@motherflerkentannhauser8152 good eye; I amalgamated it really since the update was a bit subtle. I was talking more about the form Factor really of tablet gaming.
I have the ACRNM version with a 4070, paired with the XG Mobile 4090, and it’s become my ultimate desktop replacement. I use it for everything: gaming (on both Windows and Linux), local AI tasks, development, and even as a tablet during lunch breaks. The workflow this machine offers is unbeatable. One standout feature is that, unlike other gaming laptops with similar specs, the keyboard stays cool! You can take it to work as your main device, use it for productivity, stream Netflix during breaks, and then come home, connect it to the XG Mobile with an external monitor, and instantly have a dual-monitor setup with all your peripherals ready to go!
That’s so sick! I guess the hard pill to swallow is the cost of the external GPU but I agree that it would be a great desktop replacement. Thanks for the great feedback and thoughts.
@amarchouhan3181 congratulations. Yes, I can confirm this with certainty that I've taken care of mine and it's still kicking. It's a tablet, very very fragile so treat it like one. Let me know how it goes!
I've been using the Z13 as my gaming laptop for this entire year and it's an amazing device. I actually don't even use it as a laptop and just carry it as a tablet with a controller.
Am I the only one that finds tablets worse for portability? Like they are way less comfortable to use if you're lounging in a chair etc you have to hold them up or awkwardly try to prop them up at the right angle. Laptop just sits on your lap or whatever and the screen sticks up at a better hight.
Here is what you need to know: Both the Z13 and X13 are simply too heavy to use as a tablet, therefore u are better of buying something else. Such as the G14. Z13 battery life is too low. You can go for X13 if you get a good deal but try to get the nebula display. 1080p, even on a 13/14" device is bad, despite what youtubers will make you believe. The screen matters most as that is what you see.
i use my X13 as a tablet. i also use my Legion Go (without controllers) as my smaller tablet. part of my justification for buying them while already having so many devices is the ability to use them as tablets.
I have used the older z13 with the 3050 for my DJ laptop for over 2 years, and it has worked great and flawlessly for that. I just replaced it with a 2024 G14 with the 4070. The z13 is now my backup DJ laptop. And, I also use a Maschine Mk3 for live performance finger drumming when I D J. 😁
Wow, we probably had the same setups! What gear do you use for DJing? I used to have a Serato setup with Stanton 150s. Could never get into the CD turntables but when Serato Live came out, it changed everything!
@omrrex9994 I have used it with an Odysee stand in tablet mode. I had the onscreen track pad always up in the bottom right corner. And, there's a Taskbar shortcut for the onscreen keyboard if you need to search for something. Having it lay down in tablet mode angled towards you makes for a pretty cool esthetic.
how the z13 perform in DJing? im on an mac. im trying to switch to Windows platform. Mac is getting expensive... 😁😁 im planning to get a used Z13. thanks.
I wanted one of these so bad, but settled for a legion go and couldnt be happier. Have a diy egpu setup with a 3050ti plugged into the tv and its exactly what i need. Desktop pc for my AAA games and dnd night. Legion go for on the go and couch gaming.
@@codidittmar4131 very good choice! I’m a huuuuge fan of the legion go and I still can’t find something better in a handheld format. I might try the Asus ROG Ally X soon but the Go’s trackpad is such a big deal for me!
Watch out, people. I bought one in Canada. I brought it to Brazil, where I live. This thing overheats on simple tasks like Excel spreadsheets and opening some tabs in Chrome and FREEZES (Blue screen of death). Asus technical assistance abandoned my case simply because I did not buy the product in Brazil. I paid for an expensive product that doesn't work.
No issues with mine. But heat is likely since it’s a thin device. Make sure you don’t block the ports when you’re using it in bed and stuff. Battery is subjective but I get around 5-6 hours on mine. Thanks for the view!
Sorry hear your experience, you might want to watch Gamer Nexus video about their war against Asus warranty claims, he listed an email from their executives in which they promised to honor warranties, give it a shot either by contacting gamer Nexus or the email listed on his video, additionally this is why even though other laptops overperforms the surface pro 9 I had nothing but good experiences with them, and take in mind that I experienced the very same situation, I purchased a surface pro 9 in the USA then moved back to Mexico and they provided me warranty services in Mexico, better than that they sent me a new pen that was out of warranty for free, now that's after sales service excellence, just for this I'm a surface pro user untill death, sry for the wall text and I hope this helps people under this issue.
Excellent video! All great, but you're reviewing a model that's almost 3 years old. It would be nice to see a review of the newer model (2023), which is better in all parameters!
I imagine under load it gets loud and starts to throttle. Powerhouses in a small form factor like this should ditch trying to be thin and make it chunky like a half an inch more . Give some breathing room .
I finally got rid of this misunderstanding. By the way, I had an Asus Flow 12 with an Intel 12th generation i9 processor. At first, everything was going well and it was completely fine until the problems started. After six months, the battery failed. After another six months, the keyboard stopped working. After the next six months, it just turned off, and my motherboard needed to be replaced. In short, I took my laptop to the service center more frequently than my Turbo VAG.
