I always feel a tinge of excitement when TH-cam notifies me that The Sound Couple is on their way to another gig. I especially enjoy those occasions where Bart and Stacy have a gig at a venue we’ve seen before. Even though a person watching these videos on a regular basis might think that things remain the same at each venue, that is not what usually happens. And, in this case, we have a whole new set of Learning Opportunities at this familiar venue. Strictly for my own edification, I have noted the following things I learned by watching this video: 1. There is value in having backups to everything, including transportation. It is quite impressive that Bart has kept his previous van both available and serviceable. Seeing this vehicle in use warms my heart. 2. Stacy can pack any vehicle to the max. She has certainly done this when loading the backup van for this gig. 3. Finding a convenient place to load and unload saves time. Also, remembering what you learned the last time you were at a particular venue has great value. 4. Time and time again, the DeWalt MobileLock has proven its value, derived from the peace of mind it affords. 5. Even when faced with a bit of noise competition from the AV folks setting up the house PA system, Bart and Stacy extend the kind of professional courtesy for which they are well known. We also get a good reminder that audio feedback is not a phenomenon that we routinely experience throughout the normal gig attended by The Sound Couple. In fact, as we’ve noted before, Bart goes to great lengths to make certain his tuning of the system, particularly when a band relies on stage monitors, will prevent annoying feedback-no matter how the performers handle the mics. Later, Bart’s willingness to allow the use of one of their wireless mics, when the AV house PA system’s mic fails, once again illustrates the kind of professionalism that marks The Sound Couple. 6. I really like those drink sliders for the subs. Please be sure to watch the video when Bart and Stacy built the sliders: “The SC - No More Drinks on our Subs!” 7. In thinking about the other videos on this channel-most of which I’ve watched a dozen times-this is the first time that I remember seeing Bart plug the output snake (whip) from a band’s in-ear monitors rig into a PreSonus NSB 16.8 stage box connected (chained) to a PreSonus NSB 8.8 stage box, as opposed to connecting directly to the PreSonus StudioLive 32R mixer. As Bart proceeds to explain one of the downsides to this approach-particularly switching from analog to digital and the loss of preamp settings-he also gives us some greater insight into the value of the AVB protocol that PreSonus has adopted. ***Note: Believing that someone who works in the design engineering department at PreSonus watches this video, I hope that person takes note of the value it would be to having the preamp settings retained when switching from analog to digital, or vice versa.*** 8. Once Bart makes these changes, saving this Scene for possible future use whenever the NSB stage boxes are connected to receive the signals from the in-ear monitors rigs’ snake (whip) will be of great value. 9. As Bart takes us on a tour of the stage, it reminds us of how nice it is to have a band using in-ear monitors. No amps on stage means no stage sound competing with front-of-house sound. This gives the person mixing the band a much more contained ability to achieve a balanced sound from the instrumentalists and vocalists. 10. While operating the sound system in stereo, Bart shows us how panning the brass instruments to the opposite side of the stage from where the brass are located helps create a more balanced mix. This would especially apply at an indoor venue. 11. As Bart shows us the sound pressure levels that the sound system provides to the room, it is imperative to note that throughout the many venues where Bart has given us the opportunity to see the measured output of the system, there is a consistency to the sound level. This includes both venues inside a room, as well as venues outdoors. 12. Tear-down and load-out always has some important consistencies to observe. 13. During the ride home, Bart discusses some important issues related to the operation of the lighting. He also comments on the assistance they gave the house AV folks. As Bart and Stacy conclude this video with thanks to those who watch, it is equally important for The Sound Couple to hear our words of “thanks” for all they do to make it possible for us to travel along with them and to learn from their high level of competency. Thanks, Bart and Stacy. Thanks, indeed.
Hey Dean! I believe we have used the stage boxes to plug the XLR whip in to for gigs, but perhaps we didn't mention it. This was a surreal gig and we are glad that you are able to share with us your perspectives...we are learning from you!
Ha Ha! Thanks for your concern, but we aren't going away anytime soon....life is a journey and we are simply looking forward to the next chapter. We are definitely hanging in there but I always said I would not become that old dude sound guy.....no disrespect for guys hanging in there, but for me...I want to go out on our terms and on top.
We capture lighting in a bottle sometimes! As you know our goal is to hopefully educate and help others. We are not trying to make people look bad so we struggled a bit what to do with this. Some of the comments have already pointed at things maybe we could have considered doing, so hopefully we all learn someting. Thanks for the beard comment as I was really close last week of taking it off!
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What an absolute testimony to your professionalism by stepping in and offering your wireless mic, when the House mic became questionable. Because as we all know, anything related to sound gets pointed back to the "Sound People", even when the house sound faults. Question...Do you mount those diagonal covers on top of your subs to keep people from placing drinks, or do they have another purpose?
Thank you! As we mentioned in another comment...perhaps we should have shut all of our wireless units off during the program just to ensure we couldn't interfere. The covers are our drink sliders...more about them here: th-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/w-d-xo.html
Hi , I saw it go wrong when I saw the old equipment on stage. I wonder if you didn't get the jitters from that sound engineer of their own. I'm quite a bit allergic for howling microphones. Really expected you to intervene much sooner to adjust it and / or offer to use your equipment. I know it's not a part of the gig but just to quit that awful noise. And then from start to finish there where no mic issues 🙂 Don't get me wrong, older equipment can function perfect if you maintain it like the old VAN 🙂'm using lots of old stuff at the Theater. When I got to the theater I gave everything a thorough inspection and maintenance. And that's why we now have decent working sound system, some of the parts are older than 15 / 20 years. Fellow sound engineers are often amazed about the sound that they hear from those old speakers. Anyways it was again a nice Gig you brought to our home screens 🙂
Thanks. Typically, we just stay out of the way of the venues procedures, unless we need to. He is the guy and we weren't going to walk in and take charge. You never know how these things will go and that's part of the experience!
