It's videos like this that really help. Bushing is the only part of my spaceship that I haven't touched. I've done brakes, oil, filters, spark plugs etc. But I was always afaid of how much effort this took (especially after reading the service manual). There's so many little tricks I didn't know that might not be Honda approved but that are much easier lol. Thanks a lot.
An easier way to remove them bushing is to drill them through first, take middle bit out as much as you can, and then use a mini hack saw (think its called junior hack saw). You have to turn the blade upside down and put blade through the old bushing and then connect the handle/frame to blade, and saw the bushing metal part and it come right out like a jiffy.
Removing the old bushings is actually as easy as it sounds without special tools. I just hammered a screwdriver all the way through in 4 positions at 90degrees, spraying copious wd40. Then just hammer the screwdriver through and against inner edge the flange and it will just ease its way out nicely. It wasn't even necessary to move the position of the screwdriver but it may be useful in some cases. Installed it with a homebrew version of the correct tool you're using, although I do wish I had one!!
I am really greatful about the the video you have done with the. spaceship civic. No one has uploaded this yet. I have done every suspensions/bushings/links except this one. I left the beast for last. But after I have seen your video, I am quiet confident with that. I only afraid of the old brake pipes, hope they won't snap. Anyway, let's do it! Thanks.
ok so 3 years down the line the bushings failed an MOT again. I think the best ones to fit are the solid polypropylene ones but i’ll put another “normal” ones , these ones I’ve bought from Eurocarparts. Let’s hope these last longer than 3 years.
Salut l'ami les miens sont bon à changer aussi ( civic 8 type s 2.2 i-ctdi) mai j'hésite à m'être caoutchouc ou polyuréthane. Pouvez vous me conseiller
Nice video! I remember doing these on my 2.2 cdti. Absolute Pain to do. Ended up using a blow torch to burn out the rubber in the old bushing then used a hacksaw and hammer and chisel to tap it out. Problem is that the bushes are so big, most press tool sets wont have a big enough adapter. I also had to make my own tool to press the new one in.
Manish Patel if you use a screwdriver like i did the second time and wd40 it comes out like a charm it was a pain but worth it. i saved loads of money on that .
Parallax Visuals Yup definitely worth it. I’ll give it a go like this next time ( hopefully I won’t have to do this again). Burning the rubber out is a messy job not to mention toxic. Crazy how Honda don’t sell the bushes separately and expect you to buy an entire new rear beam!
Good video as mine are in same condition. I feel confident to do it my self now as a garage owner claiming the whole axle needs to come off. Wanted £600
Ok so after doing some research that bar is not called a torsion bar it’s called (SOLID REAR AXLE) people can’t find videos on how to do it because they are searching up the wrong name try searching ( Honda Civic solid rear axle bushings replacement )
Easy way to do these type of "axel bushes" is to remove rear wheels. Drop rear shocks off and pull/pop out springs. Take off caliper bolts and unclip brake pipes off the axel and handbrake cables. Should then be able to remove both retaining bolts for the beam bushes. Lower axel and do it on the ground . You can burn out bushes or drill out the rubber then get a cold chisel and fold a v into the outer plastic/nylon/metal skin of the bush dont forget to mark the axel what way the bushes sit. Get a drill with wire wheel attachments clean out the bush housing on the axel . Fit new bush. Always recommended fitting polybushes as they have a very easy fitment. Cleaning and removing all old bush from the housing is very important then reverse your procedure for fitting
The bush would come out a lot easier into standard puller cups IF you angle grinded/ cut the flare off the old bush. I swear honda designed the flare on the bush just to make it harder to remove! The new bush can then be pulled in with a flat plate on the flare end. Yes, remove the flared end off the old bush first. 👍🏻
Thanks for this video! Q: is it safe to jack up this Honda from the middle of the axle as you put the jack there? Isn't it a movable part in terms of safety?
Hi... One question please.How many km did the car have when you replacing the rear bushings? I have the same car and i have more noice from rear axle. My car has 134.000 km
hello! i had like 120000 miles, times that by 1.6 192000 km. i also swapped the front shock absorbers at around the same milage. it made the ride smoother deffinetly. my plan is to swap the front bushings also on the wishbone and the engine bushings as there is rattling going on somewhere. i love this car, it's perfect for me hence me taking care of it like that.
@@ParallaxVisuals Thank you my friend !! Very good..i have noice from the front suspension and A few days ago I changed the spare parts with these codes.Meyle 31-16 060 0002/HD MEYLE 31-14 615 0000 MEYLE 31-16 020 055/HD AND 0054/HD MEYLE 31-16 030 0019 AND 0020.. and the result is amazing. Noise, crunching no longer exists. Do you have a messenger to send you 2 videos to listen to the noise?
