if you go to nintendo.com and look this game up there is another trailer with more possible info, different gameplay videos, and it shows antasma. antasma is a cloud of purple fog antasma is also be a bat and this trailer has alot more that you can figure out. it has a bunch of different clips that i didnt see in any of the dream team analyses please check it out i want to know as much as i can about this game without giving the whole game away.
Maybe that red thing is a hungry Red yoshi like in SuperStar Saga, where you had to find the 7 bean fruit to feed 7 hungry yoshis in the Yohsi Theater. Also since there's return of bean folk, maybe Prince Peasely, or Popple will return. :D
about antasma maybe if you look at the 3rd definition (a representation of a real object) all of the previous enemies of the series died so maybe one of them is causing havoc by being able to morph or something... just a theory.
Probably, it's almost like a tradition for Bowser to be in a M&L game, somehow tie into the final boss, be an idiot, and not know Luigi's name. Maybe Bowser ends up inside one of Luigi's dreams and actually has to be rescued by Mario. Be a fun twist plus he did need help after getting stuck in that cannon in the begining of M&L:SS. xD
Agreed. When u watch this void when u have the game, it makes him look like an idiot. who docent have the game and while watching this your like, "OH MI GAWD THAT'S NOT EVEN IT MAN!!!"
The pattern goes like this: The villain is with it's servant, the villain dies while the servant becomes the main villain in the game after the game after the game his master dies, so Midbus might be the villain of the 5th game, so Antasma is something like the Shroobs anisn't connected with Fawful
Maybe (Ph)antasma is actually Wart, in SMB2 (SMBUS) we never really got to see much of his powers, plus the entire game was a dream to begin with, I think Wart would fit very well as the enemy. :)
Cackletta yes, Fawful...well he returned in BIS, even if this one is a bit more like a BIS 2, I don't think Fawful should be the main villain, maybe Midbus since he didn't actaully die, he just got frozen inside Peach's castle after Bowser defeated him, so he is still alive.
Instead of going into a dream, the entire game is a dream. When you go into a dream, it's a dream within a dream. The Toads are Luigis wearing caps. The weird red thing at the end of the video is Luigi doing a handstand in Mario's shirt. The block people are Luigi after he found a cardboard box and a sharpie. Princess Peach is Luigi from that bit on Superstar Sage where he put on a dress to fool that other guy who I can't remember.
In your analysis videos whenever you say "time to start up the old analysis machine" I imagine a guy in a dark room cranking a giant lever for some reason.
Look at newhatched Yoshis. They have it too. And if you look closely you can see how it slightly resembles a Koopa Troopa's shell. All Yoshis are born with a shell on their backs. The shell is just a convenient place to sit if you're riding.
1 theory on those bird costume things. Most toads have white bottoms and brown shoes, now admittedly bare legs, but whose to say toads didn't decide to take fashion advice from the Bros.. The birds could very well be mascot or dress up costumes as both the museum and the sign at the entrance both have the birds face, making this more likely fan costumes and employee's of the area we are visiting, such as a festival or some kind of theme park area?
That means, that the blue block with Luigi's head with stars on it, means that it would be the menu for special dream luigi attacks. And because of the puzzle blocks making a return, you could unlock two special attacks than just the one. A special dream luigi attack, and a real world special attack. Or could you pick one or the other? OR, would the puzzle blocks be in both dream and real worlds, unlocking the type of special attack you would unlock in the world you collected them in?
This is my Antasma theory: it's a personification of all a sleepers's fears. Think about it. Luigi is known for being the cowardly Mario bro, so he would be the perfect target for a being that lives on fear. And GameXplain already mentioned how the characters in Luigi's dreams reflect what Luigi would like to be treated like, so maybe they further explore Luigi's psyche in some way. It's possible, and even likely considering the second definition of phantasma. I think that'd be pretty cool.
i'd say she impersonates his Mr. L persona, especially since the game seems to be a GIANT loveletter to other mariogames with the Dr.Mario-virusenemy the beanfolk and the blockmen. i think seeing the papermario-verse and mario-and-luigiverse crossing over in the dreams would be particularily awesome.