This is common for small corporate gigs, benefit events, etc. where the audience are there to do something other than purely watch/dance to the band. Everyone's around tables, which means dinner/drinks may have been served. The goal of the event planners may not have been a 'taking off' party.
Hi, Preamp behaviour can be tricky, but they do recall with scene regardless of routing. Try to save current scene, reroute inputs and then recall scene but ONLY with preamp filter selected (ie not recalling everything, just gains). I just discovered your YT channel and it’s gold :) I’m kind of starting little sound company (central Europe) with my wife and friends so I can emphasize with you. We also have Presonus console, so it’s nice to see their stuff in action. Wish you the best ;)
Thanks for the tip. Will take a look, but I think where things start to breakdown is when you are switching back and forth between network and analog. So if I have a channel set to analog, but at the next gig it's set to network, they are considered two different parameters tied to the source, not the "preamp" value. Keep in touch and we are so glad you are able to help you out!
Just wanted to drop a line to tell you guys that I enjoy your videos. I am in the business and I come across videos that show setup and break downs for gigs but they are on a much grander scale and I really cant identify with them. Your gigs and system is much more similar to what I do and I have (yours is a bit larger) so its easy to identify with you guys and learn. I am always trying to make my set up quicker and have already gotten many ideas. I wish I can get my wife to gig with me but thats a hard sell :-) anyway, thanks for your videos and I look forward to the next one. PS dont mind my profile, im logged into my son's account lol
loved the video the amateur av guy in the venue setting up had his setup all wrong having his mics in front of the FOH pa speaker arrays and cranking the gain up full is perfect recepie for feedback and also probably set his mics up to same frequencies causing cross frequencies keep up the great work you guys do
Agreed....there is a certain charm that older vehicles have....I guess memories as well. With that, I will be the one to take it to its final resting place.
Hi! as a band member and owner of my own sound system, after 18 years of playing and being in charge of the sound of my band, i think there´s no need to be kind of rude and make faces and expressions that obviously show some kind of discontent, maybe they were trying to save some money using old gear (mic system, and mixer), or simple gear, i follow you cause you are so professional on what your doing, i wish gigs here in Mexico were that professional (venues and facilities) maybe the next time you can offer some help or advice to the other mates, cause you´ll never know, i mean next time it´s one of us on the other side, let´s hope not, but i think you get my point. Anyway thank´s for reading, and please keep what you´re doing it motivates me to keep my job professional! and im sorry for my bad english.
Appreciate the perspective and understand what you are saying. Perhaps some cultural differences, but typically people are expected to competently do their job without negatively impacting others. We will help if asked for it. That feedback was painfully loud and hurt our ears very badly...we rely on them for our profession so I am going to get upset when someone puts our bodies in harms way. I once accidentally put feedback into a musicians monitor and they were upset and he let me know it too. He had every right to be upset with me and apologized for my error. I think about that every time I have someone standing in front of a monitor...and it will never happen again.
The biggest issue I have with laptop audio is well headphone jacks are starting to become scarce but if you use HDMI it will prefer HDMI for Audio and if it goes to sleep or anything sometimes switches back. And windows in particular whatever audio device was connected last it will switch to unless you change the setting really annoying. But part of this is being an AV tech and knowing that where in the chain am I losing Audio, where have I tested, what has changed. And this is hyper complicated by using user provided devices. I got around this problem that one place by taking the audio off of the projector but that only works if you're using HDMI and it has an output (or or you have an audio extractor).
Lots of respect back to you for your AV tech duties....not an easy job to be expected to understand all of this. Your job is the epicenter of how the average person doesn't get it or understand how complicated this can all be....they just want it to work.
I love these videos so much! I'm curious is there ever a point where you try and help other sound people? I know it can be hard sometimes, but It seems like the other guy just doesn't have a handle on the equipment that he's using.
Another viewer made a similar comment. That thought never crossed our minds! The van is great and that is why we keep it around. It's hard to say how much longer it will go. The engine is solid, but the body is pretty bad.
Hello, have you seen the tablet with which to operate, indeed all of them are great, beautiful videos. but my question is .. what size or model is it? Thanks in advance from Italy
A good friend of mine was messing with a DSP in the program during Sunday service. And bumped a speaker up 20db and made instant feedback for like 30 seconds. His shame follows him still! Haha. We all make mistakes, best to keep them short and rare.
And that's why I like running stereo. 99% of the cases it's mono but for the cost of one cable and amp and it comes out Mono anyway until you have a knob or in this case a slider specifically for this used case. The anti-mono knob.
Please do a detailed review of your digital mixer / lighting control rack! I'm a big fan of your compact and wireless control setup. I'd really appreciate that a lot! Greetings from the Philippines!
Laptops default to HDMI to send video and audio if left to their own devices. I usually try to route and test the AVB stageboxes before leaving to go to the gig. Not always possible but saves a lot of grief and heartache when time is tight. Enjoying your videos. 🖖
It would be difficult to go back to analog, but digital has it's challenges...just more frustrating when it's simply programming improvements...e.g. how about click and drag to move channels around?
@@thesoundcouple the new User layer in UC is somewhat helpful to get things in some sort of prioritised order. As you say digital certainly is clever but getting a good workflow can sometime be quite challenging.
@@scottproaudio Exactly....the planned design or omissions in design sure impacts user experience. It would be nice if closing those gaps could be prioritized.
