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This is the vice I remember watching ~10 years ago. I want more solid journalism with integrity as it's centerpiece.
Before it turned into a liberal propaganda machine
For real this is amazing, now they just get too political
I dont think they magically got their integrity back.
I think theyre probably pulling at heart strings as you probably feel a certain way about the war going on.
I think its probably propaganda made to make us feel a certain way lol.
You just gotta take things with a grain of salt and understand theyre still bad journalists at vice making things to try and sway thoughts of younger people.
They actually listen to their viewers
Like when they did one on Azov battalion and called it a white nationalist militia and Ukraine the capital of neo Nazis
Russian strategists: DOn't tell them you're working for Wagner
Also Russian strategists: Here wear this shirts that say "I'm Wagner"
@@wanderingson Pay attention it was IN THE VIDEO..
western media: here's two things that don't make sense
western midwits: I believe it... I are smart and russia is dum dum
@@wanderingsonBro I’m neutral on this and don’t buy into the propaganda like most westerners, I even support the Russians mission in the east of Donetsk. But having a pfp of Putin and trying to back pedal the video evidence is a bit wild
@@wanderingsonAnd I agree that anything Vice News needs to be taken with a grain of salt. It is extremely biased and if you realize that before you start the video it helps a lot more.
@@wanderingson Did Russia/Putin Progozhin deny that Wagner was a part of Russia's military prior to 2021? Yes or no? Were the people in the video wearing "Je Suis Wagner" Tshirts?
What's your source for news? RT?
June 27, 2023 "'We fully financed this group,' Russian president says. The Wagner Group is fully funded by the Kremlin and received tens of billions of rubles in public money over the past year, Russia's President Vladimir Putin said"
That moment when he asked the lawyer who would execute him was chilling. Looking for how much he knew
That’s what I’m saying! That dude looks like he kills several people a week. He looks constantly ready to jump up and just hammer someone’s face in. I hope the lawyer is okay. I have a suspicion he had some hard times after that. If he is still walking this earth. Or can walk anymore for that matter.
@@Grape59735 they conveniently forgot to touch on Ukraine's connections to white nationalists and self-proclaimed "nazis," such as the azov battalion
@@annunakigaming2207Vice has numerous videos about that bro lol. This video isn't abt Ukraine
@@annunakigaming2207The video is about wagner, not ukraine.
@@annunakigaming2207 That's literally not what the video is about or even relevant, but okay, lmao.
I swear every other video I hear people saying this is the old vice I missed, but to me their documentaries about foreign conflicts and war zones has always been consistently good. Sure they dabbled in weird videos about influencers in LA, but none of their serious reporters associate with their buzzfeed style videos. An organization like vice has many styles and fields of reporting without much overlap, so that’s why quality can vary so severely.
Because TH-cam comments is everyone regurgitating what the top comment(s) say.
It's because their MONEY was being bought for POLITICAL BIAS that they went bankrupt but THESE videos generate real money for them, so they're going back to making what they HAVE been known for making
Vice turned into straight up leftist propaganda for awhile
No they're Left of Lennon when they cover US issues.
“Dabbled” ?? Are you serious their whole channel used to be videos like this now maybe a couple times a year you see good conflict documentaries .
Do you remember when Russia first invaded Crimea that Simon guy had like a 70-80 part documentary series on the conflict ?? And then he was himself kidnapped because the Russians saw it . That was 2014 ish . Warlords of Liberia . All these are old classic documentaries . Even why we fight about the afghan war that only shows the ANA getting high while usa troops are like wtf is even going on.
Now a days it’s like , why is white milk racist ? Why is Trump the biggest threat to McDonald’s ? Why does Mitch McConnell look like a turtle ?
The only way you can truly believe this is if you weren’t acrually around in Vices golden age . Because if you were you’d know that 80% of what they put out is junk compared to back then.
Why do you think they went bankrupt ? They built their media empire on these types or documentaries and when it changed so did the value of the company. THEY WENT BANKRUPT
FOR CHRIST SAKE
Wagner wasnt called in "after the russian military was depleated". Wagner was among the very first wave that went into Ukraine
they were in donetsk before the war started when they denied it. pregoszhyn literally said that in a video. vice are morons
Yup, going back to 2014
Exactly... They literally were the military 😂
Yeah Wagner was in Ukraine before the war even started. The "Pro Russian Separatist" were just Wagner guys.