It’s not entirely up to mileage for bushing to be replace. There’s other factors, such as quality, weather etc. so you’d really need to check these things on regular basis.
I think they will, go under the car and see if stuff looks the same, japanese people are very practical when it comes to standardisation, I don't see a reason for them to change anything in the rear of the vehicle on diesel models.
I removed the large bolt,(i didnn't need to remove brake pipes)drilled through the rubber with a drill bit (used for drilling wood type), used a reciprocating saw(or hacksaw blade)to cut through the remaining rubber and plastic outer sleeve taking care not to cut the metal sleeve of the arm.(just one single cut required) Persuaded the bush out by using an old flat end screwdriver and hammer(making note of bush orientation). I improved the plastic taper on the edge of the new bush before attempting to insert it by sanding or grinding it using angle grinder(lightly to make the taper about 8mm long). Tapped it home using a hammer on the PLASTIC outer edge of the bush,working around the outer edge to sink it in squarely. No bush/bearing tool required. Work safely guys. Just need to find the correct torque settings for the big bolt ? anyone ?
I did not find anything in the Haynes repair manual about the torque setting for those bolts so i did my best to replicate the force i used to unbolt them:D
Is this the reason mine sounds like something hitting real hard in my rear suspension when I hit a bump it i replaced shocks and springs and still sounds like bam bam every time I hit a bump ? Somebody help me please ?
you have to realise these cars are not as silent as say a mercedes e class etc. but yes, after 10-15 years i recomend replacing all the rubber bushings and shocks and the car will perform way better and be as silent as new again.
hello! buy the Haynes repair manual. most of the torque settings for all the screws are there. I can’t remember the value exactly now and i’m away from my garage atm
Sorry, but your pipe was too wide for the job, you should make one just a little big than the exterior of the bush...then will be a breeze. :) Anyway thanks for the video, I needed just to see how Honda's suspension are built. Glad to see people working themselves on their cars and not going to a indie garage. .
@@kieranbonnie7729 i can't remember exactly but this is the set i used www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Press-And-Pull-Sleeve-Kit-Bush-and-Bearing-Removal-Set/282777137419?hash=item41d6d4b10b:g:YcYAAOSw0JpV6wzC from all that set i just used the bigest one to push the bushing back in
being the first time i did something like this it took like say 5-6 hours but a more experienced mechanic could probably knock this job out in 2-3 hours
It's videos like this that really help. Bushing is the only part of my spaceship that I haven't touched. I've done brakes, oil, filters, spark plugs etc. But I was always afaid of how much effort this took (especially after reading the service manual). There's so many little tricks I didn't know that might not be Honda approved but that are much easier lol.
Thanks a lot.
You're welcome!
PS:
sooo worth it!
the car is so silent now while passing over wholes and bumps in the road!!!
An easier way to remove them bushing is to drill them through first, take middle bit out as much as you can, and then use a mini hack saw (think its called junior hack saw). You have to turn the blade upside down and put blade through the old bushing and then connect the handle/frame to blade, and saw the bushing metal part and it come right out like a jiffy.
Removing the old bushings is actually as easy as it sounds without special tools. I just hammered a screwdriver all the way through in 4 positions at 90degrees, spraying copious wd40. Then just hammer the screwdriver through and against inner edge the flange and it will just ease its way out nicely. It wasn't even necessary to move the position of the screwdriver but it may be useful in some cases. Installed it with a homebrew version of the correct tool you're using, although I do wish I had one!!
yeah it makes sense having those push-puller tools, i used them in the front on the wishbone bushings also.
I am really greatful about the the video you have done with the. spaceship civic. No one has uploaded this yet.
I have done every suspensions/bushings/links except this one. I left the beast for last. But after I have seen your video, I am quiet confident with that. I only afraid of the old brake pipes, hope they won't snap.
Anyway, let's do it! Thanks.
Glad to help!
It’s a fairly easy job really.
please do the screwdriver/wd40 trick.
it s a timesaver
@@ParallaxVisuals will do
ok so 3 years down the line the bushings failed an MOT again.
I think the best ones to fit are the solid polypropylene ones but i’ll put another “normal” ones , these ones I’ve bought from Eurocarparts.
Let’s hope these last longer than 3 years.