Best wishes on your "in 3-5 years" attempt to give it up. It becomes part of your being. Also, in my state, you could put antique tags on that van. Put it in parades and stuff. ;- )
That may be true, but it's the plan for now and we will see where it goes. We could get classic plates for the van but never did because we didn't think it would last this long!
Yep, that was the goal as their whip would have not made it. Usually it's ok, but for some reason, we had a lot of channel routing reassignments. I feel like I have a good handle on this stuff, but trying to understand why the system behaves the way it does in some cases will simply drive you crazy. Instead, I will focus the energy on being able to identify and resolve the issues.
I was wondering where you got your angled subwoofer protection boxes? (Not sure what you call them). I hate the drinks and other items placed on subs and the scrimp aren't my thing.
Thanks for noticing! Those have been a life saver. We call those our "drink sliders" and you can see how we built them here: th-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/w-d-xo.html
I found the video right after I asked the question. I'd like to make something to keep.stuff off the edge of stage as well. Liquids next to musicians pedals and the monitors are no nos
@@billr1879 We see this a lot...in fact, we end up removing these off the stage at the end of the night because we don't want to be the one's that cause it to happen, but it's their drinks! It would be nice if folks could simply pick up after themselves a bit more for the sake of all, including themselves.
Love the work. Sound and lighting company from South Africa. Just want to find out if your subs peak in the event and how do you prevent if it does. Keep up the great work and can not wait for move videos
We monitor the system and have a pretty good feel when it's reached its limits. To prevent it, we try to scale our system to what the event needs are. After that, the system is only able get so loud and we wouldn't go beyond that. There has been a few gigs where I felt it was being pushed but our cabinets still perform great!
Are you running the computer plugged into the mixer ?, I have a presonus rack mixer and you can't run uc surface on both the computer and run the iPad , it lets you do a bunch of ipads though
The type of device connected should not matter. We connect tablets, computers, and phones all at the same time and the mixer doesn't care....but your network needs to be able to support the devices and your mixer needs to be on the network and device permissions set to allow the desired controls.
I get it some people can be an non experience when it comes to audio gear also understand that people don't have the patience to stay and listen to a lot of pain cuz that seem like it was it was practice practice makes perfect now don't forget that but that was like practice cuz it having a crowd left already😆
I'm with ya on the longevity of vehicles if you take care of them right now I'm driving a 23 year old jeep wrangler and it runs and drives great and hardly any rust on the body and there's some rust on the frame but other than that it's fine. It's too bad that you couldn't patch into the house system not because your system sound bad it actually sounds awesome I was just thinking of saving you guys time to set your system up but maybe it was harder to get everything set up with the house system I don't know but it looks like they spent a pretty penny on that system with the line array speakers and all except for the mixer.
@@thesoundcouple Got it ... More tongue and cheek than anything. Most importantly, we're all at differing points along our individual journeys, it's all good. Prolly shoulda left well enough alone ... Keep up the good work, despite what anyone says.
Curious. Did you coordinate your wireless with the house wireless? Do you think your stuff and the bands ears were stepping on their mic causing the drops? I noticed all your stuff was on and hot during that part of the production. Obviously he didn’t test his once yours was up.
That's a great point and definitely something we should consider. Over the years, I have felt we have taken the burden of "owning all things wireless issues". We can't own every issue, but we can certainly work on mitigating them with what's directly in our control.
@@thesoundcouple on another note. I have one of the nowsonic routers I purchased from Germany. I noticed they seem to longer exist. What is the latest firmware they released on those and do you have a copy? Thanks
@@jasonlapasinskas5302 The latest version they provided for download was Version 10.00.8. That was out for quite awhile. Contact us via e-mail if you need a copy.
We caught this while making the video and chuckled, but it was not funny at all when it happened....the lack of any awareness to the entire series of events is mind boggling.
Nós vamos olhar para isso. Gostaríamos que o TH-cam pudesse fornecer esse serviço, mas de acordo com nossas pesquisas anteriores, não parecia tão fácil de fazer.
Those are our wonderful “Drink Sliders”! Magically no drinks have appeared on our subs since we started using them!😄 You can see how we built them here: The SC - No More Drinks on our Subs! th-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/w-d-xo.html
We don't have anything to directly compare, but we have used all brands over the years and any of those brands will get the job done. For us, it was sticking with PreSonus because we needed a relatively compact cabinet that could offer the flexibility we needed. There hasn't been many situations where these haven't worked for us.
I don't know why the "in House" soundies always HAVE to "RING OUT" the place - like it's the same system - It's the same room - the only thing that may need adjustment is the volume once in a while and very minor EQ tweaks (if needed at all) ... it somewhat annoys me when this happens.
That feedback was in no way "Ringing out" the system... It was pure and utter incompetence. I would walk out of a venue if if I had to be subjected to that treatment during load in.
You have to integrate the classic van into the mix... show it off more... Depending on the gig... if it requires 'not so much gear' use the Ford and use the white Chevy/GMC (trailer if needed) for bigger gigs (more gear)...
Is there bad blood with the house line arrays? Kinda silly to have them there and not let you use them! By the way, that van is 11 years older than me.. sorry 😁
I am guessing for private events, the client would need to pay for house AV as well, which they won't do sense the band is bringing their own production....yes, the van is old and The Sound Couple is even older! We will be back again this year. We originally couldn't do it, but they changed the date and we were open for new one!
Sad to see those moving heads on the ceiling not being used, but, as a professional audio/visual equipment renter myself, the client gets what it pays for.
