I know you're a Bryan specialist but i really appreciate these kinds of general knowledge videos and I wish there was more content like this in the future
small tekken gives me a little bit more space to play, It really helps, and I did work out this for myself becasue I was tired of this mixup stuffs , good vid
Yo dude this video is amazing! Ive been feeling stuck progress wise in tekken but alot of what you said is helping me form a new approach to the game. "The people that have habits, they usually die for doing the things they win with" is the biggest take away from me that i now know what to look for in my replays. More content like this bro!
These yap sessions are really useful I tried using more keep out tools in some recent games after watching this and it helped tremendously, also found I shouldn't be scared to use higher frame moves and just commit to whatever attack im thinking about thanks homie. Have a local tournament in 9 days hope I can learn heihachi by then
Genuinely not even capping I went from Ganryu to mighty ruler. I was playing way too passive instead of being active especially on plus frames. Thank you 🙏
Good advice. Very important. A "50/50" isn't a true coin flip. It's a bit of a misnomer. "Mix up" is generally a much better term. A huge part of the game is learning your opponents tendencies and then using those again them. Every choice/guess you make is informed by all of the previous interactions. Your opponent is doing this same thing. BUT! you don't want to just stand there and wait for them to pick the option you guess correctly if you're actually trying to get better. You gotta learn how to defend against your opponent, sure, but they can't mix you up if you're the one hitting them. Maybe most importantly, the more opportunities you give them, the more of your mental stack will be dedicated to predicting the low instead of making active decisions. Big truths in this video.
i think hidetone was also skirting over the topic of controlling tempo. there are so many ways to negate/enhance 50/50s and timing is just one major component. its why people have coined the term 'true 50/50'. kaz just knocked u down and is flawlessly wavuing on u when ur down and knows how to cd~iws2/ff3/hellsweep? u have to commit to the guess. but thats the 50/50 that was respectable, earning ur mixups with oki has been a part of tekken for as long as i can remember, the direction bamco is going with forced mixups and stances for everyone just really spits on this misunderstood mechanic.
@@markkim1356 Direction bamco is going? Misunderstood mechanic? Chill with the negativity broski. We're all here to talk about how much we love the game you don't gotta yuck the yum. The point I'm making is a human brain is never going to pick option A exactly half the time and option B exactly half the time in any situation. Everyone is more predictable than a "50/50".
@@BigDaddyWeshe's speaking facts though, there's a reason so many 2d fans are thriving in a game that would have taken them years to be somewhat good at
I've been waiting so long for a pro player to make a video about adapting on offense/defense and picking up on opponents' timings and I think you're the one might actually eventually do that Thanks for this vid too though of course
I feel like I had this talk but on Soulcalibur. You mentioning that we can't be passive all the time is a good reminder of that very talk I had years ago.
i like to create situations where if they try to mix me up the options that hit me are limited in certain times in the neutral. Throwing out moves with counterhit properties makes the opponent scared to mix you up. using high crush and airborne attacks makes a gamble for the enemy. If they go for a move when im in the air, my gamble is that they might not be ready to float me. if they use a high and i high crush i win the battle. if i get hit it is what it is, that just means they pressed before me or used a quicker move. giving the opponent control of the neutral is giving the enemy more opportunities to damage you. you gotta stay on the move. Playing nina has really made me confident in the neutral because the people that beat me have to take over the neutral whiles i have it.
realizing this really made me a better T8 player. in T7 i was doing it to a degree, but the mixups weren’t as much of a thing to worry about, mostly just safe CH launchers that discouraged anyone from doing anything committal in neutral. once i realized i dont have to be afraid of them anymore and can actually be a lot more active in neutral, i felt like i could “keep up” with the game
Great video but I feel like you underestimate how much your own experience is weighing into your intuition of making fast paced decisions. Many players do not have developed the ability to make quick decisions as they don’t have the same high level experience as you do. That’s if I would teach a piano student a couple piano blues riffs and tell him he has to implement it in his next improv session. It just wouldn’t work. I think there is a big difference between starting slow and becoming faster and just trying to be fast without understanding why it works or doesn’t work
I agree that starting slow and working your way up to being faster is totally viable. But I also think that maybe the point was to just make ANY decision faster, even if its the wrong one. Because now you have information to go off of and you can go back into the replay and ask why that decision didn’t work and figure out what you could have done instead. Your intuition of what the correct decision is gets better as you continue to make the fast decisions.
