MG Infotainment kinda SUCKS, so get a discounted W903 Carpuride Wireless Carplay instead! 😎👉th-cam.com/video/NwYsRIfpqr0/w-d-xo.html 🛑 IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT DCT usage described in this video 🛑 My dear viewers, as suspected - it looks like I just don't understand DCT properly, hence the mistake I made in car operation, resulting in this video - at least on the topic of DCT... The electronic glitch story (second topic) still stands, by the way... Thank you to Bob and others who explained to me how DCT works - in MG HS at least - and that I'm supposed to be using "Auto Hold" on incline feature that should allow me (and you!) to come to a full stop on the incline and let the car hold itself in that inclined position, without rolling back. I've never had to do this in any of my previous cars with "normal" automatic transmissions - as I've expressed in the video - which is why this uninformed use of a DCT caused the issue I'm describing. If you don't repeat my mistake, you should be fine, and hopefully I won't see this warning ever again either. I will post an update video (if required), once I had a chance to properly test this! Thank you all for your interest and support!
thank you for sharing these experiences. It will be of great help to many of us. also thanks to the guys who are giving suggestions in the comments to solve the problems. These new cars are quite different then the ones we are used to.
Thanks mate! I'm very grateful to all commenters too - as you said, there's not all that much info available on these relatively new cars on the market just yet! So we need to help each other
Hi from the UK. So are you using the auto hold function. Because you should be. Pull up behind the traffic and come to a standstill. The car will auto hold. I'm not talking about the electric handbrake. But the button next to it. As soon as you can move forward just accelerate. The car will auto release the brake so it will move. This will repeat every time you come to a stop. This is the correct way to use the DCT without causing any problems or rolling back. Do not balance the car with the throttle as this will eventually damage the gearbox. Auto hold should be switched on and left on. Your other issue I don't know enough about what's actually going on. Also did you manage to get the infotainment system updated. Uk cars have this update done already. I would contact the dealer about any glitches. It's all manufacturers that suffer. My SEAT LEON had glitches that happen every now and again. I think it's probably just because of the amount of electronic systems that are built in to new vehicles. 👍
Thanks a lot for your advice, Bob, I suspected that I'm doing something wrong, aka "old style" of being used to the "not smart cars"... No, I didn't know about auto hold function, will take a look at the buttons next to the hand brake... I guess part of the fun of it is the discovery of things I didn't know - so thanks again for pointing it out for me!
ZST has a conventional 6 speed automatic with a torque converter that provides creeping in traffic and hill holding momentum as always engaged when in drive setting. The 7 sp DCT in the HS like all DCTs cant creep (which saves fuel) and if driven this way you can overheat the transmission and wear the clutches. So the car is protecting itself. Also for the second issue you may have rubbed the steering column and engaged it’s locking mechanism which is an anti theft device - just a thought. Keep on sharing your experience though as many others probably have had similar experiences :)
Thanks a lot, Mal, appreciate the technical breakdown here - it explains why driving ZST is so much more enjoyable for my "old school" and maybe a bit DUMB style... 😉 I'll look into the auto hold function that Bob told me about, appreciate your input too mate! 👍
The part of burning the clutch is right but not all dcts like that, my polo has a dct called dsg, which creeps pretty good in stop start traffic. But atleast its good that car is protecting itself unlike the fiats which just burns their clutch
Hello,Demitry...about DCT, It's normal to roll down when on up hill for the DCT transmission, you shouldn't hold with accelerater on up hill ,that's why you have dct warning! the ZST have different transmission,that's why don't have problem,also dct transmissions are not suitable for heavy traffic when stop start, they do feel rough, every automatic transmissions are all different,it depends what kind of driving that you do,for example CVT are good fuel economy ideal for city driving,dct good HWY and high performances and basic 6 speed standards automatic for both way and also ideal for towing....
Hmmm, the problems you are having are interesting… I once drove my mother’s HS Essenceand interestingly, it did creep forward when I released the brake. Not as much as a conventional torque converter, but my some margin, it did roll forward a bit up to about 4km/h. I don’t know if mg is just inconsistent in their build quality, but from what I heard, my mother is really enjoying her car. She has owned it for 1 and a years now. Also, something interesting is that my mother doesn’t really use the auto brake hold on little hills (like the 15 degree incline you were talking about) and the car handles it just fine, it is interesting and I will look further into it to assist you. I am enjoying the videos and I appreciate the time you take out of your day to make these for us, in case anybody else has these problems :)
love the video's mate keep it up ,I'm the owner of MG HS. since new have put over 20 k km,s on the car .. my first problem I discovered was also in traffic on hills rolling back or very rough take offs I found the solution ,Next to the electronic handbrake there is an auto hold button (A) it will apply the brake when stationary, there's an indicative symbol on the LHS of the display to show that it's engaged. Then you can release your right foot on the brake (the pedal stays where you left it which feels a bit strange at first) and then once you are able to pull away the brake will automatically release once you apply the accelerator.. still after all the km,s not happy with the feel and performance of transmission.. I have also experienced the electronic glitches false start no response etc never the steering wheel warning but .. here's few other issues I have experienced the Collision avoidance system glitching giving off sensor readings when nothing is there and camera warning saying to unblock view of front camera when nothing is obstructing the view ... very recent one driver door handle malfunction not opening or sometimes wont close .. have chased all these issues up with warranty at mg service center heads up it does take a lot for them to admit a fault an address the issue overall it is good family car for the price range I'm happy with it but as you also said its all the small malfunctions an glitches they start to get annoying and build up sometimes you have in back of your mind what new problem is going to arise today..
Great write up and thank you mate for the advice on A button - I had no idea! I prefer conventional transmission, it's so much easier to understand and deal with, honestly....
It sounds like a lot of nonsense to put up with when you have a new car. I've had my Toyota Yaris for 14 years with hardly any problems. I drove an MG hire car and it was a nightmare because there were times when I was pressing on the accelerator and the car wouldn't move, this felt dangerous because I thought if I pressed too hard the car might suddenly take off.