Our base lighting consists of Chauvet 4 Bar series (Flex, Tri, Quad, ColorPalette). We also have some from Blizzard (Stormchaser, Stiletto Glo, LB Par)
Well I can't tell what model that is directly but "The WRR-840A UHF synthesized diversity tuner is a tuner for an 800 MHz band UHF wireless". It's one thing to be old it's another thing to be illegal! Not that I'm too concerned we were kind of scammed out of wireless microphone and TV frequencies so we could pay to use 5G Data and it was sold to us as public safety (which is in part of the 800 MHz upgrade plan). But I'm also I ham radio operator and wireless microphone user and don't want to cause undue interference. Edit I was going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt but it seems to be the turn it up until it squeals then turn it down approach. Followed by the that's loud I'm not deaf let me do it again I didn't hear it.
I would agree...but it really depends on the type of events going on. I have been amazed on how loud some can be and this place hosts many different cultural events.
Bart has been doing the sound side since 1999, and I was officially put on the “payroll” 2011- but did the more “roadie” stuff with him for at least 8 years prior to 2011!
Yeah....we are a bit confused on who does what and with which gear. We were not told that anyone else would be there either....there were conversations with the venue and don't understand why this was not communicated to us.
My God, the guy testing the mic, why don’t ya just stand in front of the speaker! Oh i know what I’m doing as the cones on the speakers disintegrate! Duh!
boy the other sound guy needs a lot of work.. the feedback made him look so unprofessional ..next time talk to the the people running it and see if you could do the first part instead of the other sound guy.
We thought it was worked out, but it is common when there are multiple people involved, there is nobody managing all of pieces...or they assume and try to plan, just to find out that the venues have their rules. If this was such the case, it doesn't surprise me that we weren't told any of this. It's a judgment call that needs to be made, but our experience is that if there is obviously working engagement in process that doesn't include us, don't meddle.
I always feel a tinge of excitement when TH-cam notifies me that The Sound Couple is on their way to another gig. I especially enjoy those occasions where Bart and Stacy have a gig at a venue we’ve seen before. Even though a person watching these videos on a regular basis might think that things remain the same at each venue, that is not what usually happens. And, in this case, we have a whole new set of Learning Opportunities at this familiar venue.
Strictly for my own edification, I have noted the following things I learned by watching this video:
1. There is value in having backups to everything, including transportation. It is quite impressive that Bart has kept his previous van both available and serviceable. Seeing this vehicle in use warms my heart.
2. Stacy can pack any vehicle to the max. She has certainly done this when loading the backup van for this gig.
3. Finding a convenient place to load and unload saves time. Also, remembering what you learned the last time you were at a particular venue has great value.
4. Time and time again, the DeWalt MobileLock has proven its value, derived from the peace of mind it affords.
5. Even when faced with a bit of noise competition from the AV folks setting up the house PA system, Bart and Stacy extend the kind of professional courtesy for which they are well known.
We also get a good reminder that audio feedback is not a phenomenon that we routinely experience throughout the normal gig attended by The Sound Couple. In fact, as we’ve noted before, Bart goes to great lengths to make certain his tuning of the system, particularly when a band relies on stage monitors, will prevent annoying feedback-no matter how the performers handle the mics.
Later, Bart’s willingness to allow the use of one of their wireless mics, when the AV house PA system’s mic fails, once again illustrates the kind of professionalism that marks The Sound Couple.
6. I really like those drink sliders for the subs. Please be sure to watch the video when Bart and Stacy built the sliders: “The SC - No More Drinks on our Subs!”
7. In thinking about the other videos on this channel-most of which I’ve watched a dozen times-this is the first time that I remember seeing Bart plug the output snake (whip) from a band’s in-ear monitors rig into a PreSonus NSB 16.8 stage box connected (chained) to a PreSonus NSB 8.8 stage box, as opposed to connecting directly to the PreSonus StudioLive 32R mixer. As Bart proceeds to explain one of the downsides to this approach-particularly switching from analog to digital and the loss of preamp settings-he also gives us some greater insight into the value of the AVB protocol that PreSonus has adopted.
***Note: Believing that someone who works in the design engineering department at PreSonus watches this video, I hope that person takes note of the value it would be to having the preamp settings retained when switching from analog to digital, or vice versa.***
8. Once Bart makes these changes, saving this Scene for possible future use whenever the NSB stage boxes are connected to receive the signals from the in-ear monitors rigs’ snake (whip) will be of great value.
9. As Bart takes us on a tour of the stage, it reminds us of how nice it is to have a band using in-ear monitors. No amps on stage means no stage sound competing with front-of-house sound. This gives the person mixing the band a much more contained ability to achieve a balanced sound from the instrumentalists and vocalists.
10. While operating the sound system in stereo, Bart shows us how panning the brass instruments to the opposite side of the stage from where the brass are located helps create a more balanced mix. This would especially apply at an indoor venue.
11. As Bart shows us the sound pressure levels that the sound system provides to the room, it is imperative to note that throughout the many venues where Bart has given us the opportunity to see the measured output of the system, there is a consistency to the sound level. This includes both venues inside a room, as well as venues outdoors.
12. Tear-down and load-out always has some important consistencies to observe.
13. During the ride home, Bart discusses some important issues related to the operation of the lighting. He also comments on the assistance they gave the house AV folks.
As Bart and Stacy conclude this video with thanks to those who watch, it is equally important for The Sound Couple to hear our words of “thanks” for all they do to make it possible for us to travel along with them and to learn from their high level of competency. Thanks, Bart and Stacy. Thanks, indeed.
Hey Dean! I believe we have used the stage boxes to plug the XLR whip in to for gigs, but perhaps we didn't mention it.
