Mountain Bike Brakes 2 - TRP 2.3mm Rotors: Next level performance.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มี.ค. 2022
- In this video, I'll update you on how the 2.0mm Galfer rotors are going and why I stopped using them.
Plus, I discuss the new brake rotors I'm now using that have so many performance benefits.
This is also a follow up video to those who sent me messages and dm's on youtube and instagram about the brake set up and the questions of what you experienced.
1. Issues with Galfer 2.0mm rotors 01:38
2. Searching for a solution 02:34
3. Found what I was looking for 02:58
4. Weight of TRP rotors 04:38
5. Comparative weights 05:12
6. Thickness of each rotor 05:43
7. The importance of brake pads 06:24
8. Pro tip on installing new pads on old rotors 08:36
9. TRP real time performance, my take - 09:21
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We always appreciate your honest and up front reviews. I just wanted to explain a couple things. Firstly, the "popping noise" heard when applying pressure to your brakes with our rotors are 100% designed to do just that. We spent much time developing a rotor that would vent the hot gasses produced by the brake pads "the popping noise" the bigger cutouts on our rotors are designed to take a big gulp of air and as it passes through the pads and gets compressed then almost give you an exhaust note on exit which will cool the rotor and pad surface simultaneously. Secondly it looks like your pad sweep was off by about 2-3mm too high, so you where not even getting full pad contact. never the less, TRP makes a fantastic product! Also know that we take your criticism carefully to mind when developing our new products. keep an eye out for our new Disc Shark® and floating rotor that will be a true floating rotor both axial and radial!
keep up the video's and good work!
Thank you for the explanation, I'm sure it will help others as well as it helped me in understanding. When I called to get an tech answer, no one seemed able to explain what you did right here. So thank you for that.
This is why I love this brand lol, even though I have trp brakes I still use galfer PRO pads and they definitely changed how my old avid brakes felt
yeah having gotten a tank of an ebike with single piston and 180mm rotor i can say the turkey sound is real. stopping a heavy bike doing 20/33 mph with a single piston is okay but it can be better. your videos just confirms i need to spend more money on dual piston and bigger rotors, i guess xmas is coming early lol.
I bought a fuel ex 7 that came standard with a TRP brake system which I didn't like at all, I installed some Shimano model XT and the discs of the same brand didn't work, they folded like paper. Having saved the trp rotors, I just installed them as you show in your video and what a surprise I was, it brakes excellent, the discs do not bend with the heat and goodbye vibration to the front of the bicycle, thanks for the contribution!
Excellent Vid 😎 Thanks i Just got a set of Saints and Need Pads 😁
They look badass. Imma get them and when i replace the magura levers with Shimanos imma have ShiguraP brakes
I immediately subscribed when you said you didn't do this for sponsors 😅. I've been trying to see if people fit 2.0mm rotors to shimano 4 piston brakes. Looks like it will work and I have some 2.0 magura mdr-c (ebike) 1 piece rotors to try. cheers.
Awesome video! Now I need a bike to try out some brakes
Do it…
Cool video! I recently bought my first ebike(Levo) after owning countless mtbs. I still own a hardtail and full sus all mountain bike. I have had good experiences with Sram, Shimano and most recently, TRP brakes.
I put some trp dhr evos on and was blown away with how great they are. They worked great for first few weeks until my new Nobl tr41 wheels showed up with Onyx classic centerlock hubs.
Not sure what I did but I lost the amazing lever feel in the rear. It looks like I have a slight bend on the rear rotor and its enough to push the pistons in as it rotates. The lever feels great in the garage after I purge it but when I get out to the trails, the lever pulls way further than it should. If i pump them up while riding, they are good. If I ride for few minutes and dont use the rear brake, the lever pulls way too far once I use it. I have bleed the rear brake and purged the lever over and over.
I am going to see if I can get the slight bend out of the rotor. Thats the only thing I can think of that would do this! Ahhhhh
Cool video again!
