1966 HILLMAN IMP SUPER | MATHEWSONS CLASSIC CARS | 1 & 2 OCTOBER 2021
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- 1966 HILLMAN IMP SUPER | MATHEWSONS CLASSIC CARS | 1 & 2 OCTOBER 2021
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What a lovely example! I had a 1966 Singer Chamois version in the mid 1970's. Absolutely loved it...great little car and like you said very easy to work on.
I always loved the show Derrick is absolutely brilliant
The governments of the day back in the late '50s refused to help the shipyards on the Clyde and many then shut down! To try and save face they insisted that Rootes built their new factory at Linwood to held employ the out-of-work shipbuilders in the area! They promised funding for the factory and other projects in the area but about half never materialized! The problem with the workforce was they were not used to production line working and had to be retrained on the job! All the disruption was due to the difference in wage structure at Linwood to that in Coventry! The union insisted they should be the same where the management insisted on parity would only occur when productivity at Linwood matched that of Coventry! Plus the IMP was not fully product-ready when the Duke of Edinburgh opened the factory! The opening ceremony was a fixed data in his diary that he was unable(or willing) to change, so the IMP was introduced to the public at least 6 months too early! I know this as I was in the Coventry Design office & working on the IMP and other models!
Bloody interesting comment ...thanks mate. I had no idea...
scottish electricians and most other trades were paid less than their english counterparts but some people just expect them to shut up and take it
@@raycroal Well, all that happened was they lost their jobs.
@@nigden1 they lost their jobs all over the uk motor industry, ffs grow up
How's Bunty Scott Moncrieff these days? He sold great vintage cars in the 1970s
My imp, back in the day, used to loosen its flywheel after about two weeks, I kept all nuts and bolts just about loose enough to take the motor out to tighten the flywheel in about an hour on a Saturday morning. I even drilled and wired the bolts rather than tabs but it still came loose! Loved it though and playing deep purple speed king through the Harry moss cassette player was brill, the stereo in my new car now doesn't sound any better. Long live the imp.
Hillman Imp production was from 63 to 76. I had three and loved them Ten times better than the mini but only sold a tenth as many.
My mother *loved* her 1973 Imp. She went all over UK in it & it only let her down once when the clutch failed.
Coventry Climax fire pump engine. This appears to be a very rare survivor. They could be a vertable pile of trouble - esp. overheating and head gasket failures.
Early issues were gradually sorted but too late to save their reputation. Over forty years since I changed an Imp head gasket - hmmm. didn't think I was that old!
It was half a V8 F1 engine.
Got the love the amount of knowledge this man has i bet he has forgotten more than most will ever know great car loved the imp
Pity he does not know the history of when the Imp was built and when the Linwood factory closed and Avenger production stopped
Hour and a half! Me and my friends ran 6 Imps. We could change an engine in 35 mins (2 people working) so many memories. Paid between 50 and £175 each. Twin SU carbs needed tweaking we had servo operated vents either side of the number plate!
Yes I got removing an engine down to 30mins engine was still hot.The back panel had been off before though.That would be the hardest bit if the bolts were rusted.
I could remove an imp engine and transmission in around 15 - 20 minutes. Disconnect, support, then push the car away
We had an Imp back in the late 80s...despite it's dubious reputation and by then, great age, it was a cracking little motor...We took my three teenaged stepchildren packed in the back (and all our luggage on a roof rack) from the South Coast to Nottinghamshire for a weeks holiday with very little problem with the car...admittedly it did have trouble with a renowned hill on the last stage of the return journey but I still miss that little car...more than any other of the old dogs we had as daily drivers back in those years.
Had a ‘66 one , went like the clappers wish I still had it🏴👍
I owned a signal red 1970 Sunbeam Stiletto. That was an Imp with the sport engine and twin headlamps. A very fast car, equivalent to a Mini-Cooper S. Mine used to like to throw off the water pump belts at high revs (it revved to 8000).
I always loved the Imp , it was such a great shape.
It was actually "inspired" by the Convair in the USA. Compare the two vehicles side-by-side and you'll see that the Imp is pretty much a scaled down version of the Convair.
@@xjet I’ve just looked at the Convair , and I can definitely see the resemblance.
They repaired one on wheeler dealers, air cooled rear engine, great looking car, the Americans thought that the car was dangerous!