This was a surreal gig and we are glad that you are able to share with us your perspectives...we are learning from you!
Old vehicles are better than the newer ones today. You guys are doing great.
Thanks! All of our vehicles are old! LOL!
3-5 years hanging it up... I just came across your videos about a year ago and Love watching them.. you can't hang it up..
Ha Ha! Thanks for your concern, but we aren't going away anytime soon....life is a journey and we are simply looking forward to the next chapter. We are definitely hanging in there but I always said I would not become that old dude sound guy.....no disrespect for guys hanging in there, but for me...I want to go out on our terms and on top.
This is how they tune the PA, old fashion.... man.... :))))))))) Greetings from a Presonus user overseas! Great job guy and girl ;)
Appreciate the comment! Thanks!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the old man is so used to the feedback it is like music in his ears 🤣🤣🤣
That's as good as reason as any...it was just an odd series of events for sure.
Great gig log! Love that you've kept the old van running.
Us too!
Love the Ford Van!
Thanks - it's a good old truck!
Bart looks nice with the beard.... thank you for saving the situation with the wireless... great job as always.
We capture lighting in a bottle sometimes! As you know our goal is to hopefully educate and help others. We are not trying to make people look bad so we struggled a bit what to do with this. Some of the comments have already pointed at things maybe we could have considered doing, so hopefully we all learn someting. Thanks for the beard comment as I was really close last week of taking it off!
I was busting a gut for a good part of the Video. I feel for you Bart.
Glad we can keep you entertained! Goes to show, you never what’s going to happen at a gig!
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Kami menghargai anda meluangkan masa untuk menonton. Kami cuba memastikan ia menarik!
What an absolute testimony to your professionalism by stepping in and offering your wireless mic, when the House mic became questionable. Because as we all know, anything related to sound gets pointed back to the "Sound People", even when the house sound faults. Question...Do you mount those diagonal covers on top of your subs to keep people from placing drinks, or do they have another purpose?
Thank you! As we mentioned in another comment...perhaps we should have shut all of our wireless units off during the program just to ensure we couldn't interfere. The covers are our drink sliders...more about them here: th-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/w-d-xo.html
Eardrum 1, Eardrum 2 yep both blown!
No words can describe...
🤣 Lmao at the beginning bloopers
Thanks for laughing along with us… this one will surely be replayed often as comedic relief!
Hi , I saw it go wrong when I saw the old equipment on stage. I wonder if you didn't get the jitters from that sound engineer of their own. I'm quite a bit allergic for howling microphones. Really expected you to intervene much sooner to adjust it and / or offer to use your equipment.
I know it's not a part of the gig but just to quit that awful noise. And then from start to finish there where no mic issues 🙂
Don't get me wrong, older equipment can function perfect if you maintain it like the old VAN 🙂'm using lots of old stuff at the Theater. When I got to the theater I gave everything a thorough inspection and maintenance. And that's why we now have decent working sound system, some of the parts are older than 15 / 20 years.
Fellow sound engineers are often amazed about the sound that they hear from those old speakers.
Anyways it was again a nice Gig you brought to our home screens 🙂
Thanks. Typically, we just stay out of the way of the venues procedures, unless we need to. He is the guy and we weren't going to walk in and take charge. You never know how these things will go and that's part of the experience!
The van is awesome
Dang, that band slaps, how are people not having fun haha
Definitely a low key gig in that regard....I think the people that did stay had a good time whether watching, conversing, or a bit of dancing.
How to make sure a party do not take off : leave those bright house lights on full during the set !
Yeah, not sure what would be appropriate for this gig...it didn't feel too bright, but it probably would have been a better choice.
This is common for small corporate gigs, benefit events, etc. where the audience are there to do something other than purely watch/dance to the band. Everyone's around tables, which means dinner/drinks may have been served. The goal of the event planners may not have been a 'taking off' party.
Very beautiful original tuning of the new car.
Glad you like it!
Too bad everybody left. They missed a great band and a great mix! Creds to you Stacey and Bart!
I find that to be sadly true with so many gigs....people don't always appreciate when music is that good.
Love the Lumineers shirt Stacy 😊
They were really fun to see in concert! And of course their music is good too!
I live in Brazil and I really like your videos congratulations Stacy and Bart.
Glad you like them! Thanks for being a loyal watcher!
Luv you guys, Cheers from Brazil
Thanks!
You are fortunate to work with some great bands.
We are....it's been a journey for sure!
Hi, Preamp behaviour can be tricky, but they do recall with scene regardless of routing. Try to save current scene, reroute inputs and then recall scene but ONLY with preamp filter selected (ie not recalling everything, just gains).
I just discovered your YT channel and it’s gold :) I’m kind of starting little sound company (central Europe) with my wife and friends so I can emphasize with you. We also have Presonus console, so it’s nice to see their stuff in action. Wish you the best ;)
Thanks for the tip. Will take a look, but I think where things start to breakdown is when you are switching back and forth between network and analog. So if I have a channel set to analog, but at the next gig it's set to network, they are considered two different parameters tied to the source, not the "preamp" value.
Keep in touch and we are so glad you are able to help you out!
that model of microphone Sony was used at the most "important" TV Channel in Brasil at 90' s
We have never come across this model
Just wanted to drop a line to tell you guys that I enjoy your videos. I am in the business and I come across videos that show setup and break downs for gigs but they are on a much grander scale and I really cant identify with them. Your gigs and system is much more similar to what I do and I have (yours is a bit larger) so its easy to identify with you guys and learn. I am always trying to make my set up quicker and have already gotten many ideas. I wish I can get my wife to gig with me but thats a hard sell :-) anyway, thanks for your videos and I look forward to the next one. PS dont mind my profile, im logged into my son's account lol
Appreciate the feedback...it's very helpful to know that we are on the right track!
oh so you're doing one of those oldies / Classics events. Maybe a classic car show, certainly a way to sneak and get good parking.