Advice like this doesn’t help people lose less, it gives people direction and structure on how to lose efficently. 1000 games losing standing there trying to low parry someone vs 1000 games losing trying to guess whats happening next quickly are gonna benefit you differently. Imo the speed of thinking does improve over time but there are people unwilling to continue to believe in their plays because of a couple losses. I wanna encourage people to play fast but dont mash!
Yes but you also listen to piano blues riffs and fully fledged songs as a piano student even if you don’t play them. Knowing next steps even if it’s not relevant at your skill level is still useful, and of course 1 on 1 coaching and 1 on 1 piano lessons are the only way to tailor lessons to an individual. I think this video is still useful information for most people
Can you elaborate on this concept while facing Hwoarang? Bc I can't seem to do ANYTHING against them. If i try to interrupt the string i get launched. If i stand there I get hit with a low which opens me up to even more plus frames and more mix ups. And since all of his strings are kicks, the range is crazy... I get what you're saying about making a decision and living with the outcome... but what can I do against a character like Hwoarang when it seems like every decision is the wrong one?
I like to stand there and defend and be rewarded with good punishes instead of mashing on my opponent with fast buttons to interrupt him, even if it’s a harder playlstyle on T8 this is how I’ve always been playing fighting games
Even in Knee’s case, he uses jabs a lot to interrupt pressure and limit his opponent’s timings. Or at least, that’s how I interpret them. He does a lot of moving and watching but he will stick out hitboxes sporadically to keep people from getting too comfortable.
I might be the worst player when it comes to Fighting Mishimas, I guess wrong every time and im under alot of stress when they keep wavedashing on me at lightspeed
But neutral is a guessing game too. You try to preventively keep out, you get whiff punished. You don't press anything, you get rushed down. I don't get this genre
do a perfect electric
works for me
@@skylrxoxoI love you
I know you're a Bryan specialist but i really appreciate these kinds of general knowledge videos and I wish there was more content like this in the future
small tekken gives me a little bit more space to play, It really helps, and I did work out this for myself becasue I was tired of this mixup stuffs , good vid
Anakin also told me some life changing info. God bless that man.
What was it?
Commenting bc curious too haha
I play feng and l asked him before l played if he had any advice and he said db3, but u gotta be quick with it.
What really changed me was he borrowed my controller cable and l can feel his tekken prowess coursing thru it.
😅😅@@mikekingtaberna8917
Yo dude this video is amazing! Ive been feeling stuck progress wise in tekken but alot of what you said is helping me form a new approach to the game. "The people that have habits, they usually die for doing the things they win with" is the biggest take away from me that i now know what to look for in my replays. More content like this bro!
These yap sessions are really useful I tried using more keep out tools in some recent games after watching this and it helped tremendously, also found I shouldn't be scared to use higher frame moves and just commit to whatever attack im thinking about thanks homie. Have a local tournament in 9 days hope I can learn heihachi by then
The perfect advice for neutral plays, I've learned this because of the community through observing and playing with good players
Actually useful information and easy to diggest. Recommending this to my friends again.
Genuinely not even capping I went from Ganryu to mighty ruler. I was playing way too passive instead of being active especially on plus frames. Thank you 🙏
Good advice. Very important.
A "50/50" isn't a true coin flip. It's a bit of a misnomer. "Mix up" is generally a much better term.
A huge part of the game is learning your opponents tendencies and then using those again them. Every choice/guess you make is informed by all of the previous interactions. Your opponent is doing this same thing.
BUT! you don't want to just stand there and wait for them to pick the option you guess correctly if you're actually trying to get better. You gotta learn how to defend against your opponent, sure, but they can't mix you up if you're the one hitting them.
Maybe most importantly, the more opportunities you give them, the more of your mental stack will be dedicated to predicting the low instead of making active decisions.
