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What do you guys think about Jun in this game? And which character do you want to see me cover next?
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Jun Kazama is one of my favourite female Tekken characters and I was so happy that she came back in Tekken 8 after 29 years. As a Jin Kazama main, I also play as Jun. She deserves to have more players, more popularity and be a legacy character.
I’d like to see Raven or Zafina covered next. Both are some of the most unpopular characters in the game.
Jun player since day 1 blue rank. I've never felt weak with her, honestly. I also never knew about the broken wall combo she had, only hearing about it after it got removed. Jun is still very safe on her moves, but the permanent health loss makes it a much bigger risk going for them. I find myself thinking a lot more on whether or not I should be throwing moves out without reason. She's actually made me a better player because of it.
'No point in keepijg the projectile if it doesnt track' nah i gotta stop you there,a frame 13 half screen whiff punish tool that heals aint nothing to scoff at but considering she uses her own HP while paul,law, heihachi, and king dont, i think she can have some of her main combo tools buffed in dmg or make some of her strings more reliable
Plus if in multiple rounds and sets with someone if you can tell they are always on guard for the projectile, it set you up to do her alternate heat smash.
Low key this makes me want to play her, her combos look so satisfying
How hard is this Jun one button combo? Try her, maybe you'll find her fun.
Jun is fun to play
I just dropped a high level compilation on my channel please take a look
Tekken 8 Jun Kazama Highlights Volume 1
And breaindead! Braindeads unite!
@@crazy911wmanlearn the matchup scrub instead of calling her "bReAinDeAd"
Been maining Jun since day one and still love her. I didn’t even know about the really broken stuff since I was still new to tekken but I really like the way she plays now.
That permanent health nerf was way too much but the option to heal herself was a good choice for buffs in 1.05. I think she is still very strong. I’ve noticed that most people who play Jun don’t even use half of her really good stuff. It’s weird. If I run into another Jun online (which is really rare) they play like zombies and sit still waiting to do a b3 or cancan. She has much more to offer than that.
A few corrections for the video.
1. Her heat smash can actually wall splat. Even the low one at the right distance.
2. She can still output huge damage. Easily 100+ off the right launcher
The trick with her is optimizing damage output vs healing. That’s a decision you have to make while playing her. I think the nerfs were fair. The heat smash tracking and healing were too much. She feels really good now.
I think she could use better frame data on her lows though. Her best lows only make her +2 which isn’t good for much. Her db2, for example, is 22 frames but only leaves her +2 in crouch. Even +3 would be good just slightly more frames.
Finally someone sensed here, and doesn't sleep on the good stuff and also sharing right info.
She was never S tier people just didn’t know the matchup.
She desperately needs stronger low options in neutral, something comparable to Asuka’s db3. Our current db3 suffers from inconsistent tracking and is only +2 on hit. If they’re not planning to increase it to +3 or +4, then a new low is essential. Additionally, her sidestep game is lacking because there’s no low threat-there’s no reason for opponents to duck. To round things off, they should make her sidestep 4 chip on block, especially if they don’t plan to give her viable low attacks.
There’s plenty of quality of life changes we need but this is really what sets her back we have no hellsweep or quality low so we don’t have a 50/50 if our opponents are left on -7, -8, or -9.
Facts, and she needs a stronger power crush move too. I feel like hers is the worst in the game.
Damn sure why not just give a free win button while at it? Why not just automatically give the dub to Jun when match starts?
Lol, a Kazama original with a hell sweep, Jun players need to cut the bs for real. If the hellsweep is one of your concern, then devs shouldn't look at you at all because she would be beyond broken. Sidestep 4 chip dmg, are we playing ANGEL or Jun?! Please, she can regen both chip and total health, even if you don't use it on a regular , that's a point you need to give for her. Heihachi heals from just frames inputs, and Jun/Yoshi from STANCES. She can heal TWICE, with a regular heat engager recover PLUS at Heat smash 1 or 2(I thk it's 2). Why would you give a hellsweep for a stance/mix up char ?! +2 db3 on hit is fine because some of the many characters rely on jab reaching , thus an attempt of 50/50 restablishment, which can just be ignored because most of her mix up game implies a 13f heat engager or knockdown move, which usually beat jabs. You just don't give a hellsweep (even in counter hit) to someone that can duck punish or duck launch on a regular. Her most risky lows are fine enough, and all risky lows are staggering on block OR are floating combo punish (like Law slide, or even Shaheen one's, or Dragunov slide too that is block launch punishable, yet ain't a staggering one).