I love the old van. As long as you can trust it, use it. What are the flat panel (front) lights you use?
Those are Chauvet ColorPALETTE's.
loved the video the amateur av guy in the venue setting up had his setup all wrong having his mics in front of the FOH pa speaker arrays and cranking the gain up full is perfect recepie for feedback and also probably set his mics up to same frequencies causing cross frequencies keep up the great work you guys do
Hopefully, sharing our experiences will help others on both sides!
That van is so nice.....👍👍
Agreed....there is a certain charm that older vehicles have....I guess memories as well. With that, I will be the one to take it to its final resting place.
Hi! as a band member and owner of my own sound system, after 18 years of playing and being in charge of the sound of my band, i think there´s no need to be kind of rude and make faces and expressions that obviously show some kind of discontent, maybe they were trying to save some money using old gear (mic system, and mixer), or simple gear, i follow you cause you are so professional on what your doing, i wish gigs here in Mexico were that professional (venues and facilities) maybe the next time you can offer some help or advice to the other mates, cause you´ll never know, i mean next time it´s one of us on the other side, let´s hope not, but i think you get my point.
Anyway thank´s for reading, and please keep what you´re doing it motivates me to keep my job professional! and im sorry for my bad english.
Appreciate the perspective and understand what you are saying. Perhaps some cultural differences, but typically people are expected to competently do their job without negatively impacting others. We will help if asked for it. That feedback was painfully loud and hurt our ears very badly...we rely on them for our profession so I am going to get upset when someone puts our bodies in harms way. I once accidentally put feedback into a musicians monitor and they were upset and he let me know it too. He had every right to be upset with me and apologized for my error. I think about that every time I have someone standing in front of a monitor...and it will never happen again.
nice trick with balancing the brass - with a pan. Nice work.
It's a big reason why we decided to go stereo after many years of mixing mono.
The biggest issue I have with laptop audio is well headphone jacks are starting to become scarce but if you use HDMI it will prefer HDMI for Audio and if it goes to sleep or anything sometimes switches back. And windows in particular whatever audio device was connected last it will switch to unless you change the setting really annoying. But part of this is being an AV tech and knowing that where in the chain am I losing Audio, where have I tested, what has changed. And this is hyper complicated by using user provided devices.
I got around this problem that one place by taking the audio off of the projector but that only works if you're using HDMI and it has an output (or or you have an audio extractor).
Lots of respect back to you for your AV tech duties....not an easy job to be expected to understand all of this. Your job is the epicenter of how the average person doesn't get it or understand how complicated this can all be....they just want it to work.
I love these videos so much! I'm curious is there ever a point where you try and help other sound people? I know it can be hard sometimes, but It seems like the other guy just doesn't have a handle on the equipment that he's using.
Great question! There really isn't a right or wrong answer but we generally stick to our own business unless we are asked.
We’ve had to load our equipment in at an older venue using their freight elevator, rated at only 350 lbs., it was a lengthy process.
Hopefully you knew what you were getting in to! Never good when it's a surprise!
Nah, the house guy was straight up hating on my boi bart and the van is sick af 👍
Another viewer made a similar comment. That thought never crossed our minds! The van is great and that is why we keep it around. It's hard to say how much longer it will go. The engine is solid, but the body is pretty bad.
Hello, have you seen the tablet with which to operate, indeed all of them are great, beautiful videos. but my question is .. what size or model is it? Thanks in advance from Italy
We typically use an iPad Pro 12.9" or a Microsoft Surface Pro.
A good friend of mine was messing with a DSP in the program during Sunday service. And bumped a speaker up 20db and made instant feedback for like 30 seconds. His shame follows him still!
Haha. We all make mistakes, best to keep them short and rare.
What surprised us is the lack of acknowledgement. That told me we were way to far off to even start anything.
I noticed the rust on the van and thought back to my winter days in Michigan. Salt!
This van has had a pretty easy winter life the past 15 years!
I love your videos!
Thanks! Hope you found some really good humor in this one!😂
I still need a van bad! Stuffing the Sorento with a small flat bed behind it, is Tetris!
We like the van, but we have also commented how nice it is to have the space when it's been gone...everything is a tradeoff.
And that's why I like running stereo. 99% of the cases it's mono but for the cost of one cable and amp and it comes out Mono anyway until you have a knob or in this case a slider specifically for this used case. The anti-mono knob.
Please do a detailed review of your digital mixer / lighting control rack! I'm a big fan of your compact and wireless control setup. I'd really appreciate that a lot! Greetings from the Philippines!
Here is an overview of our mixer rack th-cam.com/video/7vzkD7LHnG0/w-d-xo.html. Thanks for watching!
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Tajuk itu benar-benar bercakap untuk dirinya sendiri...kami mengecilkan kelantangan dengan ketara jadi diharapkan ia tidak menyusahkan
Love the bullnose fords
Classics….
Laptops default to HDMI to send video and audio if left to their own devices. I usually try to route and test the AVB stageboxes before leaving to go to the gig. Not always possible but saves a lot of grief and heartache when time is tight. Enjoying your videos. 🖖
It would be difficult to go back to analog, but digital has it's challenges...just more frustrating when it's simply programming improvements...e.g. how about click and drag to move channels around?
