I'm going to a tournament abroad this weekend and I am not expecting to so well as a Fujin scrub, but I really appreciate that I don't have to go through the whole movelist, but I can just copy your notes and record the inouts that way to lab the moves. I do use the movelist to mixup things like stances and look for moves I see outside what youve shown, but it saves me so much time by itself. Really, thank you so much man!!
@@xiSyndoxя думаю это зависит от матчапа который ты встречаешь на пути к игре, я встрелил Лили и просто умер 2 раза подряд Perfect . Также в ранкеде я никогда не встречал Фенга или только один раз Фенга, Зафину, Виктора, Сяою. Если я их встречу, даже красные ранги не оставят от меня мокрого места. По этому я думаю что Фуджин ничего не значит если не знать матчапа. Я на Брайане могу в зеркале победить синих рангов, но проигрываю красным если не знаю матчапа. В последнее время я понял что ключ к победе это знание матчапов, но это так утомляет, я час сидел и до сих пор не различаю серию Джина или Лили, для меня как будто все удары на одного лицо
Good to watch, started playing lili for the first time literaly today, imma look out for those to think on how to plug the gaps, these vids help as much to fight vs as to fight with, thanks!
One more tip from Lilli main: never try to punish her if she does 3,1 f 3+4 this gives her plus frames that makes any string safe after. Also lilli can bait you to try punish her in Back turn with downback and then just countert hit with either f4 or DF3. Yes if she does this without any of her frames traps punish her but most good lilli's aren't going to do this. Also 1,1,3 is only really used if we see you spam over Back turn stance same with B1, f, 4. Most of her kit is 50/50 :) But nice guide :D
Do Feng too.. I know what to look for in most cases but his Heat Oni stomp move is only beatable up close if you time a power crush correctly otherwise nothing else works unless he’s just out of range. It’s freaking nuts
Good luck doing that. Play a Lili with good strike/throw game and it's a nightmare. Who said Lili can't block and 12 frame punish into pressure anyway? Most of her good strings can be cancelled early. You can sidestep and end up in a combo easily.
@@rabbyd542 strike throws are only real mixups in street fighter. Throws are reactable in tekken. I know because I can break them on reaction myself, hence why pros on TH-cam teach new players how to practice throw brakes. And why street fighter players hate throw loops
@@yoshitsune5691 strike throw is a mixup when you're thinking about mixups. You can't make a 12 frame reaction when you already attempted to make a read unless you are in the top 5% of humanity; try an actual reaction test and tell me how fast you are. Your viewpoint is simplistic. The people who make coaching videos cater to the lowest denominator of idiots. I destroy people who learn off TH-cam because they are literally clones of each other.
@@yoshitsune5691 Let me add that every throw break puts you back into neutral so it's actually a useless skill but keep practicing that lmao. You're letting yourself get conditioned for, wait for it, mixups. That's the point of strike/throw is to create a nasty mental stack. I highly doubt you tech even 50% of throws and if you do I'd like to see a replay.
these videos always give me mixed feels like thanks for the helpful info and the other side is these fake ass moves fr got me good when most of them were launchable ffs
Can you jun next? im watching my replays against her and blocking her attacks just gives her more frames. The only conclusion i ended up to counter jun is just make her whiff 😭
Helpful sure, you did miss that Lili can still outplay you from these. She's easy to beat in lower ranks, pretty much just learn the animations and block until your turn..and you will get a turn unlike against certain other characters, but these aren't gonna work above flame ruler since they're very careful and keep more distance aka not "spammy" if that's the word. Now some are sure like every character, but not all. For "spammy", I will say Reina is, or Hwoarangutan, compare Lili to that..way too slow, I personally don't see any spam. If you lose to a Lili you are bad at the matchup most likely, at least below purple ranks.
Lili is quite slow, you telling me in purple rank you find her more difficult than hwoarangutan and reinas? You just don't know the slow ass animations, you'll figure it out. It also depends on the character you play, some have shittier frames when fighting others if you get what I mean.
if at 0:15 someone notices you're doing 6 moves and then u repeat these again, they might think you're manipulating and cherry picking moves with no tracking for curious people that's what he did in first golden rule: 1. df3+4 2. u3+4 3. uf3+4 4. 3,2 5. f4 6. f3+4 7. u3+4 (nr.2) 8 .f4 (nr.5) 9. 3,2 (nr.4) 10. u3+4 (nr.2)
Stop, there's no way to beat Lili she is the best. Sidewalk leaves you open to 3+4 which goes straight into heat. I literally play her at almost fully plus or safe. Stop teaching these lies 🥹. I never make wildly aggressive negative on block attacks...
If I conditioned Lili so hard to the point where she needs to rely on 3+4 to catch me walking, then I’m winning the matchup. Instead of dealing with all of her other moves, now I’m dealing with only one move. Her 3+4 is a double high that you can easily duck and launch. Do you get my point?
