High Speed shots of the H&N Rabbit Magnum pellet in.22 cal. made with a Photron Fastcam high-speed camera at 60,000 to 150,000 frames per second. www.hn-sport.de...
H&N pellets are underappreciated. The price is right, the pellets are consistent, very little (slightly) disfigured ones per box and one thing that really makes me stick with them:Press them, squeeze them ,the skirt even, and it's difficult to disfigure them even on purpose. Sturdy af for little plain lead bullets!
...and we are working on heavier pellets and bigger calibers. The limiting factors are the length of the air rifle magazines - and the technical limits of the machines we currently have.
HNSport I have a .25 cal Hatsan and I recently have purchased 15 tins of different HN pellets in .25cal. All of them performed perfectly. All of them had a nice tight fit in the breech exept the Grizzlies. Those are undersized and now I'm selling 6 tins of pellets that I was curious about the most... Is there any improvement for them on the way? Thanks!!
There are two things coming together: 1. The Hatsan barrels often have a slightly bigger caliber/diameter 2. Diabolo-shaded pellets touch the barrel only a the head and at the end of the foot. As they are usually a little bit oversized (especially the foot) they can accomodate to different diameters. The bullet shaped Grizzly doesn't have the flexibility. I hope my explanation (and English) is understandable ;-)
I know this is an old video but I just received these pellets off of Amazon tried just a few and I am amazed, I did not realize they had this type of power the video showed them at only like 850 feet per second my rifle shoots them at 1200 feet per second all I can say is I'm impressed with what they do, absolutely great for rabbit
Gonna need more than a 1322 to get the full performance out of these... A PCP would be ideal. Even a break barrel would have a hard time getting these to perform.
I have a rather powerful gamo swarm magnum .177 (nitro pistron break barrel), it shoots over 1500fps.. Will this slugs be too heavy for the rifle, it is stated to be the most powerful air rifle, I dont understand why my rifle cant fire this bullet. I ask because it says its only for pcp.
I have shot at least 50 through my gas ram air rifle with seemingly good results. A bit scared to use now i seen they should only be used in high powered
I have used the 15 grain .177 in my break barrel with great results. Even dieseling it doesn't seem to effect accuracy. And my gun is a cheap umarex airem 2
I do love my H&N's, alot of very accurate pellets. But the Rabbit Magnums are best left in the tin, atleast thats my experience. I have tried these in HW100, Royale 400, Bobcat and Impact, both in .177 and .22, but these slug-like projectiles are extremly inaccurate in all off my rifles, so inaccurate that its just not safe to shoot with them. I do love the look and concept of them, but they are nowhere near working for me sadly. I would much rather want to see your HP slugs in .177 also, as the HP slugs in .22 are just awesome.
@@aubreylukebird7403 I do not remember the reg-settings for the Impact unfortunately, it will anyways depend on the generation of regulator. I do remember however the Impact topping out @37 or 38 ft/lbs in .177 for the Rabbit Magnums, wich in itself is pretty damn impressive for a stock airrifle tuned to its capabilities without modding anything at all, just adjusting whats already there. But sadly, I can not see ANY kind of accuracy with this pellet in any of my airrifles. Tested them from 15 ft/lbs all the way to the max in the Impact, nowhere near succes, not fun... And I am NOT "out to get" H&N in any way here, but the accuracy is for me so poor I dare not use them, I feel they are a hazard because I feel that I have no control over where the projectile goes, they do literally fly all over the place except where you aim them. H&N is still my favourite pellet manufacturer though, I just pretend the Rabbit Mag's just dont exist there in the bottom of my drawer and all is well in the world again :)
I know H&N makes great pellets, however, to me it looks like the one going through the gel actually followed the existing (projectile) path that was already there.
By my observation it passed the existing path by less than 1 cm, but for me that it not the point. I like to appreciate the energy dump and hydrostatic shock show that ensues. I also dare to believe it would traverse the gel all the same.
what's the heaviest pellet recommend for a "1200fps with lightweight pellet" crossman nitro piston air gun? can a to heavy pellet damage the nitro piston?
If it is a break-barrel rifle then most probably the chamber of the rifle will be too small for the Rabbit Magnum. Additionally, the minimum power of the rifle should be 18 ft.lbs (FAC-level). Otherwise chances are high that it will stick in the barrel.
HNSport I have a .25 Sumatra and have read about your .25 31 grain Grizzly. Excellent BC at .070 compared to any other .25 pellets. I know many high powered .25 PCP users that would die for a high BC .25 H&N perhaps in the 40-50 grain range. Are there any plans for anything like that? Thank you. Btw, the most accurate pellet out of my Sumatra is the H&N Barracuda. Thousands of rounds have gone through it.