@@sarahsimms3252 o my God I scared wella I am not pay for them but I pay only 1000 dhs MG HS but I order already but all this problem 101k dhs not fair
The roll back on an incline happened to me twice during my test drive of the HS. I quickly put the auto hold on so I didn’t roll back into the car behind me. Thankfully I knew it was there due to TH-cam research prior to the test drive. But I also drove the ZST on exactly the same route during my two test drives of that model and didn’t need the auto hold on. I think it definitely must have something to do with the difference in transmissions.
Yep thanks Mel, I didn't know about auto hold - hence the updated thumbnail and the pinned note above... I honestly preferred normal transmissions to DCT...
Regarding "release steering column", you need to apply some pressure to the steering wheel turning is slightly left or right to unload the locking pin to allow it to release. (An old fashioned car with a key will also need some pressure released from the steering wheel to get it off the lock pin if you had turned the steering wheel with the key out of it).
Think of DCT as similar to a manual gearbox, it is not the same as a traditional torque converter gearbox. You wouldn't hold a manual gearbox car on an incline while riding the clutch because it will wear out the clutch prematurely. This is what you've been doing with your car. You should use the Auto Hold button - it's there for exactly this kind of scenario.
Engine not starting also happened to my wife! Same scenario, screen on, electronics on but no engine! All I did was use the remote to lock & unlock the car & it started fine🤦🏻♂️😂😂 I agree my friend, annoying & frustrating electronic glitches.
For real key, two stages exist. First stage is all electronics on except engine, so you can move your windows for example. Second stage is starting the engine. For keyless entry, do stage two by pressing foot brake. Stage one by not-foot brake.
@@jimmycheng5337 Yes mate, know all that. What I’m saying is, the foot was on the break! No engine start! We have experienced many other electronic faults with the car, it is truely Chines SHIT !
Simply use the "Auto Hold" all you need to do is put your foot on the brake. The brake symbol will show Green which means you do not need to hold your foot on the brake and when you re ready to go JUST put your foot on the Accelerator. It will save you having to hold your foot on the brake in traffic. As for the Electronic rubbish it is something that could be ignored and if it turns up too often then something needs to be done under warranty
2 things. Auto hold feature is designed for this but you get the warning message due to the car knowing the gearbox/accelerator is pressed but can't detect wheel speed so believes there is an issue (possible slip in transmission clutches) Second thing (same issue) is the battery in the key isn't strong enough for the car to read to unlock steering column lock. Of you look in the front cup holder there should be a unlock symbol and you need to place your key in there for the car to read the key if the fob battery is dead/low. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
Mate IF the trick with the car not starting and that steering lock thing happening WORKS (yesterday it happened again - WITHOUT release steering warning, but the car wouldn't start again - exactly as described in the video - did you have a similar situation?), that would be of massive help! 🙏
Thanks Dimitri, I’m just about to change my MG5EV LR for the HS Exclusive DCT version. Won’t go into the hell on wheels charging in the UK causes ! I watched your video all the way through and can understand your obvious frustration. My only comment is actually a question. Have you raised those two “problems” with MG themselves ? If so what was their response ? I’m sure all HS owners would be interested. 0k
Hey Brian, yeah I don't know which country is "ready" to embrace EVs fully mate... I think we'll be ok for a decade or so in our good old petrol-based cars... No I haven't raised these issues with MG mate, they wouldn't even know who I am, so I assess my chances of being heard (or listened to!) realistically here! ;)
Hi, another good info to the MGHS owners, the DCT problem is as you were told about how to operate it with the auto hold is true, about the electronics, that’s where I am getting a little annoyed with now, ever so often the screen goes blank on me, but after awhile comes back on, I really would like some kinda solution to this from anyone who has solved this problem, thanking you’ll in advance, or maybe do I have to carry it back to the dealership to solve this problem I’m having, it’s getting on my nerves now for sure.
Thanks Anthony, as many pointed out by now - I've had no idea about how to use auto-hold but will obviously use it from now on... Blank screen must be annoying as hell if it happens to you often - I only saw it once, but would be freaking out if it was a common thing! Yes, talk to the dealership, maybe a software update is available?
The worse thing I did was get the top HS automatic version I hate it!!! Nothing but problems with the media screen going black glitching not turning on whilst using the sat nav!!!! The engine sounds like it’s struggling it’s way too small for the car type they need to change the engine size when driving it on eco, normal or sport it’s struggling for its life! Let me not start on the incline problems like you mentioned in this video- worse decision I made was get this car I think it’s a “ dogey” one as driving the basis model no mod cons on it and it drives better how is the lower model (later car 22 plate) a better drive when it’s the basic one don’t make sense it’s a courtesy car as mines is with the hendy group uk 🇬🇧 being serviced I tell them about the fault they say it needs a media reboot but it never works 😤😤😤😤 glad I’m not alone in my MG nightmare.( I bought in lockdown when I couldn’t even test drive it)
You're definitely not alone, but it sounds like you had a lot more recurring and persistent glitches than we've had, thankfully! Maybe software update would fix it for you - depending on where you are of course, as we in AU are not going to see it for a long time by the looks of it...
i parked the car, locked it, came back and drove off. It started to rain and the wipers would not work at all, pulled over turned the car off then back on and would still not work. Pulled into a side street, turned car off then wipers began to work whilst car off. Turned car on and suddenly wipers worked normally. I’ve found Apple car play to be glitchy too, will connect then disconnect a short time later. DCT transmission is terrible, drives like a learner driver in a manual for the first time.
Mate!! Finally happened to me today! On holiday, packed the car ready to come home,…… Tailgate won’t close! Tried all the buttons, Nothing! Had to Close it manually. Got home 3 hours later, no problem 😡 Annoying. I’m making a list of all these issues to let fly at the first service.
Definitely make a list, I am waiting a little bit with all the accumulated annoyances to go in and hopefully address all at once, rather than keep pestering the service centre and break up my days with the car drop offs and pick ups... 🤦♂️
@@ronaldreagen5448 try telling my wife that! It’s her car really, & she hates it with a passion! Some issues might seem minor, however, when they happen on a regular basis it’s simply annoying & they should NOT be happening on a New car. Lesson learnt though, you get what you pay for, won’t be buying any Chinese Shit in future.