This is a weird request, but can you try Proart PX13 as well. Most of the youtubers that try it mostly focused on editing applications (obviously) but i want to see if it can carry gaming, coding and such since i want to have that in the future
I own this. Bought last year. It's a beast in small size. But the biggest problem is the keyboard gets unresponsive and didn't last for 6 months. Then i had to use a wireless keyboard because there is no way i could buy a replacement from any store.
@@KitchenDwelIer I connect it to my cell phone all the time when I would take it with me. Faced no issues at all with an iPhone and Samsung hotspot device.
the design is pretty cool, but the cpu really doesnt make any sense, too much unnecessary power for a laptop/tablet that light (too much for the 4050 too).
I don’t think it is too much power. The 4050 laptop version outperforms the 2070 desktop version with the cpu being comparable to the 9700k. If you put two and two together in real life applications it’s a pretty good combination.
@@jamiesucks7994 No it's not, the form factor of this laptop/tablet is supposed to have good battery life; Otherwise, it would be better to buy a traditional laptop with the same CPU but a better GPU at a cheaper price. You buy this laptop to use wherever and whenever, for convenience, it is not made to be used plugged in and static all day, again, if that were the case you would buy a normal laptop with better specs at a better price. because the battery life and efficiency of this CPU are beyond terrible. (gpu is fine)
It's nice but doesn't come close to the polished experience on a steam deck/ally streamed to an ipad display. If you're looking to mostly do gaming please try out handhelds if you haven't already, once you do there's just no going back.
I would 1000% buy this if it had an oculink port. I hate the proprietary shiz. Edit: Before anyone says, "but it has TB4": Oculink is way better than TB4.
The Minisforum seems to be a great choice but I do like the gaming aesthetics of the ROG. I haven't personally tried the v3 but it does seem like a great alternative for the Flow Z13.
If this used a Ryzen 7 and not an i9...As well as the option to add 32gb of RAM on the lower end models and not just the top end...I'd highly consider.
I wonder how the new Lunar lake will be for music production? I think that’ll be a big change. For me I stick with Apple M series because you still can’t beat it for its efficiency and you never have to deal with drivers. I’m biased because I use Logic and that thing is getting pretty crazy. The M4 series should have the most powerful laptop chip by far but will be expensive.
Do you know if it is compatible with a pencil? I have a Surface pro 6 and I only use it to draw. I have a gaming PC and sometimes I feel like playing in bed and I was thinking about upgrading.
Hey, thanks for the question. Yeah it is compatible with a regular touch capacitive pen OR the ASUS Tablet Pen. I have not tried it with a proprietary pen like a Microsoft Surface one but the apple pencil definitely doesnt work.
My experience with the 2023 model (QHD+, 165 Hz, 4050, 13900H): The design is amazing. Asus thought of everything. What's lacking is the software. Windows is still terrible to be used as on a tablet. Many times it freezes or fails to turn on (even BSOD) when switching modes. And Asus and Nvidia are fighting for the control over the GPU. If you're in "auto select" mode in Nvidia's settings, Asus still cannot turn off the dGPU when you unplug unless you specifically chose "optimus" mode. And even then, it often still fails to turn it off because many windows apps are still using the dGPU.
yikes, that sucks. I usually uninstall any bloatware from my new gaming devices to ensure I maximize that snapiness. Unfortunately the OS is still a limiting factor but as technology advances, these limitations become less and less where we are now just eyeballing those small FPS drops lol
@@paolocee then how do you use "advanced optimus"? do you just let the dGPU run while on battery? and let the display signal buffer thru the iGPU when you game plugged in?
Have anyone got issue yet my freeze time to time so you can't power it off you just have to let the power drain in order to reset power back up so I return my thar same week.
@paolocee I try holding down the power button it still didn't shut down or respond to it too...that was the 1st thing I did when it happen I hold it for so long waiting for it to shut down too ...it didn't happen
@@paolocee Thanks for the quick reply! It'd be nice if it shipped with an official stylus, but if there are pen options to buy for it I'll be plenty happy
How exactly did you manage to get 7 hours of webbrowsing with this device? I own the 4060 version and I can't even watch a movie without it dying within 2 hours.. Not to mention gaming. And believe me I tried every battery save mode.
It needs better cooling and Oled screen. The worse about this tablet is the screen. I dont know about anyone who would rate this tablet so highly, i gane with eyes inches away from the screen, any light bleeds and uneven back lit areas greatly bother me especially after a couple hours.
Hello from Brazil Paolo !!!! I have a Zephyrus G14 2024 identical to yours with RTX 4060, where I live they don't sell high quality laptops like this, especially these gaming lines from Asus, I really like it and I don't have much to complain about, although today I'm a dad gamer ... I play a lot lying down in bed and I have to juggle things so that the g14 doesn't get too hot, I'm going to the USA on the 21st, I'm seriously thinking about buying the z13 because I think I could play with it on my lap next to the babies in the bed, or anywhere because from what I saw in the video it doesn't have air vents underneath, can you give me your opinion on whether this would be a waste of money? a versão que eu compraria seria a com a rtx 4060
Hey Italo! Sorry for the late reply! I hope you had the chance to consider getting one because I really love mine. Yes it does get very hot in bed but only when playing HEAVY AAA GAMES! For normal use or with lower end games, you’re fine in bed. Browsing and watching videos are 100% fine. If you do a bit more research, undervolting can also be a solution.