It could be the bent rotor has warn down the pad on one side. I would also purchase new set of pads and try the lever. Could also have some bubbles in the brake line, another possibility.
I ran some ASHIMA AiNEON ARO-10 6 and had my fast wheelset to service and ran some magura storm sl on my spare wheelset. I used shimano xt brakes and with the magura they was worlds better without changing a thing besides the rotors. I would like to try some trp brakes now. :)
This video confirms to me my problem Ive been experiencing with my SRAM G2 Cleansweeps with BB7s. Rear 160mm isn't so bad. But the 180mm front is very noisy with the slot cutting noises that I can feel jittering away thru my rigid fork. Probably putting extra pits in my headset bearings. TRP RS01E don't seem to come in 160mm. :(
Can you put some test and sound of TRP 2.3 on that XTR breaks.
I ordered the galfer wave 2.0 for my ebike on Tuesday. They shipped from Poland to Germany to my house in Florida on Thursday which is insane.
I consider the TRP 2.3mm but there were mixed opinions as to whether they’d actually fit.
I’ve got pretty crappy brakes (tektro auriga 2 pots), but I’m hoping the bigger rotors and ceramic/metallic pads will make a noticeable improvement
That's the other problem with galfer rotors are they ship them sometimes from outside the USA. Sometimes the rotors can get bent coming from such a trek. So make sure they come to you straight not bent because this will ruin your experience as they will rub if you are unable to straighten them out.
Great video. I’m also looking to improve on my Shimano 1.8 rotors. I run saints with mtx gold pads but don’t find them quite powerful. Perhaps I didn’t bed them properly or most likely bc I’m 225 lbs. TRP site shows the TR42 rotors at 2.3 thick. Wondering if this is new from TRP. Thanks in advance.
I've recently installed TRP 2.3 mm rotors for my Saint brakes. After bedding in they became so powerful that I have gone OTB not expecting this amount of power. Really worth every penny!
How does thicker rotors give you more power? I keep hearing that but don't understand how
@@Rickie-37 A part of it is subjective as with thicker rotors you get the bite point faster and feel more power. But the other thing is that they don't get hot so fast, so they maintain optimal braking parameters during longer descends. As there is no fade, you get that bite when you need to brake more after you have been slowing down before.
Yea the whole bite point thing still puzzles me. In automotive and motorcycles, the piston will just stay out further as the pads and rotors wear down. I guess if you bleed it with the pistons out a bit it would feel the same with thinner rotors? @@alfrednOObel2
thats not rotor related if they are the same size.
@@MrSupermugen I have changed only the rotors, and my brakes are more powerful.
Maybe it is not direct, but thicker rotors need less cooling, so less holes. Less holes = more contact surface = more friction = better breaking.
you should take a look at Swiss stop and Disco branded kevlar pads.
5ektrosare awesome. 5hinkin of getting it. But i already got a bucklos 2.0 thickness floating rotor. it's good for roads frommy testing
thanks for the video, helpfull!
do you know if the trp pads can be used on sram 4 piston rotors?
I would like to try that combination just before changed the full code rsc setup for a shimano xt with trp rotors or even full trp dhr setup.
i am not getting all sorted with the rsc from new.
Great question, I would contact TRP and ask them. I do know that MTX makes pads for sram 4 piston rotors in the gold, and they work amazing!
I have those rotors on my new Roscoe 9 with TRP evo slate brakes and mate those are badass,but i was wondering can you tell me if i go up with those even higher end rotors TRP TR-42 2,3mm will day fit on my breaks,cause on site it said only for dh-r and E-bikes !? Thx
Hmm, you might want to call TRP about that. They have great customer service and they will direct you. Cheers.
I have mixed Shimano icetech pads before with good results. One side resin and other metallic in the same caliper... Great info you are providing..
Hmm, never thought of trying that method, sounds good.
Interesting...
Some pro riders do that.