@@typhoonfpv Well coz it happens all the time, i just tought it must've been on purpose. Like you can open the tailgate with your remote right, i try 1st open&close it with the console button near the stick, then i try it with my remote while i'm inside. It wont open.
@@ronaldreagen5448 in my case, none of the buttons worked, not the remote, butting near the gear shift of the tailgate button itself, so yeah, I closed it manually, WHICH BTW, we were told not to do by the salesman as it will upset the settings on the tailgate!! 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Dear sir i have also some type of indication I my driving on hill station , some reason traffic jam and i have to reverse (R) mode car when i reverse the car not so much hills , suddenly while on reverse there is little runber buring smell and there is indication like ""turn your engine off" with some red engine picture heated sign but i was stuck and never turn off in that situation and reversing MG HS NEAR 3--5 MINIUTE WHEN I REACH AFTER 3--5 minutes then i stop my engine for a while Can u explain this indication or burning smell After then drive this car back from hill station but no problem there Is up mentioned situation cause some big problem in car like engine, clutch , gear box etc Can u guide in this regard Thanks
Wow sounds like something might be really wrong and my only advice here would be to urgently call your service department, as these cars come with rather generous warranty and support - this isn't something I'd be ignoring and/or asking for advice on youtube. That's what your MG support is for! :) But it's definitely not something I'd ignore.
I’ve got a loan ZS MG at the moment with 25,000kms on the clock & enjoy driving it a lot but in essence you won’t know about a vehicle until at least 100,000kms. Anyway for the price they seem a nice enough vehicle
Yes the price is good and I'm sure you know "enough" at 25k mate. Of course it's not the ultimate test of how long it lasts overall, but hey, it's good enough to draw some conclusions.
@@ValueCarsAU Exactly, I like what this vehicle is & it’s somewhat representative of Toyota & Honda in the 80s where they turned average cars into world quality vehicles slowly but surely.
I did the exact same thing first week we had the car! 😂😂 it’s really my wife’s car, as mentioned previously, she hates the car, I’m starting to dislike the DCT as much as CVT. Next car will be normal auto transmission, ( whatever normal is supposed to mean ) I’m lucky enough to drive an Ford XR6 Turbo 😊
Dear Dimitri, good video I know what you mean. I watch your video till the end. I just bought a RX5 and from standstill the car moves but changes real quick and over revs in between 1st and 2nd and 2nd and 3rd. I personally think being and electronic transmission it may need a reset.
Zst 1.3L turbo. 2021. 12,000km. Had all warning lights come on. Occured several times. At 1st service they checked it over and it was a faulty sensor connector. Idle is high, but apparently cannot be lowered. So jerky engagement. Entertainment screen stays black occasionally, then comes on. Same with radio. Today wife reveresed out of garage but light stayed in P. Put into drive and it stayed in P. She turned car off, waited, then on, and it was normal again. Phone was connected to bluetooth but would not dial out. Bluetooth turns off. Rear vision mirror rattles when driving on certain roads. Getting a bit annoyed with all these things. Ps. In new zealand.
Mate that's a lot of issues and the car isn't that old! You have 7 years warranty there too, I'm sure? You're a very patient man, I'd be seriously raging there at the service centre (lol)
@@ValueCarsAU we have a 5 yr warranty. They came out with 7yr 2m after we purchased. They fixed the sensor under warranty. My problem is the dealer is an hours drive away. I will flick it before 5 years.
Can you compare the DCT in the HS with the DCT in the MG5? (MG GT in other regions) I've heard that they improved it a bunch and I'd love to see your comparison between the two.
Not sure what you mean by courtesy lighting mate? There is only an MG logo projected on the ground when you open the door at night, but it's hardly a proper "lighting".
Hello!Mine Mg hs make sort of noise when in stop and go traffic and 2nd gear is in during rolling the car,as soon as accelerator is pressed i hear a clunk noise may be DCT engages or something like that and especially on speed breakers when downshifting is this normal?
With the release steering, I'm assuming it means the steering was locked? Like if you turn the wheel whilst the car is off, the wheel locks in place for security reasons. I'm sure you had to just turn the wheel with some pressure when the message came on just to unlock it. Edit : Yup, I've googled it, just had to put some pressure in to the wheel to turn it before the error goes away.
Also, if the battery has been changed does it need to be reset, by that I mean do I need to tell the on board computer that we have changed the battery. I know on BMW s you need to do this or it will over charge the new battery.
thanx for review of glitches im slowly going off getting an mg hs/zs sure not all cars will have this but i thinking it could happen. cheers for videos
I wouldn't know the difference between 2020 and 2022 models to be honest, but would check the whole thing over a long test drive if I were you picking a new car in 2022. Electronics - especially infotainment - was a bit sluggish in my HS 2021, and the whole infotainment system was due for a refresh that I think they were getting at least in UK and India. In AU we still had old software.
I am in the process of buying the same MG this is a bit worrying Just a thought as an electronic engineer what you are discribing is normally caused by static electricity Does it happen normally in a thunderstorm or do you normally get electric shock when entering the car just a thought try connecting a anti static strip to the back of the car i hope it works as i am in the process of buying onee Good Luck
Hey, I think it's just how I was driving/operating it that's the issue, not static electricity or something else, but I'm not a specialist - so it's just an educated guess, plus a lot of people already chipped in their opinions in the comments too, which helped me. I wouldn't worry about it too much as long as you don't mind how DCT works in general, i.e. how it shifts the gears, possibly jerks a bit, etc.
I wouldn't recommend, I drove an MG for a week and this accelerator issue was a big problem for me. I drive a lot of different hire cars for work as well as my 14 year old Toyota Yaris and I've only encountered this problem with the MG. I didn't feel safe because the car wouldn't move when I put significant pressure on the accelerator but I didn't want to press any harder otherwise the car might take off.
Hello sir a quick question please...my mg hs ...when the head lights are on if i indicate right then the left light stays on and the right goes off with only the indicate working(right)and same thing happens when I indicate left...............mg told me this is normal ??????
I'm sorry my friend, I don't have the car for many months now, so can't double check for you... What I'd do if in doubt though is 1) check the manual about the lights - what does it say? 2) call your MG service centre, I assume the car is on warranty still, so they should resolve any issues or concerns you might have.