It’s the Aohi Starship battery with 40,000mah capacity and the Aohi USB c cable which shows the wattage it’s pumping out when charging devices. Check out my recent review of the “Aohi Magflash” which features these cables and battery.
@@paolocee actually it is low. It has to be 32gb, even for gaming. Windows 11 takes 8gb and some games consumes huge memory. If you run browsers and discord you r already out of memory. I want this device but this memory limitation does not fit me.
How is 1.1kg portable? How much RAM does it have? No benchmark no heat test? This is not a review this is paid commercial. Review your reviewers folks!
Depends on the situation I’m afraid. I have a handheld that I strictly set up as a good handheld device, meaning emulation, light steam games etc. the ROG Ally X will be similar; but if you want to do productivity as well, the Z13 is a better choice; bigger screen, keyboard…
yeah it was a pain. if you meant how to turn it on from the box, you need to remove the battery cover that stuck on the battery itself. In terms of turning it on when you already have it paired, I find that holding the pen down on screen tends to turn it on pretty well. Hope it works out for you 🤞
I agree for the most part. Plus, in a tablet form, thermal will also affect performance. Best to adjust expectations when knowing the physical limitations of this device
@@paolocee bruh, what do you mean "you can replace it unlike a traditional keyboard"? I have replaced factory keyboards for all my laptops by myself before. As for FlowZ13, there is an entire subreddit full of FlowZ13's keyboard not usable unless it is flat on a surface. Look it up dude. I don't disrespect you or ASUS or Flow Z13. But I will never buy ASUS products now. I just wanna let everyone know that Flow Z13's replacement keyboard is around USD200-300 even on Aliexpress. Therefore, you guys better hang-on to and/or extend your warranty like I did, though WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO. And fun fact, ASUS service centre reformats your whole window setup, just because "they can replace the keyboard unlike a traditional one". Have fun out there and enjoy it while you can!
This video comes a little bit late, this Rog Flow z13 was released 1 year and a half ago and this tablet/laptop seems very old and not worthy of what it offers. Nevertheless, I don't think it is a bad product, quite the opposite, the concept of Z13 is great but I don't know why Asus abandoned this product, I expect they release a newer version for 2025, but it should have a better CPU with E-cores, maybe ryzen AI HX370 to enhance the battery duration, with a better GPU like 4060 for standard units, (not use the 4050 anymore) and change their proprietary e-gpu connector to oculink or put 2 thunderbolt 4 at least (or thunderbolt 5?), OLED panel and better battery.
I got the RTX 4060 version a month or so ago, and it's very fast and handles all I throw at it for CAD and graphic design. It will rarely be used for gaming. Only downside is you cannot upgrade the 16 GB RAM and it occasionally freezes. Possibly related, as I type this with Autodesk Fusion, Adobe Illustrator and Microsoft Edge open (with 5 tabs), 85% of RAM is used, so already sailing close to the wind. (CAD is very memory intensive.) I think ASUS should release a new model with 32 GB RAM option, OLED display, ditch the eGPU port, move the Thunderbolt 4 port that's behind a rubber flap to next to the other TB4 port, see if they can knock a few mm off the thickness, offer a 5G (sim card) option, and maybe make the screen taller, like the Surface Pro series, although I appreciate a 16:9 display is suited to gaming, the target market for this machine. Oh, and allow the keyboard to connect with Bluetooth, like the new Surface Pro keyboard.
Yeah: I never play AAA games on battery. But if it’s longevity you’re talking about; we are in an age where tablets and devices are now harder to update your battery… unfortunately, the thinner the device; the harder it’ll be. We live in a disposable age which angers me!
3 hours of gaming, yeah. that i9 is a whopper for a tablet. Regular use is around 6-8 hours so definitely on the lower end for battery in this form factor.
Awesome design overpriced and underperforming. It is tick so i don't see why it could not house an RTX 4070 110w. For its price it should because external card costs as much as the base device.
taking a microscope to a screenshot I can see a flaw on the plastic that only could be seen on a microscope. Therefore. Asus will probably deny any warranty on that thing. (if you don't know the joke im making here. go look at gamers nexus' rog ally warranty video. the larger message is after what they put gamers nexus through. I just can't trust Asus with any purchase going forward. they aren't trustworthy.
I know and don’t disagree. When doing these videos, asus said that their service side is definitely taking a hit with these bad PR so they definitely need to fix that. However on the front end, where all the products are made, Asus is really trying hard to be at the forefront. Sadly there’s always two sides….
Battery will be useless within 2 weeks of gaming, hence becoming and expensive laptop that goes nowhere lol. Until they get these batteries to last longer, gaming on the go is useless. Will always need a power source after 20 min.
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Don't know where you got this model. Because some specs are from the 2022 edition and some are 2023.
@motherflerkentannhauser8152 good eye; I amalgamated it really since the update was a bit subtle. I was talking more about the form
Factor really of tablet gaming.
None of the above, handhelds like steam deck!
Can any pencil work?
I have the ACRNM version with a 4070, paired with the XG Mobile 4090, and it’s become my ultimate desktop replacement. I use it for everything: gaming (on both Windows and Linux), local AI tasks, development, and even as a tablet during lunch breaks. The workflow this machine offers is unbeatable. One standout feature is that, unlike other gaming laptops with similar specs, the keyboard stays cool! You can take it to work as your main device, use it for productivity, stream Netflix during breaks, and then come home, connect it to the XG Mobile with an external monitor, and instantly have a dual-monitor setup with all your peripherals ready to go!