@@stevenclarke5606 Yeah, it was a bit dangerous... in the same way the original VW Beetle was. Because the rear swing-arms had changing wheel-camber they tended to have sudden oversteer problems when cornering. This was exacerbated by the rearward weight distribution. Triumph Heralds had a similar rear-suspension setup but the Imp uses this setup for its front wheels -- hence the positive camber on those wheels when lightly laded. Fortunately this simply produces massive understeer instead of break-away oversteer as was happening on the back of the Convair, VW, etc.
@@xjet thanks for the information, really appreciate the insight.
I had a 1972 sports sunbeam imp twin carbs oil cooler lot better then the mini
A bit tail-happy. I spun mine twice. 1 demolished a gatepost with the rear end. 2, on the M11, on ice, 1978.
My friends mum in law bought one of the last ones on an M or N plate in the mid seventies. By the time they made the last ones the quality of the trim and paint was excellent . It was a much more civilised car than the mini.
I remember the public health inspector shaking his head and singing "Hey you get off of my cloud" as he got in his Hillman Imp... I was 17. Bet Jagger feels old.
I remember having a singer chamois, twin carburettor, great car, hard to steer if anyone sat in the back. Bag of cement in the front boot to help it turn.
Front end was so light you could easily lift it off the ground. Excess positive camber was another issue.
Bit of kerb....... hold on to anything up to 55 mph
A mate crashed my mam’s imp when we had a car full. Started weaving down a long straight road and continually over-corrected until we spin backwards into a wall. All ok thankfully.
Ha ha ha ha! I like the bag of cement to make it turn bit! Nice one,that's cheered me up tonight.
@@Upperroad4480 we used a concrete kerbstone
As imp specialists in mid 60/70s we had lots hillman Imps and Singers through our workshop but we never recall flywheel problems
Me neither, I did a lot of work on those engines and owned three imp derivatives
They were made in Linwood , a small village outside Paisley from 1963 to 1976.
Roots tried to build another factory in Coventry but the government at the time wouldn’t allow them . They were offered grants to build a factory near the Clyde shipyards that were shutting down to give the unemployed jobs. I believe if they were built in Coventry and tested properly they would have out sold the Mini.
@Jazzmaster Jay Lol.
Derek , you're a legend mate.
No bullshit
Says it how it is.
Man after my own heart.
Triumph Mk2 in the background....I really loved my 2.5 PI with the Laycock de Normanville overdrive on the 4 speed manual...avocado green with tan interior. It was a lovely car in its day.....havent seen one in ages....
My dad had the first one in Yorkshire on a KW reg in 1963 we still have the travel rugs it came with he kept till 73 but wouldn't have another
Yeah it was a CHURCHILL RG355 cylinder head spanner crow foot ring spanner rare tool seen them appear on ebay sometimes command strong money too
I tried to make one by heating and bending a spanner....fail!
Have one in my toolbox.
My first car. Had to put a bag of sand in the front to stop it from going all over the road in windy weather.
Straight up no B/S. A family man with adult sons, your very family orientated. I mean, your son's work with you, all good stuff. You have real genuine honesty. Derek I think your the salt of the earth. I would buy any cars from you. The car dealing trade have had many negative perceptions from the public. But you go a hell of a long way to changing the bad press. Thank you From a Maori Perspective.
On that performance I would say he is prone to exaggeration and hyperbole.
I had two of these things. I bought the first one because it was cheap but can't imagine why I bought the second one - must have been having a medical episode. One of their design features was that the heater pipes ran through the sills from back to front with the result that the water was cold by the time it reached the heater. At least it helped to stop the radiator overheating.
They were as unreliable as any British car of the day but were great fun to drive.
I bought the Mk 2 brand new £753 in 1972 as a 19 year old,ran it for 8 years, yes it certainly had its problems repeatedly, however as Derek mentioned engine out in no time sorted and back on the road.
Fantastic TV show with a fantastic family and office staff making for a very watchable program I had one of these Imps had to put sandbags over front arches to keep it from lifting at the front it was a light and fairy driving experience the engine was aluminium heads were a problem the Sunbeam fast back was the best out of the range!?.
My old mum had a Singer Chamy, a great little car and surprisingly nippy too.
The engines were built in England . They were fun to drive I would prefer one to a mini for all it's faults.
Learnt to drive in a Wimp had a set of extractors on it. My brother managed to tip a Sunbeam version over in a residential street showing off whilst doing a handbrake turn. He then managed to drive past a police checkpoint while also over the limit.
The IMP was introduced to the public in 1963 and was produced in Linwood until the factory closed in 1976, It was only the first couple of years they had problems with the workers untill they obtained the skill & speed of those in Coventry! Both the Avenger and the Hunters were produced in Linwood for a time!