I'm pretty sure Fawful is dead....then again Bowser did spew tons of purple remains of Fawful, so I guess it is possible that Fawful is still alive...though I'd rather it be Popple or Wart.
I have all the games in this series, I can't wait for this. I hope the block guy (Broque Monsier) or whatever talks to Bowser. Plus it has characters for every game. (Broque, Antasma, who is Cackletta, Shroob, and Dark star combined, E-gad on top of the pyramid, and even starlow.
I found a cool bit in Luigi's mansion Dark moon. If you look in the background in the Secret mine, you'll see a foreshadow/spoiler about the final boss.
Something just hit me. What is Antasma is actually just a manifestation of the negative emotions Luigi feels when Mario gets all of the credit for the job they did together? It may be a little dark, but it seems to fit with what we know.
Maybe this whole game is a dream because, so far, lots of Mario characters from different worlds come together. Then at the end, Luigi/Mario wakes up and realizes. just a thought
OH! When your in the dream the luigi block in battle could be a replacement of the bros special attack! But it uses dream luigis as " ammo " and mario powers it like the cake basket attack in M&L: BiS!
Nintendo States that this is the year of Luigi. i would bet that the whole game is Luigi's dream and the final boss Antasma is a creation of Luigi's mind. And the little bird people are Luigi as well, or have something to do with him. Maybe Luigi wants "revenge" for always being left behind by his older brother. He's been suppressing the feeling for so long that its finally popping up in his dreams... or something. idk
More speculation here but what if Antasma may actually take form of enemys Mario and Luigi already encountered or form his/her minions like them. We can dive into Luigis dreams here, thus Antasma may use memories of Bowser, Cackletta and Fawful and the Shroobs to produce very strong enemys. Also since it is a dream themed last boss I am looking forward to some Mindfuck.
Just one small detail missing: The title screen in the demo confirms AlphaDream as the developer, obvious, but always good to have a confirmation nonetheless. :)
Antasma is definitely a bug for two reasons: 1. The word "ant" is in its name 2. There is an enemy in the game called a "Talantula". This suggests that Antasma is indeed a bug. ;)
This is the only youtube channel I just can not subscribe to and that makes me sad :( I love it and come back at least once a week, but the thumbnails are leaving me in fear of getting spoiled. Keep up the great work guys! I really appreciate it :)
Andre, I think I just figured out the image with the speech bubble store. In Superstar Saga, if you weren't paying attention to the text, there is a store in the BeanBean Castle Town where if you pay the guy 100 coins, he tells you where you need to go or what you need to do. So, I think that's what it could be. It would make sense.
Definition 4, "an illusory likeness of something". Maybe this has something to do with the bird costumes. Maybe in game none of the characters really notice they're in costume and you just pointed out some mid or end game reveal.
no there is three, Kid Icarus, Kid Icarus myths and monsters, and Kid Icarus Uprising. But if you didn't play one of them, it's ok because I only played Kid Icarus Uprising :D
Fawful returned 'cause he was a really funny, dynamic character, and also a fan favorite. I don't think there's anything special about Midbus, other than the fact that he's Bowser's rival for a while.
In the title screen I noticed some chains at the top. This isn't much of a hint, but I THINK it might suggest that there could be a chain chomp boss. This may be supported by some flowers, also at the top of the screen. Which classic Mario boss has a flower? You guessed it. The Wiggler.
Remember in the original analysis you talked about the luigi face in the dream world when Mario's being fallowed by ghost luigis maybe the 5th one (the face) is antasma
Just to let anyone know here, NiNTENDOMiNATi0N did release a footage of this game and showed the world map when he was starting the game. The mountain area is right behind the main temple/castle.
The dream-rock enemies are called "yumebo", since yume is dream in Japanese, and Goombas are called kuribos in Japanese games, this may roughly translate to "dreambas". Just something to point out.
