I have the 12,500 watt model for several years in my 26’x 36’ shop garage, 10’ ceiling and insulated and it does a great job. I’m very satisfied with it.
I have the same one I bought from Menards, I use it in my attached third bay of my garage that I use as my shop. Works good and the thermostat does work well. I am in NW Ohio and a mini split with the hyper heat was to expensive.
Electric is nice because it's up off the floor and doesn't take up any space so it's not in the way. I have the 5000 watt unit in my 25'x36' shop. I use a Dyna Glo torpedo heater to get the shop up to temp when it's below freezing (takes about 15 minutes) and let the electric maintain the temp. It's quiet and doesn't have to run so often to keep me toasty!
I just acquired a 4 car garage with ¾" plywood on insulated walls and need to replace the the one usable non-insolated 16' wide door but even with all the air leaks and half the ceiling full high my Venor 7500 watt electric heater works pretty well to warm it up. I have 2 jobsite hybrid fans blowing the heat from the ceiling down to assist and use a 9000btu Mr. Heater to help jump start it when I first go out, if needed. Haven't got my 1st bill yet so I don't know the cost of running it but it only cost about $150, (that's about $100 less than the 5k watt mdl offered at HD), + about $150 for the wire, conduit, breaker and whatnot. Installed it myself in under 3 hours taking my time. Only draws 22 amps on high and has some smart technology built in with an infrared remote. Electric is clean and easy though here in So. Cal. isn't super cheap but probably cheaper than lp as my alternative at almost $4 per gal in the winter. Thanks for the update on your heater. Being the same size as mine gives me a good idea of how mine will treat me. 👍👍 A couple extra thumbs up for being informative.
@@k6outdoorsFunny how I just ordered, received & installed a garage heater and garage heater videos start popping up. Sure makes one think somebody is ease dropping. I'm glad I came across your channel. You certainly have given me some things to think about. Looking a bit into your heater I'm sure it's much more intelligent than mine. The auto changeover between high & low is a really good deal. Mine is only switchable on the unit or remote. I do like that it's only drawing 22 amps instead of 32 which 7500 watts should be pulling which makes me wonder if infact it truly is 7500 but for now it's going to have to do. Not looking forward to my next power bill. Luckily we don't get as cold as you. I couldn't afford to run it all the time, CA is just way too expensive Keep up the good work. I'll be looking at more of your content.
I have the Dyna-Glo 7500W heater and it has issues. When it works, it works great. The issue is the heater elements. If you use it a moderate amount, the elements will last you 3-4 months. You start losing elements one by one. You will notice the heater runs longer, pulls less current than before, and puts out less heat. I am on my second heater from warranty, and this one has lost 75% of its elements within 4 months too. I am looking at the King heaters now. Yes they are more expensive, but I want something that will last.
Hello from Hudson Valley NY. Great information. Subscribed immediately! Reviews on amazon state loud clicking noise from heater some periodically some continuous. Have you experienced this at anytime. Also is the remote line of sight? Is there app support where you can turn on/off,adjust temp,check on status of heater,auto shut off due to error codes? Would you change your mounting location for any reason? Or have you? Apologies for the list but you look like the most informed on this product and other methods of heating. Hopefully yes no answers Any response would be greatly appreciated. Stay well, God bless to you and your family.
Hey thanks for stopping in! The clicking noise is from the auto high and low to save power, it honestly doesn't bother me. I would presume the remote is line using some type of IR transmission. The only app support you have is if you buy a smart thermostat for the eco+ which is what i have and love it (I don't use the remote then). Error codes would be linked directly to the owners manual. Haven't changed the mounting location and continues to work great! Hope this all helps!