The last Avengers were built in Linwood (Scottish Imp factory). Imps were probably better built than BMC or Ford stuff. It was Chrysler that started pulling costs out and cheapening everything when they bought out Rootes in 67 or 68.
Really enjoyed the video right up my street 👍🏻
Almost bought a '66 Singer Chamois back in 1977 when I was 17, for the princely sum of £175, that was from a VW dealership. I was learning at the time and my driving instructor warned me off them. Should have taken the plunge though..
Used to work for a Hillman (plus other makes) dealer in the '60's. Great little cars but not without problems. That cracking little engine (based on a Coventry Climax water pump motor) unfortunately being on an angle meant that part of the crankcase/sump gasket was below the level of the oil which often leaked oil through it. Another thing was that the front suspension/steering axle 'king pins' were prone to seizing making the steering very stiff. The answer was that dealers had to modify the carriers, drill holes upper and lower, cut threads and then screw in grease nipples. Personally I was not impressed with the petrol tank immediately behind the front body panel but where else could they put it ?. In the event if a front end shunt the outcome might not be that promising.
The original kingpin carriers came with grease nipples. They were replaced as the original camber angle was wrong. The replacements didn't have grease nipples. The fuel tank had to come out if the brake and clutch master cylinders needed attention.
@@georgemacdonald3087 From what I recall from the early '60's the kingpin bushes initially had a nylon or similar composition lining which theoretically made for easy steering but actually achieved the opposite. I do definitely remember the mechanics at the garage complaining bitterly at having to strip drill, tap and fit grease nipples to the steering swivels instead of simply fitting factory modified items.
It sounds like a disaster area...did Hillman plan this mess?
No wonder the u.k car industry collapsed.it was replaced by the Japanese and u.s companies such as ford and general motors .the only reason why vauxhall is still alive,is due to massive general motors investment.
@@rgadave it sounded like a sixth form project!
My 1st rally car was an Hillman imp it was Brill I worked for a Hillman dealer at the time got tuning parts cheap
My brother had one. Hilarious little cars.
Derek you'll also find that also there was a supply problem due to building imps in Scotland but build parts we coming from the Midlands but you right sabotage also I had one clutch and over heating problems
Looks like Bitter Green. I had a Sunbeam Imp Sport in Bitter Green. The imp started life in 1963
A workmate with an imp,on nights got caught with an early, though severe, frost.
You could put fingers into the cracks in the block.completely shattered.
The chassis went on to become a "mini moke"...somewhere exotic I believe.
Shame,nice wee motor.
Scottish Wasters come come over the border and repeat that.
Hillman Avenger built in Scotland best car I ever owed up till 1990 and its fuel consumption was every bit as good as a modern petrol car 1600 40 ish mpg
Learned how to drive on that. 71'ish Definitely better than the Mini. Mum used to sell them. Had two of em.
We had one of those in 1967 - F Reg. Had the engine replaced under warranty and it was still troublesome.
It's the Triumph 2000 parked behind that interests me
Same here - except it's a 2500 S no less!
@@SimonNoina so it is
Providing you kept reflushing the cooling system out and using the correct aluminium friendly anti freeze they didn't overheat and warp heads (well not much🙄) like driving a limousine compared to a mini, much soother suspension and the engine was from another planet compared to the wheezy A series lump!!!
I had one of these back in the days when they were a common sigth on the roads.
The rear window opening was not a feature of all versions of the imp.
Mine was a burgundy colour and had twin headlights and a more sloped rear window (cant remember what that Imp version was called.
Sister borrowed it and ran over a speed bump too fast which hit the radiator (in the rear wheel arch) and caused a leak which overheated the engine. Second hand engine replaced it. Bought an Avenger after that.
The Imp was like a wee race car. Wish I could afford to buy one now.
Wish I was thin enough to fit in one now :-D
Sloped rear window, possibly a Californian or Stiletto. Had my Calif in 1977. Still hanker after it.
It's likely tool was for the cams. Good engine the Coventry Climax.
I knew an old guy in Nottingham who had an imp he was in his 70's
Used to use it about 3 times a week. He was ill and asked me to take it for an mot got in it drove it and thought "Jesus what the hell is this?" It had the 2000 cc Climax engine in it! He probably did 1500 miles a year in it!
His Brother (a couple of years older) had a Scott don't remember the model and a Vincent Black Shadow restoration project that looked like it hadn't been touched in years. Brilliant guy used to work at the Brough factory!