Wow It's A Mix Up From Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story And Mario & Luigi Partners In Time And Mario & Luigi Star Sega In Time For That Baby Yoshi Thingy I Think It's Baby Mario Also Related To Mario & Luigi Partners In Time Too.
we don't know if it will be the last boss yet... in superstar saga, we thought it would be cackletta, but it was... something closely related. not going to spoil it.
at 4:46 the bird by the window in the battle scene is the same bird that the people were dressing up as and the face of the bird is the face on the temple and banners at 1:30. That battle was also in the dream world so maybe it will be in some of the dream levels and luigi dreams about the bird? or maybe that bird is antasma?
If he does , he probably won't have a big role. Since he actually explodes in the end of M&LBIS, he'll either never appear, or have a small role. It seems obvious they won't use fawful for a main villain. (Not that's what you meant, anyway)
4:46 look at that green block with a L on it i have to ideas about it. maybe its one of thoughs blocks in bowsers inside story where you hit it back and forth with mario and luigi to get block pieces. 2nd idea maybe its the way to have luigis face activate a area.or 3rd maybe you have to use luigi alone for a part so you use it to just control luigi
Around 3:39 if you look on the ledge, it looks like the cracks in the ground from Super Star Saga that meant there were beans underneath. It could just be a part of the texture though.
Oi, Andre! May I point out that the Bird is probably some kind of deity that they worship on that island. Here's my logic: Birds > Feathers > Pillows. Now if we sprinkle some magic on any of those properties, we get the basis for this game, and I'm assuming it's the Bird, because why else would they celebrate it's existence so fabulously?
The artstyle for this game is pretty sick.
04:35 That dumbell looks like something out of Banjo-Kazooie
if you go to nintendo.com and look this game up there is another trailer with more possible info, different gameplay videos, and it shows antasma. antasma is a cloud of purple fog antasma is also be a bat and this trailer has alot more that you can figure out. it has a bunch of different clips that i didnt see in any of the dream team analyses please check it out i want to know as much as i can about this game without giving the whole game away.
The graphics are adorable! I really dig how they're using sprites for the characters.
Seriously guys... best analysis Nintendo videos, had to stop at around 2:24 to say say that.
Maybe that red thing is a hungry Red yoshi like in SuperStar Saga, where you had to find the 7 bean fruit to feed 7 hungry yoshis in the Yohsi Theater. Also since there's return of bean folk, maybe Prince Peasely, or Popple will return. :D
about antasma maybe if you look at the 3rd definition (a representation of a real object) all of the previous enemies of the series died so maybe one of them is causing havoc by being able to morph or something... just a theory.
the thing i love about this series is that the bosses are actually challenging
Probably, it's almost like a tradition for Bowser to be in a M&L game, somehow tie into the final boss, be an idiot, and not know Luigi's name. Maybe Bowser ends up inside one of Luigi's dreams and actually has to be rescued by Mario. Be a fun twist plus he did need help after getting stuck in that cannon in the begining of M&L:SS. xD
Funny to watch that more than one year after the game was released xD
Agreed. When u watch this void when u have the game, it makes him look like an idiot. who docent have the game and while watching this your like, "OH MI GAWD THAT'S NOT EVEN IT MAN!!!"
+Diandro Saintable typos
The pattern goes like this: The villain is with it's servant, the villain dies while the servant becomes the main villain in the game after the game after the game his master dies, so Midbus might be the villain of the 5th game, so Antasma is something like the Shroobs anisn't connected with Fawful
I heard Kylie and Popple are back and thats amazing because Super Star Saga was my favorite game in the series
Maybe (Ph)antasma is actually Wart, in SMB2 (SMBUS) we never really got to see much of his powers, plus the entire game was a dream to begin with, I think Wart would fit very well as the enemy. :)
Wow, good job! Keep up the fine work, no other gaming outlet goes to this much detail to analyze every game.
