MTB Rotor Size Comparison! Do Bigger Rotors Stop Better?

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  • @FATTY1990
    @FATTY1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Larger Rotors do make a difference i tested this myself on a cheap store bought bike and had the rotors laying around for a new build and it may be a small difference but it could be the differcence between life or death

  • @dynamitedanny3531
    @dynamitedanny3531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You're telling me this free content was performed by a guy without a PHD in Physics outside of a multi million dollar laboratory? CLICKBAIT

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You MONSTER!

  • @dreadsanddirt5966
    @dreadsanddirt5966 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I run gigantic rotors (220/203) and the hand effort required to control speed is DRASTICALLY less. I play guitar for a living so anything I can do to alleviate sore hands from riding is a welcome change.

    • @VoodooJeff
      @VoodooJeff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @SlaveLaboringKid well, I had my first bmx race in 1984, been on a mtn since 1997. I've ridden some of the biggest, steepest, most beautiful places on earth over the years and at one point thought I'd be really cool and get my pro card so I suppose I know my way around a bicycle. Not to mention I weigh 220lbs so having a bit of extra brakes goes a long way. I've been over my bars plenty of times in the 40 years I've ridden and I can't say any of them was due to having too much brake power :-)

    • @cunning-stunt
      @cunning-stunt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @slavelaboringkid7597 Only if you are a complete novice. More likely that you will roll an endo down the slope. I ride steep loose rocky and steep dirt trails, if you are going over the bars then you have your CG in the wrong place on the bike. Larger rotors dissipate heat better and offer greater brake modulation which means less brake fade and more traction control.

  • @KNGER1988
    @KNGER1988 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a heavy ebike and I'm over 200lbs myself. Thank you for this video you talked me into it

  • @iangustafsson
    @iangustafsson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Neat comparison Kyle; another amazing video!

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate that Ian!

  • @serpadu
    @serpadu ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What about a cheap (RT54) vs intermediate (RT70) vs expensive (RT905) test? Same bike, same calipers, same diameter. Ideally on a long paved descent, to see how they handle the heat, if the cheapest warps... I've used randomly in different bikes various rotor levels, but can't really judge if there's a braking performance difference between a slx and a xtr rotor. It is probably very difficult to differentiate them in a blind test even agains the cheaper ones, like RT26.

  • @jamesdiamond1582
    @jamesdiamond1582 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I put 203mm rotors front and rear on my lectric e bike with tektro aries calipers metallic pads gotta say it did the trick
    I am Towing a 95lb black lab in a trailer 😂😅🤘👍🎥

  • @harrygrimley4352
    @harrygrimley4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was a good informative video. Thank you. I wondered.

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Harry!

  • @JaredRMorgan
    @JaredRMorgan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Time to see if I know what I'm talking about or if I'm full of garbage! LMAO. Legit excited for the result.

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Turns out you're full of garbage, and science proved it! lol

  • @harrygrimley4352
    @harrygrimley4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Don't forget, if you ate or drank anything during the test you change the weight and thus momentum. Peeing will change it also.

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Oddly enough I had to pee the whole time while filming this. Probably why I made that first mistake lol. There were no bathrooms there and I didn't want to skew the results. I'm committed to my craft!

    • @harrygrimley4352
      @harrygrimley4352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CobraKyle clearly. Part of why we like you

    • @thepro08
      @thepro08 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      what about if he farts during braking? lool

  • @dmapp899
    @dmapp899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. Could you please make another similar video but using 4 piston brake caliper? Thank you in advance! Cheers!

  • @fishrideandski4910
    @fishrideandski4910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i was thinking about getting new bigger rotors so this should be useful

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was pretty happy with the results. I guess it was worth the money!

  • @how2ssipp793
    @how2ssipp793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! Love the vids

  • @bradley3549
    @bradley3549 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have 220 front and rear on 27.5 and honestly, I think I'm going to downsize to 200. I'm fairly lightweight and I feel like I have better modulation with smaller rotors.