@ wow thank you for the quick response Yes it is very helpful I’ll look into the thermostat Hopefully you have a review on your channel. But I’ll look around cot it any way Thanks again
Yep, i have several in the "electric heat" playlist (th-cam.com/play/PLjpX-3R7-9sftqshAznLPE-QCSO72x8aO.html) or you can search through my various videos. Here is a link to the ecobee install specifically. th-cam.com/video/ilmQY7HVzJM/w-d-xo.html
The Mitsubishi Hyper Heat ductless units are good down to -13 degrees Fahrenheit. They are 200% to 300% more efficient than an electric heater. The downside is you would really need to hold the shop at 63 degrees 24/7. It's only good for a well sealed and insulated garage or shop. They are also a lot more expensive up front but you do get AC as well.
You are correct, those ductless units are much more efficient and expensive but like you said they also have AC!! Unfortunately, here in Iowa we do see temps lower than -13 degrees and many people that have ductless units have some type of supplemental heat. Im looking at adding a ductless unit to the shop for AC so it would be good to compare performance! Thanks for stopping in
@@k6outdoors I think your best bet is the Mitsubishi Hyper Heat ductless. I haven't seen any other brand with about 90% heat performance at -13. You might need another heat source when it's crazy cold. I'm guessing you only have a week or two of temperatures that cold.
Mitsubishi is probably the best manufacturer of mini-splits and the technology is sooo much greater than when I did A/C 20 years ago. The benefit of both heating & cooling from the same unit is very convenient and they're an easy install. I'll probably be putting one in before summer hits. Just can't swing the funds at the moment. I'll keep the Hyper Heat in mind for when I'm ready.
@@markm3.16 It all depends on where you live. If it's a cold climate then the Mitsubishi FS Hyper Heat is the way to go. If you never get below 15 degrees the GL or GS units will be perfect.
In your installation video, you installed an Eco 2S model. Now you have the Eco 2S Plus model. Why did you upgrade from the 2S? What's the difference between the two units besides having a remote thermostat?
The main reason I upgraded is because King Electric offered to send me a unit of the newer more advanced model. The main difference is the 2s+ has remote thermostat/ compatibility with the ecobee/nest and the additional remote sensor. I hope this helps, thanks for stopping in!
I bought a 10,000 watt model for a two car garage (20x19 8 feet high) that’s fully insulated(less the garage door). Will it keep a temp of 60 degrees for a garage gym? I bought a bit larger of a unit. King recommend 5000-7500 watts.
@trollzone1 the machine can be turned on and off from the remote or front on the unit. To have to completely dead (like most electrical) is but have the breaker shut off.
Mini split with heat strips would do better. The efficiency would only drop to exactly what you’re using now in extreme conditions. But they are better left running to maintain temps than recoup.
Definitely a good overall option but is arguably much harder of an install for a DIY project and are much more expensive. I know there is some DIY ones out there for $1500 but if you pay $3000-$4000 to have one installed it will take long time to recoup that investment in cost. Technically electric heat is 100% efficient as every watt is turned into heat, however per btu the cost of electric heat is higher because of the cost of electricity, unless you have solar as I do. Thanks for stopping in!
Wood stove in a garage can cause all sorts of problems. A lot of insurance companies will not cover a garage with a wood stove in it if you store any gasoline powered equipment in it at all. When I built my shop I checked with my insurance they told me that if I had a heat source that did not have the flame at least 8' from the floor I could not store anything gas powered or even fuel cans in it. Not only would the insurance be null and void on the shop but, also on the entire property!
This unit does not come with a wall mount thermostat, but it is compatible with one. I cannot speak from experience, but I have had many comments on how people have bought the cheaper units, and they tend to not last. Over 3 heating seasons with mine being used as primary heat, keeping my shop above freezing and I have yet to experience any issues. I hope this helps, thanks for stopping in!