@@LordDirus007no they weren’t Donetsk peoples republic wasn’t Wagner those were actually separatist we see both of them on the field Wagner (Russia little green men) better equipped etc the separatist would have civil clothing with rusty AKs some of them were fat of skinny you can tell they had zero combat experience
The part where that lawyer from CAR spoke up about killings and then immediately rescinded his comment was tense.
You know he got executed
They threw a journalist in Africa , it might have been the CAR actually , out of his window over a balcony for reporting on Wagner . I’m not surprised he’s nervous
“ so you are scared of who? Me?!”
19 years in prison for what seems like a self defense stabbing is insanity to me as an American
No everyone has the right to self defense
@@originalthundercat4295 all humans do it’s nature to defend yourself animals do it all the time, it’s unnatural to lay down and let yourself get killed or beaten
@@ZetsuboNoShima and some countries put you in prison for 19 years for that
Remember that he can also lie
You don't know all aspects of case. Keep doing fast decisions. You guys so good at it.
Great work. We need more of this type of fact seeking journalism. Asking the right questions, allowing the story to unfold without bias. Really enjoyed this particular subject and would love to see more from Vice in the future.
So basically you wanna see ww3?
Wow, this reminds me of when Vice use to do real journalism. More this Vice!
Uhm, i see these comments on every serious documentary they make. This type of content never stopped, just like every outlet they have their opinion pieces and yellow journalism. Its a huge company
Yeah i agree You gotta give them Credit when it is due. Maybe they learned their lesson about Getting Woke and Going Broke. Good Job VICE
Yeah. Vice News has been doing good reporting for years even if they're often clearly from a left wing perspective. I think a lot of these comments are just from people who think any story critical of conservatives or right wing politics is "fake news" even if its just as accurate as their less political content.
Also, VIce never "went woke" they've been "woke" forever, long before it was repurposed as a meaningless snarl word. And going broke isn't really a thing, "woke" corporations do it because its profitable. If it was actually costing them money then movie studios, tech companies, big brands, etc wouldn't be doing it -- some individuals in the company might care, but as a whole corporations are basically uncaring automatons driven by profit and can't actually give a damn about social issues outside of whether it can make them money: its performative. If pandering to bigots made them more money, the abstract forces of profit motive animating the company would lead to the firing of anyone being "woke" and it would pander to bigots instead, just look at most of the 20th century. But culture, society changes and its now unprofitable. @@lukegaming86
They never stopped.
2 minutes in and the Ukranians are speaking perfect fluent russian😂
I love those longer, deeper researched reports from VICE. You do good, VICE!
Yeah, they're trying to get back to where they once were, but unfortunately for them it's too little too late. These kinda documentaries would easily get millions, sometimes tens of millions of views, and now they only get a small fraction of that ... When a company caters to the vocal minority and ignores 90% of their customers, that's what happens. Disney is going through the same thing. It's why corporations shouldn't get involved in politics.
They're paying the cost of their woke bullshit. And now are owned by a Saudi. Get entertainment from these videos but by no means believe anything
@topspot4834 in the words of Michelle Jordan Republicans buy shoes too
Sure, but who tf can read subtitles that fast and also see what is being shown on the screen. I love Vice, but c'mon, this is ridiculous to try to watch without pausing every five seconds.
Zero criticism of the US empire, US regime change, resource theft, murder, arms sales. Wagner is doing nothing different than Black Water or the United States of America. I wonder why Africa is open arms to partnerships with China and Russia. Because they have been screwed by the west.
Wow. Vice is really back at it. Amazing production.
Not everyone hopping on the "I missed this" train and not actually discussing the information given in the documentary.
