D can never tell when is my turn with that guy
So far I have not struggled much against Alisa because the players usually lack any kind of fundamentals. Most times I can do some + frame moves on them and they mash after, and if that doesn't work then defense until they do unsafe shit which is all the time.
That said I will most definitely struggle if there happens to be an Alisa player that at least knows something so these will help a lot when that time comes.
Hey syndox, was wondering if KBDing after her first chainsaw move is viable or if using a b,b input is the way
nice fast straightforward information
Always the goal!
Alisa main for close to 20 years here. This won't demolish *any* Alisa, lol, but it's solid advice to counter all the newer Alisas coming in for Tekken 8.
Any fellow Alisa mains coming in to complain, y'all better level up your game, this here is just basics.😅
Amazing guide, any tips vs jun, feng,xyao, steve would be awesome ❤
Oh and that ballsack of yoshimitsu pls
Alisa is my main character, thanks for this info...
Well, if the opponent is running the mod where she's just a huge block of plate iron, all you can do is report them.
This game has legs. Going to be one of the most teched fighting games of all time easy
Thanks for pointing out her weaknesses, I’ll be sure not to use those - HAHA! 👺👺👺
This is gold ty very much!
“Just block” -Alisa mains
My brother in Christ I’m far better getting hit with a combo than getting all that chip damage
Can you do a how to demolish Law? I got beat by a spammer doing some flying kick move that I think was plus on block.
Gotta duck that kick then you can launch him
Great stuff, subscribed 💪
We need an anti Jun guide ASAP
Not true that all mid string enders that go into chainsaws are unsafe. Db2,2,1+2 is mm -9 into stance
Any string that ends with a 'chainsaw attack animation' mid will always be -10 and above, the Db2,2,1+2 ends with a mid jab animation, so its not included in the rule. I hope it makes more sense now
Nice video. Raven, Leroy, and Shaheen would be greatly appreciated
Thank god I was just complaining about this mu yesterday lol
How to beat Lili guide next please lol. Thanks for these.
Lili DONE ✅
@@xiSyndox Yeah thanks I watched it lol. I just gotta get better at side stepping.
Please do a Lars and Jun? Thank you for these.
Lars Video DONE ✅
@@xiSyndox thank you so much!!
@@billyn7757 anytime!
Will you do the whole cast ?? U are so helpful dude
I wish Leroy had an easy launcher like the rest of this cast…..
Please do this for every character! You'll be famous :D
No wonder why I'm Hard stuck Tenyru.
you are doing gods work
Hey Syndox can you do an anti Nina and Reina video? Thanks, keep up the good vids man!
Reina video DONE ✅
Duck her 3,2 if you manage to block the first hit, its pretty slow
Need a Anti Xiaoyu! 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Hello. Can you make an anti Jin guide? My friend uses him. He likes to abuse strings with lows. Can you help?
Amazing
Its the Mini Version of @Phidx 😂 Great Work
The GOAT
Last night i deranked twice after facing like 6 different Reina players. They all do the same stupid mash moves and u practicallly have no turn til you're dead.
I main Paul and my winrate against Reina is maybe at best 40% at purple ranks. I feel like theres more Reina players now than initial launch because they basically have everything given to them on a silver platter. Lots of 1-2 hit confirms that shaves 40% of your hp.
Would be nice to see a guide against Reina. I feel like neither backdashing/sidestepping help against her
Check out my Reina anti guide!
Just backdash and pray to god. Yup. She had these heat engager level frames back in t7 too...
I see the if else statement you got there.
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can u tell me the company/model of your hitbox controller?
dude you are the best
Our Savior, thanks 😊 🙏, Please do fang , King , jun ,yoshimitsu as all of them currently broken
King DONE ✅
@xiSyndox 🙏🙏🙏🙌👏👏👏🙌👏👌👌👌 thank you coach ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Please make video on how to counter Lars
Lars Video DONE ✅
As an intermediate (Kishin) Alisa player, I feel that the best approach to dealing with chainsaws is to stop viewing them as a gimmick and start viewing it as a minigame of rock paper scissors.
When she enters chainsaws from 3,2 and you block the follow-up f1+2, you get the following decision tree:
1+2 beats sidestep, but loses to backdash and duck
d2 beats sidestep and jab, but loses to backdash and dickjab
1 beats mashing, but, unless delayed, loses to steps and gives up her turn
d1 beats backdash, but loses to steps, unless delayed, which will cause it to lose to mashing
f1 beats jab and leads to plus frames, but loses to ssl and ducking
very good work
I appreciate it!
Your vids are gold
Im glad they are of help!
Now im waiting a videos of king, jin, jun, devil jin...
King DONE ✅
@@xiSyndox Puuuurfect.
Devil Jin DONE ✅
Please god do King next.
King DONE ✅
Can you do a guide for Jin and Feng?
Xiaoyu next please.
not me an alisa main of many years not use almost any of this...
Can you make one on raven
this has to be personal made a vid on all three of my mains
How about her running 2+1?
ok I'm subscribing
Lars! For the love of God, Lars lol
Lars Video DONE ✅
@@xiSyndox you are a saint ❤️
KING NEXT PLEASE 🥺🥺
King DONE ✅
Could you please make one for king? God bless you
King is on the list ✅
King DONE ✅
@@xiSyndox ty, much love
Reina next please. And then king.
Reina DONE!
@@xiSyndox already watched! Thanks a lot! Who's next? :D
Reina/King DONE ✅
Thankyou
Sonic aka Lars next pleeeease
Sonic AKA Lars Video DONE ✅
@@xiSyndox ❤❤❤
please make one of these for paul, he's so annoying
Great Work , i hate this *****
Xiaoyu, Jun and Devil Jin would be appreciated
Devil Jin DONE ✅
@@xiSyndox Woo GOOD shit right here. Ty
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Nooo! Don't tell people all my robo waifu's tricks!
I'm stealing your Jin customization
Make one for Jin lol
Can’t do that to the homie 😂
I guess it's impossible to make a guide on how to beat xiaoyu 🙄
I need one on lars
Lars Video DONE ✅
@@xiSyndox best channel ever, just subbed
Lars and nina plz
Lars Video DONE ✅
💞💞💞💞💕💕💕
Need king demolish
King DONE ✅
How do we demolish jin?
He won’t do it cause it’s his main 😂
@@Tookieslam I figured lol
Can’t do that to my boy jin 😂, but in all seriousness he is definitely in the list
Anti-Reina, please.
Reina guide DONE ✅
Can you do one for Reina?
Reina guide DONE✅
This guy smells like a programmer
Stinky 💨
Alisa main here 😂 ain’t none of this gonna work. Good luck mofos
Hands down the most braindead character in the history of Tekken.
Unless this character is being played by the absolute top players. I have no respect for those who play this character and spam cheap stuff