This Tekken even more aggressive than ever, is also a huge knowledge check to all characters, and fortunately enough, you need to understand how other characters work and what they rely on to achieve higher ranks and best of tournament to win with.
I also need to remember you that Jun has a punch/kick parry PLUS a throw parry , that's ofc as marginal as it is, is also a very good tool against grapplers and throw game characters that can pull out a 50 dmg in few inputs...
@@Dmoney_93 her power crush is soooo bad like it’s very hard to stop pressure sometimes
I still play my waifu Jun, regardless of buffs and nerfs since apparently all the fake players only play buff characters and "claim" to be a good or great player.
I kept trying to find plays that could show me why Jun was broken around launch and I never found it she usually lost. I was interested in her but never really got to settle in to T8 as got out as soon as they announced the cash shop.
King and Dragonov I found plenty of plays that showcased they may be overtuned but never Jun, she may still have been but I never saw it in actual play. She was always my second favourite female character in tekken before Kazumi came out right after Michelle.
She is my main and I still play her. And I actually see other Jun players online. I think there are other characters that are played way less than her.
Aye me too brother!
Like Lidia
She’s fun because now she’s a defensive character with fantastic panic tools (B3, can cans, even her hop kick crushes jabs) and great whiff punishers (d1+2, f2, df4 etc) the reason why she’s mid tier is 2 reasons:
First, is cuz her lows aren’t threatening enough to make someone duck. Second, she now does permanent damage to herself with moves when it used to be recoverable damage. Even in heat it still uses permanent health
I have said for months that Jun is nowhere near as powerful as people claim her to be. Her heat smash never should have tracked. That is not up for debate. But the community has had a hate boner for the character since release regardless of the facts. It felt like they just wanted to see the character dead and they more or less got their wish. Her wall damage got nerfed. What about the several other characters with high damage unscaled combo enders at the wall? The Bear booty is memed now but Kuma has literally the same wall damage and goes untouched. Leo and Law aren't much better. It just seems to me like an unwarranted witch hunt got a character nerfed into obscurity.
I honestly am seeing quite a few Juns in ranked. Admittedly I'm still grinding Red Ranks, but still. One of them was on something like 8-9 win streak as well.
I’m in fujin and face quite a few. The only GoD I’ve fought was also a Jun so yeah.
It's worth noting that every single heatsmash heals on block, it's a universal mechanic that blocked attacks noticably heal in heat. Just her heatsmash used to heal more than usual and was bugged to do so even on whiff, nowadays it heals about the same as others or less (check the healing and chip damage on Nina's for example).
I still play her but switching to Law as my main made winning so much easier ;)
First tekken I’m a blue eddy main. Started getting stuck and found Jun as my play style answer. Blue ranked with her and I love her !!
I recently got back into T8 and started learning Jun this week, I had no idea where she falls on tier lists but I really just like the range and effects on all of her light pillar attacks, they're neat
Any time there is a character situation like this, my mind goes to: what is this character's identity, and how can that be represented better in their playstyle? For Jun, she's been mysteriously missing for years, and has healing magic that appears to be based on her sharing her own energy. Her playstyle is based around sacrificing her health and healing it back. She is almost like a berserker archetype, using health as a renewable resource to be spent. She is also a character that people have been wondering about where she's been this whole time (it's weird to think that at one point there was a lot of hype behind this character), so we can assume she has been mastering these strange magic abilities somewhere secret, unlike Claudio and Zafina, who have been front and center.
All of which is to say, I'm not sure what they should do with her, but her identity seems very centered around the risk/reward health mechanics, so they should probably lean into that. Make her style all about knowing when and how to spend or recover health to maximum effect. Hopefully a Jun main that agrees can elaborate on this idea better than I can.
Getting recommended this video like 4 days after picking her up 😭 I just love those Kazama style animations, chose her over Asuka because of nostalgia. I think she's super fun to play, I main Xiaoyu and Jun feels a bit more... simple in comparison? It's fun to switch up my play style a bit. The only thing I dislike about her is that I feel like she's a little slow, but that could just be me having too much of a Xiaoyu-ish approach to her
Jun is not weak and underwhelming, she's just good in a variety of ways and has her weaknesses like most of the cast does. Amazing tracking options, good pressure, great pokes, insane punishment and whiff punishment probably amongt the best in the game. There's a strong tendency among players to see tierlists putting her in low tier and thinking she's bad or trash while in Tekken 8 most of the roster is actually really well balanced and she's just one of many interesting characters with clear weaknesses.