This is the VICE style I fell in love with almost a decade ago! I’m sure thousands of people would agree. I love how there is no use of left or right western political biases that we all see in other documentaries for similar global issues. This is raw, talented journalism, amazing editing and storytelling, and most of all - taking risks in conflict areas to tell a powerful story. Amazing work! 👏
Vice is definitely biased , i wonder sometimes if it’s run by cia
They always do great, when it's not focused in the US. If it's in the US, then they cover it exactly like every other left wing mainstream media would. I'm neither on the left or the right though, I hate them pretty equally.
I wish they made a separate channel for US topics. Make this one VICE international.
You’re not going to get a thousand likes. Go to sleep dude!
@@Jason-ty4oj Organic likes? Never. Bot likes? Probably
That’s a ridiculous assertion. Thousands of docs about all topics both right and left that are not biased. of You just don’t want to hear the truth when it comes to what’s happening on the right or the left. Also u don’t want to hear anything about what’s going on in the US and just want to hear about the EVILS outside of our country.
I like the guy off camera thinking he wouldn't be translated 🤭 always a classic
Inside Wagner episode without Wagner 😂😂😂
and so it is with everyone who, for some reason, supports a country that no longer exists. A country .404
They interviewed Wagner for like a third of the episode tho.
@@ahOOliahOOli-ey3bq are you talking about Ukraine? Because 100K Russian soldiers have been killed by an imaginary country apparently 😂
@@barnibussnaples6561 🤡
Incredible video Vice!
Extremely well made. It’s these types of reports that put Vice above the rest. Incredible you could get embedded with Wagner Africa. I have so much respect for the reporter not letting up on hard hitting questions, knowing it very much put her in danger. And to me it looks like that Wagner commander would not have a problem personally erasing her. She is Fearless.
It was all propaganda. The Russians surely checked over her footage before letting her leave. These guys want to seem ruthless. It's all they have left after Ukraine kicked them out of the capitol with a small under funded military.
They drop one good doc every once in awhile as opposed to back in the day it was every video.
Or stupid
FYI , Vice fired this team.
@@Invertmini1212look man I’ll take the occasional old style good vid. It’s still better than most other media groups.
Less bullshit, more of this. Good on you Vice.
Funny this is all bullshit, just pushing bs talking points
This is the bullshit. Ukraine is toast.
It's too old. This was at least 10 months ago. Before the failed offensive and before they lost bahkmut
@@RUTHLESSambition5they never lost bakmut
Amen to that.
26:00 I felt like when he asked the laywer who he felt would kill him, that the unspoken truth was that he was literally asking the lawyer "After you just embarrassed us in front of the western media, who would you suggest I send to your home tonight to come and kill you?" And the way the other africans in the room stared him down as if to say "Not now, we agree but you're going to get us shot."
The way the mercenary glances at the camera, trying to find a way to communicate the severity of his anger in a coded way.
Perhaps I'm overthinking it, but there appears to be layers to this interaction.
That's how I read the situation too. I wonder if the local interpreter was trying to explain to Vitali that he's a lawyer as a way to dismiss him as someone they need to worry about since the legal system of the CAR is practically non-existent. I felt like it all depended on what VICE would publish, so now I fear he is in danger (if he hasn't already been threatened or disappeared)
You could feel the tension through the camera
He's dead for sure
This brings me back to the Vice of 10 years ago. Fantastic work.
Wagner was founded by Dimitri Utkin, who's callsign in the GRU was Wagner, not Prigozhin lol Prigozhin financed and connected Wagner to the Kremlin.
People somehow still see prigozhin as the creator and leader of Wagner lol utkin founded it and some of the main leaders of Wagner are ex KGB members prigozhin was simply the “face” of Wagner he didn’t even had any military background which is why when he did what he did many of the fighters didn’t follows his orders lol
@@4Irico5 where’s Atkin and the rest?
@@moneydroplobby5059 Utkin was on the same plane as Prigozhin was on, alongside some other leadership as well. So effectively leadership was wiped out in a single get go.
@@thekittyspy Neither of them we're the main leaders, Udtkin was meant to cover for the real Military Commander Anton Yelizarov
yeah and utkin is now six feet under
You can tell the instructor in Congo is a ruthless leader that stares cold as ice
Vice making good content again. Great Video
This is the best piece from Vice I've seen in years. Bravo!
Excellent documentary and it's nice to see you guys going back to your roots the last few years.