Cackletta yes, Fawful...well he returned in BIS, even if this one is a bit more like a BIS 2, I don't think Fawful should be the main villain, maybe Midbus since he didn't actaully die, he just got frozen inside Peach's castle after Bowser defeated him, so he is still alive.
SS: Main Villain: Cackletta(died) Servant: Fawful(survived)
Instead of going into a dream, the entire game is a dream.
When you go into a dream, it's a dream within a dream.
The Toads are Luigis wearing caps.
The weird red thing at the end of the video is Luigi doing a handstand in Mario's shirt.
The block people are Luigi after he found a cardboard box and a sharpie.
Princess Peach is Luigi from that bit on Superstar Sage where he put on a dress to fool that other guy who I can't remember.
DID YOU JUST ASSUME ANTASMA'S GENDER?!
Captain Highwind Antasma is a boy
In your analysis videos whenever you say "time to start up the old analysis machine" I imagine a guy in a dark room cranking a giant lever for some reason.
Look at newhatched Yoshis. They have it too. And if you look closely you can see how it slightly resembles a Koopa Troopa's shell.
All Yoshis are born with a shell on their backs. The shell is just a convenient place to sit if you're riding.
1 theory on those bird costume things. Most toads have white bottoms and brown shoes, now admittedly bare legs, but whose to say toads didn't decide to take fashion advice from the Bros.. The birds could very well be mascot or dress up costumes as both the museum and the sign at the entrance both have the birds face, making this more likely fan costumes and employee's of the area we are visiting, such as a festival or some kind of theme park area?
That means, that the blue block with Luigi's head with stars on it, means that it would be the menu for special dream luigi attacks. And because of the puzzle blocks making a return, you could unlock two special attacks than just the one. A special dream luigi attack, and a real world special attack. Or could you pick one or the other? OR, would the puzzle blocks be in both dream and real worlds, unlocking the type of special attack you would unlock in the world you collected them in?
This is my Antasma theory: it's a personification of all a sleepers's fears. Think about it. Luigi is known for being the cowardly Mario bro, so he would be the perfect target for a being that lives on fear. And GameXplain already mentioned how the characters in Luigi's dreams reflect what Luigi would like to be treated like, so maybe they further explore Luigi's psyche in some way. It's possible, and even likely considering the second definition of phantasma. I think that'd be pretty cool.
I think the third definition makes the most sense. I mean, in the trailers you could affect Luigi in real life and change his dreams.
this game looks awesome! i havent played the series since superstar saga but this looks like it brings a lot back from that game and im pretty excited
i'd say she impersonates his Mr. L persona, especially since the game seems to be a GIANT loveletter to other mariogames with the Dr.Mario-virusenemy the beanfolk and the blockmen. i think seeing the papermario-verse and mario-and-luigiverse crossing over in the dreams would be particularily awesome.
Not sure when this game was released, but I've recently played this game. I love how he calls Antasma a 'she'
yes someone mentioned that in the first analysis so you and the other person are very observant I never would have caught that.
I'm pretty sure Fawful is dead....then again Bowser did spew tons of purple remains of Fawful, so I guess it is possible that Fawful is still alive...though I'd rather it be Popple or Wart.
I have all the games in this series, I can't wait for this. I hope the block guy (Broque Monsier) or whatever talks to Bowser. Plus it has characters for every game. (Broque, Antasma, who is Cackletta, Shroob, and Dark star combined, E-gad on top of the pyramid, and even starlow.
Wow!! You see all the details
yeah there is no better explanations than game explanations from him
I found a cool bit in Luigi's mansion Dark moon. If you look in the background in the Secret mine, you'll see a foreshadow/spoiler about the final boss.
I just hope he returns he appeared in every mario and luigi game + he exploded in superstar saga and returned i can just hope for the best.
Something just hit me. What is Antasma is actually just a manifestation of the negative emotions Luigi feels when Mario gets all of the credit for the job they did together? It may be a little dark, but it seems to fit with what we know.