That’s so sick! I guess the hard pill to swallow is the cost of the external GPU but I agree that it would be a great desktop replacement. Thanks for the great feedback and thoughts.
holy crapola an almost 2 grand for an external mobile gpu i never knew this existed, a 4090 mobile. But jeez a loo is all i have left to say lmao
@@Styphoryte yup. I myself didn't get the egpu so I kept it simple with games that can actually work on this small form factor.
I have the limited edition model. ACRNM RMT02. Absolutely love it. Nothing comes close. Worth the money. Pricey as heck!
Wow, share it so we can comment!
I can't find it anywhere
@rurkuz hard to find for sure. I found the one lone piece at my local Best Buy. Check Amazon from time to time.
I’m looking forward to getting one, does it last long for normal use-case?
@amarchouhan3181 congratulations. Yes, I can confirm this with certainty that I've taken care of mine and it's still kicking. It's a tablet, very very fragile so treat it like one. Let me know how it goes!
The design from the back makes me feel like it came from the designs of the Gundam fighters. It always reminds me of the anime Gundam Wings.
It’s so good. Magnesium frame and nice thick solid build. Love it!
I've been using the Z13 as my gaming laptop for this entire year and it's an amazing device. I actually don't even use it as a laptop and just carry it as a tablet with a controller.
Exactly. You're enjoying it the way it was designed. Have fun!
Am I the only one that finds tablets worse for portability? Like they are way less comfortable to use if you're lounging in a chair etc you have to hold them up or awkwardly try to prop them up at the right angle. Laptop just sits on your lap or whatever and the screen sticks up at a better hight.
You're not wrong and I agree. With the G14 now in my portfolio, I feel tablets have serious competition. I honestly prefer laptops myself.
Here is what you need to know:
Both the Z13 and X13 are simply too heavy to use as a tablet, therefore u are better of buying something else. Such as the G14. Z13 battery life is too low. You can go for X13 if you get a good deal but try to get the nebula display. 1080p, even on a 13/14" device is bad, despite what youtubers will make you believe. The screen matters most as that is what you see.
Well said! 👏👏👏
i use my X13 as a tablet. i also use my Legion Go (without controllers) as my smaller tablet. part of my justification for buying them while already having so many devices is the ability to use them as tablets.
@AugustusMcMillan same here ✌️
How can you use x13 as a tablet if the keyboard us undetachable part of it
@@eitanskital7735just... Flip it??
I have used the older z13 with the 3050 for my DJ laptop for over 2 years, and it has worked great and flawlessly for that. I just replaced it with a 2024 G14 with the 4070. The z13 is now my backup DJ laptop. And, I also use a Maschine Mk3 for live performance finger drumming when I D J. 😁
Wow, we probably had the same setups! What gear do you use for DJing? I used to have a Serato setup with Stanton 150s. Could never get into the CD turntables but when Serato Live came out, it changed everything!
@@paolocee I currently use a Rane 72 and a pair of Rane 12s at home and have a Rev7 for gigs. Used a Rane One for gigs prior to that. 🙂
It’s awesome that you use it for djing. What do you use for a stand ? I have been looking for options that work with our setup
@omrrex9994 I have used it with an Odysee stand in tablet mode. I had the onscreen track pad always up in the bottom right corner. And, there's a Taskbar shortcut for the onscreen keyboard if you need to search for something. Having it lay down in tablet mode angled towards you makes for a pretty cool esthetic.
how the z13 perform in DJing? im on an mac. im trying to switch to Windows platform. Mac is getting expensive... 😁😁 im planning to get a used Z13. thanks.
I wanted one of these so bad, but settled for a legion go and couldnt be happier.
Have a diy egpu setup with a 3050ti plugged into the tv and its exactly what i need. Desktop pc for my AAA games and dnd night. Legion go for on the go and couch gaming.
@@codidittmar4131 very good choice! I’m a huuuuge fan of the legion go and I still can’t find something better in a handheld format. I might try the Asus ROG Ally X soon but the Go’s trackpad is such a big deal for me!
Wow. extremely well done video. Loved it.
Audio/video/review = 10/10/10
Thank you! I'm glad you liked the video and found it helpful!
You are a machine user....I'm sold!
It’s awesome! Hope you love it!
Finally a good notebook that turns into a descent tablet... this is incredible.
Thank you. It's a great device
Watch out, people. I bought one in Canada. I brought it to Brazil, where I live. This thing overheats on simple tasks like Excel spreadsheets and opening some tabs in Chrome and FREEZES (Blue screen of death). Asus technical assistance abandoned my case simply because I did not buy the product in Brazil. I paid for an expensive product that doesn't work.
Battery sucks also
No issues with mine. But heat is likely since it’s a thin device. Make sure you don’t block the ports when you’re using it in bed and stuff. Battery is subjective but I get around 5-6 hours on mine. Thanks for the view!