Thanks for the video, i live in the quad cities and have been looking to heat my garage. My garage is 22x14 all insulated + insulated garage door. 10' ceiling, what size electric heater would you recommend? Thanks
Hey thanks for stopping in! I'd think the 5000 watt model would work fine. If you were wanting to be safe you could always just up to the 7500 watt version! King Electric 5,000W 240V Heavy Duty Digital Forced Air Electric Garage Heater at Menards® www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/heaters/electric-garage-heaters/king-electric-240v-heavy-duty-digital-forced-air-electric-garage-heater/kb2405-1-b2-eco/p-1461692446960-c-6328.htm
Yes it's definitely a consideration you have to take, which is why I mentioned rate cost. On average across the US, electricity is about $0.16 per kwh. As mentioned electric is not for everyone but other options also carry operational cost as well. Thanks for stopping in!
@hellothere-pd9zc definitely depends where your at, cutting wood in November and December is not out of the question where I live. Thanks for stopping in
I have the 12,500 watt model for several years in my 26’x 36’ shop garage, 10’ ceiling and insulated and it does a great job. I’m very satisfied with it.
I appreciate you sharing your experience with your heater! Thanks for stopping in!
hi, in the uk that would cost approx £3.75 uk $4.75 us per hour cheers Geoff.
Thanks so much. Needed something for Minnesota winter and this checks out.
Hey thanks for stopping in, I appreciate it!
I have the same one I bought from Menards, I use it in my attached third bay of my garage that I use as my shop. Works good and the thermostat does work well. I am in NW Ohio and a mini split with the hyper heat was to expensive.
For the price and performance it is hard to beat!
Glad to see a fellow iowan hello from central des moines
@placerunner4197 hello from the Iowa city area! Thanks for stopping in!
That’s some good info. And I like to see what people are doing and how they are heating.
Thanks for stopping in!
Electric is nice because it's up off the floor and doesn't take up any space so it's not in the way. I have the 5000 watt unit in my 25'x36' shop. I use a Dyna Glo torpedo heater to get the shop up to temp when it's below freezing (takes about 15 minutes) and let the electric maintain the temp. It's quiet and doesn't have to run so often to keep me toasty!
Thanks for sharing your use case! It's always nice to be toasty working in the shop! Thanks for stopping in!
I just acquired a 4 car garage with ¾" plywood on insulated walls and need to replace the the one usable non-insolated 16' wide door but even with all the air leaks and half the ceiling full high my Venor 7500 watt electric heater works pretty well to warm it up. I have 2 jobsite hybrid fans blowing the heat from the ceiling down to assist and use a 9000btu Mr. Heater to help jump start it when I first go out, if needed.
Haven't got my 1st bill yet so I don't know the cost of running it but it only cost about $150, (that's about $100 less than the 5k watt mdl offered at HD), + about $150 for the wire, conduit, breaker and whatnot. Installed it myself in under 3 hours taking my time. Only draws 22 amps on high and has some smart technology built in with an infrared remote.
Electric is clean and easy though here in So. Cal. isn't super cheap but probably cheaper than lp as my alternative at almost $4 per gal in the winter.
Thanks for the update on your heater. Being the same size as mine gives me a good idea of how mine will treat me.
👍👍 A couple extra thumbs up for being informative.
I appreciate you stopping in! Definitely crazy how utilities vary so much state to state, sounds like you have a good plan.
@@k6outdoorsFunny how I just ordered, received & installed a garage heater and garage heater videos start popping up. Sure makes one think somebody is ease dropping.
I'm glad I came across your channel. You certainly have given me some things to think about. Looking a bit into your heater I'm sure it's much more intelligent than mine. The auto changeover between high & low is a really good deal. Mine is only switchable on the unit or remote. I do like that it's only drawing 22 amps instead of 32 which 7500 watts should be pulling which makes me wonder if infact it truly is 7500 but for now it's going to have to do. Not looking forward to my next power bill. Luckily we don't get as cold as you. I couldn't afford to run it all the time, CA is just way too expensive
Keep up the good work. I'll be looking at more of your content.
Planning on getting one for garage as we have a FitMax exercise pool & little heat in the winter would be nice. I will use your link to buy it.
I think you will be very happy with your purchase, thanks for the support and happy holidays!