Salut l'ami les miens sont bon à changer aussi ( civic 8 type s 2.2 i-ctdi) mai j'hésite à m'être caoutchouc ou polyuréthane. Pouvez vous me conseiller
Nice video! I remember doing these on my 2.2 cdti. Absolute Pain to do. Ended up using a blow torch to burn out the rubber in the old bushing then used a hacksaw and hammer and chisel to tap it out. Problem is that the bushes are so big, most press tool sets wont have a big enough adapter. I also had to make my own tool to press the new one in.
Manish Patel if you use a screwdriver like i did the second time and wd40 it comes out like a charm
it was a pain but worth it.
i saved loads of money on that .
Parallax Visuals Yup definitely worth it. I’ll give it a go like this next time ( hopefully I won’t have to do this again). Burning the rubber out is a messy job not to mention toxic. Crazy how Honda don’t sell the bushes separately and expect you to buy an entire new rear beam!
Good video as mine are in same condition. I feel confident to do it my self now as a garage owner claiming the whole axle needs to come off. Wanted £600
yeah, go for it man!
not a complicated job at all.
Brilliant video I'm going to have to done mine soon I'm hoping it will be easier now you have done this video much appreciated
happy to help!
Ok so after doing some research that bar is not called a torsion bar it’s called (SOLID REAR AXLE) people can’t find videos on how to do it because they are searching up the wrong name try searching ( Honda Civic solid rear axle bushings replacement )
I have to replace a beam so this video helps a bit to undarstend what sh...t I'll go through, thanks :)
you’re welcome.
next up, the engine mounts.
Easy way to do these type of "axel bushes" is to remove rear wheels. Drop rear shocks off and pull/pop out springs. Take off caliper bolts and unclip brake pipes off the axel and handbrake cables. Should then be able to remove both retaining bolts for the beam bushes. Lower axel and do it on the ground . You can burn out bushes or drill out the rubber then get a cold chisel and fold a v into the outer plastic/nylon/metal skin of the bush dont forget to mark the axel what way the bushes sit. Get a drill with wire wheel attachments clean out the bush housing on the axel . Fit new bush. Always recommended fitting polybushes as they have a very easy fitment. Cleaning and removing all old bush from the housing is very important then reverse your procedure for fitting
Lewis that sounds like the way more complicated version:))
No, just... No.
next up in the honda saga :
Installing a tow bar with electrics.
again, no video on the entire internet about how to do that on this civic
What is the part number/brand ? Is the same for the 1.8 5 doors?
The bush would come out a lot easier into standard puller cups IF you angle grinded/ cut the flare off the old bush. I swear honda designed the flare on the bush just to make it harder to remove!
The new bush can then be pulled in with a flat plate on the flare end.
Yes, remove the flared end off the old bush first. 👍🏻
hi did you have an issue with lining up the bolts in rear beam when reinstalling, cant seem to get the bolts to line up and screw in?
Thanks man really good video
Cezar Christian you’re welcome!
i’m doing some Suzuki GS250FW full restauration clips now if you’re interested
Thanks for this video!
Q: is it safe to jack up this Honda from the middle of the axle as you put the jack there? Isn't it a movable part in terms of safety?
hello!
that middle jack only supports the weight of the arm NOT the car's weight.
Hi... One question please.How many km did the car have when you replacing the rear bushings? I have the same car and i have more noice from rear axle. My car has 134.000 km
hello! i had like 120000 miles, times that by 1.6 192000 km. i also swapped the front shock absorbers at around the same milage.
it made the ride smoother deffinetly.
my plan is to swap the front bushings also on the wishbone and the engine bushings as there is rattling going on somewhere.
i love this car, it's perfect for me hence me taking care of it like that.
@@ParallaxVisuals Thank you my friend !! Very good..i have noice from the front suspension and A few days ago I changed the spare parts with these codes.Meyle 31-16 060 0002/HD MEYLE 31-14 615 0000 MEYLE 31-16 020 055/HD AND 0054/HD MEYLE 31-16 030 0019 AND 0020.. and the result is amazing. Noise, crunching no longer exists. Do you have a messenger to send you 2 videos to listen to the noise?
jim paparas yeah : m.facebook.com/technologydj.backspace
It’s not entirely up to mileage for bushing to be replace. There’s other factors, such as quality, weather etc. so you’d really need to check these things on regular basis.
Hi, what was the internal diameter of the pipe you made to go over the bush lip to remove it?
Thanks
i can't remember exactly, but it needs to be slightly bigger then the outside lip of the bushing
Will the bushings in the link fit a civic 2.2 diesel 2006 uk model. Great job with this video very informative and make it look easy.
I think they will, go under the car and see if stuff looks the same, japanese people are very practical when it comes to standardisation, I don't see a reason for them to change anything in the rear of the vehicle on diesel models.
Cox motor parts.