Sorry hear your experience, you might want to watch Gamer Nexus video about their war against Asus warranty claims, he listed an email from their executives in which they promised to honor warranties, give it a shot either by contacting gamer Nexus or the email listed on his video, additionally this is why even though other laptops overperforms the surface pro 9 I had nothing but good experiences with them, and take in mind that I experienced the very same situation, I purchased a surface pro 9 in the USA then moved back to Mexico and they provided me warranty services in Mexico, better than that they sent me a new pen that was out of warranty for free, now that's after sales service excellence, just for this I'm a surface pro user untill death, sry for the wall text and I hope this helps people under this issue.
@adan2343 ☝️👌👍
@adan2343 nicely added, thanks for the heads up!
Love the intro / outro music 💃 great overview!
Oléeeeeeeerr
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What's the intro song called please?
That music earned you a subscriber 😁
💃🕺thank you!
@@paolocee what's the intro song?
Excellent video! All great, but you're reviewing a model that's almost 3 years old. It would be nice to see a review of the newer model (2023), which is better in all parameters!
Thanks for the feedback! I'll try to get my hands on a newer model to make that happen.
I imagine under load it gets loud and starts to throttle. Powerhouses in a small form factor like this should ditch trying to be thin and make it chunky like a half an inch more . Give some breathing room .
Agree 👍
Yeah lemme subscribe I'm already digging the vibes 🤙🏿
Tunes make a huge effect on a vid. You’re a man of culture 🫡
I finally got rid of this misunderstanding. By the way, I had an Asus Flow 12 with an Intel 12th generation i9 processor. At first, everything was going well and it was completely fine until the problems started. After six months, the battery failed. After another six months, the keyboard stopped working. After the next six months, it just turned off, and my motherboard needed to be replaced. In short, I took my laptop to the service center more frequently than my Turbo VAG.
Cool!
This is a weird request, but can you try Proart PX13 as well. Most of the youtubers that try it mostly focused on editing applications (obviously) but i want to see if it can carry gaming, coding and such since i want to have that in the future
Wow, funny coincidence; Asus is sending over some laptops for me to review and i believe one of them was the PX series laptop. Stay Tuned!
I own this. Bought last year. It's a beast in small size. But the biggest problem is the keyboard gets unresponsive and didn't last for 6 months. Then i had to use a wireless keyboard because there is no way i could buy a replacement from any store.
Maybe try using alcohol swabs and cleaning the gold connectors between the keyboard and tablet. Sometimes grime can cut off the connection.
I thought I loved my g14 too. Until recently when it just starts shutting down for no reason. It's not running hot or anything.
Uhoh, that’s not good. Bring it back to where you got it from and see if they can help. Hoping asus stepped up their service game 🤞
I have the z13-Acrynm and love it.
Amazing! Glad to see some tablet gamers here!
if a had money and need a laptop that should be my laptop
It’s quite good imho
Could you possibly test this on let’s say a hotspot? I would use this on the go and I want to see if it’s good
@@KitchenDwelIer I connect it to my cell phone all the time when I would take it with me. Faced no issues at all with an iPhone and Samsung hotspot device.
the design is pretty cool, but the cpu really doesnt make any sense, too much unnecessary power for a laptop/tablet that light (too much for the 4050 too).
Agree
I don’t think it is too much power. The 4050 laptop version outperforms the 2070 desktop version with the cpu being comparable to the 9700k. If you put two and two together in real life applications it’s a pretty good combination.
@@jamiesucks7994
No it's not, the form factor of this laptop/tablet is supposed to have good battery life; Otherwise, it would be better to buy a traditional laptop with the same CPU but a better GPU at a cheaper price.
You buy this laptop to use wherever and whenever, for convenience, it is not made to be used plugged in and static all day, again, if that were the case you would buy a normal laptop with better specs at a better price.
because the battery life and efficiency of this CPU are beyond terrible. (gpu is fine)
Dang, been lugging a velka 3 around (solo gamedev, 7900+4060) wonder if this would be enough to handle unreal and houdini...
@SequentialSnep 😬😬😬 probably a similar speccd machine like an i7/i9 with 4060
i genuinely sure that rog flow been using 7nm exclusively since like release 2020 ish, up until now, that core ultra mobile been released
Yeah
Nice review....but what is intro music man it is amazing
Sorry for the late reply! Here it is: th-cam.com/video/ljD0C-2hfiY/w-d-xo.html
@@paolocee thank you so much man
It's nice but doesn't come close to the polished experience on a steam deck/ally streamed to an ipad display. If you're looking to mostly do gaming please try out handhelds if you haven't already, once you do there's just no going back.
Will give it a try! 👌
I would 1000% buy this if it had an oculink port. I hate the proprietary shiz.
Edit: Before anyone says, "but it has TB4": Oculink is way better than TB4.
I can respect that 🫡
i hope next version is have amd ryzen + more ram + vrr + oled
That’d be sick. The Ryzens do get hot though so I don’t mind it being the same thickness. Imagine my G14 but tablet and OLED 🤤
There's a higher spec limited version that came out last year. RMT02 ACRNM. I have it and I love it.
@@dqkneely9803 Oh sweet! Glad you're lovin' it!
G14 you're showing looks to be a 2024 model.. it definitely didn't have a 4900HS (which was from 2020). I think you meant to say it has a 8945hs?
Holy you’re right! Sorry about that. Wow; I guess I was super tired
Bro the powerbank what model?