  • @komoonkh
    @komoonkh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Imagine those metallic pads when they are bedded in. Hah.

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Very true! The results could have been even more drastic!

  • @KillerArcadeGames
    @KillerArcadeGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That E-Bike is far too much fun! Its actually perfect if you want someone to help film, I didn't complain once about frequently going up and down a parking garage...I also didn't pedal! haha. Cobra Kyle now has 10,000 subs!! Congratulations!

  • @jasonbrown467
    @jasonbrown467 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i skipped to the results so i didnt watch the whole thing but from a leverage stand point, it should most definitely give you more stopping power. honestly i always thought this was more about dealing with heat dissipation, but that may be an added benefit?

  • @shawnalove5050
    @shawnalove5050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't watch till the end because it seemed flawed, in that he didn't mention bedding any of the new brake pads. Unless of course it was s test to see how brand new, unbedded pads and discs stop compared to each other.

  • @MikeBMW
    @MikeBMW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice vid, Kyle, thanks!
    However, you should be wearing a Cobra Kyle T-Shirt just as I'm doing at this moment. :)

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Michael! I really should be wearing that shirt at all times lol. I appreciate you wearing yours!

  • @SteveZ1
    @SteveZ1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you. Good work.

  • @billr5756
    @billr5756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What happens when you put metallic pads on resin-only disks? Seems like this would be the cheapest upgrade.

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Great question! I researched it a little and it's something you probably wouldn't want to do. Those rotors aren't designed to handle the heat/friction that metal pads generate, so it will most likely be very loud, not stop as well, and I saw some reports of it actually warping the rotor.

  • @phil5073
    @phil5073 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a newbie in mtbiking.
    Let's say he has only 180 and 203...
    How should should you modulate brakes in steep rocky corners and what rotor setup shoud you use?
    A) 180F/203R - front modulation
    B) 203F/180R - front modulation
    C) 180F/203R - rear modulation
    D) 203F/180R - rear modulation

    • @TheWrigle
      @TheWrigle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty much always run the bigger rotor up front as it does like 70% of the braking. As you brake, your weight shifts forward making it very easy to skid the rear brake. Having a more powerful rear won't do much if you don't have a more powerful front to match as your back with just brake traction while you are trying to brake the front end.

  • @jecanvlogs1090
    @jecanvlogs1090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello...can you help me?floating 160mm rotor and regular 160mm rotor same size diameter??no need to put adapter when you install it in your bike?

    • @durk541
      @durk541 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No need

  • @zap...
    @zap... ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you properly bedding in the rotors and pads before testing?

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I did...just didn't film that part

  • @TrailFeatures
    @TrailFeatures 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Excuse me, but you failed to take into account the weight of the moon's shadow in these test. if you were taking this _seriously_ you would have accounted for such a basic variable. *TEST INVALID.*

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      "You're telling me this free content was performed by a guy without a PHD in Physics outside of a multi million dollar laboratory? CLICKBAIT". I'm looking forward to these comments lol

    • @_lucifer_gaming_
      @_lucifer_gaming_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CobraKyle 🤣

    • @MTBRadDad
      @MTBRadDad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣

  • @ramainvicta
    @ramainvicta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a hybrid commuter bike that I use everyday to work. Do you think it's a good idea to replace 160mm to 203mm. I really like the look of bigger rotor.

    • @danielyusupov1447
      @danielyusupov1447 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think 180 would be better because jump from 160 to 200 is too big for adapter.

    • @adeverel
      @adeverel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danielyusupov1447 I just put 203s on a stock 140 so it can be done.

  • @Faceless009
    @Faceless009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have fornt 180 and rear 160 and I have the old 180 disc rotor that is in solid condition and i would probably swap rear so then i will have 180 in front and 180 in back, is that a good idea?

    • @fraserthomson5766
      @fraserthomson5766 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would bin the 160 and run the 180 on back, 203mm on front. Failing that, add 4 piston caliper on front, 2 piston on rear.