Could you tell about HS engine 1.5T ? the saleman said engine made by MG own, but some note i readed it the same engine build from Chevy Malibu (2016-2018)
I'll look into reviewing the engine, but can tell you straight away mate that I'm not an engine specialist and not a mechanic... Will see what I can do
Not sure what is the problem with these small glitches .... it is typical behavior for cars packed with sensors and electronics like Kia, Hyundai, any French, Ford or Opel, but in fact any other German brands (not to mention infamous Italian cars).
Hi mate from wales happened to me the release stearing what a pain I thought I was stranded going to ring dealership tomorrow as I got a lot more than that problem avoid this car
Its unpleasant when stuff like that happens, I agree, but the problem remains - with the modern electronics packed cars I'm yet to hear of ONE that never has any issues (yep, including high price tag stuff like Tesla)
Use auto hold that’s what it’s for you will burn out your clutch the way your driving the car read the manual or get some lessons on how to properly drive a DCT
Not something I saw, maybe someone else had this experience? I'd contact your dealer immediately as they might be able to help or at least direct you further?
@@ValueCarsAU cool. i did a bit of reading later. i think its 6 speed auto ( torque convertor) on the petrol engine side. and 4 speed for the electric motor. i really like that car, but transmission seems complicated. i dono really.
Took my car yesterday NGHS stereo system will not let me put all four speakers on tried everything got my nephews who know everything about computers and cars still only two front speakers very very bad only realised when my nephew and his girlfriend are in the back of the car that there was no sound coming from the rear speakers three different people have been for the menus in settings when you go onto the sound settings for the four speakers it will not let you go onto the back speakers no matter how many seconds are you going to very very disappointed
Hey George, very interesting and I wouldn't have paid attention to rear speakers probably to tell you for sure if we had (or are having) a similar problem. I wouldn't even think twice or ask around and instead go straight to your dealership service department. The car is on generous warranty, they'll sort it out.
Does anyone else have problems with the stereo in a brand-new MGHS just taken delivery in England of a 72 plate rear speakers in the car are not working
You're slipping the clutch pack and over heating it. It's YOUR fault, you're not using the gearbox correctly. DCT are not like Torque Converter transmissions, 100% your fault.
Oh thanks for stopping by to tell me it was my fault, I hope you feel better about letting me know this wonderfully useful piece of news about a year after the video was published too! Awesome stuff, keep it up!
True, Just bought the petrol only version. Absolutely trash!!!!! The gear box and engine are rubbish plus the quality of the used materials screams cheap China..... I wish I never bothered with this overpriced junk.....
Really bad idea to hold Any vehicle on their clutch that is why you have a brake. This is Not the way to drive as it destroys clutches. PS I really dislike China made vehicles. ;-)
Good points but out of curiosity - why the prejudice against China made vehicles, and a follow up question - how do you feel about iPhones? Or any other product that comes out of china - in part or a whole?
@@ValueCarsAU Bad experiences of people I know including sourcing spare parts (LDV 3 month wait for a door) etc. Taking other products besides highly Western quality controlled iPhones, In the past two years the quality from China has gone down I've personally experienced. It may be because Westerners have left due to unfavourable situations. I worry when I buy a USA brand Trek push bike and every China made rotating part failed by 3000km. I now have 22,000km on Shimano parts made in Asia (Not China). So yes I am concerned in recent years. Plus the resale is very bad with Chinese brands. Maybe it might improve If they improve Freedoms there one day - maybe in their companies products it could be reflected.
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🛑 IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT DCT usage described in this video 🛑
My dear viewers, as suspected - it looks like I just don't understand DCT properly, hence the mistake I made in car operation, resulting in this video - at least on the topic of DCT... The electronic glitch story (second topic) still stands, by the way...
Thank you to Bob and others who explained to me how DCT works - in MG HS at least - and that I'm supposed to be using "Auto Hold" on incline feature that should allow me (and you!) to come to a full stop on the incline and let the car hold itself in that inclined position, without rolling back.
I've never had to do this in any of my previous cars with "normal" automatic transmissions - as I've expressed in the video - which is why this uninformed use of a DCT caused the issue I'm describing. If you don't repeat my mistake, you should be fine, and hopefully I won't see this warning ever again either. I will post an update video (if required), once I had a chance to properly test this!
Thank you all for your interest and support!
Is the “Auto Hold” covered in the Manual ?
Ps only just saw your answer re the DCT “problem” 🙄
My KIA Stonic DCT W/O auto hold function, had no issue when stop => climb
Or just play music via Bluetooth ..... No Car Play! No Android Auto! No B. S. ?!!!!
Just connect your phone to the car via bluetooth and that's it
thank you for sharing these experiences. It will be of great help to many of us. also thanks to the guys who are giving suggestions in the comments to solve the problems. These new cars are quite different then the ones we are used to.
Thanks mate! I'm very grateful to all commenters too - as you said, there's not all that much info available on these relatively new cars on the market just yet! So we need to help each other
Hi from the UK. So are you using the auto hold function. Because you should be. Pull up behind the traffic and come to a standstill. The car will auto hold. I'm not talking about the electric handbrake. But the button next to it. As soon as you can move forward just accelerate. The car will auto release the brake so it will move. This will repeat every time you come to a stop. This is the correct way to use the DCT without causing any problems or rolling back. Do not balance the car with the throttle as this will eventually damage the gearbox. Auto hold should be switched on and left on. Your other issue I don't know enough about what's actually going on. Also did you manage to get the infotainment system updated. Uk cars have this update done already. I would contact the dealer about any glitches. It's all manufacturers that suffer. My SEAT LEON had glitches that happen every now and again. I think it's probably just because of the amount of electronic systems that are built in to new vehicles. 👍
Thanks a lot for your advice, Bob, I suspected that I'm doing something wrong, aka "old style" of being used to the "not smart cars"... No, I didn't know about auto hold function, will take a look at the buttons next to the hand brake... I guess part of the fun of it is the discovery of things I didn't know - so thanks again for pointing it out for me!