Big truths in this video.
i think hidetone was also skirting over the topic of controlling tempo. there are so many ways to negate/enhance 50/50s and timing is just one major component.
its why people have coined the term 'true 50/50'. kaz just knocked u down and is flawlessly wavuing on u when ur down and knows how to cd~iws2/ff3/hellsweep? u have to commit to the guess.
but thats the 50/50 that was respectable, earning ur mixups with oki has been a part of tekken for as long as i can remember, the direction bamco is going with forced mixups and stances for everyone just really spits on this misunderstood mechanic.
@@markkim1356 Direction bamco is going? Misunderstood mechanic? Chill with the negativity broski. We're all here to talk about how much we love the game you don't gotta yuck the yum.
The point I'm making is a human brain is never going to pick option A exactly half the time and option B exactly half the time in any situation. Everyone is more predictable than a "50/50".
@@BigDaddyWeshe's speaking facts though, there's a reason so many 2d fans are thriving in a game that would have taken them years to be somewhat good at
I've been waiting so long for a pro player to make a video about adapting on offense/defense and picking up on opponents' timings and I think you're the one might actually eventually do that
Thanks for this vid too though of course
That intro is fucking badass
Definitely a great video, and something I only started to understand more recently and helped a lot in my gameplay.
I feel like I had this talk but on Soulcalibur. You mentioning that we can't be passive all the time is a good reminder of that very talk I had years ago.
i would love another video on this topic. imo it's where I struggle the most. Great video!
Nice video, align with my philosophy for tekken: "hit them before they hit you first." Thats why I love T8.
Thank you so much for this video. Your words unlocked something in me. I'll do better.
No panick buttons or good power rush for Bryan…gotta call out those mixups and die trying!
Great vid Tone, pls make more
i like to create situations where if they try to mix me up the options that hit me are limited in certain times in the neutral. Throwing out moves with counterhit properties makes the opponent scared to mix you up. using high crush and airborne attacks makes a gamble for the enemy. If they go for a move when im in the air, my gamble is that they might not be ready to float me. if they use a high and i high crush i win the battle. if i get hit it is what it is, that just means they pressed before me or used a quicker move. giving the opponent control of the neutral is giving the enemy more opportunities to damage you. you gotta stay on the move. Playing nina has really made me confident in the neutral because the people that beat me have to take over the neutral whiles i have it.
realizing this really made me a better T8 player. in T7 i was doing it to a degree, but the mixups weren’t as much of a thing to worry about, mostly just safe CH launchers that discouraged anyone from doing anything committal in neutral. once i realized i dont have to be afraid of them anymore and can actually be a lot more active in neutral, i felt like i could “keep up” with the game
Awesome video bro! 😎 excited for the next one!
wow nice video!! i learned a lot! :D
Great video, look forward to more from you Tone!
Great vid.
First content I've seen from you. A friend posted it today for a mutual to watch. Followed on Twitch and look forward to catching a stream.
"And you all have adhd" gotta be the best outro I've heard in a long time
That toddler 4:35 looks fcking hilarious 😂
Phitus
Was literally just watching a phidx video about defense and then this video pops up in my feed once it ended. Lit
Engagement comment goin crazy 🔥 (solid video as always)
Kinda hooked on ya" channel lately among some other Bryan pros'....no time to play so keep em coming plz
Damn ill never get mixed up when I see a new Tone video just dropped
🥹
Exactly the video I needed
4:19 anakin impression kinda on point ngl lmao
Great video, learned something with this one 💯
It can be summed up like I was told when I first started in law enforcement. The worst thing you can do is nothing.
I felt personally attacked at the end.
this MIGHT be my goat :shrugemoji: :100emoji: :hmmMeeting:
TH-cam did you dirty with the emojis
it was intentional 💀
Yoshimitsu: So anyway i started FLASHING
Great video but I feel like you underestimate how much your own experience is weighing into your intuition of making fast paced decisions. Many players do not have developed the ability to make quick decisions as they don’t have the same high level experience as you do. That’s if I would teach a piano student a couple piano blues riffs and tell him he has to implement it in his next improv session. It just wouldn’t work. I think there is a big difference between starting slow and becoming faster and just trying to be fast without understanding why it works or doesn’t work
I agree that starting slow and working your way up to being faster is totally viable. But I also think that maybe the point was to just make ANY decision faster, even if its the wrong one. Because now you have information to go off of and you can go back into the replay and ask why that decision didn’t work and figure out what you could have done instead. Your intuition of what the correct decision is gets better as you continue to make the fast decisions.
