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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2024
- The N64 and PS1 are both beloved consoles of the 5th generation. Though, only one of them can be on the top. In this video I'll go through the history of these two consoles, their hardware, sales, background information and games to determine which one of these two brilliant systems is just that much better.
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Back in the day I sold my PlayStation to get an N64 and never regretted it. These days though, I realise just how good a system the PlayStation was, and I do wish I'd at least kept it alongside my N64. Both great systems, but I feel like the PS1 holds up better in many ways. The pop-in, fog and low-res textures on N64 really don't do it full justice in 2024. Although the controller always was and still is awesome, no matter who tries to claim otherwise. With PlayStation, it's really only those pixelated textures that let it down imo, but I think those have certain charm of their own now. There's not really any games on PS1 that I personally rate up there with very best on N64 like GoldenEye, Perfect Dark and Ocarina of Time, but there are just so many still great games that it's hard to in all fairness have a handful of great N64 games override loads of really good PS1 games. I'm just gonna go with a tie. :-o
Today, it's all down to preference, and that's fine. I put quite a bit of emphasis on price and game availability, mainly because I'm looking at it from a perspective that's grounded in that era. So, it made sense to go for the nintendo if you preferred their first party offerings over everything on playstation. And many people did, and I can definitely see why they chose so. But, to a new consumer, who wasn't that into Nintendo in the 90s, the playstation seemed like a far more interesting option, which is what I was trying to get at.
PS1 has more iconic games, and the programmers used beautiful prerendered back grounds much more often. N64 has good 3D platforming, and collectathons which get old after a while, it had good shooters, but so does PS1. RPG fans love Playstation way more, there's tons of RPGs on that system, not to mention alot of popular arcade fighting games on the Playstation. So I prefer Playstation although some games were really cool on the N64.
Yeah, the PSOne absolutely cleaned house and with good reason. It had a massive library of games you couldn't get anywhere else. Often if a game was ported between the platforms? With rare exception, the PSOne version ended up being the best one to get between that and the N64 counterpart.
The Saturn was the third pony in this two horse race. Shame because the Saturn was a great system that could pull arcade perfect ports of most Capcom games and was a 2D powerhouse.
This was made evident in the later years of that generation with games like X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Street Fighter Alpha 3, etc. It was quite amazing noticing the stark differences between the Saturn and PSOne versions of these games.
However, in terms of scope, genres and variety? PSOne pulled everything off in spades. Especially in terms of action, RPG and others. Plus housing some of the best games of all time? Yeah, it was without a doubt the king of the ring for the generation.
I grew up with the N64, in retrospect the PS1 had way more variety but that's not too surprising considering the N64 was the start of Nintendo's whole era of basically coasting on their own games for their home consoles while the real Nintendo devices you wanted was actually their portables. I also like the N64 for a more shallow reason, I love Nintendo's habit of making the system in a variety of cool and cute colors. Plus the N64 was the local multiplayer party system that was something Nintendo did have over Sony and Microsoft for a while. It's easy to dismiss Mario Party or Smash Bros or Goldeneye but those games and the social gatherings you could have with them were huge.
Another thing about the N64, especially when it comes to playing them now is that they're slowly being ported to PC with the most popular games already having great fan projects (Mario 64 or the Zeldas) or official ports like what we've seen with Turok or they already had PC version at the time like Star Wars Shadows of the Empire. And ignoring the PC, a lot of the other games that are popular got better versions on more accessible consoles like how the N64 Zeldas got put on the much more popular 3DS or the newest Pokemon Snap on Switch or depending on your taste with writing Paper Mario TTYD on Gamecube and now Switch.
When it comes to the N64 the only games that don't have a PC release/other console release (I'm not going to count Nintendo Switch Online) that I would recommend is Treasure's Sin and Punishment which also got a decent sequel on the Wii. I briefly played Mischief Makers and that was okay.
I love the N64 but there's a reason why after the Wii, I went to the PC since variety is what I wanted. Plus, ROM hacks/fan PC ports make the N64 games better than ever. I love the Zelda series and I do prefer them over Mario and a lot of the 3D platformers of the time but Nintendo's biggest failure is the small details, they're horrible with online and hardware decisions still. They're a lot better now with more inclusive marketing plus they finally doubled down on their excellent portable systems that Sony couldn't touch like that did in the home console market but now the Steam Deck exists.
My favourite N64 game is Starcraft 64, personally :b
The thing with the N64 is that while it definitely had some very good first party games, Sony just had far more equally good games, and that's kind of what bugs me the most tbh. It's how often I see people dumb down the mid/late 90s as "mario, banjo and zelda", when it's so much more. But instead, I often see people just dismissing a lot of the 90s output on other platforms as 'archaic', when not only have those games aged pretty similarly to Nintendo's output, but simultaneously people will shit on the games they dislike while not being even slightly critical of the games they like. Like how we've seen it with how people will make fun of Sonic adventure 1/2, but get very defensive about sunshine.
I just want more people to actually take a bite out of the Playstation cake and realize how much fun stuff they're missing out on.
@@Kurriochi I actually do have an interesting theory about why people treat the PS1 and Saturn as "archaic". I think there might be a seriously massive emulation bias. I love Silent Hill and have played it on emulator I remembered it being pretty accurate almost to a fault meanwhile playing Ocarina of Time on emulator vs console is like a whole different experience. Like any blurriness you might expect from that game is erased and the game looks extremely crisp even on older early 00 PCs. Maybe I might be wrong since I've mostly emulated cartoony games like Parappa/Lammy and more dark games that used the PS1's limitations well like Silent Hill, maybe emulation is capable of clearing up PS1 games too.
I suspect a lot of people are playing N64 games on emulator for accessibility reasons, like high used game prices, incompatible tvs, etc. The N64 is one console that seems to get a pretty huge glow-up from emulation, similar to the 3DS now that I think about it, you can tell when someone is emulating Majora's Mask or Ocarina of Time on TH-cam since the image is way too clear. Also modern N64 controller recreations are closer in line to Xbox controllers if you're talking about PC controllers for emulation complete with modern joysticks. In fact, even N64 fans aren't big fans of NSO's releases since they often feel too old compared to emulation.
Playing an N64 game today the way many people do now likely does feel way more modern compared to say a simple remaster on a modern console like what we seen on Playstations, but that also means that even someone like me is arguing in favor of the N64 that didn't exist in the 90s.
The Steam Deck exists but it is a niche device and does not have and will never have the mainstream appeal of Nintendo and the Nintendo Switch. That’s all I’ll say.
@@Kurriochithat was the best flying and rail shooter in its library. One of the best in its generation.
@@noireisbest6786 Playing on actual hardware on a CRT tv I dont think its evident at all that the N64 was more powerful than the PS1. The games all looked very comparable imo. If anything the most noticeable differences were in the PS1s favour ie the superior audio and FMVs.
There was more experimentation on the PS1. Developers weren't afraid to try new things that's why the variety of PS1 games is ridiculous. N64 basically had just Nintendo stuff. The stranglehold Nintendo had on 3rd party games in the 80s and early 90s was gone and Sony benefitted.
