Selsdon, South Croydon - a walk to explore and share its history

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  • @billwilson1320
    @billwilson1320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No1 in the 50's was the UD (United Dairies). Mrs Hudd worked there. She had been the lollipop lady at Selsdon School.
    I was pupil at Selsdon primary & secondary school throughout the 50's.
    The farm house opposite the Crescent was derelict, but still had a billiards table from when it had been a boys club during the war.
    The village club is where you could by an ice lolly for a penny on your way home from school.
    Woolworths & Sainsbury's were on the east side of the gap.
    Happy days :)

    • @friuliancottage
      @friuliancottage หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I went to Selsdon Primary from 1952 to 1958 as we lived in Selsdon from 1952 to 1972. It is so different now.

    • @billwilson1320
      @billwilson1320 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@friuliancottage
      I expect you remember a few teachers then.
      Mr. Younghusband. Mrs. Carr. Mr. Howell. Upstairs Miss Treverton. Mr. Hymas Miss Johnstone. Mrs King.
      I sill have my school reports with their names ;)

  • @h9Kw7AN
    @h9Kw7AN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting video, thank you. I grew up here from 1962 until 1979. Went to Selsdon Primary and then Monks Hill Secondary. Fantastic childhood here in Selsdon - such fond memories of many people and places. St Johns Church, Old Farleigh Road Recreation Ground , Selsdon Woods, Littleheath Woods, Croham Hurst and more remembered. Worked in the green grocers (Lindridge Fruiterers) for several years alongside Colin Harman and then moved to rural Kent. These were the best times by far.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Peter, I'm glad it brought back some great memories for you!

    • @sarahwagland1559
      @sarahwagland1559 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I worked for Colin Harman at Occasionally Yours in Lingfield. He was a workaholic only needing four hours sleep a night. Last I heard he bought a holiday and horse riding place on the Devon coast.

  • @peterclark9677
    @peterclark9677 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the walks Phil brings back some lovely memories of times past

  • @DavidCollison
    @DavidCollison 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for another great video

  • @RobinHarlow
    @RobinHarlow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phil, thanks for the tour. I loved the design of the old garage.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it, Robin

    • @LoremIpsum1970
      @LoremIpsum1970 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The old garage (Bailey’s Garage) was the Selsdon Park Social Club in 1935, that would explain the ballroom? Were the garage/petrol pumps added later? The 28dayslater website has photos of the inside as it now stands and quotes from the francisfrith website.

  • @merlinscat
    @merlinscat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to be a member of the Selsdon players am dram group we performed many times at selsdon hall.

  • @irisjones2715
    @irisjones2715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative thank you

  • @julieleverentz5846
    @julieleverentz5846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Phil, another interesting whirl around a local area. 😊

  • @iangodden662
    @iangodden662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time to do the walk thanks Phil

  • @moanyamech
    @moanyamech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheers Phil another great video, so many memories of my old home town, I've skateboarded everywhere you went in the video back in the 70s and early 80s lol. Had a brother work in the hotel and my old mum worked in tudor library, had my first paper round from there myself. Many memories of the shops and the people who worked there. Record store was "page 43" had a good selection of punk music 🎶

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Dave, great to hear of the memories from yesteryear!

  • @truthseeker5911
    @truthseeker5911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There was an air raid shelter in the park where the Selsdon Tennis Club is, do you know anything about that? I remember it in the 1950s when we used to play there, it had a doorway set in concrete that sloped down underground and we used to climb up the outside of it.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I think I found its location, there is a piece of concrete with a hole in it, I believe it is inside there but didn’t have a torch with me to confirm it at the time. It’s on a slight mound.

  • @19571957able
    @19571957able 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another interesting and informative video.Note that the now defunct Selsdon station was not near Selsdon.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it was Selsdon Road in South Croydon. We seem to have a thing about station naming in this area with Upper Warlingham/Whyteleafe South naming history but we are not along in this part of the country on that matter!

  • @sailejapatel1748
    @sailejapatel1748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I believe Costains lived at no 1 Queenhill Road. You will notice this house is different from all the other houses in the area.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah that’s good to know, thanks Saileja!

  • @friuliancottage
    @friuliancottage 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I grew up in Selsdon from 1952 to 1970. We used to go up Littleheath Woods to play and for walks. The shops were very different at the time. I went to the primary school and three years ago came back for a visit and stayed at what will always be for me the Selsdon Park Hotel. I much preferred it in the 1950s.

    • @truthseeker5911
      @truthseeker5911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I started at Selsdon School in 1957 and went there for two years before we moved to New Zealand and so we may have been in the same class, we lived in Arundel Avenue.

  • @andymcgarty3099
    @andymcgarty3099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Used to work in Selson and drink in the Stag. Used to be a great record shop that did video rental too, but can't remember its name.
    My earliest memories was the big Bejam's frozen food store and their Artic Rolls :)
    Thanks for doing these videos, lots of memories.
    Any chance of getting into Warlingham Park for a look round?

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Andy, do you mean the site of the hospital? Now Great Park but the tower remains and it is a very nice place.

    • @andymcgarty3099
      @andymcgarty3099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philswallow I guess not enough of it is left, apart from Daniels lane and the East end of Harrow road. St Leonards School (ex head boy!) still there, even if they did change its name. Perhaps a trip round Farleigh and Chelsham (Both pubs still there)?