The challenge in making a heavier pellet is the length of the ususal PCP-magazines. For example, we made a study about a H&N Piledriver in .25. Its calculated weight was 40 grain but the form didn't look promising (not enough guidance in the barrel). We will keep working on other .25 pellet designs.
HNSport Thanks for the quick response. I guess it has to do with the existing twist rates of current .25 PCP's and I would forego my magazine and single feed. Anyway I'm looking forward to the .25 Grizzly! Should do very well for long range (100 to 150M+) shooting. Cudos to H&N!
The Rabbit Magnums are too long for the chamber of break barrel rifles. That is why we recommend these pellets (and the Baracuda Magnum) only for PCP rifles. I am quite surprised that they work in a CO2 pistol!
I need a PCP :).... yes in the CO2 pistol I had to make a stronger rubber seal as as it blows out with the heavy pellets... by the way love all your products.
Well if this in Germany,it was def. NoT shot with the 7 joule gouvernment limit airrifles. Such a shame. Germany produces very high-end products. So also high-end hi-tec airguns and rifles. But than das regime comes in between and say's every airrifle is "squeezed" down to 7joules. What fun is left over? Only one airGun maybe. Like the crosman 1377 amrican classic or the 2240 and so on. But Take the Weirauch rifles: they don't even may shoot hft or ft wich is 16joule. Already not hard hitting.But that is what men came agreed mostly in Europe to be the standard:16j or 12 ft/lbs (is that the right name?) Outside the (h)ft scene,there is so much fun to shoot a Hw100 pcp. Or the Hw97KT ,all in really full power. So felocities between 270 - 300 meters per second. Just below speed of sound. Anyway not to fast so the pelletflight stays stable. Than you can shoot much better and with much more fun at 50-75-100-150 meters. Wich these rifles are made for in fact. These "magnum" H&N pellets are very good in 45 j Plus rifles. In fact you need these heavy ones. Than you make the full advantage of these superb pellets.
up to 7.5 Joule you don't need a licence for purchasing an airgun in Germany. Above that you have to apply for a regular firearms licence. Of course, there are a lot of German-made airguns with higher power available. For example, the tests in the video were conducted with a 50 joule HW100.
paradox95 But, and that is typical for Germany, you can just buy an exportSpring (stronger, made for export)(legal) and build it in (illegal)... Also we are one of the last countrys with only blackPowder in our firecrackers. But we are all engineers so no problem
paradox95 Nope, wenn mans nicht kaufen kann baut man selber und der Teil mit dem we are all engineers war ein sarkastisches Spiel mit einem Klischee, da genug Idioten irgendwelche Polenböller kaufen.
H&N pellets are underappreciated. The price is right, the pellets are consistent, very little (slightly) disfigured ones per box and one thing that really makes me stick with them:Press them, squeeze them ,the skirt even, and it's difficult to disfigure them even on purpose. Sturdy af for little plain lead bullets!
Thank you for your positive feedback. It's amazing what a tiny little bit of antimony can do. ;-)
What an unbelievable performance of a pellet!
H&N is unbeatable.
Skenco.
h&n pellets are too underrated
H&N has the most diverse product range in this upper weight class. It's very cool shooting something that is similar to an actual bullet!
...and we are working on heavier pellets and bigger calibers. The limiting factors are the length of the air rifle magazines - and the technical limits of the machines we currently have.
HNSport I have a .25 cal Hatsan and I recently have purchased 15 tins of different HN pellets in .25cal. All of them performed perfectly. All of them had a nice tight fit in the breech exept the Grizzlies. Those are undersized and now I'm selling 6 tins of pellets that I was curious about the most... Is there any improvement for them on the way? Thanks!!
There are two things coming together: 1. The Hatsan barrels often have a slightly bigger caliber/diameter 2. Diabolo-shaded pellets touch the barrel only a the head and at the end of the foot. As they are usually a little bit oversized (especially the foot) they can accomodate to different diameters. The bullet shaped Grizzly doesn't have the flexibility. I hope my explanation (and English) is understandable ;-)
@@HNSport it can do damage to the inner barel of my hatsan 125?
Amazing Pellets Great Work H&N Guys. Keep up the great work. Nick.
I know this is an old video but I just received these pellets off of Amazon tried just a few and I am amazed, I did not realize they had this type of power the video showed them at only like 850 feet per second my rifle shoots them at 1200 feet per second all I can say is I'm impressed with what they do, absolutely great for rabbit
How about slow mo of pellet going through a rabbit's noggin?
Awesome rounds.
Bad Ass pellets....the best pellets in the world!!!
I used them in my crosman 1322 and they perform very well.
you having 7,5 joule on jour gun??? how you suposed to shoot those things out of it??