May have been the spanner for re-torquing the head bolts without removing the cam. Still have one in the garage.
I have never come across a 2 litre CC engine, the existing block only had enough material to go to 1460cc and even that meant eliminating the waterways between the first and second, and third and fourth cylinders to accommodate a 3.0-inch bore, the stroke also had to be increased to accomplish this capacity.
It may have been some other engine as there has been and is to this day quite a few engine transplants that have been tried.
Who remembers Skip Browns Hillman Pimps
I recall that early 70s there was plans in place for petrol rationing and the hillman was given an extra 18 months production on the assembly line due to it being good mpg. then it almost disappeared over night
Leave a mini in a cloud of dust😂, until you try take a sharp bend and end up in the ditch. I've driven both back in the day.
I owned a '67 that was good until it wasn't good anymore. Good fun.
My father had an imp mat green great car ran a dream
That's amazing for a unrestored 100k imp
The triumph TC in the main screen still looks handsome
Had, a Imp followed by a Singer Chamois Sport (oh how I wish i still had it ,rare then so hens teeth rarity now would guess) Wish I had a time machine like most of us oldies . lol
Almost a hatchback if you can get the rear window open!
Bet it was them Weegie Commies, fitting the wrong locks just to embarrass him 50yrs later.
the major problem with the imp was the drive shaft joints ,always liked the fastback version !!
The Stiletto.
Yes the steel inserts ripped out of the rubber doughnuts on a regular basis,carbon fibre thrust bearings shattering..the list could go on, easy enough to fix though.
The first models were produced from 1963 onwards
Lovely little car, better with a concrete kerbstone in the front - stopped the front end lifting.
These cars suffer from over heating after 1 hour drive at 60 mph, does This vehicle has the same problem?
What a geezer true motor trader LOL
Had a Singer Chamois (single carb), reg LES595G, from 1974-5, much better car than the Mini it replaced and only let me down once (throttle cable snapped). It would do 50 mpg on a run from North London to Exeter. Worst thing about it was the colour - Marina Green!
Sigh…..Every single time an imp appears we get the same old diatribe. 🙄
Pity.
Linwood was on the Scottish coast and was then part of the black market trade that sprang up in WW2 and the postwar years. Theft at Linwood was on an industrial scale - not just a few pots of paint or some tools but stamping plates and milling machines. The Australian subsidiary had to collect bits from different kits to assemble them, most having missing parts.
The Simca factory in Bordeaux had the honor of having the highest wine allowance in France - 2 litres a day. that wasn;t the maximum you cold drink - that's what you were provided. The union was run by communist ex-resistance and would physically threaten the management.
Chrysler was going to make the 180 at Linwood - they chose Bordeaux instead.
I had 1back in the day 1971 j reg 875cc oasis green the only British rear engine car.
Unfortunately, the engine has a significant flaw. The lack if a bridge between cylinders 2 & 3 chaffed the head gasket.
It's a Nippy Gnome! at least that is what we called them in the 80s
The Linwood " workers " went on strike one time when the pies in the canteen weren't hot enough .
Brought out 1964
Lovely car. Neanderthal presentation.
Oh and if you are slagging Scots why not slag the rest of the Rover group while you are at it.
The Rover SD's and the Hunters were all rust buckets.
Later put down to the incompatible paint chemistry being used.
But no, it must have been the stormy jocks.
Fekoff :-/
oh did you notice the pure disdain he had for the scots aswell??? it was hardly fkn subtle was it? from the land of allegro and marina shiteboxes and an even more militant workforce, but why confuse the old racist turd with the truth eh?
Imp was released for sale in 63.
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My wife had one and it was a pile of ****. Rusted everywhere. Have to disagree with Derek about the engine gearbox though. It went through head gaskets like hell and the box was a guess what gear you’re in job.
Agree with you. My first car and it was just awful. Might be easy to take the engine out but trying to do anything to the engine whilst in situ was a nightmare. Had so many breakdowns I'd have been better off walking
The tool u refer to is for the cam chain fitted to remove cam sprocket
Looks like a colour they called Primrose Yellow?
Making it sound like a Rolls Royce…..!!🤣
I think the last ones were built in 1974. But don't quote me!!! My mate had a Singer Chamois, fantastic wee car.
1976.
Lovely chatty video. His years are all over the place and mostly wrong, but we all do that and he isn't scripted.
His characterisation of the workers ar the original plant is inaccurate and insulting, although quality on some areas was indeed poor.