I removed the large bolt,(i didnn't need to remove brake pipes)drilled through the rubber with a drill bit (used for drilling wood type), used a reciprocating saw(or hacksaw blade)to cut through the remaining rubber and plastic outer sleeve taking care not to cut the metal sleeve of the arm.(just one single cut required) Persuaded the bush out by using an old flat end screwdriver and hammer(making note of bush orientation). I improved the plastic taper on the edge of the new bush before attempting to insert it by sanding or grinding it using angle grinder(lightly to make the taper about 8mm long). Tapped it home using a hammer on the PLASTIC outer edge of the bush,working around the outer edge to sink it in squarely. No bush/bearing tool required. Work safely guys. Just need to find the correct torque settings for the big bolt ? anyone ?
I did not find anything in the Haynes repair manual about the torque setting for those bolts so i did my best to replicate the force i used to unbolt them:D
I know it's old but -- service manual
14 x 1,5 mm
101 N·m
(10,3 kgf·m).
I looked at the part in the manual for disassembling the rear beam.
Thanks !
Great video! Any chance for link for this bushes?
Jay Isajevs rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F172017156951
@@ParallaxVisuals was there no poly bush options for it ?
I wonder what if i use a hammer drill for taking out the bushes ? i will give it a try Nice job !
i recomend the screwdriver + WD40 method if you want things going smooth. With a hammer drill you will brake the press tool 100%
This Civic is different from my 2008, there’s no solid connection between the two rear wheels, and they’re held in by two bolts.
Hi good video. Where did you get your bushes from?
ebay
@@ParallaxVisuals any
Is this the reason mine sounds like something hitting real hard in my rear suspension when I hit a bump it i replaced shocks and springs and still sounds like bam bam every time I hit a bump ? Somebody help me please ?
you have to realise these cars are not as silent as say a mercedes e class etc.
but yes, after 10-15 years i recomend replacing all the rubber bushings and shocks and the car will perform way better and be as silent as new again.
if you replaced the springs and shocks the only thing left are these bushes, i guarantee that they are making the noise.
Do these fit the 1.8 ?
1.8 yes, i'm pretty sure they fit all the civic hatchback generation 8
Have u part number trying to find brushing need to change mine
hi!
please find the ebay link in the video description
@@ParallaxVisuals ok found
A question friend, could you tell me the torque of the screws? ... Thank you!
hello!
buy the Haynes repair manual. most of the torque settings for all the screws are there.
I can’t remember the value exactly now and i’m away from my garage atm
haynes.com/en-gb/honda/civic/2007-2008-18-petrol-189917
Hi can you tell what was the symptoms as my civic swinging ass on any movement of steering wheel while driving. Can you help please
if it’s swinging most definitely your front shock absorbers are completely shot and your suspension is only in the springs , hence the swinging.
the symptoms were excessive rattle noise coming from the back
Have you still got car
Sorry, but your pipe was too wide for the job, you should make one just a little big than the exterior of the bush...then will be a breeze. :)
Anyway thanks for the video, I needed just to see how Honda's suspension are built. Glad to see people working themselves on their cars and not going to a indie garage.
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He used that because the bush had a lip which protrudes past the hole its sat in
that's exactly what i did man, went to the iron shop, found a pipe slightly bigger than the outside lip of the bushing for the removal side.
@@ParallaxVisuals although I've since discovered you can just cut the lip off and use the tool in your set. Still a great video thank you very much.
good video.why change it< please
i had some noise when running over potholes/ speed bumps etc
What size pipe diameter did you use on the back as a cup?
And is that an 80mm cup you used to push the new one back in?
@@kieranbonnie7729 i can't remember exactly but this is the set i used www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Press-And-Pull-Sleeve-Kit-Bush-and-Bearing-Removal-Set/282777137419?hash=item41d6d4b10b:g:YcYAAOSw0JpV6wzC
from all that set i just used the bigest one to push the bushing back in
How long did it take to replace both bushes?
being the first time i did something like this it took like say 5-6 hours but a more experienced mechanic could probably knock this job out in 2-3 hours
@@ParallaxVisuals thanks, I'm about to attempt it in my own honda will reserve the weekend for it then haha
@@Shakis87 make sure it’s a warm day:)) i froze doing this .
good luck!
@@ParallaxVisuals hhahaha February in Scotland, I'll not exoect too much lok
I'm doing this job per 15 min
good for you !
'put the tripod in' ahahahaha brooo its a jack stand
i’m a video guy, it’s a tripod in my world:))) the car thing is just a hobby for me
@@ParallaxVisuals havaha im just messing. Love your videos tho💯😂