@@thesoundcouple the new User layer in UC is somewhat helpful to get things in some sort of prioritised order. As you say digital certainly is clever but getting a good workflow can sometime be quite challenging.
@@scottproaudio Exactly....the planned design or omissions in design sure impacts user experience. It would be nice if closing those gaps could be prioritized.
Best wishes on your "in 3-5 years" attempt to give it up. It becomes part of your being.
Also, in my state, you could put antique tags on that van. Put it in parades and stuff. ;- )
That may be true, but it's the plan for now and we will see where it goes. We could get classic plates for the van but never did because we didn't think it would last this long!
So, did you do all of that digital re-patching and assigning with the stage boxes just to avoid running the IEM snake?
Yep, that was the goal as their whip would have not made it. Usually it's ok, but for some reason, we had a lot of channel routing reassignments. I feel like I have a good handle on this stuff, but trying to understand why the system behaves the way it does in some cases will simply drive you crazy. Instead, I will focus the energy on being able to identify and resolve the issues.
I was wondering where you got your angled subwoofer protection boxes? (Not sure what you call them). I hate the drinks and other items placed on subs and the scrimp aren't my thing.
Thanks for noticing! Those have been a life saver. We call those our "drink sliders" and you can see how we built them here: th-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/w-d-xo.html
I found the video right after I asked the question. I'd like to make something to keep.stuff off the edge of stage as well. Liquids next to musicians pedals and the monitors are no nos
@@billr1879 We see this a lot...in fact, we end up removing these off the stage at the end of the night because we don't want to be the one's that cause it to happen, but it's their drinks! It would be nice if folks could simply pick up after themselves a bit more for the sake of all, including themselves.
Love the work. Sound and lighting company from South Africa.
Just want to find out if your subs peak in the event and how do you prevent if it does. Keep up the great work and can not wait for move videos
We monitor the system and have a pretty good feel when it's reached its limits. To prevent it, we try to scale our system to what the event needs are. After that, the system is only able get so loud and we wouldn't go beyond that. There has been a few gigs where I felt it was being pushed but our cabinets still perform great!
@The Sound Couple awesome stuff . Yes, there is no reason to push the system all the time. Keep up the excellent work . Can't wait for the next gig
Are you running the computer plugged into the mixer ?, I have a presonus rack mixer and you can't run uc surface on both the computer and run the iPad , it lets you do a bunch of ipads though
The type of device connected should not matter. We connect tablets, computers, and phones all at the same time and the mixer doesn't care....but your network needs to be able to support the devices and your mixer needs to be on the network and device permissions set to allow the desired controls.
What is the folding table that you use? Thanks
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I get it some people can be an non experience when it comes to audio gear also understand that people don't have the patience to stay and listen to a lot of pain cuz that seem like it was it was practice practice makes perfect now don't forget that but that was like practice cuz it having a crowd left already😆
We really don't know what this was about!
cool video like always
Thanks again!
I'm with ya on the longevity of vehicles if you take care of them right now I'm driving a 23 year old jeep wrangler and it runs and drives great and hardly any rust on the body and there's some rust on the frame but other than that it's fine. It's too bad that you couldn't patch into the house system not because your system sound bad it actually sounds awesome I was just thinking of saving you guys time to set your system up but maybe it was harder to get everything set up with the house system I don't know but it looks like they spent a pretty penny on that system with the line array speakers and all except for the mixer.
Thanks for your support and insights Brett!
why don't you use the system that's hanging in the room, or aren't you allowed to use it?
The system wasn't available for our use.
Yep, that is the best way to find feedback freqs, ... set up way out front of a big PA, in an extremely live room.
We think they were using the house ceiling speakers. Honestly, we were pretty checked out after this happened and we focused on the band.
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Got it ...
More tongue and cheek than anything.
Most importantly, we're all at differing points along our individual journeys, it's all good.
Prolly shoulda left well enough alone ...
Keep up the good work, despite what anyone says.
Curious. Did you coordinate your wireless with the house wireless? Do you think your stuff and the bands ears were stepping on their mic causing the drops? I noticed all your stuff was on and hot during that part of the production. Obviously he didn’t test his once yours was up.
That's a great point and definitely something we should consider. Over the years, I have felt we have taken the burden of "owning all things wireless issues". We can't own every issue, but we can certainly work on mitigating them with what's directly in our control.
@@thesoundcouple on another note. I have one of the nowsonic routers I purchased from Germany. I noticed they seem to longer exist. What is the latest firmware they released on those and do you have a copy? Thanks
@@jasonlapasinskas5302 The latest version they provided for download was Version 10.00.8. That was out for quite awhile. Contact us via e-mail if you need a copy.
@@thesoundcouple thank you!
The stare at 15:53 😂😂😂
We caught this while making the video and chuckled, but it was not funny at all when it happened....the lack of any awareness to the entire series of events is mind boggling.
Ola! sou de Campinas, São Paulo, Brasil, curto muito seus videos, poderia por favor, postar seus videos com legenda em portugues!
Nós vamos olhar para isso. Gostaríamos que o TH-cam pudesse fornecer esse serviço, mas de acordo com nossas pesquisas anteriores, não parecia tão fácil de fazer.
What is the angled cap you put on top of the sub?
Those are our wonderful “Drink Sliders”! Magically no drinks have appeared on our subs since we started using them!😄
You can see how we built them here: The SC - No More Drinks on our Subs!
th-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/w-d-xo.html
I like that table next to the sub. That’s cool. That ur wife put together.lift side of stage.on the floor.
It is listed and linked in our About section - unfortunately at this time it is unavailable through Amazon.