Maybe this whole game is a dream because, so far, lots of Mario characters from different worlds come together. Then at the end, Luigi/Mario wakes up and realizes. just a thought
Yes, plus he hates Mario for hitting blocks and ruining their value. xD
If you pulled down Luigi's cap,items that can work with Luigi in the Dream,move from up to down.
How would I know what his voice sounds like if I didn't watch it? Genius.
Yeah, that thing at the end is a Red Yoshi. After the original release of Yoshi's Island, all later versions featuring Red Yoshi give him blue shoes.
OH! When your in the dream the luigi block in battle could be a replacement of the bros special attack! But it uses dream luigis as " ammo " and mario powers it like the cake basket attack in M&L: BiS!
My little brother is getting it for its birthday on august 7th! can't wait to play it!
Nintendo States that this is the year of Luigi.
i would bet that the whole game is Luigi's dream and the final boss Antasma is a creation of Luigi's mind. And the little bird people are Luigi as well, or have something to do with him. Maybe Luigi wants "revenge" for always being left behind by his older brother. He's been suppressing the feeling for so long that its finally popping up in his dreams... or something. idk
This game is going to be incredible.
More speculation here but what if Antasma may actually take form of enemys Mario and Luigi already encountered or form his/her minions like them. We can dive into Luigis dreams here, thus Antasma may use memories of Bowser, Cackletta and Fawful and the Shroobs to produce very strong enemys.
Also since it is a dream themed last boss I am looking forward to some Mindfuck.
Just one small detail missing: The title screen in the demo confirms AlphaDream as the developer, obvious, but always good to have a confirmation nonetheless. :)
Soo many games that might be worth playing coming to the 3ds! Now I need to get a job to buy this on my own!
Antasma is definitely a bug for two reasons:
1. The word "ant" is in its name
2. There is an enemy in the game called a "Talantula". This suggests that Antasma is indeed a bug. ;)
this will be the best 3ds game this year
I like how the graphics are a combination of 2D and 3D
I'm fairly sure at the beginning of the game there will be somekind of "Bird" festival. Which would explain the flags and costumes.
I like the art style they're goinv with.
WOW, Your gameplay analysis videos are so great!!!
Oh, and the red carpet mario & luigi are riding seems like Luigi's pillow from 5:26
Maybe the feathers of those big birds are the base for the magic pillows that opens the portals to the dreamworld.
This is gonna be awesome! Luigi is always there, either on the bottom screen when he´s dreaming, or on the top screen when he´s exploring! =D
This is the only youtube channel I just can not subscribe to and that makes me sad :( I love it and come back at least once a week, but the thumbnails are leaving me in fear of getting spoiled.
Keep up the great work guys! I really appreciate it :)
Andre, I think I just figured out the image with the speech bubble store. In Superstar Saga, if you weren't paying attention to the text, there is a store in the BeanBean Castle Town where if you pay the guy 100 coins, he tells you where you need to go or what you need to do.
So, I think that's what it could be. It would make sense.
Definition 4, "an illusory likeness of something". Maybe this has something to do with the bird costumes. Maybe in game none of the characters really notice they're in costume and you just pointed out some mid or end game reveal.
getting the game 1st day it comes out YAY
The hammer technique was in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga, as well as the hint desk
If you didn't know if you pre-download pikmin 3 on July 20-21 you can get it a day before it is launched.
no there is three, Kid Icarus, Kid Icarus myths and monsters, and Kid Icarus Uprising. But if you didn't play one of them, it's ok because I only played Kid Icarus Uprising :D
Fawful returned 'cause he was a really funny, dynamic character, and also a fan favorite. I don't think there's anything special about Midbus, other than the fact that he's Bowser's rival for a while.
OMG, I'm so excited for this game
my he'll be like he was like in Paper Mario TTYD, where he's not the main villain, but more like a minor antagonist.
In the title screen I noticed some chains at the top.
This isn't much of a hint, but I THINK it might suggest that there could be a chain chomp boss.
This may be supported by some flowers, also at the top of the screen. Which classic Mario boss has a flower?