Just because a few top tiers are stupidly OP that doesn't mean she's bad
On launch one of the main reasons she was so broken was because of her respike true combo that nearly did 160 dmg, it wasn't that hard to do and there was litteraly no counter play because of the face down feet towards you position the other player recovers from before the respike. It was truly hell and abused by most high lvl Jun to climb ranked quickly, it was patched soon after by making a quick stand up recovery possible and that being in the same patch as her wall combo dmg nerf she litteraly lost like 50% of her player base from either the nerfs or already being stuck high rank by abusing her broken respike. And when the heat smash and health damage changes came, she truly died for good...
I still main her to this day, and now you have to work so hard to get the same reward other characters would get without expending health or ressources, she is predictable, no good lows to justify crouching, at this point the only reason I still play her is because of her stylish combos and her design...
Jun will always be my favorite t8 character (well least til julia eventually arrives) i loved playing as her the most even during the cbt. That said i've always felt like jun has such a high wall to climb and has to work much more harder than most to score wins even b4 the changes to her kit.
She's great at the wall but that's the issue trying to get ppl there i feel like her launchers are a bit lacking and too ez to predict. The self damage infliction she now does doesn't help matters either.
Its funny right when you posted this i was thinking of picking her up lol
If you're a passive player then I would recommend. I've just picked her up recently. Got to Fujin yesterday.
Played her in T2, mained her in Tag 1. Growing up as a kid and seeing every new tekken coming out without Jun in it was making me mad. Now that she is bacc in the game, doesn't matter how much they nerf her, I will still main her. I'm still made Asuka stole her moveset. I refused to main Asuka because of it.
I just started using her a week ago and I’m enjoying her so far
She may be weak but her strings confuse my brain like no other character can. At low/mid level she can obliterate you and you don't even know what she has done to you.
Yeah low levels she cleans up high levels I’m getting my butt kicked she’s harder to play for sure lol
Just saw 2 Jun’s in the top 8 of the latest tournament loool
Gotta love how everyone complains about broken gimmicks and heat in Tekken 8 but drops characters that are lose their OP and “broken” moves.
Her main heat smash even pre nerf was only an option for me as anti pressure tool especially with really aggressive opponents. Once I found her alt heat smash that’s my go to. Out of gen stance it’s crazy, and it’s her stance that counters lows and throws, for awhile it even tracked pretty well (nerfed). My favorite is opponents love to lay on the ground since her combos can carry her pretty far, but when I see it in heat I hit them with it as a punish. Lol
This is my firts tekken and jun is my only character,i was looking for a easy character to beging with and every youtuber says jun was easy so i pick her, i like the character but say she is easy to play is ridiculous, she is a “defensive” character in a over agresive game, the best tool she has are move that rewards you for knowing how to punish, how to dodge or how to interrupt and she has a heavy crouch gameplay, how the hell this would be easy for a beginner having character like victor or law or almost every other character with 6 powercrushes… i stick on her and i kinda like to be the underdog winning against jin or lili or feng or dragunov but she needs better tools, im kishin btw
Jun is literally my favourite atm ahahaha, picked her up recently and she’s so fun.
I just picked up Jun and got her to Tekken King, I loved her really. Great damage really even after nerfs.. But im mostly checking people with gimmicks and using her highly evasive D1+2 and getting counter hits off of frame traps people don't know.
Still love her though.
Jun is still the character that I have the highest rank (I'm learning Bryan now). I stated playing her after all the patches, and she could be weak but I think her fighting style and moves are soo cool and elegant that just these factors makes playing her worth the time. Besides pro play, tier list doesn't mean that much anyway for you to have a good time with the game and character.
"+5 on block like all the other heat smashes" while Lee's had to get BUFFED to being -14 on block. Mans used to be LAUNCHABLE for trying heat smash. Its seriously the worst one in the game bar none.
I honestly don't think Jun was ever all that bad post wall damage nerf. I always felt that most of the complaints were just tekken vets bitching at a new mechanic they're not familiar with (heat) + unfamiliar move set. Just like D.Jin, one move you can use once per round wont win majors.