I have a set of shimano XTs . I tried ice tec rotors first they sucked so bad warped after every ride constantly need to true the rotors . Awesome video just bought a set of trp 2.3 rotors i wasnt sure if they would fit but after watching this im sold!!
You got to try the galfer purple pads they are so good.
Did the 2.3 rotors fit your shimano xt ? M8120 ?
@@bathg1 yes they fit perfectly just installed them last night. Just make sure you clean and reset your caliper pistons :D
Thanks 😁
Can you send some photos or a video with fitment and clearance??
@@bathg1 this video shows the clearance very well. It all works great.
Love this video man!
No one has a legit review on these rotors. I'm running Shimano RT66 203mm front & back with MTX red label pads. I'm considering TRP RS01E like yours but unsure if I should reduce my rear to 180mm (like your setup). This is the first time I've had 203mm in the back and man....they STOP.
Also considering TRP pads for my XT 4 pistons. Are they better than MTX?
What do you think?
BTW....I'm riding a 2020 Rocky Mountain Instinct BC.
What you’ll notice on mtx pads vs TRP metallic sintered pads is that one, the mtx have a quicker bite point.
Next, trp pads are not as immediate in bite but they’re just as powerful . Furthermore, trp pads have more modulation. I’ve come to like it really. Also, trp pads are more affordable in price. But really, you can’t go wrong with either though.
Honestly, a rear 180mm TRP rotor that is 2.3mm is going to feel like a 203mm rotor that’s 1.8mm thick. You can run the trp rear 203mm but I think it’s overkill.
But remember, if you watch the video. If you go with the TRP rotors choose your pads and stick with them. If you use new and different pads that are on old rotors, those old rotors are gonna scream like turkeys.
TRP rotors and pads for the xt 4 piston brakes are gonna be legit, you’ll love the powerful performance. You just have to re-adjust the caliper because the clearance is tight.
Let me know how it works for you. Ride on…
I put the Galfer rotors on a downhill bike with old, rebuilt guide R brakes. They stop really well and also make that same noise. I just use the noise as a reminder to start riding better and let off the brakes
What pads do you use sir?
@@cocoplops4982 EBC red and sram pads
@@cocoplops4982 as of right now that setup works better than my code RSC, but I think those need a full rebuild
I have Code Rs on my new DH bike and they feel really bad. There’s visibility a large gap between the rotor and pads and the brake feel reflects that. There a big dead zone at the beginning of the brake pull. Thinking about getting these to reduce that dead zone.
Yeah a 2.3mm rotor would fill that up, sounds like they would fit.
I'm not sure why everyone seems to constantly say Shimano brakes are "on or off" or "they have no modulation". If you want to actually see what brakes that are like that feel like, try out old Hayes Nines. Shimano Saints/Zees/XTRs most definitely DO have modulation, it's just that it's only a few MM of lever travel between no brakes and full brakes. They force you to be much more delicate on the brake levers, but once you learn how to modulate them, oh baby what power and control they provide. Yes they are pretty touchy, but what do you prefer, a brake with all kinds of modulation but next to no power like Hopes, or with great modulation like SRAMs but zero reliability or brakes that are a bit touchier, but are very reliable and have way more power?
I prefer my new TRP DH Evo brakes, serious power, a little modulation and power to throw you over the bars. All while staying cool in constant braking descents. For a guy who is 215 without a pack, I love power. I will never uses SRAM brakes again. They have to be the most unreliable brakes on the market and they fade in prolonged descents losing power to stop. The TRP's are not lightest as say a SRAM or Shimano XT or XTR 4 piston but they are also not as expensive either. Priced right...
I don’t know but I have the seal codes rsc with 203mm rotors front and rear trp. And they never let me down. Love them
I don't hate the Shimano they just don't have much feel to them, coming from dirtbikes you appreciate having reliable modulation like the trp DHR or most SRAM brakes. I have run 3 sets of codes RSC and sram db8 they are super reliable for me. Idk if I'm the outlier everyone shit on SRAM brakes for various reasons but I've been impressed with the feel and reliability...