Both systems were great. Both were unique. Both had tons of awesome, revolutionary games. Both had innovative hardware. Both were so much better than today's consoles.
I never really did get into the N64 past Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, and Goldeneye before I sold it and went back to the PlayStation.
I bought the PlayStation at launch and didn't keep it for very long after the N64 released as I wanted to play Mario 64, so I part exchanged the PlayStation for the N64 back in 1996. Once I had finished Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, and Goldeneye, there wasn't really much out at the time, making it worth keeping. I later part exchanged it for another PlayStation and never looked at the N64 again.
I never had the system when games like Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, Zelda Ocarina of Time, Zelda Majora's Mask, Perfect Dark l, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Starfox 64, F-Zero X, Paper Mario, Diddy Kong Racing, Donkey Kong 64 etc. This is what made me get rid of it since what it had before said games released wasn't that good at all, apart from the 3 games I had the system for.
When I went back to PlayStation, I was playing games like Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy IX, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo, Resident Evil series, Crash Bandicoot series etc, the N64's library wasn't even close to that of the PlayStation's. Outside of about 20-25 games, the N64 wasn't worth owning for me.
Was the same for me other than mario 64 and a couple other games I wanted to play I switched back to
As much as I loved Nintendo at the time, I was absolutely crushed that they chose cartridges over CDs. I eventually lost interest after all of the delays. Playstation wins, I'm sorry. The game studios had so many more creative possibilities with CDs. The PS1 was also easier to program for.
I had both growing up, but didn't get the PS1 until the end of its life, PS2 had already been out for a year at that point and my mom got the PS1 along with a bunch of games on clearance. I mainly grew up with the N64, I believe I was 5 years old the first time I played N64, it was my first official game console, before that I played barbie games on the computer. I always loved the cartoony games the N64 had to offer. The PS1 also had some games like that too, but when I think of PS1 I mostly think, shooters, horror, and racing games. Not kid friendly for me at the time, more or less they didn't interest me at the time. Most importantly N64 had Mario, which I recognized before I even played a Mario game.
I love both to death but man, the ps1 has symphony of the night and spyro 2. You could ask 10 people who love the PlayStation 1 what their library looks like and you’ll find some fairly different libraries.
The n64 has about 50 games worth owning. Not to mention a complete in case ps1 game is gonna be much cheaper than a cib n64 game. Strange how Sony dominated to generations in a row with the weaker hardware.
The PS1 is better in my opinion. Way more variety in the game lineup, better exclusives, better textures and audio quality, and CDs
In terms of library - PS1>Saturn>N64
Saturn really doesn't get enough credit for the amount of great games that it has.
No
Except saturn 3d games. The n64 has a better 3d games than the saturn.
@@maroon9273 Saturn still has some good 3D games of its own like its racing games and fighting games. And some great 2D games as well. There's certain genres the N64 is weaker in compared to Saturn like arcade style games, fighting games, 2D games, RPGs, etc.
@@IkariMetalSluggerwere talking strictly 3d games. I agree with you the saturn has better rally game and fighting games than the n64. Outside of it the n64 has better titles and performaning games over the saturn.
Saturn was pretty much a 2D powerhouse that also could do a bit of 3D, whereas N64 was a 3D powerhouse that could do a bit of 2D. Each excells where the other lacks. In that sense they are very complementary with one-another.
I'd personally give this generation to the PS1 and then the Saturn which is slightly better than the N64. The main reason stems from the library. PS1's library was massive and there's just about something for everyone. The Saturn is better than people remember but many of the games were Japan only leaving many western fans not seeing many of the greats of it's library. The N64 has a select few great games that everyone talks about. Much of the 5th gen discourse surrounds Nintendo and the N64 thanks to stuff like the speedrunning community being huge and people just wanting to talk about Nintendo games. Outside of that the N64's library is lacking outside of Nintendo games and Rare.
I'm even starting to see the same thing with the Gamecube where people are suddenly praising it a ton when it was pretty clear the PS2 won the generation with both library and sales
Saturn 2D and 2.5D games were much better than majority of n64 games. 3D games, n64 destroys the saturn by a landslide.
I loved and love the N64. But this is barely a contest. PSX reigns supreme through brute force, sheer numbers.
3D platformers existed before Mario 64, but most were beyond janky and are barely remembered today.
Mario 64 perfected the genre overnight and we knew it the instant we played.
I'll never forget seeing that game on a retail demo unit. It's hard to explain to someone who wasn't alive for everything that came before just what it was like to have control over a character with THAT level of 3D animation for the first time. The experience didn't exist before. It felt like you could reach inside the TV and pull Mario out
Interestingly enough, most of those games are less janky than you remember, while Mario 64 is more janky than you'd think. It sounds weird when you first hear it, but there is a lot of small 'jank' in most older games. You just get used to it. People are used to Mario controlling like a ball bearing (he basically has too much weight, though Sunshine overcompensated and made him too light), so they don't notice how off it feels to do some moves from the perspective of someone who has played other games. Also the camera is dreadful.
Mario 64's main strengths were making the world feel far more cohesive than in most other games out at the time, along with your progress being non-linear stars, which made exploration feel more rewarding. That's the experience you enjoyed.
@@Kurriochi Sorry I don't buy it. A lot of games from that era are super archaic and not something you want to return to, while Mario 64 is a popular speedrunning game TODAY. It was leagues ahead of everything else and changed the industry overnight. Pure brilliance.
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@@Kurriochi Jumping Flash is pretty much the only legit 3d platformer that I can recall playing before 96. Do you have suggestions on that front?
I wouldn't call Mario 64 perfection of the genre. It's good but it has a ton of jank, that was the nature of early 3D. Look at how much better mario controls in Odyssey over 64 and that tells you how far we've come in control. I even think Sonic Adventure 1 has less jank in some ways over Mario 64 however both games have their issues with glitches and jank
@@crestofhonor2349 Nah Mario 64 still plays beautifully and watching speedrunners is a sight to behold. It's parkour.
A great generation. Both systems had their great games and were also very different. When I played Ocarina of the time for the first time as a Playstation guy, I thought that I had never played anything like it on Playstation. The game was amazing. Similar to Conker. He was so delightfully crazy that, as a Crash fan, I absolutely fell in love with him, and it's a breath of fresh air in this day and age of correctness.
On the other hand, I was disappointed by Mario 64, which I found boring, slow with not very precise controls. Even though it was groundbreaking in its time, I enjoyed more the frenzy of the previous parts on SNES and NES. That's why I fell so in love with Crash Bandicoot. Mostly the first part. Because there was the playfulness, precise control and frenzy of the older Mario games. I was also disappointed by Mario kart 64. For that I was very happy with Diddy kong racing, which is a great racing gem of Nintendo 64. And I consider it the second best kart game in history. The first is Crash team racing. It dominates its genre with its driving system.
You won't find such a Metal gear solid on the Nintendo 64 or anything close to it. I probably would have laughed like a kid, an American kid who thought Mario was a cool character. As a cool character, I imagined someone like Solid Snake, Gabe Logan, Cloud Strife, Alucard, Raziel, Lara Croft, Crash Bandicoot, etc. Metal gear solid is beautiful and great to play even today. Without any modification. And plenty of streamers are returning to this classic.