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will do something in those areas as they tie up with some general research I'm in the middle of. The Bull is still there but the Hare & Hounds closed a while ago and is now the Spaghetti Tree restaurant

    • @andymcgarty3099
      @andymcgarty3099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philswallow I meant the Harrow in Farleigh, opposite end of Harrow Road to the Bull. If you want any history about WPH then shout.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that’s still there! Will do 👍🏻

  • @sailejapatel1748
    @sailejapatel1748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still speak with a chap who used to work at that garage . It would be great to see that building restored. The old retro building. Sadly that won't happen.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it is a shame, my wish will always be that the frontage or shell of a classic building should always be retained

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it is a shame, my wish will always be that the frontage or shell of a classic building should always be retained

  • @NickFortune-j6j
    @NickFortune-j6j ปีที่แล้ว

    I was born in January 1951 in the front bedroom at 82 Farley Road, 5 houses up the hill from Brent Road, on the bend, where I lived until 1967. We spent many hours up in Littleheath Woods riding our billy carts and in winter hurtling down Brent field in our toboggans, swinging a hard left at the bottom to head on down the alley to Brent Road. At he bottom of the alley were two steps and a BIG lampost right in the middle which was very difficult to avoid at speed but necessary if you wanted get across Littleheath Road and then on down Brent Road. There were the two 'double ponds' up near the entrance from Foxearth Road where we would harvest frog spawn to take home and hatch. I went to Selsdon County Primary School as it was then. There was a fish and chip shop up near the Village Club where we would get two penn'erth of chips after Cubs! Across the road was a Woolworths with its wood parquet floor. At the front there was a small counter selling hot peanuts served in small greaseproof bags - YUMMO...!!! I had an idyllic childhood and many, many happy memories. There is still a group of 7 of us from our primary school class who are still in touch and although I now live in Australia, I am coming over to London and 6 of us are meeting up for lunch next month. How good is that? Phil, love yer work and thank you for jogging the old memory bank into action...!!!

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  ปีที่แล้ว

      I love hearing these great memories! The nostalgia value is something quite powerful in these modern times and I’m delighted that my films can provide some recollections from times gone by. Thank you for your kind comments!

    • @h9Kw7AN
      @h9Kw7AN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also remember tobogganing in Littleheath Woods sometimes past midnight in the 60's and 70's and flying down through the alley like you said and into the road sometimes. Good old days for sure.

  • @LoremIpsum1970
    @LoremIpsum1970 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never thought I'd see a video on Selsdon! I live in Seldson Vale, opposite Selsdon Wood. Birch went bust btw. that'll teach them to grub out the golf course...rewilding, my arse. My parents are just off Upper Selsdon Road, which used to be Dabners' pig farm, if you'd gone down Upper Selsdon Road some of the original buildings still remain opposite Croham Hurst. The parade buildings you thought were newer have certainly been there the 46 years I have, but were only single storey in 1965 (francisfrith selsdon/photos), from the Gazzette 1935 "On the south side, there were shops down as far as Barclays Bank and then no shops until three new shops where Tudor Library now is". As for the Garage, I didn't realise the ballroom was there when it was the Selsdon Park Social Club. Yes, there was a SuperLoo and an air-raid siren where the clock now stands. Sainsbury's was the car park, *Selsdon Library* and the Community Centre / Yoof Club.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Is that Dabners anything to do with the pet shop in Croydon? Croham Hurst with the surrounding area is on my list - possibly this summer 👍🏻

    • @LoremIpsum1970
      @LoremIpsum1970 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@philswallow Yes, I believe so. "At the end of the field garden was a piggery owned run by a family/company called Dabners, it was later a housing development, they also had an animal feed stall in Surrey street market"
      As for Selsdon/Ashen Vale: "Just to the right of where this path enters the Bird Sanctuary, and backing on to it, was
      another pig farm on what is now Quail Gardens. This one (and possibly the other one) [at the end of Ashen Vale] was owned by Mr Ockleford who had a butcher's shop in Selsdon"
      It's a shame there's not a lot about Selsdon Vale smallholdings and Selsdon Wood. A few people on the memories area on francisfrith reached out with not much luck.
      Great news you'll be going to my old stomping ground on the Hurst. Though we ventured far and wide as kids, Kenley Airdrome, Riddlesdown, Whiteleaf Quarry, and beyond...

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @LoremIpsum1970 I hope you’ve seen my videos of all of those areas, too!

    • @LoremIpsum1970
      @LoremIpsum1970 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philswallow Just watching John Rogers London Loop 4, and will be searching your videos next! 👍

    • @LoremIpsum1970
      @LoremIpsum1970 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@philswallow Couldn't find a bomb hit on the parade, but searching found: "Some of Selsdon’s Wartime Welfare, 1940/45" and
      "1939 to 1945 - Selsdon Through the Eyes of a War Baby" if of any use?

  • @anthony68
    @anthony68 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting video,such a shame selsdon is going downhill recently it has rapidly got worse in such a short space of time,thanks to social housing and the council

  • @peterclark9677
    @peterclark9677 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someone said to me that no alcohol is allowed in the area due to some sort of religious law hence no pubs other than forest Dale( is that correct)

    • @peterclark9677
      @peterclark9677 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was probably wrong about the alcohol in selsdon as there was a pub in the area sorry. Never always believe what you hear

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @peterclark9677 you weren’t far off, Peter - Sanderstead had the law and it is still active although the Good Companions broke it for a few decades before closing. Restaurants are allowed to serve alcohol as they also serve food.

  • @LoremIpsum1970
    @LoremIpsum1970 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just to add one more: On francisfrith there's a post called bomb-crater_memory-370121 stating the low-rise buildings between Tudor Library and Barclays Bank was a bomb crater.

    • @philswallow
      @philswallow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ll look into that, I always saw it as a rectangular parcel of spare land. The bomb site mapping of Croydon is very detailed so I will check