You guessed it. The Wiggler.
Ah thanks. I didn't miss it but heard it as "can't". Glad that they didn't Sticker Star'd it.
I assume he would be. In all of the Mario and Luigi games the first fight is always wih Bowser.
You can watch the full demo, if you search: Planet 3DS Mario and Luigi Dream Team. The video shows what Antasma's appearance
Bird-costumed guys are mascots for a legendary bird called the Zeekeeper.
Antasma is the bat king I know that
MARIO AND LUIGI DREAM TEAM BROS IS COMEING OUT TOMMOW
Remember in the original analysis you talked about the luigi face in the dream world when Mario's being fallowed by ghost luigis maybe the 5th one (the face) is antasma
Omgosh So exited for this game!! I love you, Nintendo.
YES! THANK YOU! I love these videos! They're awesome!
Just to let anyone know here, NiNTENDOMiNATi0N did release a footage of this game and showed the world map when he was starting the game. The mountain area is right behind the main temple/castle.
Oh my god...
THAT'S AMAZING!
I hope the music from the last games return, i.e the ones playing over this video, because i love the soudtracks
i am very excited for this game!!!! i hope that that was a baby yoshi, they are SO CUTE!!!!!
It would be cool to revisit the Tropical Island where you get the Fire and Thunder powers, from Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga. I really liked those.
The dream-rock enemies are called "yumebo", since yume is dream in Japanese, and Goombas are called kuribos in Japanese games, this may roughly translate to "dreambas". Just something to point out.
A fan favorite!? But, yes, he appeared in every game in the series so far, so he's probably gonna end up in there...
Man I always look forward to these analysis videos,thanks for making them!:3
Wow It's A Mix Up From Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story And Mario & Luigi Partners In Time And Mario & Luigi Star Sega In Time For That Baby Yoshi Thingy I Think It's Baby Mario Also Related To Mario & Luigi Partners In Time Too.
a coin pops out of that rock that gets smashed
we don't know if it will be the last boss yet... in superstar saga, we thought it would be cackletta, but it was... something closely related. not going to spoil it.
Phantasma, is Cackletta. Think about it its a big possibility that Cackletta is back
at 4:46 the bird by the window in the battle scene is the same bird that the people were dressing up as and the face of the bird is the face on the temple and banners at 1:30. That battle was also in the dream world so maybe it will be in some of the dream levels and luigi dreams about the bird? or maybe that bird is antasma?
Considering the fact that we saw the Beanish, maybe Antasma is a dream Cackletta or something.
he may come back as an optional boss like how the shroobs did in bowser's inside story
7:10 A red yoshi, definitely, I mean, even the color of its shoes are like a red yoshi's
Yay! A new Villain. :D
That's what it is. Yoshi's are in the game too.
I think the part where he exploded is a better indicator of his run being over...
If he does , he probably won't have a big role. Since he actually explodes in the end of M&LBIS, he'll either never appear, or have a small role. It seems obvious they won't use fawful for a main villain. (Not that's what you meant, anyway)
It seems in 7:21 its the red yoshi. He has the... red... and the blue shoes also. Reminds me of the Yoshi theater.
I guess antasma is a case of definition 3. representing repressed memories of luigi's time as Mr.L
4:46 look at that green block with a L on it i have to ideas about it.
maybe its one of thoughs blocks in bowsers inside story where you hit it back and forth with mario and luigi to get block pieces. 2nd idea maybe its the way to have luigis face activate a area.or 3rd maybe you have to use luigi alone for a part so you use it to just control luigi
Around 3:39 if you look on the ledge, it looks like the cracks in the ground from Super Star Saga that meant there were beans underneath. It could just be a part of the texture though.
Oi, Andre!
May I point out that the Bird is probably some kind of deity that they worship on that island. Here's my logic:
Birds > Feathers > Pillows.
Now if we sprinkle some magic on any of those properties, we get the basis for this game, and I'm assuming it's the Bird, because why else would they celebrate it's existence so fabulously?