Breaking In the New Ebay Turbo on 20psi
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ม.ค. 2017
- Got the new turbo in for wago and it no longer smokes. Makes boost great and now we will see just how long these ebay turbos last when a heavy load is actually put on them.
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It's cool looking back and seeing how far Hayden has come in terms of welding skills.
for eBay turbos, Speedfactory used to run these on one of their 10 sec Vitara hatches. big factor to your oil leak is running too big of an oil line. -3 is recommended but if running a -4 you'll want an oil restrictor.
real street car builders! light chassis hondas with budget built setups! sick as fuck ! boosted boiz 100! fun as hell
"Just one oreo??" xD Hayden is like wtf how do you eat just one. Hahaha.
I love that rainbow effect after welding it looks really cool.
Love seeing these eBay turbos work out for people, keep it up. I'm working on piecing together a turbo d16, gonna work my way up to 30psi lol
what the real problem with the original turbo was the sharp 90 degree drain fitting would not allow the oil to properly drain thus over pressurized the center section seal weeping past the gap.
sirjizzalot think you nailed it!!
You guys should make stickers that say fuck it, since Hayden always says it
JoeysWorldTour I'd buy a fuck it sticker. shit would be mint
JoeysWorldTour should also make some stickers that say "should be good to go" and " I'm not too worried about it".
JoeysWorldTour FUuucK it...
or a sticker saying "i should run 9s and my buddie shouod run 11s"
And "It's sketchy" "It's sketching me out"
Damn now she’s awd k swapped turbo 😍😍😍 u came a long way bro keep it up
This might sound stupid but this channel and you guys are the reason why I am taking a shot at fixing my truck. I knew a decent amount about Chevy motors and then my head gasket blew. I own a 2.2l Chevy s10 96 4cyl automatic 120 k miles I wanted to save it and this channel just gave me the confidence that kids my age can do this stuff
Am i the only one who thinks kyle looks like thomas from project x lmao
Jim LMAO he does!
lmao i commented that on an earlier vid
Joseph Rikys he looks exactly like him
Jim same
Oh my god so true😂😂
Glad to see you guys making progress on the Odyssey
I love this channel! I am obsessed with Hondas (motorcycles) and turbos. I drive a 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth and I have a Focus zx3 that is begging for boost... your vids are motivation.
legit been waiting all day for y'all to upload love this channel keep up the good work
At first I wasn't sure, but I actually really like having Hayden in the videos. Plus he films pretty well. Great vid man. As always.
@boostedboiz, If your return line has any resistance the turbo will eat oil. In other words no 90 deg fittings only strait large diameter lines (mandrel bends only). This is of the most importance, also new seals ( bushings ) are around 7 dollars
For an oil feed you run a small -4an 90* facing forward toward the radiator on the center section. That is pressurized higher and can go through a 90* no problem. Te return needs to straight with no bends. Even a single 90* is sketchy. You can get "push lock" style barb fittings in -an and come right out of the bottom of the turbo with a 45* facing the oil pan.
The whole reason the seals are blown are due to the clocking of the turbo.
You can get a -4an 90* and that will go right on top of the CHRA in the feed port just like your restrictor or you can connect it right to the restrictor. VOILA! Your turbo can now be clocked right and your oil feed will not touch the manifold. I speak from experience not internet trolling
It isn't a about the feed that is pressurized so high with engine rpm, you are worried about it's way back to the pan. If you run your car too full of oil there is chance of it building up in turbo and blowing seals faster. Run your car low on oil and there is a chance you can help in the starvation of oil to the pan. I think after looking again you would need a -6an x -4an elbow and that would make the feed line Gucci. I have a 650whp dsm and have gone through a few turbos figuring out proper feeding and drainge.
Nice work mate, glad to see the channel is growing a good clip
Kyle, 4k left dude!! it's amazing!! KEEP IT UP BOIZ
i love how they upload at like 4 am likes its perfect no one else i follow does that and its the best just waiting for it to come because it always does
I still have the same eBay turbo that you bought and it has over 20,000 miles on it by now and it's still tight as a drum. I bought a second one because one of the downpipe bolts broke off in the exhaust housing and it only lasted like 1000 miles before the seals went bad and it started smoking. I took the exhaust housing off of that turbo, put it on the first turbo, and I'm still rocking it on my B series in my EK Civic coupe. It's luck of the draw brother. Sometimes you get a good one, and sometimes you get a shit one.