@@ValueCarsAU its right next to the handbrake button. Switch it on and your problem will be solved regarding rolling back. 👍
ZST has a conventional 6 speed automatic with a torque converter that provides creeping in traffic and hill holding momentum as always engaged when in drive setting. The 7 sp DCT in the HS like all DCTs cant creep (which saves fuel) and if driven this way you can overheat the transmission and wear the clutches. So the car is protecting itself. Also for the second issue you may have rubbed the steering column and engaged it’s locking mechanism which is an anti theft device - just a thought. Keep on sharing your experience though as many others probably have had similar experiences :)
Thanks a lot, Mal, appreciate the technical breakdown here - it explains why driving ZST is so much more enjoyable for my "old school" and maybe a bit DUMB style... 😉 I'll look into the auto hold function that Bob told me about, appreciate your input too mate! 👍
The part of burning the clutch is right but not all dcts like that, my polo has a dct called dsg, which creeps pretty good in stop start traffic. But atleast its good that car is protecting itself unlike the fiats which just burns their clutch
Hello,Demitry...about DCT, It's normal to roll down when on up hill for the DCT transmission, you shouldn't hold with accelerater on up hill ,that's why you have dct warning! the ZST have different transmission,that's why don't have problem,also dct transmissions are not suitable for heavy traffic when stop start, they do feel rough, every automatic transmissions are all different,it depends what kind of driving that you do,for example CVT are good fuel economy ideal for city driving,dct good HWY and high performances and basic 6 speed standards automatic for both way and also ideal for towing....
Thank you mate - I had no idea about DCT auto hold and will be using it from now on! 👍
Hmmm, the problems you are having are interesting… I once drove my mother’s HS Essenceand interestingly, it did creep forward when I released the brake. Not as much as a conventional torque converter, but my some margin, it did roll forward a bit up to about 4km/h. I don’t know if mg is just inconsistent in their build quality, but from what I heard, my mother is really enjoying her car. She has owned it for 1 and a years now. Also, something interesting is that my mother doesn’t really use the auto brake hold on little hills (like the 15 degree incline you were talking about) and the car handles it just fine, it is interesting and I will look further into it to assist you. I am enjoying the videos and I appreciate the time you take out of your day to make these for us, in case anybody else has these problems :)
Thanks for sharing the insights mate, always interesting to hear from the other owners - which is what this channel is all about!
love the video's mate keep it up ,I'm the owner of MG HS. since new have put over 20 k km,s on the car ..
my first problem I discovered was also in traffic on hills rolling back or very rough take offs I found the solution ,Next to the electronic handbrake there is an auto hold button (A) it will apply the brake when stationary, there's an indicative symbol on the LHS of the display to show that it's engaged. Then you can release your right foot on the brake (the pedal stays where you left it which feels a bit strange at first) and then once you are able to pull away the brake will automatically release once you apply the accelerator.. still after all the km,s not happy with the feel and performance of transmission..
I have also experienced the electronic glitches false start no response etc never the steering wheel warning but ..
here's few other issues I have experienced the Collision avoidance system glitching giving off sensor readings when nothing is there and camera warning saying to unblock view of front camera when nothing is obstructing the view ...
very recent one driver door handle malfunction not opening or sometimes wont close ..
have chased all these issues up with warranty at mg service center heads up it does take a lot for them to admit a fault an address the issue
overall it is good family car for the price range I'm happy with it but as you also said its all the small malfunctions an glitches they start to get annoying and build up sometimes you have in back of your mind what new problem is going to arise today..
Great write up and thank you mate for the advice on A button - I had no idea! I prefer conventional transmission, it's so much easier to understand and deal with, honestly....
It sounds like a lot of nonsense to put up with when you have a new car. I've had my Toyota Yaris for 14 years with hardly any problems. I drove an MG hire car and it was a nightmare because there were times when I was pressing on the accelerator and the car wouldn't move, this felt dangerous because I thought if I pressed too hard the car might suddenly take off.
@@sarahsimms3252 o my God I scared wella I am not pay for them but I pay only 1000 dhs MG HS but I order already but all this problem 101k dhs not fair
The roll back on an incline happened to me twice during my test drive of the HS. I quickly put the auto hold on so I didn’t roll back into the car behind me. Thankfully I knew it was there due to TH-cam research prior to the test drive. But I also drove the ZST on exactly the same route during my two test drives of that model and didn’t need the auto hold on. I think it definitely must have something to do with the difference in transmissions.
Yep thanks Mel, I didn't know about auto hold - hence the updated thumbnail and the pinned note above... I honestly preferred normal transmissions to DCT...
Regarding "release steering column", you need to apply some pressure to the steering wheel turning is slightly left or right to unload the locking pin to allow it to release. (An old fashioned car with a key will also need some pressure released from the steering wheel to get it off the lock pin if you had turned the steering wheel with the key out of it).
Thank you for a great advice!
Think of DCT as similar to a manual gearbox, it is not the same as a traditional torque converter gearbox. You wouldn't hold a manual gearbox car on an incline while riding the clutch because it will wear out the clutch prematurely. This is what you've been doing with your car. You should use the Auto Hold button - it's there for exactly this kind of scenario.
Good analogy and explanation, appreciate your comment, thanks
Engine not starting also happened to my wife! Same scenario, screen on, electronics on but no engine! All I did was use the remote to lock & unlock the car & it started fine🤦🏻♂️😂😂 I agree my friend, annoying & frustrating electronic glitches.
Glad it's not just me! I have a theory of how to make it work - check out the next video!
For real key, two stages exist. First stage is all electronics on except engine, so you can move your windows for example. Second stage is starting the engine. For keyless entry, do stage two by pressing foot brake. Stage one by not-foot brake.
@@jimmycheng5337 Yes mate, know all that. What I’m saying is, the foot was on the break! No engine start! We have experienced many other electronic faults with the car, it is truely Chines SHIT !
Simply use the "Auto Hold" all you need to do is put your foot on the brake. The brake symbol will show Green which means you do not need to hold your foot on the brake and when you re ready to go JUST put your foot on the Accelerator.
It will save you having to hold your foot on the brake in traffic.