I enjoyed Playstation as a kid mainly because of the adult theme. Games like Driver 1,2 or both parts of Medal of honor were amazing and very cinematic. I still play medal of honor on ps1 and it still plays great thanks to the dual shock. They had amazing music and an amazing atmosphere. And there are really a lot of them on Playstation. Such a Soul reaver is a great gem, similar to Silent hill, Alien Ressurection, dino crisis 1.2 or Tenchu 1.2.
The Playstation had a huge selection of all genres and of really good quality. Playstation games tried to depict reality even with their modest parameters. Some, on the other hand, bet on a surreal atmosphere, such as in Abe's odyssey and Abe's exodus.
One really immersed himself in this world. And that mainly thanks to music and sounds. It's a very neglected thing on the Nintendo 64 side. But such The lost world on ps1 and its music and the sounds of the forest and dinosaurs were something surreal for me after the era of 16 bit games. The Playstation can offer much more than the Nintendo 64. But in America, Nintendo is an idol and practically a religion, which cannot be said for the rest of the world, so their fanatics will talk to themselves and never try the Playstation gems and spit on it without even playing anything.
PS1 had the games and music but N64 had the 1st-party games and better graphics. I found no issues with the N64 controller because I understood how it was supposed to be used from reading gaming magazines and don’t have the issue of needing to be aggressive and destroy analog sticks to play well haha… therefore they’re both good. RE2 shows that the N64 could probably do more than it was given credit for and the small amount of 2D experiences also showed it was mighty capable of 2D so it’s too bad the cartridge costs held it back.
Don’t forget about the FMV’s
PS1 was also marketed at an older audience which was a good share of Nintendos market at the time. Its what enticed me to go the route of the PS1 over the 64
I dont think the graphics difference was clear cut at all tbh when playing on actual hardware on a CRT at the time. RE2 in itself is a perfect example of this, the pre rendered backgrounds are muddier on the N64 unless you have the expansion pak and even if you do i'm not sure its quite at the PS1 quality. Or looking at something like say Gran Turismo, at that time people were wowed by that game visually over pretty much anything the N64 had. In practice the most actual noticeable differences were in the benefits of CD vs cartridge. The biggest "Wow" factor visually was in FMVs tbh. If you wanted to impress someone with that next gen feel and what the console could do just boot up FF7 or Tekken 2 and those intro FMVs.
@@ministryOFmuff look at F-Zero X, PS1 could never pull those polys at that frame rate. If you didn’t have an expansion park by the time RE2 was ported, I doubt you were really into the system. You needed it for Majora’s Mask and Perfect Dark and it enhanced a lot of games so I doubt someone who would buy RE2 wouldn’t have it. Of course PS1 was superior in FMVs and CD sound, but like I said N64 pushes cleaner and more polys at a faster frame rate without all the horrible warping you get on PS1. Memory on PS1 allows for higher resolution textures but they were always warping and wonky.
@@SharifSourour F Zero X looks like ass though lol. Granted thats in order to prioritize frame rate and amount of racers (and its a great game), but still, basic graphics and simplistic courses. The average Joe wouldnt look at that then look at Wipeout running on a PS1 and conclude that the N64 was some super powerful system in comparison. There was just always drawbacks with the N64 that seemed to offset any advantages it might have had, mainly because of cartridges I guess. Like you'd have that N64 Duke Nukem which looks and plays really well compared to the PS1 version, but then it has no friggin music lol (not to mention the cut content but thats a creative issue rather than technical). It just never felt like a simple black and white "N64 is more powerful" situation.
I think the Nintendo 64 has more games I would want to play today than the PS1 does. But I'm also not the biggest RPG fans so that might be the reason
The PS1 beats the N64 in literally every genre other than FPS and platformers though.
N64 had golden eye, spacestation silicon valley, mischief makers, blast corps, snowboard kids, and far better wrestling games which were huge at the time. It wasn't just games from Nintendo. I had both, and while I would agree Playstation won, I wouldn't say N64 was a 1 trick pony of 1st party exclusives.
PS1 one had the resident evil series, tekken, final fantasy,, WWF smackdown series, need for speed, point black and time crisis and a tone other games. PS1 was geared mored at the teen adult market which was a huge ex Nintendo fanbase. Nintendo made 3 mistakes with the 64, gearing most of their library to kids still (dont forget the NES and SNES had a library geared at adults and kids), sticking with carts, and that god awful controller.
In real time it kind of was though really. Looking at it from the perspective of week by week, month by month playing out in real time for several years the N64s release schedule was barren compared to the PS1. The N64 started that tradition of buying a Nintendo console as your secondary console for Mario and Zelda and a handful of other exclusives, its been that way every generation since.
And while I agree that the n64 had better wrestling games, lets not sleep on Smackdown 1+2, those were a very nice consolation prize for PS1 owners at the time. Smackdown 2 especially had the best backstage areas up to that point by far.
N64 is the greatest console of all time! Still playing mine to this day.
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Its not even the best Nintendo console.
Playstation was better for deep, adult-themed games one could sink 1000 hours into. Graphics were better produced but still inferior to the raw power of the 64, despite titles being less polished or having lower resolution assets. N64 was better for multiplayer and the games that really leveraged it.
I won't cite LOZ as being a reason 64 was better, Ocarina of Time may be a really great game conceptually, in practice they could have done far better. BOTW would be LOZ at it's peak.
PS1>Saturn>>>>>>64
Nothing against the Nintendo 64, but it is pretty tough competition against arguably the two greatest console libraries of all time.
I'd take the Saturn or N64 over the PS1 any day. PS1 is good, no doubt, but people still ride the things dick to this day like it was a flawless masterpiece.
Greatest console libraries of all time were PS2 and SNES but yeah PS1's library was insanely good and Saturn's was pretty strong especially for genre fans willing to import.
@@seanmckelvey6618neither of them had FF7 and MGS1 so nah
@@seanmckelvey6618 It wasnt a flawless masterpiece but it had easily the biggest and most varied library. Was more powerful than the Saturn and didnt have the numerous flaws of not being CD based like the N64. Its was pretty much a no brainer that it was the best overall option for gaming at the time.
The Saturn is definitely super underrated though. N64 had better exclusives but honestly looking at the overall depth of the library i'm not sure the Saturns was worse. The Saturn library probably had more variation.
I really think nintendo should have gone with a 2-in-1 64DD from the beginning, no cartridges. the magnetic disks fullfiled nintendo's desire to have a proprietary media format, could be written to, were faster than CDs and cheaper than cartridges.
Only option nintendo could've done. Even bump the storage size to rival the zipdisk/superdisk drives.
A lot of Playstation Games were also on PC
Congrats on hitting 1k. I think those first 1 thousand are the hardest.