  • @kshaffer1964
    @kshaffer1964 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not a very scientific test... the slightest difference in the pressure placed on the brake levers will affect the outcome. Without consistency and measurable input, the output is flawed.

  • @Semprefi
    @Semprefi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’d be interested to see the results of a test with the 180/160 rotors and metallic pads so we could know which alteration was responsible for the better braking results the pads or bigger rotors or both

  • @trevorschnedler4472
    @trevorschnedler4472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Does anyone in mtb worry about hitting their rotors on rocks? I've never seen it, so I figure it's rare but I guess it could be a downside to bigger rotors.

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You raise a good question! I've never had any issues with this, but definitely a larger area for rocks to strike.

    • @Skippy-id9yt
      @Skippy-id9yt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More likely to smash the frame first (for my forks or rear triangle ) ,perhaps dropping Ng down in not them is possible off rocks etc though ?

    • @cunning-stunt
      @cunning-stunt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Derailleurs hang far lower and stick out side ways more than any rotor.
      A 10-52 tooth rear cassette is the same diameter as a 200mm rotor.
      Never managed to hit the cassette with a rock.

  • @markjwoodford1931
    @markjwoodford1931 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those metal pads take a lot of bedding in!

  • @familyandfriendsadventures5782
    @familyandfriendsadventures5782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not all heroes wear capes! Now if I could just find some 203 RT86's in stock anywhere...

  • @navykip
    @navykip 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the new bike 🚲.

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I really like it too!

  • @galaxyfit5666
    @galaxyfit5666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's like 26 inch and 27.5 inch

  • @GoodTrails
    @GoodTrails 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SCIENCE!!!!!

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to "Cobra Kyle's Fun with Science Super Extravaganza Power Hour"

  • @benjaminbotelho336
    @benjaminbotelho336 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this test is flawed because you're using brand new brakes without bedding them in.

    • @EvoX180
      @EvoX180 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have been bedded in

    • @Semprefi
      @Semprefi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but none of the combinations were bedded so while the stopping distance may have changed with bedding all combos had the same handicap

  • @Covid-mq9cp
    @Covid-mq9cp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you need to bed new rotors,

  • @BawlzOfuzz
    @BawlzOfuzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why do you have a smaller rotor on the back? Surely you want more stopping with the back brake?

    • @stefhirsch6922
      @stefhirsch6922 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You want the bigger rotor on the front. When you slow down your weight shifts forward. Thus 80% of your stopping power is your front brake whereas only 20% is your back.

    • @FightFilms
      @FightFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      To maximize efficiency, you'd probably want the bigger rotor on the brake you engage the most/longest.

    • @1911Zoey
      @1911Zoey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd want a bigger one on the back too for modulation and better heat spread (bigger surface area).

  • @Sanwizard1
    @Sanwizard1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Should have added metallic pads on small rotors first. Then ceramic pads. My little banana seat schwinn with pedal brakes in 1970 worked better than both those setups. It should lock up the wheels.

    • @CobraKyle
      @CobraKyle  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you even watch the video? lol. I addressed everything you mention in the video. The smaller rotors are only compatible with resin pads, so didn't feel like using incompatible brake pads on them would prove anything. You can easily lock up these brakes, but felt it would be easier to be consistent feathering them to a stop.

  • @popoypoop
    @popoypoop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Riding on the streets wont make that big of a deal. If u ride mtb out in the trail and steep terrain hot weather the big rotor will make a big difference

  • @warlockboyburns
    @warlockboyburns 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm using $40 4 piston ztto hydraulic brakes with 203mm rotors and they are too powerful. The wheels skid rather than slow down.

    • @warlockboyburns
      @warlockboyburns 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BostilCensurado I was boasting.

  • @caperider1160
    @caperider1160 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is so obvious from simple logic. Not even worth an experiment.
    More kinetic energy can be burned as heat for the same angular displacement, assuming equal frictional coefficient & braking force.
    Besides, much better thermal management. Heat reduces frictional coefficient for the same braking force.