Hey there, it's the Aohi Starship. Insane 40,000mah powerbank
@@paolocee 100w or 65w ?
@Paolo Cee which i choose minisforum v3 or rog flow? thanks
The Minisforum seems to be a great choice but I do like the gaming aesthetics of the ROG. I haven't personally tried the v3 but it does seem like a great alternative for the Flow Z13.
@@paolocee thanks
that was a cool portrait mode keyboard
@@DJ_Blaker thanks! It’s pretty cool how the perspective changes just by rotating it 90 degrees.
Is the 3050 variant good?
can you play nice with VR like Steam VR and Meta Quest 3 without any further ext. GPU just this rig?? ty
Yes, but depends on the game. Flight simulator is very cpu intensive so it was good on this device
Just me? He sounds like Guga.
Haha! Which Guga? I’m curious now
If this used a Ryzen 7 and not an i9...As well as the option to add 32gb of RAM on the lower end models and not just the top end...I'd highly consider.
Be careful what you with for lol
I wonder if the new G16 amd interests you
Oh yeah! I’m definitely interested. I’m going to be reviewing the G16 and the P16 very soon! Stay tuned!
@@paolocee wow
what is that powerbank you showed in the video ?
Hey, thanks for the question! Check it out here from one of my favourite accessory guys "Aohi" - th-cam.com/video/lyU8FhPAez4/w-d-xo.html
A lot of people are sleeping on this product
The 2023 model that is*
Yeah I know right?
Is there a version with AMD APU inside because I don't need discrete GPU? That would be great for music production. ATM, Intel is unreliable for me.
There's a snapdragon version that I'll be reviewing once I get it. Its oart of the ProArt series. Stay tuned!
I wonder how the new Lunar lake will be for music production? I think that’ll be a big change.
For me I stick with Apple M series because you still can’t beat it for its efficiency and you never have to deal with drivers. I’m biased because I use Logic and that thing is getting pretty crazy.
The M4 series should have the most powerful laptop chip by far but will be expensive.
Bro, can u find and review a pair for display extension?
Hey thanks, what do you mean exactly and I can probably take a look
I love this model or Asus rog 🎉
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Wonder how the innards stand up to my new onexplayer 1x
Your onexplayer is probably better and more efficient probably 😂
Do you know if it is compatible with a pencil? I have a Surface pro 6 and I only use it to draw. I have a gaming PC and sometimes I feel like playing in bed and I was thinking about upgrading.
Hey, thanks for the question. Yeah it is compatible with a regular touch capacitive pen OR the ASUS Tablet Pen. I have not tried it with a proprietary pen like a Microsoft Surface one but the apple pencil definitely doesnt work.
My experience with the 2023 model (QHD+, 165 Hz, 4050, 13900H): The design is amazing. Asus thought of everything. What's lacking is the software. Windows is still terrible to be used as on a tablet. Many times it freezes or fails to turn on (even BSOD) when switching modes. And Asus and Nvidia are fighting for the control over the GPU. If you're in "auto select" mode in Nvidia's settings, Asus still cannot turn off the dGPU when you unplug unless you specifically chose "optimus" mode. And even then, it often still fails to turn it off because many windows apps are still using the dGPU.
yikes, that sucks. I usually uninstall any bloatware from my new gaming devices to ensure I maximize that snapiness. Unfortunately the OS is still a limiting factor but as technology advances, these limitations become less and less where we are now just eyeballing those small FPS drops lol
@@paolocee then how do you use "advanced optimus"? do you just let the dGPU run while on battery? and let the display signal buffer thru the iGPU when you game plugged in?
@@motherflerkentannhauser8152 Google “ghelper asus rog”. I use this to manage everything on my GPU
Have anyone got issue yet my freeze time to time so you can't power it off you just have to let the power drain in order to reset power back up so I return my thar same week.
Haven't had that but it sounded like you needed a hard reset process done.
Next time this happens, just hold the power button till it turns off.
@paolocee I try holding down the power button it still didn't shut down or respond to it too...that was the 1st thing I did when it happen I hold it for so long waiting for it to shut down too ...it didn't happen
the song reminds me of tropico
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Can you test elden ring and black myth wukong and let me know how it goes.
Sorry for the late reply; I’ll do a test in the future with Black Myth on the new ryzen chips. Stay tuned
Does it come with a pen? I've been thinking about getting a Z tablet to replace my gaming laptop and drawing tablet when I'm on long trips
Unfortunately no, I wish I got the pen to be honest. That would've been cool.
@@paolocee Thanks for the quick reply! It'd be nice if it shipped with an official stylus, but if there are pen options to buy for it I'll be plenty happy
@RTDice11 hey no worries! They're not that badly priced I think. Best of luck!
This thing needs an update
Yeah, got so much potential. I didn’t mention price but that may be a big reason it’s on the lower priority list.
handheld pc, is the new portable nowadays
@@someone-jh6hw Yes and No. Ive got both types and sometimes you wanna push it a bit more and handhelds aren't there yet.
@someone-jh6hw Until they are able to get Nintendo Switch size with decent performance then no.
Well, moores law will be over by around 2031, so idk if it ever will be 'there' unfortunately. 🤷🏽♂️@@threeequalsd4865
How exactly did you manage to get 7 hours of webbrowsing with this device? I own the 4060 version and I can't even watch a movie without it dying within 2 hours..