As for the Electronic rubbish it is something that could be ignored and if it turns up too often then something needs to be done under warranty
Yep thanks, sorted it out with Auto hold back then... Don't have it any more and would NEVER buy a DCT again.
2 things. Auto hold feature is designed for this but you get the warning message due to the car knowing the gearbox/accelerator is pressed but can't detect wheel speed so believes there is an issue (possible slip in transmission clutches)
Second thing (same issue) is the battery in the key isn't strong enough for the car to read to unlock steering column lock. Of you look in the front cup holder there should be a unlock symbol and you need to place your key in there for the car to read the key if the fob battery is dead/low. Hopefully this helps you out a bit
Mate IF the trick with the car not starting and that steering lock thing happening WORKS (yesterday it happened again - WITHOUT release steering warning, but the car wouldn't start again - exactly as described in the video - did you have a similar situation?), that would be of massive help! 🙏
I never had the steering issue just no start. Sorry for the late reply but as I've seen in your recent video all seems to be working!
Thanks Dimitri, I’m just about to change my MG5EV LR for the HS Exclusive DCT version. Won’t go into the hell on wheels charging in the UK causes !
I watched your video all the way through and can understand your obvious frustration.
My only comment is actually a question. Have you raised those two “problems” with MG themselves ? If so what was their response ?
I’m sure all HS owners would be interested.
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Hey Brian, yeah I don't know which country is "ready" to embrace EVs fully mate... I think we'll be ok for a decade or so in our good old petrol-based cars... No I haven't raised these issues with MG mate, they wouldn't even know who I am, so I assess my chances of being heard (or listened to!) realistically here! ;)
thanks for your time and sharing this information with us.
My pleasure and thank you for commenting
Hi, another good info to the MGHS owners, the DCT problem is as you were told about how to operate it with the auto hold is true, about the electronics, that’s where I am getting a little annoyed with now, ever so often the screen goes blank on me, but after awhile comes back on, I really would like some kinda solution to this from anyone who has solved this problem, thanking you’ll in advance, or maybe do I have to carry it back to the dealership to solve this problem I’m having, it’s getting on my nerves now for sure.
Thanks Anthony, as many pointed out by now - I've had no idea about how to use auto-hold but will obviously use it from now on... Blank screen must be annoying as hell if it happens to you often - I only saw it once, but would be freaking out if it was a common thing! Yes, talk to the dealership, maybe a software update is available?
Go take it to the dealer and get the software updated. They released an update recently fixing blank screens and lag etc
The worse thing I did was get the top HS automatic version I hate it!!! Nothing but problems with the media screen going black glitching not turning on whilst using the sat nav!!!! The engine sounds like it’s struggling it’s way too small for the car type they need to change the engine size when driving it on eco, normal or sport it’s struggling for its life!
Let me not start on the incline problems like you mentioned in this video- worse decision I made was get this car I think it’s a “ dogey” one as driving the basis model no mod cons on it and it drives better how is the lower model (later car 22 plate) a better drive when it’s the basic one don’t make sense it’s a courtesy car as mines is with the hendy group uk 🇬🇧 being serviced I tell them about the fault they say it needs a media reboot but it never works 😤😤😤😤 glad I’m not alone in my MG nightmare.( I bought in lockdown when I couldn’t even test drive it)
You're definitely not alone, but it sounds like you had a lot more recurring and persistent glitches than we've had, thankfully! Maybe software update would fix it for you - depending on where you are of course, as we in AU are not going to see it for a long time by the looks of it...
i parked the car, locked it, came back and drove off. It started to rain and the wipers would not work at all, pulled over turned the car off then back on and would still not work. Pulled into a side street, turned car off then wipers began to work whilst car off. Turned car on and suddenly wipers worked normally. I’ve found Apple car play to be glitchy too, will connect then disconnect a short time later. DCT transmission is terrible, drives like a learner driver in a manual for the first time.
Sounds like a bit of a mess, did you take it to service centre and did they fix your issue?
Mate!! Finally happened to me today! On holiday, packed the car ready to come home,…… Tailgate won’t close! Tried all the buttons, Nothing! Had to Close it manually. Got home 3 hours later, no problem 😡 Annoying. I’m making a list of all these issues to let fly at the first service.
Definitely make a list, I am waiting a little bit with all the accumulated annoyances to go in and hopefully address all at once, rather than keep pestering the service centre and break up my days with the car drop offs and pick ups... 🤦♂️
Happens all the time with my MG HS when it's open for some time. But after closing it manually all back to normal. Not some big issue
@@ronaldreagen5448 try telling my wife that! It’s her car really, & she hates it with a passion! Some issues might seem minor, however, when they happen on a regular basis it’s simply annoying & they should NOT be happening on a New car. Lesson learnt though, you get what you pay for, won’t be buying any Chinese Shit in future.
@@typhoonfpv
Well coz it happens all the time, i just tought it must've been on purpose. Like you can open the tailgate with your remote right, i try 1st open&close it with the console button near the stick, then i try it with my remote while i'm inside. It wont open.
@@ronaldreagen5448 in my case, none of the buttons worked, not the remote, butting near the gear shift of the tailgate button itself, so yeah, I closed it manually, WHICH BTW, we were told not to do by the salesman as it will upset the settings on the tailgate!! 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Dear sir i have also some type of indication
I my driving on hill station , some reason traffic jam and i have to reverse (R) mode car when i reverse the car not so much hills , suddenly while on reverse there is little runber buring smell and there is indication like
""turn your engine off"
with some red engine picture heated sign
but i was stuck and never turn off in that situation and reversing MG HS
NEAR 3--5 MINIUTE
WHEN I REACH AFTER 3--5 minutes then i stop my engine for a while
Can u explain this indication or burning smell
After then drive this car back from hill station but no problem there
Is up mentioned situation cause some big problem in car like engine, clutch , gear box etc
Can u guide in this regard
Thanks
Wow sounds like something might be really wrong and my only advice here would be to urgently call your service department, as these cars come with rather generous warranty and support - this isn't something I'd be ignoring and/or asking for advice on youtube. That's what your MG support is for! :) But it's definitely not something I'd ignore.