And the "moved production to France" was a bit vague and inaccurate.
But.... He loves cars and it comes through...
The Scottish work force killed car production in Linwood..Millions of pounds wasted on trying to get them to build cars.
his racism comes through too mate
@@daviddillon172 what happened at austin rover and B.L in england then??????????? was the morris marina built well???
@@raycroal The Linwood workforce had the chance to show that their ship building skills could knock spots off their southern counterparts in how to build cars and build a great car. But in fact they did the complete opposite which ended in the closure of the car plant.
@@daviddillon172 mate am i supposed to listen to someone who didn't answer my question and can't spell linwood am i supposed to take what you said as de facto??? give me a break!
Is this a new series?
Hated mine. Head gasket kept blowing.
Pretty disappointed in your narrow minded blanket view of all Scotland ?
I mean I could easily have a go at Londoners or London in his days in the 50s, 60s& 70s & how anyone from North of Watford was given not the best of welcomes & that was in England. So god help the Scottish or Welsh or Irish never mind Jamaicans or Indians LOL
Agree. Watched this show for years, quite taken aback by his comments on Scots, verging on racism!
@@chunkybuster7203 I mean Luton is as rough as a Badgers arse & probably the most depressing town in all of England especially since the advent of mass immigration etc. As a Scotsman who has lived in England from London to Yorkshire Manchester & Lancashire to Sussex & Devon I know the English are in general good sorts just like Scottish or Welsh or Irish though this man in his senior years has opinions & that’s fair enough & his comments on the Bolshy Scottish workforce that made Hillman imps, Singer Chamois, Hillman Husky, IMp Californian, Hillman Hunter, Chrysler Sunbeam, Hillman & Chrysler avenger etc is depressingly true but to have a go at millions & millions of individuals is not on especially when this is broadcast Nationally and Globally because all of us are individuals no matter where we are from or live. Communism is an evil thing and what went on in that factory was part and parcel of that. I am from the area that factory was in Renfrewshire on the outskirts of Glasgow (Linwood, Paisley, Johnstone, Glasgow) my dad and uncles worked in that factory & those sort of politics that manifested themselves are still around in this area alongside the vile secret clubs etc etc that encourage industrial strife which I won’t mention or can’t Same with the vile Scottish identity politics hijacked by the same clubs & people who hijacked Global media, our National governments Especially Englandshire which has been using its resources & military to war against the World for hundreds of years & now America 🇺🇸 is replacing them . His sons seem more intellectually open and fair minded than their old msn who I am led to believe is using his tv 📺 stardom to have a go at a lot of people who aren’t what he says or thinks they are.
1963 to 1976
Scottish militants ok but look at Westminster in your London if you want communist militants. Put your brain in gear before ranting
Built fr
62/3 to 76/7
I know he said you can take the engine out (!!) but that engine looks like murder to work on, well some of it.
Politics & identity are a tool & method of divide & conquer & it was very unprofessional of you to attack a part of the UK people over an infiltrated workforce that could just as easily have been in Liverpool, Newcastle, Manchester, Belfast or any other city or town. I used to like watching you & the cars & deals though you showed a vile side I felt that exists throughput the UK as a whole including in Glasgow or Scotland & it’s fed by ignorance & hate.
made in Linwood Scotland
Send a copy to Nicola Sturgeon...
My first car. 1974 Hillman Imp super. Not great. It was only 7/8 years old, with very low miles. Not very reliable.
Such like🤣
My Hillman Imp was a total rust bucket. I bought it in 1976, it spent more in the workshop than on the road. Rusted Kingpins, overheating, leaking head gasket, slipping timing, the list went on and on. In 50 years of driving, only my Fiat Uno could equal the Imp for unreliability. Dreadful quality control I'm afraid. Sadly, Rootes didn't deserve to survive.
I never heard any one say a good word about them in their hey day....
I had a '66 in 1969, absolute piece of junk.
I had a '66 in 1996 and it was the same - but a cheap fun banger
bloody rust buckets overheated all the time front suspension was horrific -warped heads -propper little shitheap
What’s going on TH-cam posts come on !!!!!
Best car ever spoilt by a poor scotish labour force.
Head gasket, kingpins, drive shafts doughnuts, gearbox stir-a-pudding slop, water pump... just some of the many problems encountered.
We had one 1975 came back from Seasalter to dartfotd kent holding it in gear kept jumping out off gear
Looks like the sort of car a woman would only buy if her husband was a mechanic. You can see why people took to foreign cars.