I got a had a ps1 back in the day and once I played crash and twisted metal I swapped my older brother for his n64 and never still think that was one of the best decisions I have made nintendo games just rendered better with me and having adhd I never could play rpgs and things with too much reading back then it just felt like work for me but these days I'm finding i just love the saturn so much, all the awesome arcade ports,fighting games and shmups I would of loved it had I knew about it back then
I'll put it this way. I had both the N64 and PS1 as a kid and my top 2 games ever are Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask and I loved those games but other than those 2 games there wasn't a lot of other N64 games I loved. Mario 64 and Starfox 64 and Mario Kart 64 and the James Bond games being the others that jump to mind. But the PS1 on the other hand had like 30 or 40 games that I really liked. Metal Gear Solid, The Resident Evil games, The Tomb Raider games, The Final Fantasy games, The Crash games, The Spyro games, Tekken 2 and 3, Soul Blade, GTA1 and 2, Legacy of Kain Blood Omen and Soul Reaver, Legend of Dragoon, Time Crisis Castlevania Symphony of the Night and more. In my opinion there was just way more games worth playing on the PS1 than there was on the N64.
I had a friend who got a PlayStation when it came out and he was excited to play it with me, I thought it had a dumb name and no memory card means you have to start over from the very beginning and I didn't like the load times. I couldn't stop thinking he had a train station and the song Crossroads would come to mind, a song I didn't like, even though I did like trains, a little. Fast forward a few years and so many people had PlayStations, I didn't get one until the PS2 was out and that was also the same time I got an N64. The PS1 definitely had a better variety and the games ended up being super cheap by that time, the N64 games never really got bargain bin prices and the games were mostly less engaging. Several years later and I kept thinking about two games, SmackDown and No Mercy. No Mercy was much better and I bought another N64 just to play it. I always knew I could get a PS2 to play PS1 games and the PS3 was still too fresh for me, I always seem to be a generation behind because the library is flushed out and games are cheaper. PS1 was definitely the winner and knocked Nintendo off the console throne but the NES and SNES still hold an even more special place in my nostalgia than the generation that followed. I didn't really game much in the late 90s but I did have a Gameboy and I played a bit of Tetris. I don't know anyone who actually thinks N64 won that generation even if they're unfamiliar with the history but I don't really ask nor do I tend to pay much attention to people who are somehow connected to the internet but are so wrong about something they could easily look up. I must say that there were some games on the N64 that are more fun to play but the PS1 has some RPGs that could have never worked on the N64, the whole gaming industry was so focused on 3D that many gems released on the PS1 didn't get attention until the internet became more widely available and TH-cam videos were made covering them. No one that owned an N64 had to flip the console upside down to play a game though and may actually account for several million of the 102.49 million units sold. The low sales of the N64 ushered in a difficult market for the GameCube to capitalize in and caused the president of Nintendo to retire, although there was no hara-kiri performed. Not many would state the Piss won it's generation afterwards but it did, at least by units sold.
2 things:
1) A messed up N64 console that didn't read cartridges properly literally caused the "cosmic ray" mario 64 glitch (it wasn't a cosmic ray)
2) Lots of online articles, youtubers and forum sites repeat incorrect information regarding the PS1/N64, because most of the people repeating it are not well versed in how these systems worked. Everything from claiming the PS1 could do 360k or the N64 could do 1 million polygons per second (both could do around 100k textured polygons per second during the 90s), to not understanding how detrimental cartridges were to the system's library, or how few games came out on the system because of both the carts and the terrible licensing.
@@Kurriochinot only cartridge but the n64 limited texture cache ram. Which led to blurry textures from the n64 games.
PS1 dominates, but the what N64 lacked technologically and in quantity of games, it made up with in quality exclusives.
Come on now, you didn't even bring up Wave Race 64, Ridge Race 64, and Star Wars episode 1 Racer on the N64...
Imagine you bring up every gem and good game out of the PS1s library of thousands of games though lol.
I personally had so much fun, playing NFL blitz no mercy ocarina of time with all my friends! Don’t get me wrong I love the PS one, but for the four player, Mario kart goldeneye type of games. The N64 was just as much fun.
Thank you, I gave a more detailed rant in the comments
Great video!
Cartridges as a means of income as quality control. Same McDonalds does, they don't sell burgers, they collect money from their real estate as procurement strategy.
iI cant believe that there are no 3rd party N64's. If someone would make one, they could fix the ram issues. Most games on Playstation aged poorly and CD's really dont hold any real value compared to a cartridge. ( There are exceptions like that CD-i Zelda game that will cost you a kidney, then your sanity).
Hardware-wise the N64 was better, though it was crippled by storage capacity of carts. But it was a Silicon Graphics-bred 3D powerhouse. However, it was SEVERLY lacking in many important game genres. There were basically no good RPGs for it, there were a few racing games but nothing even close to the level of Gran Turismo or Colin McRae Rally (even the Ridge Racer on the n64 was just a worst version of R4)... It still has some of my favorite games of all time but the PS1 was just more complete. For me another big problem was cost. PS1 games weren't the cheapest thing, but were still much cheaper than the N64 cartridges. PS1 peripherals like controllers and memory cards were also more accessible (and better).
The conclusion I have is that the Sega Saturn is severely underrated.
The cost of games was a huge factor, yeah. Cheap CD media resulted in games being able to drop to crazy low prices. This was hugely impactful for me and let me try way more games on my PS1 than on N64. With few exceptions, the N64 mostly only got rentals played on it.
I’ve always said the N64’s biggest problem is that it had some of the best games ever made, but barely anything else. Like we saw again with the Wii U recently, having good games on your console is not the same as having a good library.
Using CDs wouldn’t have helped either way other than raise the price of the N64 at a steeper price point compared to the PS1. As optical drives and ram were excruciatingly expensive back then.
@@crazedlunatic43 The N64 was already $100 cheaper than the PS1 at launch. From the sound of their statements from back in the day, Nintendo didn’t go with CDs because they wanted piracy to be really hard and they seemed absolutely convinced that loading times would be completely unmanageable (honestly way they were putting it I feel like one of them saw the Neo Geo CD in action and thought that’s just what happens when anything more complex than a snes game is on a disk). And let’s face it, the game benefits and extra 3rd party support would’ve had people more than willing to fork over the extra cost.
@@crazedlunatic43 Drives were expensive but the media was super cheap even then. Pressing a CD cost pennies while making a cartridge was $20 or more (depending upon the capacity of it). This obviously carried over to the sale price of games and gave both consoles very different minimum costs for new games.
Turok is a great game, take that back! 😄
My father owned both when I was a kid. Last year I've build a little emolation console and played N64 & PS1 classics. The N64 games aged better and they feel great, even compared to modern games. Banjo Kazooie, Mario 64, Zelda OOT & MM, Rouge Squadron, Smash Bros and F-Zero are timeless classics. Don't get me wrong, FF VII and FF IX, Metal Gear, Tekken 3 and the Resident Evil games are also great games. But if I compare the consoles today, I stick with N64. The games simply aged better. OOT and Mario 64 are played even today
10:47 Basically they took the Virtual Boy controller, turned the right +Control Pad and made it separate buttons, rework the Select button as a Z button and add a Control Stick. All six face buttons have been reorganized to be optimized for 2D fighting games. Z and Start were moved to the middle of the controller as well.
N64 was my first ever console so at first I was team n64. But once I got a ps2 and was able to go back and play some of the classics on ps1 I realized Sony got it, too many classics especially if u a jrpg fan
11:48 This music track sounds familiar. What is it, and where is it from?
