Selsdon, South Croydon - a walk to explore and share its history
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2024
- This Walk & Talk video explores Selsdon and its rich history going back over a thousand years. Learn about the origins of the name, how it grew from 40 residents to many thousand in just 100 years, the "Selsdon Gap" and the remarkable stories of surviving properties in the main high street.
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Links referred to in this video:
Selsdon Residents’ Association: selsdon-residents.co.uk
Selsdon Residents’ Association Gazette - containing the shop history charts and much more: selsdon-residents.co.uk/selsd...
Explore Selsdon Walk: www.croydon.gov.uk/planning-a...
Other Croydon Area Neighbourhood and Heritage Walks: www.croydon.gov.uk/planning-a...
A great Pathé News item about golf at Selsdon Park recorded in 1939: • Golfing in Selsdon (1939)
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No1 in the 50's was the UD (United Dairies). Mrs Hudd worked there. She had been the lollipop lady at Selsdon School.
I was pupil at Selsdon primary & secondary school throughout the 50's.
The farm house opposite the Crescent was derelict, but still had a billiards table from when it had been a boys club during the war.
The village club is where you could by an ice lolly for a penny on your way home from school.
Woolworths & Sainsbury's were on the east side of the gap.
Happy days :)
Love the walks Phil brings back some lovely memories of times past
Another interesting and informative video.Note that the now defunct Selsdon station was not near Selsdon.
Yes it was Selsdon Road in South Croydon. We seem to have a thing about station naming in this area with Upper Warlingham/Whyteleafe South naming history but we are not along in this part of the country on that matter!
Interesting video, thank you. I grew up here from 1962 until 1979. Went to Selsdon Primary and then Monks Hill Secondary. Fantastic childhood here in Selsdon - such fond memories of many people and places. St Johns Church, Old Farleigh Road Recreation Ground , Selsdon Woods, Littleheath Woods, Croham Hurst and more remembered. Worked in the green grocers (Lindridge Fruiterers) for several years alongside Colin Harman and then moved to rural Kent. These were the best times by far.
Thank you Peter, I'm glad it brought back some great memories for you!
I worked for Colin Harman at Occasionally Yours in Lingfield. He was a workaholic only needing four hours sleep a night. Last I heard he bought a holiday and horse riding place on the Devon coast.
I was born in January 1951 in the front bedroom at 82 Farley Road, 5 houses up the hill from Brent Road, on the bend, where I lived until 1967. We spent many hours up in Littleheath Woods riding our billy carts and in winter hurtling down Brent field in our toboggans, swinging a hard left at the bottom to head on down the alley to Brent Road. At he bottom of the alley were two steps and a BIG lampost right in the middle which was very difficult to avoid at speed but necessary if you wanted get across Littleheath Road and then on down Brent Road. There were the two 'double ponds' up near the entrance from Foxearth Road where we would harvest frog spawn to take home and hatch. I went to Selsdon County Primary School as it was then. There was a fish and chip shop up near the Village Club where we would get two penn'erth of chips after Cubs! Across the road was a Woolworths with its wood parquet floor. At the front there was a small counter selling hot peanuts served in small greaseproof bags - YUMMO...!!! I had an idyllic childhood and many, many happy memories. There is still a group of 7 of us from our primary school class who are still in touch and although I now live in Australia, I am coming over to London and 6 of us are meeting up for lunch next month. How good is that? Phil, love yer work and thank you for jogging the old memory bank into action...!!!
I love hearing these great memories! The nostalgia value is something quite powerful in these modern times and I’m delighted that my films can provide some recollections from times gone by. Thank you for your kind comments!
I also remember tobogganing in Littleheath Woods sometimes past midnight in the 60's and 70's and flying down through the alley like you said and into the road sometimes. Good old days for sure.
I grew up in Selsdon from 1952 to 1970. We used to go up Littleheath Woods to play and for walks. The shops were very different at the time. I went to the primary school and three years ago came back for a visit and stayed at what will always be for me the Selsdon Park Hotel. I much preferred it in the 1950s.
Never thought I'd see a video on Selsdon! I live in Seldson Vale, opposite Selsdon Wood. Birch went bust btw. that'll teach them to grub out the golf course...rewilding, my arse. My parents are just off Upper Selsdon Road, which used to be Dabners' pig farm, if you'd gone down Upper Selsdon Road some of the original buildings still remain opposite Croham Hurst. The parade buildings you thought were newer have certainly been there the 46 years I have, but were only single storey in 1965 (francisfrith selsdon/photos), from the Gazzette 1935 "On the south side, there were shops down as far as Barclays Bank and then no shops until three new shops where Tudor Library now is". As for the Garage, I didn't realise the ballroom was there when it was the Selsdon Park Social Club. Yes, there was a SuperLoo and an air-raid siren where the clock now stands. Sainsbury's was the car park, *Selsdon Library* and the Community Centre / Yoof Club.