Jun has been broken since she fell in love with Kazuya and keeps begging for his salvation which even he doesn't want.
I just picked up Jun, honestly shes really fun, and personally, I think she is stronger than what we give her credit for. since people aren't playing her like that, people also might not know the match-up 😂 but overall, she's definitely not low tier,i can say that much.
Her wall combo and healing abilities were an issue since the CNT and CBT version of Tekken 8 until the full version
If I had a nickel for everytime a returning, barely anticipated character to come back, to be made as strong in one patch then quickly dispatched by nerfs, I would've had two.
Which is weird since Krohnen and Jun have the same shit, yet I use them despite the nerfs.
Finally a Jun vid😂. For me it's Jun ride or die 💯
Love the character from the beginning of the game and she's always my main regardless of nerfs but yes the heat smash and damage initially needed to be nerfed. But now they gone too far. Time for buffs please Harada🙏🏽. They nerfed her again by taking away the tracking on her 2nd heat smash. Please undo that and give her better neutral and low moves. Then we're good. 🫶🏽👊🏽
Dealing with Jun’s strings is really easy once she’s labbed. A Simple yet realistic fix for Jun - she shouldn’t take self damage on Hit. Let her take self damage if she uses her kazama
Power on block. When I play her I literally lose health during a combo on Hit. What kind of trash balancing decision is this? I know she heals a bit but in Tekken 8 we all depend on that magic Pixel.
She doesn’t have a strong low to open up her opponents. Make her DB+3, + 3 on hit instead of +2.
This is all she needs. It’s not too much to ask for. Another reason why I quit this stupid game.
I literally started playing Tekken 8 with her haha. I came from fighterZ and I really like Jun and how cool her combos is
I still play Jun lol 😂 Jun main here we live 😂
Same! I love her string game, it’s like chess once you get your opponent keyed on 1 variation you hit ‘em with a different one then do it again and they counter and get em with the throw variation.
Just picked her up. i dont get what people are talking about her being weak. She's insane!! But then again, im a yoshi main. 🤷🏿♂️
@@brandontucker7460 so she’s not weak but the main thing is she doesn’t have strong tools like others. Her power crush isn’t the best, some of her strings can be pretty predictable vs higher ranks but she’s a very viable character. I’ve been able to have fun with her. Certain matchups can be frustrating.
@@brandontucker7460 I got some shorts on my page from recent matches I had nothing crazy but she gone get you some wins lol
I have two people I play against often that demolish with Jun on Tekken god rank. Crazy strong, sad to not see her that often in tournaments 😢
Got to 12 shots in the he said "broken" count before I got too drunk to continue
Honestly… people just flock to who gives the most wins. I’m a Jun main and she is cool. Sure she needs some work but she is fine for the most part. But people flock to who is easier to play and who wins. Precisely why you see all of the annoying characters on ranked. Pick your main, put in the time and perfect them.
Nice breakdown. One thing that can be added is her f32~IZU 1+2 setup into guranted d 1+2. Challenging that would launch. That along with heat smash and wall combo made her strong. With thesw gone shes trash.
My two cents on how to buff her👇
- they introduce perm dmg but not perm recovery much. Likr u can in combos but not on whiff pr block punish. So better option would be to
1) adjust her 12f string 2141 all natural and make last hit recover 4 perm health. On downside, make it unsafe at -13~14 etc.
2) at 15f she cant launch and her db11 str only recovers 4. Well its -15 iself on block so just make it to 8 perm and 8 white health recovery to componsate -15s
- ss4 should do chip dmg imo. Drah qcf 4 hits grounded, +ob mid, gives heat etc etc. If he can keep it so can jun. Lets add chp dmg without costing health. No need to hit grounded tho jusr add dmg on block
- her df1 string only gives +10 on counter hit. Lets make it 13f so that she can enter heat at will or use aforementioned 2141 string to recover health
- asuka has b4 with same prop as jun df4 only diff is jun is -14. Too risky. Lets make it -9
- also nina db3 gives +4C and guranted counter, jun-s can be changed like that +2C on normal hit and guranted f2 on counter. (In current state, opp can just ss or jan interupts)
All of that make her strong but not broken and atleast viable cuz she can atleast do smth lol 😅
You can backroll the Izu 1+2 and that will block the d1+2 attempt
Set a training dummy to mash backdash in yakushima and try to deal 180 dmg.
My fastest time was like 59 seconds.