Hat's off to y'all for this piece. Gotta do more in depth stuff like the old school days more. Plus, y'all shined light on alot of vital information imo! 👍
Nothing new here. Independent news channels have been covering all of this months and years ago. Zero criticism of US empire in this piece. Zero information about US regime change, resource theft, arms deals, murder. Wagner is exactly the same as Black Water and the CIA.
Africa is open arms to China and Russia because they have been screwed over by the United States of America and the west. The world is changing and leaving us behind. VICE is mainstream bought out media.
They still pushing there objective don’t be fooled
@@big2753can you enlighten us on that objective?
@@big2753What objective can they possibly be pushing here? Wagner is not a good group. There are videos of Wagner mercs brutally killing people all over the world. They are literally known for using sledgehammers to kill people.
wow this was a really good documentary. good job vice.
Nice work Vice, nice to have you back 🤗
I can see bankruptcy taught Vice a lesson on content. Glad to see good reporting like this
Am I missing something? They’ve been posting content like this for as long as I’ve followed them
@@bobert6259 Right? No clue what this guy's talking about
@@bobert6259That’s his point. That hard hitting long-form documentaries are Vice’s bread and butter and are more profitable. It was the more comedic stuff like one-star reviews that they have scaled back on in favor of this kind of content as they’ve gone through bankruptcy.
CNN is profitable, Fox News is profitable, nyt has to cut staff, vox relies on donations, and Bloomberg and wsj rely on investors who rely on their services. Reporting on TH-cam alone is…
They never stopped making good content
Vice PLEASE go back to making this kind of content! Incredible geopolitical content that cannot be found anywhere else. I'd pay for a constant stream of this.
Also anyone got an ID on Col. Kiri's fit? 👀
was not expecting something like this from modern day vice. congrats on connecting to your roots.
thank you for all you do. Live long and keep fighting. Brilliant piece and wonderful journalism. Keep the facts straight and the knowledge honest. Stay safe out there
So I guess it's fine commiting warcrimes and killing innocent civilians?
You all have so much courage to go into places like that to get these stories. Incredible.
Last time journalist did researched them, they ended up with new holes.
@@ee-ef8qr Yes we watched the video.
This is what the old vice used to be, we need more content like this
Just look at this way man. The new vice, as you probably have in your head, exists because of a simple fact: no one really pays for journalism anymore. If say, everyone that enjoyed Vice payed $10-20 a month, they could focus on just this material. But because no wants to pay, they have to make tons of clickbaity content that someone like you probably call woke. The clicks then let Vice charge advertisers the money they need to produce pieces like this. They still out stuff like this, never stopped. Just keep in mind that your unwillingness to pay along with most other ppl is why Vice needs to make way more trash than treasure in order to still try to stay afloat.
@@globaladdictthe bigger issues are mismanagement and Disney forcing its woke agenda on them after the buyout
If I could like this a million times I would! Very solid relevant, yet nietche like VICE used to be. I hope the new owners keep this up!
They’re not gonna see your comment pal.
@@globaladdict who’s to say I don’t pay? I’ve donated a couple of times via their website, I think you should go find someone else to try to talk “facts” to cause it isn’t me lol I bet you’ve never donated, I grew up watching vice since day 1 in fact the only news source I ever used for a long time was vice, and you can say it’s because people don’t pay and blah blah blah but the fact of the matter is they have to create click bait content to attract the younger generations, and even then I’m not saying that vice hasn’t been doing a good job cause they’ve been making do however all I’m saying is work like this isn’t that common in vice news like it used to be 👏🏻
Thank you for the introspective.
This is some of the best news I’ve watched in a long time. I remeber watching the Russian Roulette series and now watching this it really brought me back. I love this and it really inspires me to take up journalism as a minor.
"It's better if you take this out, he could be in a lot of trouble." -- Vice keeps it in. Real care for the locals who are obviously being forced to choose silver or lead.
Im pretty sure he was dead after that anyway lol
If he was going to be harmed for saying what was plainly on their shirts then he was toast anyway. At least this way the rest of the world gets the story as a precautionary tale.