Is that Dabners anything to do with the pet shop in Croydon? Croham Hurst with the surrounding area is on my list - possibly this summer 👍🏻
@@philswallow Yes, I believe so. "At the end of the field garden was a piggery owned run by a family/company called Dabners, it was later a housing development, they also had an animal feed stall in Surrey street market"
As for Selsdon/Ashen Vale: "Just to the right of where this path enters the Bird Sanctuary, and backing on to it, was
another pig farm on what is now Quail Gardens. This one (and possibly the other one) [at the end of Ashen Vale] was owned by Mr Ockleford who had a butcher's shop in Selsdon"
It's a shame there's not a lot about Selsdon Vale smallholdings and Selsdon Wood. A few people on the memories area on francisfrith reached out with not much luck.
Great news you'll be going to my old stomping ground on the Hurst. Though we ventured far and wide as kids, Kenley Airdrome, Riddlesdown, Whiteleaf Quarry, and beyond...
@LoremIpsum1970 I hope you’ve seen my videos of all of those areas, too!
@@philswallow Just watching John Rogers London Loop 4, and will be searching your videos next! 👍
@@philswallow Couldn't find a bomb hit on the parade, but searching found: "Some of Selsdon’s Wartime Welfare, 1940/45" and
"1939 to 1945 - Selsdon Through the Eyes of a War Baby" if of any use?
Cheers Phil another great video, so many memories of my old home town, I've skateboarded everywhere you went in the video back in the 70s and early 80s lol. Had a brother work in the hotel and my old mum worked in tudor library, had my first paper round from there myself. Many memories of the shops and the people who worked there. Record store was "page 43" had a good selection of punk music 🎶
Thanks Dave, great to hear of the memories from yesteryear!
Phil, thanks for the tour. I loved the design of the old garage.
Glad you enjoyed it, Robin
The old garage (Bailey’s Garage) was the Selsdon Park Social Club in 1935, that would explain the ballroom? Were the garage/petrol pumps added later? The 28dayslater website has photos of the inside as it now stands and quotes from the francisfrith website.
Thanks for another great video
Thanks David
Thanks Phil, another interesting whirl around a local area. 😊
Thanks Julie!
Just to add one more: On francisfrith there's a post called bomb-crater_memory-370121 stating the low-rise buildings between Tudor Library and Barclays Bank was a bomb crater.
I’ll look into that, I always saw it as a rectangular parcel of spare land. The bomb site mapping of Croydon is very detailed so I will check
Time to do the walk thanks Phil
Thanks Ian
Great video! I believe Costains lived at no 1 Queenhill Road. You will notice this house is different from all the other houses in the area.
Ah that’s good to know, thanks Saileja!
Very informative thank you
Many thanks, Iris.
Used to work in Selson and drink in the Stag. Used to be a great record shop that did video rental too, but can't remember its name.
My earliest memories was the big Bejam's frozen food store and their Artic Rolls :)
Thanks for doing these videos, lots of memories.
Any chance of getting into Warlingham Park for a look round?
Thanks Andy, do you mean the site of the hospital? Now Great Park but the tower remains and it is a very nice place.
@@philswallow I guess not enough of it is left, apart from Daniels lane and the East end of Harrow road. St Leonards School (ex head boy!) still there, even if they did change its name. Perhaps a trip round Farleigh and Chelsham (Both pubs still there)?
I will do something in those areas as they tie up with some general research I'm in the middle of. The Bull is still there but the Hare & Hounds closed a while ago and is now the Spaghetti Tree restaurant
@@philswallow I meant the Harrow in Farleigh, opposite end of Harrow Road to the Bull. If you want any history about WPH then shout.
Yes that’s still there! Will do 👍🏻
I still speak with a chap who used to work at that garage . It would be great to see that building restored. The old retro building. Sadly that won't happen.
Yes it is a shame, my wish will always be that the frontage or shell of a classic building should always be retained
Yes it is a shame, my wish will always be that the frontage or shell of a classic building should always be retained
Someone said to me that no alcohol is allowed in the area due to some sort of religious law hence no pubs other than forest Dale( is that correct)
I was probably wrong about the alcohol in selsdon as there was a pub in the area sorry. Never always believe what you hear
@peterclark9677 you weren’t far off, Peter - Sanderstead had the law and it is still active although the Good Companions broke it for a few decades before closing. Restaurants are allowed to serve alcohol as they also serve food.