What juns need is not have to lose like “ALL HIS HEALTH” to “DO MORE DAMAGE” when every other characters can make 80+ damage with every combo, why jun have to lose 20hp for a move that is -9 on block when every other characters have awesome moves who lets they even plus on block, it is ridiculous and have no sense, yoshimitsu health equally to jun and he dont lost hald of his life every round
JUN KAZAMA MAIN FOR LIFE!! NO MATTER WHAT!!!!
That’s all I see online lol plus frames everywhere
Jun a love Her and her is may main
Give us a reliable offensive tool. I often find my self having a real hard time cracking people open. Her F F 3 3+4 can be interrupted and get launch. Her F 4 can be ducked and launch. Her stance into mix up is just not as good as the other character. Her CH arent as good as Lee or Bryan or even Asuke. She way too defensive and in Tekken 8, where aggression is king, she just doesn't feel strong enough. Her spacing control is amazing but again, maybe i'm ass at the game but i saw even GoD Jun like PTJ have issues when a Nina or Reina is having full aneurysm in front of you.
I mean a lot of other characters do 100+ damage on wall combos now
You should make a video why everyone plays Jin lol 😎
Do cover her niece Asuka next….
tbh, I don't think Jun is weak. Even Blackheart, one of the best (if not, the best) Jun players in the world says she's strong. I'm glad she has weaknesses and I wish more characters had weaknesses too.
Jun is fine in my opinion and doesn’t need any buffs. She got massively reworked in the last patch to be much better. She’s fine as is in my opinion
I just picked her up two days ago lmao
i don’t give a fuck how many nerfs jun gets. i’m still playing her. if there’s one player that appears on the play rate for jun that’s gonna be me. i’ve waited way too long for jun to make it to another game lol
Jun was low key broken at launch. Jun’s healing got nerfed and she was basically unplayable. Jun’s healing got buffed somewhat but she hasn’t returned to her former glory. Hoping next patch will be more buffs. In my opinion, I would either buff healing, chip, or launch punishes. I see those as three different viable directions for her.
Please make a Vid about *SHAHEEN*
I was wondering why are there many Shaheen players in tournaments but only a few in online matches? 🤔
He's a very strong (Top Tier) character in T8 but he still has a very low usage rate 🤷♂️
Why does no one talk about her alt heat smash?? There are so many routes into it plus it’s out of her stance that counters lows and throws. 🤷♂️
I picked up the game like about 4 or 5 months ago and immediately chose Jun as my main. I saw her being played in tournaments and immediately thought that all of her attacks look so cool, the light beams are so sick, her playstyle in general looked very interesting to me PLUS, I mean let's be honest Jun is also beautiful, so that's a plus as well lol (sorry to all Feng players). Right now, I'm pretty much stuck at Battle Ruler with a 46% winrate, so yeah it's not going so great. I got kind of stuck in Orange a few months ago, then breezed through Red, stagnated a bit in Purple, but made it to Fujin last week. I immediately dropped down again and am now stuck. Sometimes it feels like it's because of Jun and her having not that many crazy tools like other characters have, but sometimes it also feels like it's simply a lack of skill on my part, so I don't know. But no, I'll definitely stick with her, even if she may be worse than other characters, I just love her too much to drop her lol
She represent peace in a game about fighting. Devs need to build female chars like you would see in a fighting gym. Put her in mma gear and watch the usage fly
She plays like she did in tag 2 except she heals and her damage is very high and a broken can can she is simply too boring to be appreciated
Are you saying she's op?
@@Goobster56 no she’s mid tier at the highest but with potential
Her heat mode should just be reworked. Her heat mode gives no interesting change to her gameplay and the move it does enhance (F, 1+2) doesnt feel that great to use imo. I think swapping the enhanced move to Izu, 4,2 making it a launcher would make her heat mode more useful and addresses her weak low options for that small period of time.
I just think that Jun players just go M.I.A from ranked just to hide their main from being hit by the nerf hammer
Idc I'm still maining her.