@@amphiumaiii7058 ether way its a win win gor people against that group lol
@@amphiumaiii7058 dude is an officer.. guarantee you he got at most a write up..
VICE back in action! Thanks for putting this together.
Its about time. Glad to see vice doing real journalism again
Very good work. Small request if you actually read this. Can you make the subtitles bigger? It's hard to read them on my phone.
Im so glad vice posted this. Im always consuming military content. Private military is always so fun to learn about
Go learn about when delta force and seal team 6 faced off against them in Syria and killed literally hundreds of Wagner I forgot the year… maybe 2018
Just be skeptical. VICE is equivalent to CNN nowadays. They’re worth Pennie’s on the dollar now
@@Hinderrrrrrthey killed 20, not hundreds.
@@HinderrrrrrI believe it was an air strike. No “facing off”.
It was CAS, 4 died. JSOC didn’t want to engage and called the CCTA call the ball.
Wow, that was almost medieval, having local leaders come and praise them, and the one dissenter being immediately challenged.
Takes like this are so stupid
Wow! Outstanding journalism, in yo' face! I loved it. thanks
You guys putting out a banger before closing doors I see.
Excellent Journalism! You could feel the tension in the air when the captured soldier said they surrendered to "Wagner". This gave me older Vice vibes, which to me is a compliment!
That was such a mic-drop moment.
Great job Vice, more like this! this reminds me of the old Vice
Vice you’re the best at these kind of reports. Educated the hell out of me.
this is golden information right here. thanks vice
Damn, wish you guys would have asked the wagner guy more about the battle of Khasham.
При штурме нефтезавода со стороны Вагнера неверно были отценены возможности американцев. По какой то непонятной причине они не учли что, у американцев есть поддержка с воздуха. В течении всего штурма около 3х часов Американцы ОЧЕНЬ ДОЛГО И МНОГО РАЗ связывались с командованием армии России и после очередного ответа "в этой зоне отсутствует армия России" вызвали поддержку с воздуха и разыграли пьесу по американскому учебнику.
Это было больно
Never would I expect the president of CAR to be interviewed by VICE. Journalism at its best.
So many said it already but Vice is amazing.
this is vice this the real journalism the people have been waiting for this to come back for years
THIS IS THE CONTENT VICE IS KNOWN FOR KEEP IT COMING
I wasn't ready for that Svitlana scene. I haven't cried in what feels like years but seeing her face as they talked, wow.
😢
Absolutely phenomenal work
Is VICE finally back with the OG journalism? Let’s gooo! 👏
This intro is stunning
FANTASTIC AND SO WELL DONE!!! NO ONE DOES IT LIKE VICE
excellent presentation
Good reporting!
Now this is the content VICE was built on.
VICE BACK AT IT AGAIN. This is what we want!!
about time you go back to your roots VICE, very well made!
Audio is subpar on this episode.
11:19
Uh oh. That's an interesting patch there buddy.
The Black Sun nazi symbol
history repeats itself
@@MrCRASHERXDNo, it is a sacred solar symbol that is very capacious in its meaning. It is an Old Slavic sign that signifies the process of destroying everything hostile, old and false, and the power and will to renew and reborn. This is a traditional symbol of Ukrainians and some other ethnic groups, which for a long time was the exclusive attribute of priests. And only later it was massively used as a pagan sign to help people survive hard times. That is why in Ukraine it is used as a talisman, not as a Nazi symbol, especially since there are almost no problems with Nazism in Ukraine and they are much less than in many other countries
@@tomtoms3442 the cope grind never stops, I see.
@@user-hl8ih4cd1mtrue, a facist dictator invading a country to kill everyone that isnt a human in thier eyes and putting children into trains.
Wow, one of the best pieces of journalism in a long time. Beautifully done.
Holy crap,… did Vice go back to their roots??? Amazing, just amazing.
He never once tried to overthrow Putin and even said he only wanted to remove the ministry of defense
The “I am Wagner” t-shirt thing was hilarious! You can’t make that stuff up!
it could have been given to them after being captured
Spectacular report!
This is the Vice we've been waiting for.
28:35 damn she snitched on him she signed his death certificate 🤦🏿♂️
Great reporting keep it up!