I have the Dyna-Glo 7500W heater and it has issues. When it works, it works great. The issue is the heater elements. If you use it a moderate amount, the elements will last you 3-4 months. You start losing elements one by one. You will notice the heater runs longer, pulls less current than before, and puts out less heat. I am on my second heater from warranty, and this one has lost 75%
of its elements within 4 months too. I am looking at the King heaters now. Yes they are more expensive, but I want something that will last.
So far I've had great luck with them and they are worth the investment in my opinion. Thanks for stopping in!
King makes a good electric heater. For the low upfront install costs an electric heater can make a lot of sense.
I agree 100%
Hello from Hudson Valley NY. Great information. Subscribed immediately!
Reviews on amazon state loud clicking noise from heater some periodically some continuous.
Have you experienced this at anytime.
Also is the remote line of sight?
Is there app support where you can turn on/off,adjust temp,check on status of heater,auto shut off due to error codes?
Would you change your mounting location for any reason? Or have you?
Apologies for the list but you look like the most informed on this product and other methods of heating. Hopefully yes no answers
Any response would be greatly appreciated.
Stay well, God bless to you and your family.
Hey thanks for stopping in! The clicking noise is from the auto high and low to save power, it honestly doesn't bother me. I would presume the remote is line using some type of IR transmission. The only app support you have is if you buy a smart thermostat for the eco+ which is what i have and love it (I don't use the remote then). Error codes would be linked directly to the owners manual. Haven't changed the mounting location and continues to work great! Hope this all helps!
@ wow thank you for the quick response
Yes it is very helpful
I’ll look into the thermostat
Hopefully you have a review on your channel.
But I’ll look around cot it any way
Thanks again
Yep, i have several in the "electric heat" playlist (th-cam.com/play/PLjpX-3R7-9sftqshAznLPE-QCSO72x8aO.html) or you can search through my various videos. Here is a link to the ecobee install specifically. th-cam.com/video/ilmQY7HVzJM/w-d-xo.html
The Mitsubishi Hyper Heat ductless units are good down to -13 degrees Fahrenheit. They are 200% to 300% more efficient than an electric heater. The downside is you would really need to hold the shop at 63 degrees 24/7. It's only good for a well sealed and insulated garage or shop. They are also a lot more expensive up front but you do get AC as well.
You are correct, those ductless units are much more efficient and expensive but like you said they also have AC!! Unfortunately, here in Iowa we do see temps lower than -13 degrees and many people that have ductless units have some type of supplemental heat. Im looking at adding a ductless unit to the shop for AC so it would be good to compare performance! Thanks for stopping in
@@k6outdoors I think your best bet is the Mitsubishi Hyper Heat ductless. I haven't seen any other brand with about 90% heat performance at -13. You might need another heat source when it's crazy cold. I'm guessing you only have a week or two of temperatures that cold.
Mitsubishi is probably the best manufacturer of mini-splits and the technology is sooo much greater than when I did A/C 20 years ago.
The benefit of both heating & cooling from the same unit is very convenient and they're an easy install. I'll probably be putting one in before summer hits. Just can't swing the funds at the moment.
I'll keep the Hyper Heat in mind for when I'm ready.
@@markm3.16 It all depends on where you live. If it's a cold climate then the Mitsubishi FS Hyper Heat is the way to go. If you never get below 15 degrees the GL or GS units will be perfect.
In your installation video, you installed an Eco 2S model. Now you have the Eco 2S Plus model. Why did you upgrade from the 2S? What's the difference between the two units besides having a remote thermostat?
The main reason I upgraded is because King Electric offered to send me a unit of the newer more advanced model. The main difference is the 2s+ has remote thermostat/ compatibility with the ecobee/nest and the additional remote sensor. I hope this helps, thanks for stopping in!
I bought a 10,000 watt model for a two car garage (20x19 8 feet high) that’s fully insulated(less the garage door). Will it keep a temp of 60 degrees for a garage gym? I bought a bit larger of a unit. King recommend 5000-7500 watts.