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As a Lili main it's fun when people know how to counter her. I get to use all the homing moves I never use
I'm going to a tournament abroad this weekend and I am not expecting to so well as a Fujin scrub, but I really appreciate that I don't have to go through the whole movelist, but I can just copy your notes and record the inouts that way to lab the moves. I do use the movelist to mixup things like stances and look for moves I see outside what youve shown, but it saves me so much time by itself. Really, thank you so much man!!
Bro, fujin is like the top 5% of tekken players, don’t beat yourself up. Good luck at the tournament! I hope my videos helped
@@xiSyndoxя думаю это зависит от матчапа который ты встречаешь на пути к игре, я встрелил Лили и просто умер 2 раза подряд Perfect .
Также в ранкеде я никогда не встречал Фенга или только один раз Фенга, Зафину, Виктора, Сяою. Если я их встречу, даже красные ранги не оставят от меня мокрого места.
По этому я думаю что Фуджин ничего не значит если не знать матчапа.
Я на Брайане могу в зеркале победить синих рангов, но проигрываю красным если не знаю матчапа.
В последнее время я понял что ключ к победе это знание матчапов, но это так утомляет, я час сидел и до сих пор не различаю серию Джина или Лили, для меня как будто все удары на одного лицо
Good to watch, started playing lili for the first time literaly today, imma look out for those to think on how to plug the gaps, these vids help as much to fight vs as to fight with, thanks!
Im glad its helping both sides!
@@xiSyndoxwhy does Lili players always play without shoes and show their feetsies in ranked?
BLESS YOU FR MANNN I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR THIS
Gotchu 🔥
Its honestly crazy guides like this are so rare, this is like the most helpful shit ever
Im really glad its helping you out!
The easiest option to counter Lili in backturn is to stand block unless you see her snake edge. Let her commit and then block punish her.
Until they start doing the tech where they duck for a bit to make it look like a snake edge and then do the 1+2 mid launcher.
The low is technically unseeable since it's i20.
Syndox! You sir are a genious -I get blown up by every Lili, I just don't know the match-up lol. Studying this right now. Thank you for sharing!
Anytime!
Nice guide, now I know how to mix up my opponents properly when playing lili! :)
This series is so good. You should do more of this. Have you ever thought of covering the entire roster? Your feedback and format is awesome!
Thank you thank you for the tutorials! Hopefully we could get a xiaoyu next
Ngl this content is crazy good!! Please keep going looking forward to your next videos / and how to counter kings
King DONE ✅
another note about her moves with lots of pushback: they are launch punishable near walls
This is a good summary and review how to get by against her. Thanks so much!
So many of lilis moves are punishable it makes me hate that shes my main
I mean she has some great + frames as well from DF3 and QCF3+4
On the 12 string, as Jin, you can use his Punch Sabaki (b1+2) for reversal on the first punch. It requires timing.
Dude, this is really really good stuff!
Appreciate it!
Waiting for Demolish Feng, anyoe else? :)
Just wait...... for the patch.
Perfect video, it was exactly what i was searching for. thanks so much ❤
Very very very usefull. Thanks!
No problem!
3:07 omg needed this, this lili player kept spamming it and I had no clue what to do. I would’ve won so many situations. This is great, thanks!
You’re welcome!
i wish this series existed for other fighting games. this is hugely helpful!
One more tip from Lilli main: never try to punish her if she does 3,1 f 3+4 this gives her plus frames that makes any string safe after. Also lilli can bait you to try punish her in Back turn with downback and then just countert hit with either f4 or DF3. Yes if she does this without any of her frames traps punish her but most good lilli's aren't going to do this. Also 1,1,3 is only really used if we see you spam over Back turn stance same with B1, f, 4. Most of her kit is 50/50 :) But nice guide :D
Bro is putting in work! Great job man!
Thanks man
Excellent job, I really needed this. I hope you can find the time to do a Leo one to.
Nice video, can u make a video about lee, that char it's a machine of plus frames really opresive
You're work will live on 🎉 ty good sir for the information yet again ❤
Anytime man!
On everything I love...I hate Lili with a passion. You are doing the Lord's work with this.
hope this video alleviated some of the pain 😂
I'm with you. Hate hate hate Lili.
Do Feng too.. I know what to look for in most cases but his Heat Oni stomp move is only beatable up close if you time a power crush correctly otherwise nothing else works unless he’s just out of range. It’s freaking nuts
Thanks a lot for all of your punish videos
You are most welcome 🙏
I HATE Lili. Despise her. I will work on this stuff. This looks solid.
Do Nina next
Hey man what about left piercing thorn and circle kick
I like to do up and triangle for the side steppers
Subbed thanks!!
Appreciate it!
Thank you so much!
It’d be great if in just one of these you showcased moves the people online actually hsed
This is great stuff. Steve or Law next PLEASE
You're a lifesaver man. Please do Nina next.
How to demolish lili: block them
Damn I click on this video specifically to type block them 😂
Good luck doing that. Play a Lili with good strike/throw game and it's a nightmare. Who said Lili can't block and 12 frame punish into pressure anyway?
Most of her good strings can be cancelled early. You can sidestep and end up in a combo easily.