11:20 black sun patch😬
Shh, let's just go along and pretend that we didn't just see that..
Nazis?
They are not beating the allegations
Far rights fighting in every conflict from both sides, it always was like that, always will be
Based patch
pieces such as this will rejuvenate Vice. Very good work!
Can we all thank vice for being the ones bringing us the real news, even on the brink of death.
They are selling their ass in the form of writing these propaganda rags, yes let’s thank them.
Dude this meetings with the people and Wagner was so obvious that the people were scared shittless to talk out
you guys could do a whole video on that battle he mentioned on Feb 8, 2018. Pretty epic ass kicking.
I love how Vitalii just looks at the camera after he notices it pointing at him when he is confronted with Wagner killings haha
He looked nervous af
Old Vice is back whoa dude
Now do a Documentarie on the 100+ Private military contractors companies in the USA
Vice would be shut down unfortunately. People seem to forget what blackwater did lol 😂 one of the most brutal organizations ever created
@@4Irico5It’s alright though when Blackwater’s founder is best friends with the at the time director of the cia. Apparently you can get away with showing up high to patrol and magdumping civvies. 2006 if you don’t believe me
Pretty sure they did a black water documentary , it was one of their most popular early ones , wasn’t it ??
@@jaredwilliams2357bro those dudes went to prison for that “massacre” it’s hard to prosecute USA civilians for murders in a war zone . Especially when the witnesses are Iraqis who can’t even testify and they have to use affidavits and translators
They've done tons of coverage on it😂
Was the intro instrumentals *supposed* to be louder than the dialogue?
Wow vice is actually doing some reporting? That's awesome!
38:40 Hilarious. Feel bad for this sales rep, for not having taken a course in "lawyer talk" from his Alma Mater. I loved all of his awkward responses, since he seemed to have a "knowing" tone in his voice, like everything that was coming out of his mouth was 110% military industrial complex bullshit, and he's somehow a middle man to all this stupid crap. Then his boss came along and ruined it all like a Japanese boss. "Why can't you answer vaguely?"
I don’t understand how you make a Wagner documentary and leave out Utkin. I know Prigozhin was the media facing founder, but Utkin was a behind the scenes ideolog for the racism and nat see beliefs. Which is also why it is hilarious that Russia claims to be de natsifying Ukraine while employing groups like Wagner and Rusich.
FANTASTIC REPORT - THANK YOU FOR SHARING .. THE EMBEDDED CORRESPONDENT IS 'TOP SHELF'
agree with what everyone else is saying. i honestly wasn't expecting a return to form like that.
SWAGNER PMC 🔥
Vice has always had real journalism at its core. I've been a fan for years. Keep doing the real work!
Wow an actual instance of journalism. Make Vice vice again
This is the type of vice I remember please keep it up!!!
I’m glad to see that a lot of this focused on CAR and their clients in Africa. The stories from Ukraine and the mutiny/Prigozhin’s death aren’t news to most people, but CAR is already a place your average westerner knows little about. I’m surprised at some of the stuff you had access to…think I’m most surprised they let those guys wear “je suis Wagner” shirts, with the whole “Russian instructors” thing to try to have some thin screen of plausible deniability.
26:04 That stare at the camera... you just know this "instructor" is malevolent.
well that makes sense right?
Do you want some chill hippy loving guy training your armies to destroy the enemy?
If you want to win, you get the malevolent guy to train your armies.
@@petrol_prophetyou get the point lmao the dude who made the malevolent comment deff likes to watch his girl play basketball while he sits in the corner
@@Parkslopekid233 BRO LIKES TO WATCH HES GF GET POUNDED BY BLACK MEN
Damn it's been a while since I've seen such a good VICE documentary! This was almost like a James Bond movie... kinda creepy considering this is real
Great documentary this is the old vice we want back
RIP Colonel Kiri, VICE snitched on you 😂
This is how vice used to be... glad to see they're back, even if it's just for now.
Holy crap is old Vice back ? I was scared for her every step of the way. Every plane she got on
Audio levels are messed up in the intro
Glad to see this guy playing Playstation during his interview. Very believable defector.