Boosted B Series EK can you give the link for the turbo?
good to see a new turbo installed the feeds working good it seems like aybe even better
Surprised that no one has said this - but that huge bend in the return line is likely why the seals blew. If you don't have an absolutely smooth, and almost completely vertical oil drain line with a large orifice, you will build pressure in the cartridge.
This will cause either premature wear of the seals, or if it's bad enough, it'll push through immediately. Should definitely tend to this.
I like your videos because they remind me when I was new to building tuners, just throwing shit together to get it to work. Not dissing you at all - it's all a learning experience and brings back memories of me and my buddies.
The question is will last longer now, the motor, the trans, or the turbo! Its like a game show!
That radiator looks woefully inadequate to even cool a four cylinder hell the a/c condenser on my car is twice the size of that radiator and my radiator is another twice as large as that and it's just a v6.
@@bdhale34 to be honest. They actually cool these motors substantially well especially for the size. I know from my experience at least my car doesn't go anywhere near even 210. And when it gets cold in winter I'm lucky if it even hits "proper" operating temps lol.
@@TheBeep818 My car rarely gets over 190 but it has a full sized radiator in it.
@@bdhale34 ya mine is similar dimensions as the one in video. I was just saying surprisingly for the size. They kick Ass. Haha
@@TheBeep818 Wouldn't hold up for anything besides short trips in my vehicle, volume matters also surface area matters probably as much as the volume, the lower the volume and surface area the faster the system becomes saturated and there will be a point where the output of heat from an engine will out pace the cooling area/volume of a radiator that size. of course my car has a 3.8l v6 in it which likely puts out a considerable amount more heat than a all aluminum 4 banger.
The boyz just talking normal casually cussing like we’re chillin with them. And best part was Hayden taking about doing shitty on his welding exam only to start his own badass company. We’ve come a long way boys. Cheers!
Randomly got recommended this, Jesus it feels like I watched this a year ago. Had no idea it was so long ago man.
glad I found this channel! been here since the hatch build
HUNT3R GAMING ikr me to Been here since 1300 subs which is crazy
For that oil line you could use a small block spark plug wire heat sock I got mine at napa. They just slip on over the plug and plug wire to protect against the heat from the header
I think we should all give Hayden props for stepping up and being more videos lately. I can honestly say he makes videos entertaining AF. Everyone sub to his channel! @SuicideCRX
Good guys, keep up the good work 🏁
sent yall a pakage it should be there soon
I've been running a T25 ebay turbo, no filter for 20k miles, I live in the northwest if that makes a difference and she still spooling like a champ!
2 years later.. How is it running? And what size restrictor are you running?
"I lift Oreos into my mouth", good one:)
you have no idea how long I've been waiting for a upload ...I checked atleast 3-4 times a day
Maybe it's time to get a job?
that or hes on his phone or pc at work, when he should be working.
Mr.009mm Killuminati maybe BC its Saturday?
We don't have emissions tests here in upstate ny, but you can't have a check engine light on, and like 5 of the 7 readiness codes need to be passed.
That's how they get ya from clearing codes 2 minutes before you drive in....
musta cleared em on a cold start or something and had some drive time to the inspection station, or CO isn't that strict.
when is the civic going to be put back on the road.
you need a 90° fitting into the turbo and run the feed on the dizzy side if u want to re clock the turbo straight up and down
glad u uploaded was jus abt t sleep
the oil port orientation is not about the inlet its more about the outlet. as gravity feeds the drain it needs to be able to drain easily. 30deg from vert is all you can safely allow.
Is Charlie still tryna find his flip flops? lol
Yoo, nice videos, I wanna learn how to weld aluminum and exhaust manifolds, any tips and tricks you can offer?
I like the videos found your channel only recently. I found it quite interesting you talking about the welding tests for job. A helium mix seems to be the preferred shielding gas for welding aluminium as it is more versatile. with helium you definitely see a deeper digging effect then argon. That's why it pools so quickly.
all welds need to have some sort of destructive test to ensure that welds are sound even if it is a multipass
I know this is a year later but ive had the same exact problem with my oil feed line but i came up w/ a solution so that i could clock the turbo correctly lmk if ur interested
The engine sounded better at this boost level.