True
She needs better lows or better frames on them. I would nerf can cans. (every Jun main knows can cans is broken) make her do recoverable damage instead of permanent on kazama moves. Lastly I’d give her an install that reinforces her identity
I just reached tekken king with jun
After Jun please do asuka could be cool since there very similar
I dont think jun is considered a bad character.. shes still strong imo. She got good damage, healing, good string setup, etc. I even think shes better than zafina is some points.. i think its just playing her is pretty boring since her gameplan is relying on her string setups.. also i think in pro level play string setups its not a viable options since pro player can react and read it easily
Jun main here lol
That’s funny you made this because I just switched my main from hwo to Jun and I must say I have been enjoying playing this character, her gameplay is fun. I also feel like she helped me with my fundamentals overall helping me become a better tekken player as well as sharpened my defense.
Admittedly, I'm not a very strong player, but I think the issue with Jun boils down to her core concept. She sacrifices HP for damage, but her damage is too low to justify this sacrifice and her options are pretty limited due to how her stances work.
She poses the same balance problem that Akuma does in Street Fighter, and is further proof that balancing around health is a terrible idea.
To clarify this, her having less effective health doesn't matter if her damage is high enough, and it matters immensely if her damage is too low. It's a bad way to balance a character because low health doesn't matter if they never get hit.
Street fighter and tekken are not the same, in sf this gameplay design works
@@Evil-Fry you say that, but Akuma is way too strong in most of the games he's in and he's balanced around hp
@@ChicaneryBear im talking mostly around sfv and sf6, not the rest, because yes historically he's broken, but in sfv and 6 they make a good job with him
Jun main here.. She's my girl, and that's that.
Funny that I just picked up Jun a week ago... And yeah her neutral is so ass. I have to solely rely on my opponent being aggressive and play for CH. But somehow I like her
Jun isn't bad she still pretty good but not top tier.
Even whit all of that tools that they took away from her... she isn't stronger to actual dragunov
New video from me coming soon explaining why shes A+ teir. Already released tech and combos in the last week. You guys have it all wrong trust me she's nasty
come to LATAM, Mishimas, jun, Bryan, king and Claudio are super popular here
2:21 kuma has the exact same thing but nobody mentions it
don't forget Kuma's heat....
No one plays her? I come across her a lot in ranked (red-purple ranks)
Everybody asked for her, nobody plays her
jun main here. she needs wr low moves.
Crazy ish.
Well, at my level they play her.
She can carry to early red asily.
Anyone can get to red easy
She’s everywhere bro
Cap
I run into her all the time and she's is a nuisance.
Jun still good her combos and damage still good I been destroying people with her
What are you taking about, I face minimum 3 Jun per day
Easy mode characters with zero depth deserve to fall apart at higher level play
She's not "easy mode" though
How is she easy mode if you have to work harder to win with her at higher levels? Characters like Dragunov and Yoshi have a bunch of strong tools and gimmicks that make it easier to win.
JUN is just the weaker version of LILI. They both have very similar playstyle but LILI has a lot more gimmicks than JUN.
She is more like Asuka, because they literally have some of the same moves. They actually gave Asuka some of Jun moves from Tekken 2.
@Dmoney_93 Asuka plays very differently to Jun. The playstyle of Jun is a lot about going in with long range moves then mix up opponents using strings and stances. This is very similar to LILI.
Can you make a Steve video
Ppl play her. She was top of the leaderboards last I checked. I don't play her cause I'm playing with Asuka who plays more like Jun used to in T2 and TTT...
The character is not bad no character in Tekken 8 is bad that is all
Idk why you are considering Jun weak, she has great tools & also there are people who play Jun and i see her every now and then. I am surprised you made a whole video about things that seem from personal experience from your side. If this was video about Panda then yea we can all agree.
She's not as cool or as interesting as other characters so she was never gonna be popular if she wasn't high tier at the beginning of the game.
In other words, many of the players who played her, are now playing dragunov, jin, nina, king, feng.
...more like no one who wants an easy win does not play Jun. Same thing with the other "trash tier" characters, such as Devil Jin, Jack, Panda, Kuma. No?
Still perfer her over asuka
I think she is so cheap that ppl would feel guilty playing her. (My opinion)
It’s the gaming waifu syndrome. Give the waifus something different, whether it’s busted or super weak, just keep it
Hidden op despise of the combos issues at launch (ofc at her favor. Otherwise, ppl wouldn't complain at all because she's one of the waifus of the game. Therefore, she deserves it, I guess🤷♂️).
Biased video, knowing that even if Kuma is free battle points, literally few one besides me, some streamers and pro players only plays. Discord themed servers, litteraly 200 to 500 people connected to talk about him vs more than 10k community members for Heihachi, Reina, Jin , Eddy etc...