SRAMS are bomb proof if you do normal maintenance
that noise at 1:50 isn't necessarily bad, I believe it's just the rotor "gaps" slicing through your pads, it helps keeping them clean. I find the low speed noise strange though since I've had great experiences with galfer products and they were not noisy at all.
I was using TRP 2.3mm rotors and now switched the the Galfer Shark tooth rotor at 2.0. Silent and no issues, plus they look pretty aggressive. Love em.
@@travelthenarrowtrail8660 why the change? :0, just ordered some trp rotors, I'm afraid they will be too heavy
@@travelthenarrowtrail8660Would you say the Galfer shark tooth rotor is better than the TRP 2.3?
@@Montezuma0 So, I've been using the shark tooth rotor. It's pretty good in all aspects, except for heat on long descents. The TRP rotor dissipates heat better due to its thickness. However, the shark rotors are lighter, which makes less rolling mass and creates a snappier wheel.
Whats that buzzing noise from the rotor.
Can i use shimano mt-200 with this TRP disks? or do I have problems with the regulation?
I believe they would work with those too.
Any idea if these will fit shimano br-mt520 4 piston?
Thanks in advance
That I'm not sure of, unless they look like the XT or XTR 4 piston brakes they will.
The galfer noise that flutters that you demonstrated ,could you feel this fluttering when braking too through the lever? As I have this issue on my front galfer wave rotor and the feel is more annoying that the noise.
I have switched to the Galfer Shark rotors and have had no issues in any way. More quieter too.
Better than the trp?
The best pads I've found (Shimano or sram code) is the same as many manufacturers get from Chinese manufacturer santa brakes, they're the green ceramic ones on ali, about 2$ for a set 😂
There's nothing good in them aside quietness
Can you use the Shimano pads with the TRP rotor?
Yes.
thicker rotors makes them more powerful?
wow perfect review,thats what i need on my e bike cooking them pads for dinner with thin 203mm rotors😅😅downhill almost 60mph on diy e bike look at my channel.very nice video once again 💪🏼👌👌😎
I have Shimano SLX Brakes M7100 series , can i put this TRP 2.3mm rotors with original Shimano pads ?
I don't see why not. Hey, you can install them on the wheels, line up the caliper and see. The clearance is small but it will work. If they are rubbing all the way then they won't. If they don't work, return them to the retailer.
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Will 2.3 rotors fit on code rsc (rainbow bolts)?
That I am not sure.
have you tried trp red? i just got new trp rotors this video making me wanna get gold instead and bed them into the fresh rotors
Are you talking about MTX red brake pads? If so, yes I’ve tried them. They are good too but not as noticeable in power as the gold.
I just got some TRP DH-R evo brakes and can’t decide between the red or gold label MTX pads on my Santa Cruz Nomad. I have SRAM code R brakes now, with HS2 rotors and red label pads and feels great at the start of a DH run but twords the bottom they fade and lose about 50% power. I don’t know if it’s because of the SRAM code brakes, the rotors, the pads, or what?
Did you ever tried Trickstuff rotors or pads?
No, very difficult to obtain in the USA.
I hope they're not brushed aluminum lol
Tektro is Shimano so technically they do make 2.0 and 2.3 rotors
not true, tektro is trp. Shimano is not affiliated.
@@seanhornchek6440 tektro is owned by shimano. As in and including Tektro Racing Products...
@@MancWithAMouth TRP and Tektro are not owned by shimano buddy.
@@seanhornchek6440 Can't remember er exactly what it was but the 2 companies defo in cahoots..... Sall good tho the bits I've seen they defo connected.
Aluminium? I don't think so....
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Do not get these 2.3mm rotors with your shimano brskes it is too thick.
Incorrect, they work and work amazing. Just push your pistons flush with your calipers and you’ll be fine.
Nah there's nothing mixed about maguras, aside some reviews. 2:45 they are good and wider