Live in Pakistan own an HS and watch your videos....all... 😊
Great to hear my friend and appreciate your support! 😊
Me too 😂 @Umar how much have you driven and any glitches like this?!?
I’ve got a loan ZS MG at the moment with 25,000kms on the clock & enjoy driving it a lot but in essence you won’t know about a vehicle until at least 100,000kms.
Anyway for the price they seem a nice enough vehicle
Yes the price is good and I'm sure you know "enough" at 25k mate. Of course it's not the ultimate test of how long it lasts overall, but hey, it's good enough to draw some conclusions.
@@ValueCarsAU Exactly, I like what this vehicle is & it’s somewhat representative of Toyota & Honda in the 80s where they turned average cars into world quality vehicles slowly but surely.
You should test drive the new HS. The DCT seems to have been fixed with a wet clutch system that’s almost like a regular auto to drive
I definitely will, but because I'm not a mainstream car review channel, I have a job and other obligations. Everything takes time.
I did the exact same thing first week we had the car! 😂😂 it’s really my wife’s car, as mentioned previously, she hates the car, I’m starting to dislike the DCT as much as CVT. Next car will be normal auto transmission, ( whatever normal is supposed to mean ) I’m lucky enough to drive an Ford XR6 Turbo 😊
Mate I'm definitely not ever buying a DCT again, even though that Auto-Brake feature did solve my issue, but it still feels "abnormal", honestly... 🙄
Dear Dimitri, good video I know what you mean. I watch your video till the end. I just bought a RX5 and from standstill the car moves but changes real quick and over revs in between 1st and 2nd and 2nd and 3rd. I personally think being and electronic transmission it may need a reset.
No longer have an MG HS, as couldn't stand just the way DCT worked, unfortunately
Both the HS and ZST have Hill Start Assist feature as well aside from the Autohold function.
Glad to hear it!
Isnt that down hill assist only? Not up hill. Plz confirm
Zst 1.3L turbo. 2021. 12,000km.
Had all warning lights come on. Occured several times. At 1st service they checked it over and it was a faulty sensor connector.
Idle is high, but apparently cannot be lowered. So jerky engagement.
Entertainment screen stays black occasionally, then comes on. Same with radio.
Today wife reveresed out of garage but light stayed in P. Put into drive and it stayed in P. She turned car off, waited, then on, and it was normal again.
Phone was connected to bluetooth but would not dial out.
Bluetooth turns off.
Rear vision mirror rattles when driving on certain roads.
Getting a bit annoyed with all these things.
Ps. In new zealand.
Mate that's a lot of issues and the car isn't that old! You have 7 years warranty there too, I'm sure? You're a very patient man, I'd be seriously raging there at the service centre (lol)
@@ValueCarsAU we have a 5 yr warranty. They came out with 7yr 2m after we purchased. They fixed the sensor under warranty. My problem is the dealer is an hours drive away. I will flick it before 5 years.
Thanks for your opinion
You're very welcome
Can you compare the DCT in the HS with the DCT in the MG5? (MG GT in other regions) I've heard that they improved it a bunch and I'd love to see your comparison between the two.
If I come across MG5 here in AU, I'll add it to my list of potential topics. Cheers.
@@ValueCarsAU Thank you very much! We'll be waiting :D
Dimitri thanks for your videos I’ve got a HS but I assume there is no courtesy lighting. When you get in and out of the car
Not sure what you mean by courtesy lighting mate? There is only an MG logo projected on the ground when you open the door at night, but it's hardly a proper "lighting".
Hello!Mine Mg hs make sort of noise when in stop and go traffic and 2nd gear is in during rolling the car,as soon as accelerator is pressed i hear a clunk noise may be DCT engages or something like that and especially on speed breakers when downshifting is this normal?
I hope someone else replies mate, as I don't have this car anymore and would just suspect it's DCT playing up. You should ask your dealership?
With the release steering, I'm assuming it means the steering was locked? Like if you turn the wheel whilst the car is off, the wheel locks in place for security reasons.
I'm sure you had to just turn the wheel with some pressure when the message came on just to unlock it.
Edit : Yup, I've googled it, just had to put some pressure in to the wheel to turn it before the error goes away.
Thanks for clarifying
Just got a HS, I’m concerned about hill stops now. It’s my first automatic after 30 yrs of driving manual cars.
Don't be - I was doing it (clearly) wrong, trying to "balance" with accelerator 🤦Just use auto hold button and put the foot on the brake.
@@ValueCarsAU ok thanks..
Also, if the battery has been changed does it need to be reset, by that I mean do I need to tell the on board computer that we have changed the battery. I know on BMW s you need to do this or it will over charge the new battery.
Absolutely no idea
thanx for review of glitches im slowly going off getting an mg hs/zs sure not all cars will have this but i thinking it could happen. cheers for videos
Thanks mate, hope it helps you
Hey bro I'm thinking of getting a 2020 MG HS. Is there much difference in technology between the 2020 vs 2022 models?
Any advice?
I wouldn't know the difference between 2020 and 2022 models to be honest, but would check the whole thing over a long test drive if I were you picking a new car in 2022. Electronics - especially infotainment - was a bit sluggish in my HS 2021, and the whole infotainment system was due for a refresh that I think they were getting at least in UK and India. In AU we still had old software.
@@ValueCarsAU thanks bro. I will make sure to test drive
Learn how to drive a dual clutch transmission before you damage it. It's not an automatic transmission.
Yep, OR just never buy DCT again - my solution! 👌
I am in the process of buying the same MG this is a bit worrying
Just a thought as an electronic engineer what you are discribing is normally caused by static electricity
Does it happen normally in a thunderstorm or do you normally get electric shock when entering the car just a thought try connecting a anti static strip to the back of the car i hope it works as i am in the process of buying onee Good Luck
Hey, I think it's just how I was driving/operating it that's the issue, not static electricity or something else, but I'm not a specialist - so it's just an educated guess, plus a lot of people already chipped in their opinions in the comments too, which helped me. I wouldn't worry about it too much as long as you don't mind how DCT works in general, i.e. how it shifts the gears, possibly jerks a bit, etc.