Hi sound couple how is the sound of presonus compared to ev's and jbl or even bose
We don't have anything to directly compare, but we have used all brands over the years and any of those brands will get the job done. For us, it was sticking with PreSonus because we needed a relatively compact cabinet that could offer the flexibility we needed. There hasn't been many situations where these haven't worked for us.
Thanks a whole lot sound couple I was thinking to go with presonus and even the bose l1 pro 16 have a blessed Easter
why not tap in to the rcf line array?
th-cam.com/video/s-n7IniCjSE/w-d-xo.html
I don't know why the "in House" soundies always HAVE to "RING OUT" the place - like it's the same system - It's the same room - the only thing that may need adjustment is the volume once in a while and very minor EQ tweaks (if needed at all) ... it somewhat annoys me when this happens.
That's a really good point!
That feedback was in no way "Ringing out" the system... It was pure and utter incompetence. I would walk out of a venue if if I had to be subjected to that treatment during load in.
You have to integrate the classic van into the mix... show it off more...
Depending on the gig... if it requires 'not so much gear' use the Ford and use the white Chevy/GMC (trailer if needed) for bigger gigs (more gear)...
Careful what you wish for! It does make at least one more appearance from this seasons set of gigs!
@@thesoundcouple HA HA... I got some big wishes/ideas... the majority of the time it works...
Is there bad blood with the house line arrays? Kinda silly to have them there and not let you use them! By the way, that van is 11 years older than me.. sorry 😁
I am guessing for private events, the client would need to pay for house AV as well, which they won't do sense the band is bringing their own production....yes, the van is old and The Sound Couple is even older! We will be back again this year. We originally couldn't do it, but they changed the date and we were open for new one!
Sad to see those moving heads on the ceiling not being used, but, as a professional audio/visual equipment renter myself, the client gets what it pays for.
Something tells me the guests at this particular party would not have been that impressed!
What you using for lights?
Our base lighting consists of Chauvet 4 Bar series (Flex, Tri, Quad, ColorPalette). We also have some from Blizzard (Stormchaser, Stiletto Glo, LB Par)
That’s a cool van should fix the rust.
Thanks! We’ve considered it, but being a 42 year old van…
Well I can't tell what model that is directly but "The WRR-840A UHF synthesized diversity tuner is a tuner for an 800 MHz band UHF wireless".
It's one thing to be old it's another thing to be illegal!
Not that I'm too concerned we were kind of scammed out of wireless microphone and TV frequencies so we could pay to use 5G Data and it was sold to us as public safety (which is in part of the 800 MHz upgrade plan).
But I'm also I ham radio operator and wireless microphone user and don't want to cause undue interference.
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I was going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt but it seems to be the turn it up until it squeals then turn it down approach.
Followed by the that's loud I'm not deaf let me do it again I didn't hear it.
Looking back now, this was all very comical....surreal when we were there.
That guy at the Soundcraft should've had his test 1 and 2 shoved up hi---- never mind...
Yep...we get it!
Octovas are always good.
We just had ours rebuilt. We love them!
Couldn't really tell the room size, but that house system seems to be a bit of over-kill.
I would agree...but it really depends on the type of events going on. I have been amazed on how loud some can be and this place hosts many different cultural events.
We use [Ford Van] and other things...
We are Ford and Chevy, but mostly Chevy!
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How long have you both been doing this for?
Bart has been doing the sound side since 1999, and I was officially put on the “payroll” 2011- but did the more “roadie” stuff with him for at least 8 years prior to 2011!
@@thesoundcouple I'm slowly teaching my wife the sound side. Just barely started on lights myself, so still very limited there.
@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup The learning is endless and lighting is an art and skill in itself.
@@thesoundcouple I am not an audio/sound person. I DJ but like watching yalls videos.
@@djaga215 Thanks....we have actually learned a lot from the DJ side of the house as well!
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The plastic racks are nice.
Yes they are...we just bought a new rack for a wireless system that is a more traditional case...for how nice it is, we can feel the extra weight.
Wouldn't it be possible to make traditional racks with PVC instead wood? I have keyboard cases with PVC, that saves some pounds.
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The room already has a high-class RCF line array, but it has fallen into the wrong hands...
Yeah....we are a bit confused on who does what and with which gear. We were not told that anyone else would be there either....there were conversations with the venue and don't understand why this was not communicated to us.
Test one Test two e poi non funziona....🤦, Invece la band ha avuto un ottimo servizio sei un grande ....👍👏👏👏
Grazie!
The preamp values do stick mate!
They do but recall the last value for that input source....which for the NSB's can be inconsistent.
No dance 😅woooo
This is a different kind of gig....we are back in just a couple of months!
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My God, the guy testing the mic, why don’t ya just stand in front of the speaker! Oh i know what I’m doing as the cones on the speakers disintegrate! Duh!
Have never experienced anything like this.
hope them av techs werent hired at whatever venue this was......
I believe that was a service provided by the venue.
That was so disrespectful to you. I feel that that was jealousy because you have up today date equipment.
I am a soundman in STLOUIS. I have been disrespected like that once before all that feedback.
Wow.....didn't even cross our minds!
Classic and Illegal to use.
Only if you are caught!
boy the other sound guy needs a lot of work.. the feedback made him look so unprofessional ..next time talk to the the people running it and see if you could do the first part instead of the other sound guy.
We thought it was worked out, but it is common when there are multiple people involved, there is nobody managing all of pieces...or they assume and try to plan, just to find out that the venues have their rules. If this was such the case, it doesn't surprise me that we weren't told any of this. It's a judgment call that needs to be made, but our experience is that if there is obviously working engagement in process that doesn't include us, don't meddle.