You should consider keeping it in that range
that way it lasts longer and drives smoother.
It seems to be the sweet spot for the rods
and cam that you went with.
Consider lower compression ratio & higher lift
cam to address some flow restrictions. This will
safely get you running higher psi levels. But you
will likely need e85 or methanol to keep up.
Trying to up boost much more in current trim
will continue to be a big maintenance issue.
Seems the turbo oil line gravity feed restriction
would only become a wear issue if you are pushing
30psi+, the higher the boost the more oil pressure
is created and that factory single cam oil pump
sure isn't optimized for oil needs of that big turbo
at high boost. The step down in size of your fittings
prior wasn't helping the restriction either.
Part of the reason those turbo seals fail at high
boost is snapping throttle closed under psi
turbine is decelerating rapidly and air pressure
builds in the piping, bov vents so pressure drops,
turbo decels more which is ok but so is engine
so not much oil pressure then turbo is starved
intermittently and momentarily.
Whenever decel a bov turbo car on boost helps to close
throttle about half or just enough until bov vents and
then that's when you let off the rest of the way. This
will help the high rpm turbine last longer. Turbo Tricks.
just saw that you still need the wastegate gasket, on my 3 cylinder turbo diesel garden tractor I just use orange high temp silicone, its good to like 2000 degrees and ive had it hold 30psi with no issues, i use it for everything on the hot side that needs a gasket
hey just curious would you guys be able to do a video on how you guys ran your boost gauge and boost controller lines?
It's 3:38am when I'm watching this lol I should probably sleep and watch it tomorrow (later today) fuck it
I have the dna turbo on my forged 383 stroker. Use that restrictor makes a huge difference. If those turbos get to much oil they piss oil out the seals.
Mines been clocked at a 45 for a years no problem dont worry.
i just watched one your videos...y'all were in Colorado huh on i25 near Longmont and firestone... I live right there
What should the throttle percentage be while achieving target Boost once the turbo has enough spool?
Big fan
Keep up the good work
Question
You guys using Ebay turbo.
You guys seem to have good luck with it.
Do you guys daily your Ebay turbo?
I bet on of those little spark plug heat shield boots would work good where the oil feed line is close to the ex mani prob pick one up for cheap
never heard of those and I just looked some up, that could be a great idea
That is a great idea, that's exactly what they use em for too. Wrap the plug wires to keep em off the manifold.
Why dont you put a 90 fitting on the turbo feed so you have the drain perfectly vertical?
indeed but probably doesnt fit
do you guys worry about not having intake air filter? love the vids
im fighting heat and too much oil with my turbo.. same thing happened to me.. drain got a small place in it and stopped the oil smoked i fixed it and now just taking it easy till i order another one... same one you ordered.
Cool to see where he was at three years ago now he makes custom manifolds good job Haden
do you guys put air filters on any of your vehicles?
if you don't I imagine the sand particles runnin thru the turbo and engine bearings rips em a new one fairly often
@BoostedBoiz I'm trying to plan out a turbo build for my car, would love to p
pick y'alls brains about the spoolie game
Hey dude what type of valve, spring , rods, pistons, sleeve did you used on it forged or not?
Just wondering, could you run an inlet tube from the cold side to somewhere by the passenger headlight?
The issue with not clocking the turbos straight up and down I believe is it blows out your seals faster if it's not within the 15 degree area. The oil doesn't drain out properly and pushes through the seals and burns the oil. The oil feed is no concern.
some excellent info from Honeywell Garrett.....
www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/oil_water_lines
correct me of im wrong but i beleive you preform your welds in sequence insted of one on either side and then another in the middle. i think your supposed to go from one side to the other so they tie in.
Why don't you have your wideband hooked up to the Hondata?
have ya thought about using a 45 -an fitting then use a cut to length hose the same diameter of fitting into the pan. IMO it's always best to have a larger return line than feed, allows for a smoother free flow. Also would look on ebay for a longer braided line for the feed, run it from the back of the block, over to the passenger wide and over the cold side of the turbo, that way ya don't have to worry about it resting on the manifold. Fucked up thing is, the braided line will be less than the fitting.