I wouldn't recommend, I drove an MG for a week and this accelerator issue was a big problem for me. I drive a lot of different hire cars for work as well as my 14 year old Toyota Yaris and I've only encountered this problem with the MG. I didn't feel safe because the car wouldn't move when I put significant pressure on the accelerator but I didn't want to press any harder otherwise the car might take off.
Hello sir a quick question please...my mg hs ...when the head lights are on if i indicate right then the left light stays on and the right goes off with only the indicate working(right)and same thing happens when I indicate left...............mg told me this is normal ??????
I'm sorry my friend, I don't have the car for many months now, so can't double check for you... What I'd do if in doubt though is 1) check the manual about the lights - what does it say? 2) call your MG service centre, I assume the car is on warranty still, so they should resolve any issues or concerns you might have.
Could you tell about HS engine 1.5T ?
the saleman said engine made by MG own, but some note i readed it the same engine build from Chevy Malibu (2016-2018)
I'll look into reviewing the engine, but can tell you straight away mate that I'm not an engine specialist and not a mechanic... Will see what I can do
@@ValueCarsAU I mean know more info about engine (engine code, model line, manufacturer brand...) not about the mechanical
Not sure what is the problem with these small glitches .... it is typical behavior for cars packed with sensors and electronics like Kia, Hyundai, any French, Ford or Opel, but in fact any other German brands (not to mention infamous Italian cars).
I haven't sampled all of those cars but can tell you that in HS it feels like glitches, on top of me driving DCT wrongly
Спасибо, Дима
Своим всегда велком! 😎
Hi mate from wales happened to me the release stearing what a pain I thought I was stranded going to ring dealership tomorrow as I got a lot more than that problem avoid this car
Its unpleasant when stuff like that happens, I agree, but the problem remains - with the modern electronics packed cars I'm yet to hear of ONE that never has any issues (yep, including high price tag stuff like Tesla)
Use auto hold that’s what it’s for you will burn out your clutch the way your driving the car read the manual or get some lessons on how to properly drive a DCT
Thanks, I obviously never drove a DCT before so this was my rough introduction to how specific this transmission is. I much prefer a normal one.
I only use brake assist for hill stops. Wouldn’t do what you do.
I wouldn't do what I did there either! Lol
Hi has anyone had a caution warning on the hs essence X . I just bought the car yesterday and a yellow caution warning came up. Thank you
Not something I saw, maybe someone else had this experience? I'd contact your dealer immediately as they might be able to help or at least direct you further?
what transmission they use in MG HS Phev.
No idea
@@ValueCarsAU cool. i did a bit of reading later. i think its 6 speed auto ( torque convertor) on the petrol engine side. and 4 speed for the electric motor. i really like that car, but transmission seems complicated. i dono really.
Took my car yesterday NGHS stereo system will not let me put all four speakers on tried everything got my nephews who know everything about computers and cars still only two front speakers very very bad only realised when my nephew and his girlfriend are in the back of the car that there was no sound coming from the rear speakers three different people have been for the menus in settings when you go onto the sound settings for the four speakers it will not let you go onto the back speakers no matter how many seconds are you going to very very disappointed
Hey George, very interesting and I wouldn't have paid attention to rear speakers probably to tell you for sure if we had (or are having) a similar problem. I wouldn't even think twice or ask around and instead go straight to your dealership service department. The car is on generous warranty, they'll sort it out.
Does anyone else have problems with the stereo in a brand-new MGHS just taken delivery in England of a 72 plate rear speakers in the car are not working
Lets see if anyone else had something similar, but like I said to your other comment - just go see your MG service department immediately.
None of those problems with mine I mean her car it’s been great
Good for you, great to hear!
I think a ssangyong korando automatic is best in this class of price ...
I wonder if someone did a side by side comparison to draw these kinds of conclusions.
So should I buy this car ?
Lol I don't know, is this the right car for you? I've offered enough insights for people to make their own decisions
Anyone had intermittent fault getting trip meter to work ,has a mind of its Owen
Not here mate, not so far anyway, maybe someone else will comment
Mg hs does not have hill assist?
Can't remember
hey there, no body is talking anything bad related to gear box issues 😢
I'm not sure if you are just complaining, or trying to say something?
This is Dct, try an X1 you’ll experience the same.
Yes a lot of people told me the same - I guess I just don't like DCT in general? 🤷♂️😉
You're slipping the clutch pack and over heating it.
It's YOUR fault, you're not using the gearbox correctly.
DCT are not like Torque Converter transmissions, 100% your fault.
Oh thanks for stopping by to tell me it was my fault, I hope you feel better about letting me know this wonderfully useful piece of news about a year after the video was published too! Awesome stuff, keep it up!
You will burn out your transmission if you keep doing that. Just use your brake.
Been a while, I've learned from my mistake - hence the video
@@ValueCarsAU just watching through your mg play list. Thinking of buying a zst or a jolion in a few months.
True, Just bought the petrol only version. Absolutely trash!!!!! The gear box and engine are rubbish plus the quality of the used materials screams cheap China..... I wish I never bothered with this overpriced junk.....
It's a shame you had a such a bad experience. It certainly is not Japanese quality but I wouldn't go as far as calling it trash.
Really bad idea to hold Any vehicle on their clutch that is why you have a brake. This is Not the way to drive as it destroys clutches. PS I really dislike China made vehicles. ;-)
Good points but out of curiosity - why the prejudice against China made vehicles, and a follow up question - how do you feel about iPhones? Or any other product that comes out of china - in part or a whole?
@@ValueCarsAU Bad experiences of people I know including sourcing spare parts (LDV 3 month wait for a door) etc. Taking other products besides highly Western quality controlled iPhones, In the past two years the quality from China has gone down I've personally experienced. It may be because Westerners have left due to unfavourable situations. I worry when I buy a USA brand Trek push bike and every China made rotating part failed by 3000km. I now have 22,000km on Shimano parts made in Asia (Not China). So yes I am concerned in recent years. Plus the resale is very bad with Chinese brands. Maybe it might improve If they improve Freedoms there one day - maybe in their companies products it could be reflected.
Avoid total electrically controlled vehicles... They are all pain in ass
Yeah, let's drive steam trains and operate with coal. Great attitude for 2022! 🤣