Not to mention gaming. And believe me I tried every battery save mode.
Not sure. I was on the plane with the lowest brightness and with G Helper, the lowest eco saving mode.
Could anyone recommend an sd card for this want more storage
This is what I use. Check out the SanDisk Extreme out for max read and write speeds: amzn.to/3BNBtdj
It needs better cooling and Oled screen. The worse about this tablet is the screen. I dont know about anyone who would rate this tablet so highly, i gane with eyes inches away from the screen, any light bleeds and uneven back lit areas greatly bother me especially after a couple hours.
Thanks for the feedback, I hear you on the screen! The lighting is definitely not the best.
price tag is 2k++ for rtx 4060, as much as I love gaming and able to buy it in a heartbeat, I still can't justify buying this 😂
@@leewalker23 can't disagree that this is a pricey item 😭
I feel like the review is incomplete without actually having and using the E-GPU that goes with it...
Nah, I don’t want to lug around an egpu as it defeats the purpose of portability. Just my two cents
what was that powerbank you were using?
The Aohi Starship - check out the review here th-cam.com/video/lyU8FhPAez4/w-d-xo.html
Hello from Brazil Paolo !!!! I have a Zephyrus G14 2024 identical to yours with RTX 4060, where I live they don't sell high quality laptops like this, especially these gaming lines from Asus, I really like it and I don't have much to complain about, although today I'm a dad gamer ... I play a lot lying down in bed and I have to juggle things so that the g14 doesn't get too hot, I'm going to the USA on the 21st, I'm seriously thinking about buying the z13 because I think I could play with it on my lap next to the babies in the bed, or anywhere because from what I saw in the video it doesn't have air vents underneath, can you give me your opinion on whether this would be a waste of money? a versão que eu compraria seria a com a rtx 4060
Hey Italo! Sorry for the late reply! I hope you had the chance to consider getting one because I really love mine. Yes it does get very hot in bed but only when playing HEAVY AAA GAMES! For normal use or with lower end games, you’re fine in bed. Browsing and watching videos are 100% fine.
If you do a bit more research, undervolting can also be a solution.
what is the portable battery and cable ?
It’s the Aohi Starship battery with 40,000mah capacity and the Aohi USB c cable which shows the wattage it’s pumping out when charging devices. Check out my recent review of the “Aohi Magflash” which features these cables and battery.
@@paolocee ty!
slim + intel: hell no
Yeah I know. But check out my G14, it’s hella hot in a slim profile too
Does it have 16gb ram?
Yes it does. Most 'performance' based devices have at least 16GB nowadays. thanks for the question
@@paolocee actually it is low. It has to be 32gb, even for gaming. Windows 11 takes 8gb and some games consumes huge memory. If you run browsers and discord you r already out of memory. I want this device but this memory limitation does not fit me.
it would be much nicer if the next version got a wierless keyboard. That would stand out more compare a 2in1 laptop
You can prop it up in tablet mode and connect any Bluetooth keyboard you wish.
@@paolocee i know, but to have this Features build in like the "rog Mothership" ore the Aftermarket one for the surface line up.
would be nice
How is 1.1kg portable? How much RAM does it have? No benchmark no heat test? This is not a review this is paid commercial. Review your reviewers folks!
lol, I wish it was a paid commercial. 😂 but thanks for the view, mate.
Doesnt the red corner model have a 3050? Its the 2022 model.
The 2023 model with black corner tab has the 4050.
Correct! I was simply talking about the Z Flow in general since the upgrades were mostly internal.
If they could just make this again with amd version...
They just might 👀
Yo..What's that jam at the begining?
Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/ljD0C-2hfiY/w-d-xo.html
ROG Z13 vs ROG Ally X. Which is better?
Depends on the situation I’m afraid. I have a handheld that I strictly set up as a good handheld device, meaning emulation, light steam games etc. the ROG Ally X will be similar; but if you want to do productivity as well, the Z13 is a better choice; bigger screen, keyboard…
Is that the asus egpu plug?
Correct. Specifically the bottom one
how do i turn on the pen... sheesh
yeah it was a pain. if you meant how to turn it on from the box, you need to remove the battery cover that stuck on the battery itself. In terms of turning it on when you already have it paired, I find that holding the pen down on screen tends to turn it on pretty well. Hope it works out for you 🤞
The gtx 4050 in laptops are not true. They perform like 20 series
I agree for the most part. Plus, in a tablet form, thermal will also affect performance. Best to adjust expectations when knowing the physical limitations of this device
Good luck with the keyboard…
I have replaced my third in 3yrs though maybe a total of 3hrs every year typing on it…
Sorry to hear. At least you can replace it unlike a traditional keyboard. Thanks for the comment
@@paolocee bruh, what do you mean "you can replace it unlike a traditional keyboard"? I have replaced factory keyboards for all my laptops by myself before. As for FlowZ13, there is an entire subreddit full of FlowZ13's keyboard not usable unless it is flat on a surface. Look it up dude. I don't disrespect you or ASUS or Flow Z13. But I will never buy ASUS products now. I just wanna let everyone know that Flow Z13's replacement keyboard is around USD200-300 even on Aliexpress. Therefore, you guys better hang-on to and/or extend your warranty like I did, though WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO. And fun fact, ASUS service centre reformats your whole window setup, just because "they can replace the keyboard unlike a traditional one". Have fun out there and enjoy it while you can!
it's a scam. i got the X13 for almost a year now and the eGPU is still not available for purchase.