Spyro the Dragon, I don't know which track though.
Back when games had to be creatively designed around the console, leading to totally different feels in libraries. Amazing times
Now the differences are who paid for exclusivity/studio and which one runs at 60 FPS vs 58 FPS
I personally preferred the ps. By quite a bit. All my favorite 3rd party frachises were going there and were still getting 2d pixel installments (castlevania, megaman x etc). I wasnt a fan of everything going to 3d on the nintendo and the poliginal aesthetic as a whole. I thought a lot of it looked bad, even with the novelty of it, especially compared to 32 bit pixel art, which has aged quite well. A lot of it just didnt transition very well for me. Of course, I played a lot of star fox 64 and mario kart 64 but not much else.
0:50 The Philips CD-i was NOT made because Nintendo partnered with Philips in 1991. The Super Famicom and the Philips CD-i were both released in 1990, and Nintendo's CD add-on deal with Sony was cancelled in 1991 before going with Philips.
I agree. I played and enjoyed both consoles as a kid, but the PS1 is the clear winner. N64 had some great games, but the PS1 had way more, and a much better controller.
I had the PS1 growing up but I'll say this about the N64, it has the most top heavy library of all time. I think that the best 15 N64 games is better than any other consoles. PS1 had the range, so probably the 2nd greatest range after the PS2. If you valued graphics but wanted a small library N64, if you value cheaper games, CD player function and diverse range of games PS1. If I had to recommend one, it would be the PS1 as they was something for every type of gamer
ps1 as a kid was amazing, so many games, so much variety. they were cheaper and when the ps2 came out you could play all of them on it too!
Both incredible systems! Had a great time with my PS and N64
Still have them 👾 and both working A1
I had both and during the day or when i had sleepovers, it was Goldeneye64, Mariokart64 and Mario Party, 4 players! When I was alone, it was singleplayer time. My most fond memories goes to the N64.
I was 9 and too young to stay informed on things like exclusivity contracts. I liked RPGs, those were mostly on my SNES, so i asked for a 64 for Christmas. I have this memory seeing trailers for FF7 while i was reading a magazine about the upcoming Quest 64. Thats a rough memory for me.
I got both the Playstation and Saturn on the same day Sony released the PSX- 9/9/95. I tried to get my Saturn during the surprise launch (damn Sega) but I couldn't find one. I flat wasn't interested in getting an N64 at all. Especially after finding out it was going to be cart based...(this is going somewhere).
That is until the N64 became the king of the FPS. One look at Goldeneye and Doom 64 changed my attitude on the matter with a quickness. I went from "Meh, to I need this in my life now!" It was like a smorgasbord of unique FPS experiences that you flat couldn't get anywhere else. Even the FPS's that released multiplatform always had something extra on the N64. While the N64 does not top the PSX in my eyes it definitely is a worthy machine. I wound up playing it far more than I did my Saturn. Especially when Sega just stopped supporting it here.
Addendum- The Playstation wins by virtue of having the most high quality games in its stable. There were so many games releasing for it that there was never a time where I was stuck waiting for something new to come out. While both Sega and Nintendo hit droughts...the floodgates were wide open for Sony.
I was around for both consoles launch. I remember being nuttier than a squirrel turd trying to figure out which one to beg for. My intro to the ps1 was twisted metal 1, my intro to the n64 was Mario 64 a little later on. I begged for a ps1 but kept the genesis alive until the price dropped to 150 on the ps1 then mom got one. And a Sony trinitron crt. It was bangin. Then later on I played goldeneye and was like oh man I need a n64 and I loved pilotwings. Then Medal of Honor came out and I was all happy again. Spot on about the number of games owned for each system. I had stacks of ps1 games, over 50. My neighbor had maybe 10 n64 games. Once goldeneye wore out the ps1 carried on for a few more years as the neighborhood machine. Until the ps2 showed up. I will say though, that going back and playing through doom 64 as an adult was a great time. Upscaled with a 360 controller it’s an absolute treat and my favorite doom.
I've only played the PC port of Doom 64, it came out a couple years ago I think... And yeah I have to say it's a great game. The atmosphere and sounds especially, oh and also firing the chain gun feels so good.
Ps1 won the sales war for sure. N64’s controller was better imo. Nintendo’s use of it was brilliant. Layout was better for fighting games as well. I never liked the PlayStation’s thumbstick locations. I preferred The limited Knights to Dreams Sega Saturn Controller & N64 controllers over the PS1 controller. The PS1 controller felt like a tweaked SNES controller with two additional thumbsticks. Always hated the four button two shoulder button layout back then.
The Dual Shock wasn't Sony's first Analog controller for the original Playstation. Dual Shock was the second version and added the rumble feature. The Playstation's first analog controller was called the Dual Analog.
I had my playstation for about a year between 1997-98. Then traded it for an N64. Never regretted it. SM64, Goldeneye, Ocarina, Majora, Mario Kart, Banjo, Diddy Kong Racing. These were games that made me love games. Playstation just didn't hit the same for me at the time. N64 games always looked better visually, and load times practically did not exist. That said, I still love the PS1, and still go back and play games I never played as a kid.
Funny how there's more console warring in this comment section alone than I ever witnessed at the time, it's also hot take city.
I've sometimes browsed very early Google Groups discussions just for fun. Late 90s/early 2000s. People did argue loads on those boards, there were tons of very wrong predictions, it was funny.
@@Kurriochi I can't say I had a huge amount of exposure to internet forums at the time but well, you know how it goes online haha.
Really though all this talk about playground arguements bitd are blown way out of proportion. Both consoles brought very different thingsto the table and you'd have been mental to not want to at least play both consoles... a lot. Nobody was bothered about wobbly textures or analog sticks that had virtually no grip, we were too busy exploring all the new, wildly different games that we suddenly had access to.
Of course looking through a modern lens you can suggest that certain things might not have aged all that well but the thing is, you can also solve most of their shortcomings now though emulation and console mods.
@@shroomologist Thats because it was commonly understood that there was no "war" at the time, the PS1 led that console generation by a pretty wide margin and it was very evident back then.
Its pretty simple : the N64 was a shitty blurry graphical fog.
Like when a puke in my mouth, but in 576p 😂.
And with ps1 , you've played with metal gear, tekken, crash bandicoot, final fantasy,winning eleven,etc....
The roster of games was incredible.
Ps1 hands down. Price, games and everything in general. The franchises for me were Wipeout, Tomb Raider, Tekken, Resident Evil, Metal Gear, and Final Fantasy.
Gran Turismo ❤
13:53 this is misleading. Having lived through this era, I can tell you this: The 64 was targeted towards kids and preteens, as where the ps1 was marked towards young adults. So instead of buying 64 games our parents would RENT them, because is was far less expensive. So this really hurt the sale of 64 games. Young adults on the other hand had more disposable income and because the games were less expensive, they would be able to afford them.
The middle point is where you see the creator's PS1 bias kick in and than he tries to reel it back at the end :P
Are you sure about the unfeasible to load from cartridge? Because I know Factor 5 pointed out that one of their tricks to get the most out of the 64 was, "essentially using the cart as RAM", which was a more feasible tactic when the bigger carts were available.