You guys should take a stock d series car (like the beater sedan) and make a series on building it for boost, like explaining how to do everything like how you'd do it for the wagos
you guys living the life.
Hey I'm having the same turbo smoking issue on my freshly rebuilt turbonetics turbo on my ka-t 240sx. When it was rebuilt they told me to use 3/4- 1 inch return line but the biggest I could find was 5/8 so that's what I'm using. And that's what I thought was causing it was that the drain wasn't draining fast enough but I later learned the the new oil punk I put it is probably pumping too much oil so I made a oil restrictor for the feed and that seemed to help but I have oil on both sides of my turbo sadly so I think I need another rebuild now that I have the restrictor on. But no shaft play and builds full boost!
What eBay turbo is that cause if y’all running 20 and 30 pounds it’s not that bad of a turbo
Is the test he took for the ABS CERT?also on the vertical mig alum first pass you have to C-walk its for the root pass
On the garrett website, it says you can clock it to about 30 degrees without problems.
What turbo manifold is on Charlie’s car? Looks sorta like a stock manifold modified or something from what I can tell? Cool videos.
niec gauges, cant wait to see them installed and lit up.
I have that same turba good thing I can see how it does before I upgrade
What are your thoughts on throwing an air filter on the cold side of the turbo?
Wonder how long these would last .if it was tore apart and high quality bearings and seals installed rite from the box
the oil line not being straight up and down wont hurt anything... if its really off the turbo might burn some oil, but thats mostly because of the drain not the supply
I always wonder can a automatic car have a turbo kit installed on it ive heard it is but not sure?
fyi stock oil returns in general are 16 millimeter inside diameter once you get under 10mm you start restricting the oil flow and blown seals
+boosted boiz do u run iridium spark plugs? there a hot burning plug and help alot on performance there pricey but good for 100000 miles. good vids can't wait to see some pulls on the new turbo on wago and see the mr2 and the odyssey projects keep up the good work bro. just an idea on the iridium plugs I had a Honda prelude switched over to them cause it was boosted and it made a big difference in power and performance they was ngks got them at auto zone they was like 30$ a plug it was worth it though.
really like were you guys heads are right on but why not just get a longer braided line and loop it around so its not close to the hot pipes lol ?
Where the f**k is Charlie?
I'd eat the whole fucking box too, hayden. no worries.
mine did the same exact thing on my eg. why didnt you just replace the seals?
I cleared the codes on my old civic and the shop told me I had to drive the car x amount of miles because the computer was recently reset?
What ECU setup are you using on your turbo builds?
What vendor did you buy the turbo from? I know it was from ebay but which specific vendor.
@boostedboiz what turbo did you use? Is it a T04E?
How far you guys out from PFI? I'm movin to fort Carson in a couple months. I see a couple videos ago they had a neon srt in there how did that turn out, need to get mine better tuned.
Where are yall located if u dont mind me asking? What engine is in the 1st car?
The turbo is clocked funny, the wastegate is in a terrible place, the oil line to the turbo is crazy close to the exhaust manifold, the car is hacked up, some of the wielding is a little questionable, but it still goes like a bat out of hell. Nice.
what motor should he get for his Honda? a Gallo 12 or Gallo 24?
Go full 3 inch on the piping, or at least make the cold side 3 inch. Keep up the good work man, love your videos!
Maybe if your oil feed was closer to vertical rater than 30-40deg then your oil could drain out and not weep past the compressor and turbines seals that have their seals clocked with ring gap set to the top as in towards the oil feed.
When clocked that badly you will fail sooner rather than later. Run a longer line and put a banjo fitting on the inlet and clock it correctly.
New turbo! new boost
Damn, this makes me happy. I've rigged some pretty stupid looking fittings but the more simple you can design your "ghetto" rig the more likely it'll actually hold together and work.
about your turbo oil feed and drain ,why didnt you turn your turbo so the compressor side is on the right when facing your engine
Dude i wanna ask you somethin. Where i should drill holes for the oil feed and return lines?
bro nice video bro ... Hmu what kind of turbo can I put on my 20003 BMW 325I ??
When are you going to start building the hatch kyle? an when do you guys plan on boosting the manvan??
within 10 seconds you said "shaft play " and "took a shit on me" LOL