Sorry to hear
yo tuve una y se
calienta demasiado
Agree. The G14 from Asus is even hotter!
Is that the port for XG Mobile?
Yup! Never got the chance to get one but from what I heard, it works amazingly well. Thunderbolt would be enough to believe the claim 👍
This video comes a little bit late, this Rog Flow z13 was released 1 year and a half ago and this tablet/laptop seems very old and not worthy of what it offers.
Nevertheless, I don't think it is a bad product, quite the opposite, the concept of Z13 is great but I don't know why Asus abandoned this product, I expect they release a newer version for 2025, but it should have a better CPU with E-cores, maybe ryzen AI HX370 to enhance the battery duration, with a better GPU like 4060 for standard units, (not use the 4050 anymore) and change their proprietary e-gpu connector to oculink or put 2 thunderbolt 4 at least (or thunderbolt 5?), OLED panel and better battery.
Nice
I got the RTX 4060 version a month or so ago, and it's very fast and handles all I throw at it for CAD and graphic design. It will rarely be used for gaming. Only downside is you cannot upgrade the 16 GB RAM and it occasionally freezes. Possibly related, as I type this with Autodesk Fusion, Adobe Illustrator and Microsoft Edge open (with 5 tabs), 85% of RAM is used, so already sailing close to the wind. (CAD is very memory intensive.) I think ASUS should release a new model with 32 GB RAM option, OLED display, ditch the eGPU port, move the Thunderbolt 4 port that's behind a rubber flap to next to the other TB4 port, see if they can knock a few mm off the thickness, offer a 5G (sim card) option, and maybe make the screen taller, like the Surface Pro series, although I appreciate a 16:9 display is suited to gaming, the target market for this machine. Oh, and allow the keyboard to connect with Bluetooth, like the new Surface Pro keyboard.
1:15 what game was that
Sorry for the late reply! The game is called "Live Alive" and it's an amaaaazing game
Does this have battery bypass when plugged in?
Not really, it just keeps the battery charged and with smart charging, it retain a charge level of 80%
@@paolocee Ah okay thank you!
Bro playing quake 2 from the 90s haha
Quake II RTX version so it’s not the exact low rez from the 90s 😎
It is better to use this money to build a computer on a mini atx in a 4-liter case
👀perhaps
But does it run mobile games?
Pretty much does 👍
amd ryzen 4900hs? thats a mistake.
Kinda 🙊
Perfect? Barely gets to 1 hour of 'portable' gaming if u are away from the charger.. z13 user of almost 2 years here..😢
Yeah: I never play AAA games on battery. But if it’s longevity you’re talking about; we are in an age where tablets and devices are now harder to update your battery… unfortunately, the thinner the device; the harder it’ll be. We live in a disposable age which angers me!
wtf that price
Insane!
sooo its a surface pro???
But Better 👍
Much better the nitro 5 i5 and 3050ti… 4 ways exhaust and 2 fans.. more than enough
thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
how about battery? if its just 3 hrs. for a tablet imma pass.
3 hours of gaming, yeah. that i9 is a whopper for a tablet. Regular use is around 6-8 hours so definitely on the lower end for battery in this form factor.
@@paolocee Thanks for this info, sir!
@@tofuenthusiast thanks for the view!
@@paolocee subbed!
How long the battery will last for editing videos using Adobe Premier Pro?
Nice 💪 bisceps
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Quiero uno
It’s very good but check out the G14 as well!
Awesome design overpriced and underperforming. It is tick so i don't see why it could not house an RTX 4070 110w. For its price it should because external card costs as much as the base device.
Yeah agreed 👍
taking a microscope to a screenshot I can see a flaw on the plastic that only could be seen on a microscope. Therefore. Asus will probably deny any warranty on that thing. (if you don't know the joke im making here. go look at gamers nexus' rog ally warranty video.
the larger message is after what they put gamers nexus through. I just can't trust Asus with any purchase going forward. they aren't trustworthy.
I know and don’t disagree. When doing these videos, asus said that their service side is definitely taking a hit with these bad PR so they definitely need to fix that. However on the front end, where all the products are made, Asus is really trying hard to be at the forefront. Sadly there’s always two sides….
I got carried away with intro music... cha cha cha
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Deve ser caro para um Carvalho....
Thanks~!
I had it before worst gaming tablet, i have rog ally and minisforum v3, much much better
Yeah, amazing how much we’ve moved forward with the new chipsets in handheld form!
Battery will be useless within 2 weeks of gaming, hence becoming and expensive laptop that goes nowhere lol. Until they get these batteries to last longer, gaming on the go is useless. Will always need a power source after 20 min.
@@DASOMILITIA true. But that applies to any device you wanna game on that's portable. Thanks for the feedback
i dont know but this video doesnt load correctly. just letting you know
Thanks for the feedback. Seems to be ok on my end across all devices. What do you see in your end?
Works fine for me
stop using AAA for 4050. bruh I can't even run RD2 for 60fps with 1440p.
Everybody does that. I always tell people to adjust expectations lol
Baik
Thank you!🙏