While PS1 had more FPS (any genre really), it was a notable genre on the 64. Besides the exclusive ones, you also had some multiplat one that performed better on the 64 (despite the usual texture and sound compromises).
While a niche genre, I was big into pro wrestling at that time and the 64 arguably had to best wrestling games thanks to AKI.
You do bring up a bunch of good points. Two things that I would add to why the 64 retro scene is notable is because of it's large library, many 64 owners played the same games. Building that familiarity and bond. Because PS1 had such a big library, you had owners that probably only played FIFA.. probably only played RPGS.. probably only played the Capcom fighters (Saturn was better for that).. etc. You could have handful of PS1 gamers and they could probably have completely seperate game libraries. Another reason I personally believe too is because the mutliplayer ease and focus of that system resulted in lots of playing with friends at the time. While I envied the RPGs and Resident Evils of PS1 at the time, I still had a blast playing the aforementioned wrestling games, the Goldeneye/Perfect Dark sessions and the usual suspects of that category. Those same PS1 owners would also be eager to join in on those sessions.
Even to this day, I make a habit of grabbing additional controllers with different controllers.. hoping to have multiplayer sessions like those days ❤.. Sadly too many games prioritize online instead and don't want to sacrifice graphics for a splitscreen/local coop option :(
2 things:
1) factor 5 devs talked about how they used data streaming, so basically loading and unloading cartridge data to RAM, not running it directly off the cart as it was far too slow for that.
2) I agree on the library stuff, though I feel it's better for the consumer to have more choices, even though that means they'll have less in common in the end.
Mario 64 redefined 3D games and shaped the way for the modern games that we play today. Mario 64, was a game changer Sony and Sega where could off hard with the release. Sony got in two years earlier had a good library off games.
The PlayStation won the 32-Bit console Wars It had better games. It was stronger hardware and using compact discs really helped to show what the console can really do. The N64 is a great console 2 but a used cartridges that didn't have a lot of space in them to begin with and also a control that was very uncomfortable and also over time the stick could also have problems
I have had a PS3, PS4, GameCube, Wii, N64 and a PS1 and going through the whole game libraries of each to find games I like playing on emulation, what I noticed was that how few games were available for N64 and the GameCube in Europe with majority of them being rubbish especially the Wii which had mostly crappy games whereas the PlayStation's had massive gaming libraries 6-10 times more but you got even more great games.
N64 has experienced the Dreamcast effect where people who never bought it or supported it in its time swear by it now. I had both those systems on their hay day and enjoyed them a lot at the time so it’s nice to see a lot of people noticing their value if late, but the disingenuousness of then being all about it is odd.
To be honest, the Dreamcast's exclusive library has been far more interesting than the N64's. The Dreamcast had pretty cheap publishing deals, so some interesting lower budget games were made for it (zusar vasar for instance). It's far more interesting (and playable) than what the N64 had to offer.
@@Kurriochi Ocarina of time set the precedent for how 3D action adventure games should be designed. Until this day the best 3D action adventure games copy it and for good reason. Same can be said about Mario 64’s 3D platformer of completely outdoing any similar examples at the time and set the standard for all future games in that genre to follow. Goldeneye not only had a great campaign but had one of the most fun multiplayer experiences in its time. Winback an underrated gem executed an amazing duck and shoot design copied by countless games after. N64 had the best looking arcade ports of racing games in its time. It has amazing hidden gems like Sin & Punishment. It also boasts some of the best Star Wars games like Rogue Squadron and Episode I Racer. Starfox 64 is the ultimate on the rail shooter which many games have mimicked since. There are many more too. If you can’t find enough good playable exclusives on N64 it’s not the N64’s fault!
@@SharifSourourother than those games including perfect. Outside of them the dreamcast has much better especially 3rd party, racings and arcade games.
@@maroon9273 well I wasn't comparing the N64 and Dreamcast that way, I was saying that a lot of people who stand for the N64 today weren't down when it came out. I do agree that Dreamcast may be a superior system to it, but that's not what I was talking about.
@@SharifSourour Yeah I do feel like theres some retconning going on. Back in those days you'd walk into a store and the PS1 section would be 3x the size of the N64 section. N64 owners would still be talking about and playing the same handful of games while the PS1 got a steady stream of content. Obviously stuff like OOT and Goldeneye were understood to be great but very few people at the time were seriously arguing that the PS1 wasnt kicking the N64s ass overall.
Both were so fire. Back then if you were claiming one was better it’s because you didn’t have the money (like me) to have both.
Heres the thing- it's all about FUN FACTOR and you had to LIVE in that era to understand it...there's no way ANY Playstation gamer was having more fun than their next door neighbor with an N64 playing Mario Kart 64, Smash Bros., NFL Blitz, Mario Party etc with 3 of their friends......name a PS1 scenerio..what? Taking turns with a friend playing Tomb Raider, Metal Gear Solid or FF7????...I'd rather invite 3 of my friends/cousins over and laugh all night playing any of the Mario Party games or Super Smash Bros....
Right now, what would you rather do?.....revisit PS1 FF7 in your gameroom all by yourself when you have the remake sitting on your PS5 complaining thats its not the same and the full game isnt there or get some buddies over and play Super Smash bros or Mario Kart 64.....
And that is what makes the N64 BETTER than the PS1, the couch multiplayer because no one bought the PS multitap and if anyone did, they would play what? Madden and NBA Live? Or Fifa?😂 -(which are all multiplayer player games on the N64 might I add)
And lastly I HAD BOTH consoles in the late 90s.....so I'm speaking from experience...the N64 is the CLEAR winner in my book, it had "The Fun Machine" right on the damn box for a reason.....
All that and I didn't even MENTION Goldeneye or Perfect Dark 😎
You should play twisted metal 1/2 with a friend, it's tons of fun in co-op c: If you want to play with 4 players, you can use a multitap and play twisted metal 3. It's good fun.
@@Kurriochiyes, I mentioned the multitap in my comment, but no, there's still no scnerio where the PS1 is more fun than the N64, I mean Twisted Metal may BE fun with 3 other friends, but its not on the same fun factor level as Mario Party and that's just one N64 multiplayer game....
Yes, I would rather player Metal Gear Solid, Tomb Raider 1+2 and FF7 (and 9) over fucking Mario Party lmfao. I suppose i'm just not "fun" though.
Pretty sure all those fighting, racing and sports games that PS1 had that N64 didnt had multiplayer too....
@@ministryOFmuff not 4 player multiplayer which is my point... and sux to be you if you'd rather play FF7 ALONE again and again after you've completed all 3 disc's 🤣🤣🤣... yeah uhhhhh Goldeneye/Mario Party/Smash Bros it is for me..and my friends..the best PS1 games have NO replay value.....so sad breh
Banking software uses fixed point. Floating point is not more accurate. Floating point can represents bigger ranges of values, but its a trade off with accuracy. With fixed point the precision is constant on all the range.
The thing is that due to the larger gaps between adjacent fixed-point numbers, you can end up having larger round-off errors than if you used floats. Especially when we're dealing with 32 or 16 bit values.