Whole lotta yapping for a sentences worth of information
Advice like this doesn’t help people lose less, it gives people direction and structure on how to lose efficently. 1000 games losing standing there trying to low parry someone vs 1000 games losing trying to guess whats happening next quickly are gonna benefit you differently.
Imo the speed of thinking does improve over time but there are people unwilling to continue to believe in their plays because of a couple losses. I wanna encourage people to play fast but dont mash!
Yes but you also listen to piano blues riffs and fully fledged songs as a piano student even if you don’t play them. Knowing next steps even if it’s not relevant at your skill level is still useful, and of course 1 on 1 coaching and 1 on 1 piano lessons are the only way to tailor lessons to an individual. I think this video is still useful information for most people
Practice Practice Practice
Can you elaborate on this concept while facing Hwoarang? Bc I can't seem to do ANYTHING against them. If i try to interrupt the string i get launched. If i stand there I get hit with a low which opens me up to even more plus frames and more mix ups. And since all of his strings are kicks, the range is crazy... I get what you're saying about making a decision and living with the outcome... but what can I do against a character like Hwoarang when it seems like every decision is the wrong one?
Honestly mind opening❤❤
Woo another bryan fury guide from the tju tutorial god
I like to stand there and defend and be rewarded with good punishes instead of mashing on my opponent with fast buttons to interrupt him, even if it’s a harder playlstyle on T8 this is how I’ve always been playing fighting games
Even in Knee’s case, he uses jabs a lot to interrupt pressure and limit his opponent’s timings.
Or at least, that’s how I interpret them.
He does a lot of moving and watching but he will stick out hitboxes sporadically to keep people from getting too comfortable.
He uses df1 more than jab
@@WeMissDimebag his jab placements are amazing
This is all great, but what if I’m a Bushin stuck DVJ?
These 10 minutes have been massive for me.
0:56 Hi chat 😁👋
Time to overthink another Kings sprint situation
New Tone just dropped.
MOM I MADE IT IN A TONE VIDEO
After this video I no longer get mixed & I master the neutral game. Thank you hidetone. I have lots of girlfriends now.
This video makes me realize I was playing T8 in T7 lmao
Thanks for the tips and letting me use your Lamborghini to take my sick fish to the vet tone U da Goat
If they are trying to mix you up, keep em out.
Alisa: 😬
I might be the worst player when it comes to Fighting Mishimas, I guess wrong every time and im under alot of stress when they keep wavedashing on me at lightspeed
this is good,,, just got fuked by heihachi wavu running mix
The adhd callout FeelsBadMan
i need the instrumental in ur intro
Fun fact: "Tone" is a female name in Norway. It means the same as in english, a musical sound.
4:34 you never played in a tekken arcade machine before?
Please make a better neutral guide ❤
"just hit the child before they rock paper scissors you"
How do you play neutral when people just press round start?
Every round start it’s better if you block, sidestep guard or kbd if you can do it cleanly.
@@baconbitz7804 neutral starts at Fight, so just do what beats what they open with
TLDW: mix them before they mix you.
Let me breakdown for yall: the best one spamming shit wins. Welcome to tekken.
Watched this video and have lost every game since I saw it
😂😂😂
I thought this was a music tutorial
Intro so hard
lmao the toddler phi
When does "Real tekken" start?
Red Ranks.
From Tekken God and up I would say
tekken emperor
Somewhere around god ranks if you're asking about a rank
@@SD-mi2vc maybe real tekken is the friends we made along the way
“You guys all have ADHD” LOL
i have to report this before the red ranks see it
I never lose the 50/50. It's pretty easy tbh. i just simply...uninstall the game🤣
But neutral is a guessing game too. You try to preventively keep out, you get whiff punished. You don't press anything, you get rushed down. I don't get this genre
40 minutes next time.
Neutral is nonexistent in t8 lol watch any high level play both players are always staying in close range forcing timing mixups
first
this guy talking made me sleep
Well, well, well - somebody knows about sansukumi-the three-way deadlock.
you play Byron ?
yes
ROFL - I DO have ADHD ! 🤣