Thanks, I was going to post, asking if anybody knew.
@@ricardobergerie158 nah 7.5 IT works but i think its to weak
Gonna need more than a 1322 to get the full performance out of these... A PCP would be ideal. Even a break barrel would have a hard time getting these to perform.
Lol, had it since 2012 and been into the hobby for a lot longer than that but I appreciate the input I guess.
Those are super powerful, highly recommended and they can be fired out of a break barrel g magnum no problem…
Fabulous Pellet's
I have a rather powerful gamo swarm magnum .177 (nitro pistron break barrel), it shoots over 1500fps..
Will this slugs be too heavy for the rifle, it is stated to be the most powerful air rifle, I dont understand why my rifle cant fire this bullet.
I ask because it says its only for pcp.
These would be ideal for home defense. My handgun is kind of iffy on ammo since some of the longer skirted rounds tend to jam.
All i can say is.... WOW!
I'd be more interested in their accuracy.
Unfortunately in our kountry civilian prohibited to use 5.5 above Calibre. We only permit 4.5 (.177 Cal) only.
177 cal rabit magnum 2 is also available
I have shot at least 50 through my gas ram air rifle with seemingly good results. A bit scared to use now i seen they should only be used in high powered
Why scared? It can do something to the rifle? (Your gas ram) i have a hatsan 125 vortex and i would like to try it
I have used the 15 grain .177 in my break barrel with great results. Even dieseling it doesn't seem to effect accuracy. And my gun is a cheap umarex airem 2
I do love my H&N's, alot of very accurate pellets. But the Rabbit Magnums are best left in the tin, atleast thats my experience. I have tried these in HW100, Royale 400, Bobcat and Impact, both in .177 and .22, but these slug-like projectiles are extremly inaccurate in all off my rifles, so inaccurate that its just not safe to shoot with them. I do love the look and concept of them, but they are nowhere near working for me sadly.
I would much rather want to see your HP slugs in .177 also, as the HP slugs in .22 are just awesome.
In fx impact wat was ur regulator set at ...keep it between 130 n 150...also use the power wheel ...
@@aubreylukebird7403 I do not remember the reg-settings for the Impact unfortunately, it will anyways depend on the generation of regulator. I do remember however the Impact topping out @37 or 38 ft/lbs in .177 for the Rabbit Magnums, wich in itself is pretty damn impressive for a stock airrifle tuned to its capabilities without modding anything at all, just adjusting whats already there. But sadly, I can not see ANY kind of accuracy with this pellet in any of my airrifles. Tested them from 15 ft/lbs all the way to the max in the Impact, nowhere near succes, not fun...
And I am NOT "out to get" H&N in any way here, but the accuracy is for me so poor I dare not use them, I feel they are a hazard because I feel that I have no control over where the projectile goes, they do literally fly all over the place except where you aim them.
H&N is still my favourite pellet manufacturer though, I just pretend the Rabbit Mag's just dont exist there in the bottom of my drawer and all is well in the world again :)
Maybe you caught a tin from a bad batch. I have had a bad batch from H&N before. That kind of thing seems to happen at times...
H N....the best
I know H&N makes great pellets, however, to me it looks like the one going through the gel actually followed the existing (projectile) path that was already there.
By my observation it passed the existing path by less than 1 cm, but for me that it not the point. I like to appreciate the energy dump and hydrostatic shock show that ensues. I also dare to believe it would traverse the gel all the same.
Top demais
Do you make these in 4.52mm? The barrel on my air rifle is fuzzy like that!
Could you please tell me about mazel Velocity of this particular Air rifle.
what's the heaviest pellet recommend for a "1200fps with lightweight pellet" crossman nitro piston air gun? can a to heavy pellet damage the nitro piston?
Very cool
super h&n 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😎😎😎
I have a normal air rifle, not CO2 powered. Would these work, or would they not?
If it is a break-barrel rifle then most probably the chamber of the rifle will be too small for the Rabbit Magnum. Additionally, the minimum power of the rifle should be 18 ft.lbs (FAC-level). Otherwise chances are high that it will stick in the barrel.
HNSport In the Hatsan 125 sniper this pellet works like a charm :D
HNSport I have a .25 Sumatra and have read about your .25 31 grain Grizzly. Excellent BC at .070 compared to any other .25 pellets. I know many high powered .25 PCP users that would die for a high BC .25 H&N perhaps in the 40-50 grain range. Are there any plans for anything like that? Thank you.
Btw, the most accurate pellet out of my Sumatra is the H&N Barracuda. Thousands of rounds have gone through it.
The challenge in making a heavier pellet is the length of the ususal PCP-magazines. For example, we made a study about a H&N Piledriver in .25. Its calculated weight was 40 grain but the form didn't look promising (not enough guidance in the barrel). We will keep working on other .25 pellet designs.