I would certainly think it'll do the job!
@@k6outdoorscool thanks. I got an electrician setting it up next week.
@@k6outdoors out of curiosity is the only way to turn off the unit at the circuit box?
@trollzone1 the machine can be turned on and off from the remote or front on the unit. To have to completely dead (like most electrical) is but have the breaker shut off.
@@k6outdoors how do you turn it off at the remote? I’m only able to keep it at 45 deg. I don’t see anything in the manual
Just what i was looking for. Im in iowa aswell
Great to hear! Hope your staying warm! We are almost through this initial cold snap!
@@k6outdoors it's definitely getting old!
Mini split with heat strips would do better. The efficiency would only drop to exactly what you’re using now in extreme conditions. But they are better left running to maintain temps than recoup.
Definitely a good overall option but is arguably much harder of an install for a DIY project and are much more expensive. I know there is some DIY ones out there for $1500 but if you pay $3000-$4000 to have one installed it will take long time to recoup that investment in cost. Technically electric heat is 100% efficient as every watt is turned into heat, however per btu the cost of electric heat is higher because of the cost of electricity, unless you have solar as I do. Thanks for stopping in!
Wood stove in a garage can cause all sorts of problems. A lot of insurance companies will not cover a garage with a wood stove in it if you store any gasoline powered equipment in it at all. When I built my shop I checked with my insurance they told me that if I had a heat source that did not have the flame at least 8' from the floor I could not store anything gas powered or even fuel cans in it. Not only would the insurance be null and void on the shop but, also on the entire property!
Insurance really is a huge influence on the decision making, they have rules and for good reason! Thanks for sharing and stopping in!
I looked up the model KB2407-1-B2-ECO but it cost 4 times more than other 240V ceiling heaters. Does it have a separate wall mount thrmostat?
This unit does not come with a wall mount thermostat, but it is compatible with one. I cannot speak from experience, but I have had many comments on how people have bought the cheaper units, and they tend to not last. Over 3 heating seasons with mine being used as primary heat, keeping my shop above freezing and I have yet to experience any issues. I hope this helps, thanks for stopping in!
hi, in the uk that would cost approx £3.75 uk $4.75 us per hour cheers Geoff.
Wow, what a difference in utility rates! That's for sharing!
Thanks for the video, i live in the quad cities and have been looking to heat my garage. My garage is 22x14 all insulated + insulated garage door. 10' ceiling, what size electric heater would you recommend? Thanks
Hey thanks for stopping in! I'd think the 5000 watt model would work fine. If you were wanting to be safe you could always just up to the 7500 watt version!
King Electric 5,000W 240V Heavy Duty Digital Forced Air Electric Garage Heater at Menards® www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/heaters/electric-garage-heaters/king-electric-240v-heavy-duty-digital-forced-air-electric-garage-heater/kb2405-1-b2-eco/p-1461692446960-c-6328.htm
@@k6outdoors thanks!!
Price of Electric really should be the real reason yes or no ! Pa. is =.19$ per KWHR & NYC its now =.39$ per KWH
Yes it's definitely a consideration you have to take, which is why I mentioned rate cost. On average across the US, electricity is about $0.16 per kwh. As mentioned electric is not for everyone but other options also carry operational cost as well. Thanks for stopping in!
I rent a shop and am unable to add fuel sources to the building. Electric is all I’m allowed to install
To be fair you cut wood in the fall, definately not in the winter.
@hellothere-pd9zc definitely depends where your at, cutting wood in November and December is not out of the question where I live. Thanks for stopping in
What size ?
7500 watts, thanks for stopping in
Dude my electric bill would be deathly. My heat pump costs me a fortune to run.
Definitely have to consider your local utility rates! Thanks for stopping in
Electric is 100 percent efficient and all other furnaces require a fan witch uses electricity
@chadkarels3981 correct, the only difference is electric is higher "fuel" input costs. Thanks for stopping in!