Although they were both great consoles, as a young teenager my friends and I played n64 over ps1 every single time we hung out. There were just better multiplayer games and the quality of titles were just better imo. I can name off way more Quality n64 games over ps1 games even though I owned both consoles growing up.
PS1, easily. Lots of great N64 games but PS1 has so many more great games and some really cool deep cuts too.
Quality over quantity my friend
Don't act like you weren't a bit jealous of the pokemon stadium games in 98/99
The quality over quantity argument from N64 fans has always been weird to me. The PS1 has BOTH.
@@vegapreferred9344 Or we could just take both, because the PSX CERTAINLY has that.
Have both, love both, but if I had to pick a favourite I think it's obvious
The highs were higher on the N64 but the lows were lower.
I didn't get an N64 for a few years after launch because honestly....there was fuckall to play other than the first party stuff. I was too busy playing classic after classic on the PS1 to be bothered 😂
I know I already posted, but....why would anyone think the N64 won the 5th generation? It wasn't close by any metric imaginable. Sony outperformed everyone...
Slapping a CD drive would’ve made the N64 more expensive at launch and RAM was expensive too. People tend to blame how expensive cartridges were (which is true), yet they also miss the point on how costly CD drives were back in the 90s. For starters, Sony chose a CD drive that was as fast as 2x and settled for 2 megabytes of memory, but the end product would certainly cost no less than $300 to manufacture, which meant Sony still sold the system at a loss. Had Nintendo slapped a CD drive on the N64, you’re looking at a product that would’ve been too steep in comparison to the PS1’s $300 price tag.
The PS1 had a price drop to 200$ on May 1996, in order to match the still unreleased N64. The PS1 also had 3.5MB of total memory, but only 2MB of that was system RAM. If you wanted to have 4MB of system RAM, you'd probably need to increase the price to ~330$ or something on release (EDO was not that expensive) and the prices could drop to ~220, but stay a little above the N64 by the time it released. Still, with a clever use of data streaming, games like Soul Reaver or Driver can still let you explore giant and near seamless worlds without loading zones. Also Soul Reaver's engine is called "GEX" internally by Crystal Dynamics.
I meant that the PS1 would have 4 megs of RAM and be priced At 330$ on release, not the N64.
@@Kurriochi That would certainly make the PS1 more expensive for sure, though not nearly as expensive as the Saturn which debuted at $400 back in ‘95 (equivalent to over $800 in today’s money), but Sony didn’t want to add any more cost to the machine and so they stuck with 2MB of usable memory. Dropping the system down to $220 by ‘96 would technically mean a $40 dollar difference in today’s money when taking inflation to account.
And well, as much as expensive as carts were, the memory cards needed were also expensive as well which would make your $220 ($50 PS1 game + $20 1MB card = $290, without applying tax and is the equivalent to $580 in 2024) purchase increase in cost because memory cards were needed to store saves. Compared to the $200 price tag of the N64 and copy of Mario 64 which costed about $60 ($520, without tax applied) you would have spent less money than going with a more expensive CD system that needed memory cards.
And before you add, but the N64 had it’s own memory cards too, which yes it did, but only third party releases relied on them and part of the N64’s biggest appeal was it’s Nintendo and rare games which rarely if not, ever used memory cards to store saves.
N64 Disk drive would've been much better than using cartridge for games.
@@maroon9273 You mean 64DD?
They both were great consoles.
i bought a ps1 becuse the 64 was not out yet and when it did come out my local rental shop had like 6 options for the 64. plus by that point their were just way more options rpg wise for the ps1. might of helped my first ps1 games were ff7 and fft. Dorter taught me i needed a memory card lol
The top 3 games on N64 are better than anything on PS1 but the PS1 is still far better the sheer variety of genres in PS1 was out of control N64 did have the better graphics though.
MGS, FF7 + 9 and Tomb Raider 1+2 stand up to anything on the N64.
I would say Dreamcast was my favorite console of all time. So I don't know what I'm doing here lol.
Semi off topic but what’s the game at the 2 minute mark?
MDK.
I enjoyed Nintendo 64 especially for its first party game , But overall the PS1 had a massive library and better games
PS1, not even close. I even prefer the Saturn over the N64 by a sizable margin.
This bit about eliminating the main benefit cartridges used to have is wild, can you point me to more information about that? I’m not super tech savvy but I’d love to read about it. The n64 marketing seems like it was full of a lot of half truths
Basically, the cartridges were still too slow to directly read data off of them. Data still needed to be copied from the cartridge to the RAM. Now, this was ~16x faster than doing the same thing with a disc, which meant loading times of (from my measurements) 2-8 seconds depending on the game and situation on the PS1 were often near-instant on the N64. The difference is that the N64 carts held far less data, and while the longer load times could be dealt with, you could just put in mid-level loading zones, you could make a smart way of streaming data to where they're far less of an issue, etc., it wasn't easy, but it was workable. With the cartridges, the one giant downside was unavoidable. They were expensive and held far less data. There's a reason we switched to discs. Today, of course, discs are far too slow for us, so we've moved to installing disc games to the main RAM, and due to the Switch's design, cartridges actually work out quite well on it. But back on the N64 it was strictly the worse choice.
@@KurriochiOne of the bigger limitations of the N64 was the use of RDRAM, which offered high bandwidth at the cost of horrible latency. Had Nintendo stuck with CDs, the final product would not only be more expensive, but it would’ve been a total disaster thanks to the horrible latency offset by RDRAM.
@@crazedlunatic43so sram is much better than rdram?
@@maroon9273 The type of RDRAM that Nintendo used happened to be an early batch, which means RDRAM was first used on the N64 before their introduction to PCs in late ‘99. Nintendo chose it because they were being offered RDRAM at a lower price which offered higher bandwidth, compared to other alternatives. But they probably shouldn’t have went with RDRAM, since loading textures from RAM was not desirable and the burden was shifted to the cartridges instead, which was faster than RAM.
The first Playstation is a Legendary game system!
I had a N64 when it first came out and traded it for a PS1
I’d probably had left videogames had not sony stepped into the market. I was coming of age and games like mario had zero appealed to me, Resident Evil, Wipeout and Tomb Raider in 1996 made me stay 😂
Another factor that people like to forget is that Ps1 sold more and is more popular because of PIRACY which was huge.
Piracy wasn't that big of a factor in PS1 sales, especially early on. Piracy never really makes up a big portion of why a console sells otherwise the Dreamcast would have done well
@@crestofhonor2349 Piracy ofcourse was that big factor for both ps1-ps2 sales and a reason why xbox 360 was ahead of ps3 and the Ds and etc etc. As for Dreamcast one reason that killed it was the piracy as Sega couldnt afford to be both runner up and total loss on piracy, they preffered to ditch it than continue supporting it.
When this generation was announced i expected the Ultra 64 to be best, followed by the Saturn, and lastly, that PS-X thing witg stupid kiddie color shape buttons by a company that doesn't even make games.
