...Kinda. I guess it WAS released, if you count its use in the demo discs? But then again, kinda not? Ehhh? Join this channel to get access to perks: / @skawo
Using a slow, unfinished and bloaty web renderer to replace native UIs, 15 years before Electron became widely accepted. Nintendo truly was ahead of their time (in the worst way possible)
This is so weird. Just a few days ago I was going through these discs, noticed one of them had a "library" section that looked as if it were a web browser, and while searching for other information, came across an article confirming it. And now this video comes along. Crazy timing.
3:04 oh man, I absolutely ADORE the way that unused on-screen keyboard looks! Reminds me a lot of Pikmin 1 and 2's text boxes/UI, or the Aqua theme from early Mac OS X (specifically the 10.0 "Cheetah" to 10.4 "Tiger" era.) I miss how shiny UI used to look...
Robby’s game garage actually made a joke video about a microsoft web browser disk for the gamecube where you could do stuff that you could do on a windows computer
They did it during the Wii era too - the Wii System Settings menu is actually just a bunch of HTML files being displayed in a cut-down version of the Opera browser (which is also the basis for the standalone Internet Channel and the DS Web Browser cart.) If your System Settings get corrupted (usually when homebrew goes wrong) then there's a chance you'll see an Opera error screen pop up when entering the Wii System Settings. The 3DS Miiverse app was __also__ all done in HTML, while the Wii U version had a custom-built app. Meaning that Miiverse on the 3DS was kinda slow and clunky at times...
the joys of early internet. Does that mean these pages are hosted somewhere or are they just loaded on the fly? Could we load these in a browser today?
Well, it's the GameCube. There's no guarantee there'll be any internet access at all (and in fact that situation is rare, if anything). And as the video says, this thing _can't_ connect to the internet with any known internet adapter for the GameCube. So yeah the webpages are just on the disc.
Huh I definitely noticed the lag but would NOT have guessed it was literally just web code. The huge lag reminded me of another instance of that in the demo discs - I noticed one of the demo discs had a Mario vs Donkey Kong demo -- a GBA game. It does run but iirc had like a metric ton of input lag to the point of being unplayable, at least on Dolphin. Any documentation on that?
Nope. The Wii browser is Opera, actually. The 3DS, Wii U, and Switch browsers are based on Netfront Browser NX (Netfront is a series of browsers for embedded systems, including several other game consoles).
@@jutorle As one of the few people in the world who genuinely tried to use the 3DS internet browser app to view TH-cam videos in the past several months, this is relevant to me
Using a slow, unfinished and bloaty web renderer to replace native UIs, 15 years before Electron became widely accepted. Nintendo truly was ahead of their time (in the worst way possible)
This is so weird. Just a few days ago I was going through these discs, noticed one of them had a "library" section that looked as if it were a web browser, and while searching for other information, came across an article confirming it. And now this video comes along. Crazy timing.
Mario and Luigi being the first game shown will probably be a moment never topped for me
You have the wrong video but the right attitude
3:04 oh man, I absolutely ADORE the way that unused on-screen keyboard looks! Reminds me a lot of Pikmin 1 and 2's text boxes/UI, or the Aqua theme from early Mac OS X (specifically the 10.0 "Cheetah" to 10.4 "Tiger" era.) I miss how shiny UI used to look...
all rise for our national Skawo Misc Upload
wait that’s actually crazy I didn’t know that was a thing
Robby’s game garage actually made a joke video about a microsoft web browser disk for the gamecube where you could do stuff that you could do on a windows computer
Good ole Nintendo using web browsers to display menus
That's why the Switch eShop lags so much, guess some things never change
Funnily enough, that came to mind for me, too. The eShop thing, I mean. Didn't know Nintendo was doing that a long time before.
They did it during the Wii era too - the Wii System Settings menu is actually just a bunch of HTML files being displayed in a cut-down version of the Opera browser (which is also the basis for the standalone Internet Channel and the DS Web Browser cart.) If your System Settings get corrupted (usually when homebrew goes wrong) then there's a chance you'll see an Opera error screen pop up when entering the Wii System Settings.
The 3DS Miiverse app was __also__ all done in HTML, while the Wii U version had a custom-built app. Meaning that Miiverse on the 3DS was kinda slow and clunky at times...
0:57 random half-life 2 sample!
Is the music that plays on these from something? Or was it made specifically for these menus?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
its pretty groovy, maybe you could upload the song somewhere?
The fact the GameCube was planned to have a web browser and the Switch still doesn't have one. 💀
the joys of early internet. Does that mean these pages are hosted somewhere or are they just loaded on the fly? Could we load these in a browser today?
Well, it's the GameCube. There's no guarantee there'll be any internet access at all (and in fact that situation is rare, if anything). And as the video says, this thing _can't_ connect to the internet with any known internet adapter for the GameCube. So yeah the webpages are just on the disc.
Huh I definitely noticed the lag but would NOT have guessed it was literally just web code.
The huge lag reminded me of another instance of that in the demo discs - I noticed one of the demo discs had a Mario vs Donkey Kong demo -- a GBA game. It does run but iirc had like a metric ton of input lag to the point of being unplayable, at least on Dolphin. Any documentation on that?
It's a working GBA emulator. You can replace the ROM it uses, as long as it's
I suppose they used this as a sort of prototype to build off of when making the internet browsers for the Wii onward?
Nope. The Wii browser is Opera, actually. The 3DS, Wii U, and Switch browsers are based on Netfront Browser NX (Netfront is a series of browsers for embedded systems, including several other game consoles).
could you say what music was used in this video?
It's just the music present in the shown demo disc.
th-cam.com/video/lQSIR0qRE_k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=RAAlxA2XLgAS2Z-C
that menu was made entirely in http...
these people were WEIRD
huh, I wonder why they never finished this?
...Eh, maybe the gamecube just couldn't really handle it even at the time.
Wasn't planetweb also on the dreamcast
idk if you werd paying attention, but he literally says that at around 2:13
F4mi made a video about this as well
The web browser, not the functionality and stuff
F4mi moment
it would be really funny if nintendo ported this to the switch
The 3DS had a peculiar thing similar to this using the TH-cam app...
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The 3DS just had a normal browser :v
@@Skawo I mean, one that let you watch videos outside the boundaries of TH-cam
@@jutorle As one of the few people in the world who genuinely tried to use the 3DS internet browser app to view TH-cam videos in the past several months, this is relevant to me