HNSport Thanks for the quick response. I guess it has to do with the existing twist rates of current .25 PCP's and I would forego my magazine and single feed. Anyway I'm looking forward to the .25 Grizzly! Should do very well for long range (100 to 150M+) shooting. Cudos to H&N!
If there is a way to make rabbit magnum lighter. I like the shape of it.
I like them but struggle to fit them in my Gamo whisper and Benjamon np 1500....im my Gamo K1 they are hard hitting when hunting snails
The Rabbit Magnums are too long for the chamber of break barrel rifles. That is why we recommend these pellets (and the Baracuda Magnum) only for PCP rifles. I am quite surprised that they work in a CO2 pistol!
I need a PCP :).... yes in the CO2 pistol I had to make a stronger rubber seal as as it blows out with the heavy pellets... by the way love all your products.
Why is it only for PCP? I have a "Gamo Black Fusion IGT Mach1 5.5mm", that pellet dosn't fit?
Ну для переломки тяжеловато если переломки в колибре 4,5 то они не такие тяжёлые эти гранулы
ya'll think these would shoot well from a benjamin prowler?
Always seem to be slightly too big or small in my SSS. Not accurate. Copper coated would possibly be better in .22
I like this canel
it's literally small civil war era Minie Balls.
Will this work in a gamo break barrel
Can i use these in my crossman 2240
can be used on co2 pistols?
will these work in a 25 cal ?
Avec une carabine 20 joules croyez vous que sa pourrait le faire
what rifle was used?!
Hatsan AT44-10
+HNSport , thanks, that's a fine rifle . 💪👍💪👍
HNSport - Nice... I just bought that gun and researching best pellets for it. Definitely going with your pellets, thanks!
Muzzle energy 108 Joules
Well if this in Germany,it was def. NoT shot with the 7 joule gouvernment limit airrifles.
Such a shame. Germany produces very high-end products. So also high-end hi-tec airguns and rifles. But than das regime comes in between and say's every airrifle is "squeezed" down to 7joules. What fun is left over?
Only one airGun maybe. Like the crosman 1377 amrican classic or the 2240 and so on. But Take the Weirauch rifles: they don't even may shoot hft or ft wich is 16joule. Already not hard hitting.But that is what men came agreed mostly in Europe to be the standard:16j or 12 ft/lbs (is that the right name?)
Outside the (h)ft scene,there is so much fun to shoot a Hw100 pcp. Or the Hw97KT ,all in really full power. So felocities between 270 - 300 meters per second. Just below speed of sound. Anyway not to fast so the pelletflight stays stable. Than you can shoot much better and with much more fun at 50-75-100-150 meters. Wich these rifles are made for in fact. These "magnum" H&N pellets are very good in 45 j Plus rifles. In fact you need these heavy ones. Than you make the full advantage of these superb pellets.
What seven joule limit are you talking about? Aren't there 1300fps (>20Joules) airguns produced in Germany?
up to 7.5 Joule you don't need a licence for purchasing an airgun in Germany. Above that you have to apply for a regular firearms licence.
Of course, there are a lot of German-made airguns with higher power available. For example, the tests in the video were conducted with a 50 joule HW100.
paradox95 But, and that is typical for Germany, you can just buy an exportSpring (stronger, made for export)(legal) and build it in (illegal)... Also we are one of the last countrys with only blackPowder in our firecrackers.
But we are all engineers so no problem
Um Blackpowder in Firecrackers zu haben, muss man ein Engineer sein, richtig?
paradox95 Nope, wenn mans nicht kaufen kann baut man selber und der Teil mit dem we are all engineers war ein sarkastisches Spiel mit einem Klischee, da genug Idioten irgendwelche Polenböller kaufen.
but FX Airgun Always promoting so called JSB pellets! i am shocked to see this
what abaout akuracy
what's the muzzle energy of the air rifle?
approx. 50 Joule resp. 37 ft/lbs
+HNSport bloody hell that's 3 times more powerful than my SMK
+HNSport any good in my two 12 ft pounders?
No. For sub-FAC rifles in .177 and .22 I recommend the Field Target Trophy and the Sniper Light (and Medium, but only in .177).
in that case what would you recommend for an SMK Victory CR600W for both target & hunting?
That is the pellet for a PcP rifles. Is too heavy for a brake barell gun.
Yes, you’ll damage your seals on standard break barrels as well as your spring will lose power.
show
that block is made out of water
realyyy h&n???? hard target is aluminium sheet??!! you are jocking and lying...
rabbit magnum Accuracy is Very bad
my diana 350 magnum can do better than this shit Hatsan AT44-10... lol
bullshit