After owning all three I definitely used the PS1 the most and the RPGs alone made it amazing. Metal Gear Solid? So many good games. Saturn far less but it had a lot of soul. N64 just feels... Off? Maybe its the burry graphics or something but i just feel like I'm in a hostile environment when I play that console.
I've never actually finished Mario 64 because i get bored with it. It's very fun for a while. Ocarina of Time...? I bought it new snd never managed to get more than a few hours into it. I try to play it again every few years and lose interest before getting out of the first town, usually. I feel like im missing out on something but when i look its not there.
I got a TON of mileage out of my N64 from WCW Revenge, WWF WrestleMania 2000, and No Mercy though.
I played Mario Kart and Smash Bros i guess. Those games are pretty shallow throwaway experiences though. They don't stick with you, despite being fun in the moment.
Definitely PS1 for the vast software library.
I disagree with the Smash comment, the Smash games are deceptively deep regardless of the more casual nature, plus it kickstarted the whole platform fighter genre as we understand it. 3D Zelda can be a love it or hate it thing, I suppose. You are talking about a game that jumped Zelda into 3D and when compared to a game like Wind Waker or Twilight Princess it is pretty clunky. Zelda also tends to experiment a lot with each entry different people end up playing different Zeldas for a variety of reasons because they're pretty all vastly different in terms of gameplay, art style/direction, design logic, etc. despite fitting into the generic term of "action-adventure".
But I ultimately don't disagree, it would make more sense from a money perspective to buy into the platform that gives you the most games to pick from no matter what generation. I like Nintendo more than Sony especially as a kid but PC ended up being the better choice in the long run because Nintendo as a company is pretty hostile to the player despite how much I love their games.
Ocarina of Time is an odd one. I also dropped it several times until one day it finally clicked with me and I played it from start to finish. Ended up becoming one of my favorite games ever, but it took a while until I really got into it. What I can say and probably what the people who swear by this game will agree with, is that it has some fantastic atmosphere and world building later on, especially after you unlock the time travel mechanics and see the creepy future part of the game, but the early part of the game isn't exactly the most exciting. You kinda just start thinking it's gonna be a light hearted adventure game with some puzzles, but it actually turns out to be a very intricately crafted game world if you stick around.
I played Ocarina after I played Soul Reaver and didn't understand the hype around Ocarina. It had some interesting dungeons and some boring dungeons. But for me it lacked interesting story in the first place. It was so generic. Overall it was an interesting game with nice atmosphere of a kids fairytale but I only finished it once while I re-played Soul Reaver, Shadowman, Tomb Raider, Medievil, King's Field 3 countless times.
@@Sly2CooperOcarina was far from generic. I almost question if you know what generic means. Maybe you found it uninteresting and that would be an opinion to have but I doubt anyone would agree with you.
Anyway, Soul Reaver was damn good. One of my favorites. Had it on PS1 then bought it again for Dreamcast.
@@AnnoDomini19XX I was referring to the story of Ocarina to be unispiring, bland and generic. Story is sometimes the motivation to continue a game when gameplay looses momentum. That's the problem with too many Nintendo games (not all of them). Majora's Mask was intriguing at the begining but the story quickly became stale and I dropped the game completely at that boring underwater level. There wasn't any reason to continue. Sometimes lack of good story is ok, but after playing many action-adventure/action-RPG games that gen (Shadowman, Soul Reaver, Alundra, Vagrant Story, MGS, Silent Hill, etc) I expected at least some interesting story to keep me playing. But it was just boring child's tale to the very end.
No Sega Saturn in this comparison, sadge
The Saturn was very 'unknown' to most people in the west at the time. It had a lot of brilliant games people are sleeping on, including Panzer Dragoon Saga, but it just didn't sell enough to be in the competition as it was killed off too early.
No contest. The n64 had better games and better hardware. The ps1 was easier to copy and was therefor more popular.
Lol no PS1 had the better games MGS1 alone smash the N64 library and idc about piracy
@@dxtremecaliber I wouldn’t say that one game alone smashes it but yeah it’s definitely better than most n64 games. Even as a Nintendo kid I thought the ps1 was better lol
How did the n64 have better games though? the absolute best games on each system are comparable in quality, while the PS1s overall library in terms of size and variety of good/great games blows the N64s away.
PS1 had the better game library. N64 had games that were just as good as PS1, but if you compare the libraries overall PS1 wins.
N64 was the better graphical hardware. PS1 had better cut scenes though, as it was able to play high quality videos because of the CD drive.
@@dxtremecaliberppl who were the only child or didn't have friends that came over valued the ps1 back in the day, but that's why the n64 is better...
One Nintendo 64 Game: Conkers Bad Fur Day... Never see a PS Game that looked better... N64 was the better Console...
Other were pretty dope, but Playstation had such a stupidly good library, even modern Playstations can't compete.
I can't agree with that because that sounds like you're only counting exclusives and forgetting so much else that came out afterwards
Holy bias batman, just tell everyone you're a sony fan boi. I had both and would tend more towards the N64, it was faster. The PS had long load times and both had comparable graphics. PS got much larger in scope games because of the CDs. Both had benefits and drawbacks but you outright said that the cartridge benefit of the N64 was eliminated by it loading data into RAM. Yes, just like any application on a computer-like device, data is pulled off the media and loaded into RAM; the N64 is still much much faster with load times.
N64. Quality over quantity.
PS1 had a ton of quality
@crestofhonor2349 ya, n64 top 10 games are on par with ps1 but after that ps1 top 50 games blow 64 out the water. It was the jrpg system when jrpgs were everything.
PS1 had quantity AND quality.
Its all about the games, and the PS1 kills the N64 in every genre.
Well, we found the fanboy. I have no hate for the PS1, but I did prefer the N64. It had the best games for me, and you forgot Smash in your list.
A good comparison is Spyro vs Mario64. Each look better in their own way
Spyro wasn’t Sonys first ps1 game vs Mario 64. And Spyro took inspiration from Mario 64
@@vegapreferred9344 I know that. Read my second sentence
I feel Sony won the war because sega screwed up everything about it their entry into the 32-bit market, down to their controllers
Sounds like GTAV playing in the background either that or you live in Chicago 😳🤷🏻♂️
It's the Twisted Metal OST, so yeah basically.
Ps1 had the better library of games. The N64 only has about 10 must play games and the controller is horrible.
N64: Quality over quantity. That is its strength.
PS1 beats it in both areas pretty easily.
PS1 destroys N64 in games alone. It has so many exclusives at the time. the crash trilogy and racing game, FF7, metal gear solid, Castlevania sotn, silent hill, spyro the dragon, tomb raider, gran turismo, xenogears, resident evil. And there's so much more stuff, while the N64 didn't have much impressive stuff past whatever Nintendo made.
yeah Rare were terrible
@@markrung8051 Eurocom and Acclaim were also not that good. They just released their best games on that console.
@@markrung8051Rare could only do so much.
N64 really had but a few great games, while PS1 provided plenty.
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Sure but nobody ever busted out the PlayStation at a highschool party. Girls didn't come running over to join in. It didn't create an instant Smash/MKart/GoldenEye level commotion.
It certainly has the better library but it's hard to overstate the four controller ports and heavy focus on multiplayer games.