Croydon - a history walk from South End Restaurant Quarter to The Waldrons
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ม.ค. 2024
- Starting at Coombe Cross, where I left off from my Croydon walk in November, I take a walk in an area that connects to my past Croydon videos and fills in some of the gaps.
There is a mix of great architecture, rich history and the sadness of pubs and businesses that are no longer in existence.
And a big thank you once again to Graham!
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I was born in Croydon in 1965 and lived my first 11 years at The Waldrons in the middle tower block.Had an absolutely brilliant childhood round those parts and went to Howard Junior School just down the road.My dad and his mate used to drink in the Cricketers and we used to play in an old wooden stable block to the right of it where that small block of flats is now.Happy times
Brings back memories of working on these building in the area ,nice to see one of my front doors still there
The Bourne was crossed by the south bridge and it flowed Into a series of fish ponds roughly where the roundabout is. The ponds supplied the archbishops fish . The ponds lasted until the great stink of Croydon and they filled in and the Bourne /Wandle was covered over.
Thank you Peter. I do a talk on the history of Croydon Waterworks covering the post-stink era so can expand that a bit for next time. I have yet to put it to film - one day, perhaps. I also have a plan to do a history walk/film about the Wandle so I will be able to give the wider area more focus then.
The actor living in Southbridge Road was Leonard Gregory, my brother-in-law who sadly passed away some years back. He lived not in the corner house but in the one next door, a Queen Ann vintage.
Thank you John, much appreciated
Great video, lots of memories. In the 80s if going out to eat you'd head to South Croydon. Fantastic pizza bar, burger bar and even a vegetarian restaurant run by the Buddhists!
I had a part time job whilst still at school in Heathfield Road and would visit the KFC at 4am for ribs when working nights during summer hols. Happy days.
Even if we took the cars down to Cinderellas at Bolney, we would still get KFC at that same time on the way back!
Thanks for creating this. I grew up in Sanderstead and then South Croydon, mid-60s to mid-70s... live in Los Angeles now, so it's really cool to see how the old places look now without having to suffer an 11 hour plane ride.
Thanks Marco! Have you seen my Sanderstead videos, too?
@@philswallow I've seen one, and left a comment on it. I'll look for others... thanks!
Really enjoyed that. Brought back memories.😊 And yes, the Waldrons used to be quite posh! Not sure if it’s mostly converted flats now 😞
Enjoyed the video. The Waldrons I remember well from 65 years or so ago. The sea cadets place would host cub and boy scouts training sessions for badges. The head vicars at the minster, then the parish church, had their home in the Waldrons which came with the job. But worst of all, the Waldrons was the location of the dreaded school dentist where we went for extractions. The blood, the stink, the gas, the screaming and leather masks. The stuff of nightmares. Regards, Dave in Seattle.
PS, the post war well child clinic where all babies received exams, shots, milk, juice and weighing was where that red building is below the flyover next tp St Andrews Church. Its where hundreds of new mums formed friendships that lasted for several decades. An important piece of Croydon history and culture.
Great memories, I can get what an imposing location that would be for the dreaded dentist! 😁
Another great video Phil. My Father used to work in Leon House for many years so always went along the Brighton Road past the Swan and Sugar Loaf to get there. And like you, used to get the 403 from West Croydon bus station or the Fairfield Halls, via Aberdeen Road up to Sanderstead. A lot of diverse architecture I had neve really noticed in any deal - Croydon is a real mix of very old, old and ugly modern!
Looking at the skyline Dave, I thought to myself, why didn’t they build to a plan? But the way the council has (not) been run, the answer is easy and we now see the result.
@@philswallow Just about everything that council could have done wrong, they did! What a disgrace.
So sad to see so many of the pubs I used to drink in are no more, I remember my first 'lock in, was at the star, my first full time job was at Graham Ford kitchens at the top southbridge road, I seem to remember there was a cracking kebab shop down southbrige rd.
The kebab shop is still there but not much else, sadly.
I remember going up small streets from my school on Scarbrook Road to Duppas Hill where we did 'cross country running' on games afternoon. The streets have gone as has the school and the public swimming baths which were next door. I guess that you can still do laps of Duppas Hill recreation ground-always seemed such a steep hill to run up but really quite tame compared to what I ran up in future years
Great to read of your memories, David. I’ve never been to the recreation ground at Duppas Hill (that I can remember anyway), one for a future walk - I’m gradually covering all of Croydon!
There are lots of hidden pockets in Croydon I never even ventured into in my youth, the Waldron’s looks posh! Just by the flyover too I would thought it would be noisy there. I once remembered visiting heath Clark college Denning avenue I think, and wondered where it would have been sited as it’s now longer visible on maps, demolished 20 years ago it seems?! I moved away from Croydon to Sussex in 1998 so it’s interesting to see you going back and rediscovering lots of these hidden gems ! thanks for a brilliant documentary channel. 😊
Thank you for your kind comments! I’ve probably just scratched the surface but it’s fun covering these areas and seeing what stories they have to tell. I’ll be heading eastwards at some point as there is a lot there that is still standing, thankfully
So the actor that lived at 88 Southbridge Road, was Leonard Gregory. (1944-2020). He played Jimmy Cooper, in the 1980 film "McVicar". He also appeared a few times in EastEnders, playing the part of D.S. West. There's a long list of other well known T.V shows he has played parts in too.
He was also known as the Cartridge Man, and had devoted himself to the world of analogue replay, a great boost to the series lovers of the good old vinyl!
He would often be seen driving around the area in his prestine Rover P4, with his dogs perched on the rear seat.
I had the pleasure of chatting to him on a number of occasions, and was saddened to hear he had passed away in 2020, age 76.
I enjoyed the video and will make a point of viewing your other productions of the local areas.
There's more I would like to add,, but I think I've penned to much already!
Great, thanks Paul! I said to Graham when we were filming that someone will know and you have provided some excellent information there, much appreciated 😃
It was a pleasure!@@philswallow
I always liked looking at that music shop wedged in there. Croydon has some brilliant architecture and decent housing stock. So much unfulfilled potential that has been mismanaged over the past few decades. With the connections to London, it really should be more a highly desirable place to live.
I love it. I guess I should be grateful most don’t, I wouldn’t be able to afford to live here if it had been gentrified.
It is packed full of great history, let's hope it is preserved for future generations!
@@philswallow Absolutely. I’ve lived around Croydon for most of the past 40 years. Just stumbled upon your channel and already enjoying finding out lots of new facts. Impressive knowledge and research 👍
Thanks Tristan, it's great fun doing this. I thought I knew quite a bit about the area but always discover more when doing the research and even filming this I noticed the anchors on the chimneys of the Tree House for the first time 😁