@@rabbyd542 strike throws are only real mixups in street fighter. Throws are reactable in tekken. I know because I can break them on reaction myself, hence why pros on TH-cam teach new players how to practice throw brakes. And why street fighter players hate throw loops
@@yoshitsune5691 strike throw is a mixup when you're thinking about mixups. You can't make a 12 frame reaction when you already attempted to make a read unless you are in the top 5% of humanity; try an actual reaction test and tell me how fast you are. Your viewpoint is simplistic. The people who make coaching videos cater to the lowest denominator of idiots. I destroy people who learn off TH-cam because they are literally clones of each other.
@@yoshitsune5691 Let me add that every throw break puts you back into neutral so it's actually a useless skill but keep practicing that lmao. You're letting yourself get conditioned for, wait for it, mixups. That's the point of strike/throw is to create a nasty mental stack. I highly doubt you tech even 50% of throws and if you do I'd like to see a replay.
Hey... The Dragunov video was cool. I appreciate it.. Can we hide this one, though?...🤣
How much 😂
This is helpful i labbed her b4 but i learned something new
Im glad you took something out of this video
@@xiSyndox i would like to play with u sometime. I play hwoarang and i wanna c how good u r
How to beat Lili. Know all her frames and tracking on her moves.
me as a lili main taking notes 📝
Can you do Feng, Bears, or Zafina next? Those characters are ridiculous
Would love a vid on how to deal with yoshi ❤
Goated uploads!
🔥
The goat returns
these videos always give me mixed feels like thanks for the helpful info and the other side is these fake ass moves fr got me good when most of them were launchable ffs
Tekken can get really knowledge checky sometimes
Thankyou!!
Another gem my guy!
Glad to help!
Can you jun next? im watching my replays against her and blocking her attacks just gives her more frames. The only conclusion i ended up to counter jun is just make her whiff 😭
Good stuff! You just saved my sanity haha
I hope this video made the matchup a lot easier
Pour one out for the steves and zafinas not launching all these damn -15 moves :(
Helpful sure, you did miss that Lili can still outplay you from these. She's easy to beat in lower ranks, pretty much just learn the animations and block until your turn..and you will get a turn unlike against certain other characters, but these aren't gonna work above flame ruler since they're very careful and keep more distance aka not "spammy" if that's the word. Now some are sure like every character, but not all.
For "spammy", I will say Reina is, or Hwoarangutan, compare Lili to that..way too slow, I personally don't see any spam. If you lose to a Lili you are bad at the matchup most likely, at least below purple ranks.
great vid can we get a anti feng pls
Brother can you do this for Jack 8 as well
I'm being cooked against them
In order to tell me anything, I first need to subscribe!
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You gotta do Bryan next
Demolish Steve using Victor pls!!
Do Jin next please!
Nice video.. my Lili will demolish you 😂I promise
waiting for leo 🙌👑
ty a lot :D
No problem!
Please do a feng video.
Can you do Kuma and Panda?
nice!
Need this for leo
defs need a feng one
The only lili i played against pluggeda on me twice
Welcome to Pluggen 8!
@@xiSyndox
For some reason red/purple rank is nothing but annoying ass Lili spam
Lili is quite slow, you telling me in purple rank you find her more difficult than hwoarangutan and reinas? You just don't know the slow ass animations, you'll figure it out. It also depends on the character you play, some have shittier frames when fighting others if you get what I mean.
Uh, yes please!
As a Lili player I thank you for the great video! It's actually particularly useful for Lili players.
She also sucks dealing with pressure
Xiaoyu please 🙇🏾♂️
Is it just my impression or tekken 8 is full of spamming characters??
this will only make me stronger as Lili muahahahaha
Thanks lol
No problem!
Amazing anti Lili guide, Can we get a anti Feng Wei soon?
Anti Kazuya?
I like how the Lili video has the least views because her "spam" is actually terrible and she needs to mix up 30 different moves every game to win.
ain't gonna lie I just deinstalled and this vid makes me reinstall this dogsh game fml xD
STOP! no one watch this video!! 😭😭😭
Delete this asap😢
I swear this character is overrated
Jin? ikr, d2 all day will get you to mighty ruler easily. I did just that btw.
delete it
delete this video >:(
if at 0:15 someone notices you're doing 6 moves and then u repeat these again, they might think you're manipulating and cherry picking moves with no tracking
for curious people that's what he did in first golden rule:
1. df3+4
2. u3+4
3. uf3+4
4. 3,2
5. f4
6. f3+4
7. u3+4 (nr.2)
8 .f4 (nr.5)
9. 3,2 (nr.4)
10. u3+4 (nr.2)
Stop, there's no way to beat Lili she is the best. Sidewalk leaves you open to 3+4 which goes straight into heat. I literally play her at almost fully plus or safe. Stop teaching these lies 🥹. I never make wildly aggressive negative on block attacks...
If I conditioned Lili so hard to the point where she needs to rely on 3+4 to catch me walking, then I’m winning the matchup. Instead of dealing with all of her other moves, now I’m dealing with only one move. Her 3+4 is a double high that you can easily duck and launch. Do you get my point?