as always a great job! i love the way you film...first of all let me say, i would trade my heavy chevy for that SCJ CAR in a split second! while we were racing round robin, we had great conversations waiting inline. the owner of the SCJ is a great guy and appreciates all cars...as for the gears in my HEAVY CHEVY they are 4:56..it has run a best of 13.00 at 105 and at the stanton fall race it went 13.18 at 102..i would like too get a set of the proper bias ply goodyears rather then my BFGs.the bias plys work much better.
@@lesliegreenberg6036 There is no way that any of the cars we see racing are stock but you have to think about the people that tested these cars back then were they legitimate who to say that one of the higher ups that worked for Ford would slide one of the journalists a nice little stack of cash to intentionally make say a chevelle 396 375 hp run a little slower. p.s I know I didn't punctuate so if there any smart ass this is for you.
@@CarsAndZebras love your channel brother, especially the obscure cars you don’t see much. I’m 54 and embarrassed to say I’ve never heard of the Heavy Chevy Chevelle
@@deborahchesser7375 Hey, don't sweat the 54 and not remembering the Heavy Chevy, man. I had forgotten all about it. The ads brought back some memories I didn't even know I had ! That Heavy Chevy was cool for a couple of years, then kinda faded. I forgot 'em... nice to see those Torinos, too. I didn't like the looks, but knew they were some bad cars. Chevelles are just so beautiful, not many cars were nearly as good looking. Other muscle cars may have won on tracks, but it didn't matter. This was such a well designed and it's looks combined to make this a truly remarkable car. Still beautiful today. The Torino is still ugly. It's fast and has a lot going for it. It's still ugly. Sorry.
Almost forgot about the Heavy Chevy! I thought the Torino would walk the Chevelle...these races were much closer than I thought. Props to the lower compression, smog motor Chevy...l'm impressed! Gotta love that Torino, though! Another great video.
@Speedy rapacki As in the description, these cars in reality are not "stock", in the true sense of the word. A certain amount of tweaking is allowed for in the rules...
Interesting. A guy I went to college with had his dad's 72 Heavy Chevy, which was bought new. Red on blk, it had a factory 350 2bbl with 350 auto, p/s, pdiscs, AM radio, heater, and dual outside rear view mirrors as the only options. According to his dad, in 74 the engine lost oil pressure on the highway and before he could pull over it locked up. He had it towed to a dealer in southern Il where he requested a 400 sb put in it, with a 4bbl intake and Rochester carb, and also had the 2.73 open rear gears changed to 3.42s with posi. He paid for the upgrades. Later, the Turbo 350 A/T was fitted with a shift kit, high speed governor, and racing style sprag and clutches. The car was nearly undrivable in the rain, so it saw little mileage. I got to drive it just once. That trans hit so hard, even at light throttle, it was ridiculous. In fact, the thing toasted 2 ten bolt rear ends before he added a 12 bolt and a custom driveshaft from Chicago Driveline. Polyurethane bushings replaced the stock rubber in the rear suspension, and SS springs were added with gas shocks. With a 9.5 slick, it runs mid 13s which really isn't fast, but sure feels so!
My high school car was a 1972 chevelle, 307, AT, orange with a black vinyl top and black interior. Bought it in 1988 at 16 for $1200 from an actual little old lady who was the original owner. Had 70k original miles on it. Paid for it with money I saved from mowing lawns and my paper route. Of all my cars I’ve had, wish I had that one back.
Both are Beautiful Uncommon Musclecars. I remember seeing those ‘Heavy Chevys’ on the road when I was a kid. Those times would’ve been a lot better if the weather was cooler and if they were at sea level 👍
@@michaelp_42 ; We had about 100 yards of the orange track, hook the track up high on a fence and I do believe the Hot Wheels did approach the advertised "scale"speed of "300" mph!! What a blast!! But I don't know if I would go back because they still make "Hot Wheels" and they're still under a $buck. Take it easy man! John
In 1979, I had a 1970 Torino GT with a 351C and a FMX transmission, about 6 years later, a 1971 El Camino with a 350 and 3 on the floor. I miss them both.
My dad had a 1971 ss 454 he bought wrecked and built it like new. He said he had never been beat. He did tons of upgrades to it and i have a picture of hin launching it against an orange challenger with a big ole blower and his front wheels were about an inch or 2 off the ground. Those were great cars.
Give me the Cobra please! Last year I saw two of them here in germany at a meeting, one dark yellow and the other black jade. Never saw anything looking meaner in my whole life than the black jade coloured one Sadly couldn't speak to the owner, would've traded my wife :D
The chevelle does have a 4.56 final drive in all fairness like the owner said above, it would be a completely different outcome if he didn’t swap it out, both awesome cars though, don’t care who won or lost
Interesting match! A couple cars you don't see much any more! Which one do you like more? Also, join the Stock Appearing Drag Racers group on Facebook to support the drivers!
The Torino had more difficulty getting a good launch than the Chevelle. Higher trap speeds normally means more HP, so this may have been a problem getting traction.
My uncle had an actual 1970 scj torino in 72'. He found while working a job down in Florida. He came home in it for a weekend where he and my dad thrashed on it a bit. He went back to Florida. He eventually ended up trading it off. Never knew the 70 scj was that rare. Oh to know then what we know now
Looked like the Torino broke traction at the second round start. May have made the driver start a little softer in round three...as almost all of us would. It is great to see the cars, the races and to learn about them. My hat's off to the car owners, and your video format. While I am a GM guy, you measure your accomplishments by the greatness of your competitors. That's why it still hurts me to see Ford name an SUV a Mustang. GM and MOPAR already pulled stunts like that mostly in the 80s.
I used to own one of those torinos, wish I still had it they are worth a bunch. They were really heavy considering they are unibody construction, chevelles have a full frame and still lighter. Good old days.
I have a 72 heavy chevy and this was a lot of fun to watch, thanks!. Mine had an l48 when new wish it had been the 402. But the video (like many of the other videos) leaves me wondering if gears were the only change? The yf3 seems alittle quick.
Wow until this video I thought heavy chevy was something my uncle made up. Both are cool car's I did like the heavy chevy. Thanks for the video and comment.
In my opinion these races were all about the launch- the Torino’s weight ( heavier and being nose- heavy- I owned some so I’m well aware) and poor weight transfer, and the chevelles auto trans made all the difference. The 429 was obviously more powerful but not enough to overcome the starting line deficit. I love those Torino’s ( I actually had 2) but they don’t make great ‘stock’ drag cars.
Goodday C & Z, Nice to hear from you again. That Heavy Chevy what a suprise package that was, I expected more from the Torino. Wouldn't rhe Chevelle be considered a hardtop, not a coupe since the rear window goes down. Anymore Mopar's coming up soon. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
I believe in 1972 the term, “sport coupe” was used to describe the hardtop. The SS that year was based on the Malibu Sport Coupe. The next video will feature some odd ones... 1968 AMC AMX 390 vs a 1970 Pontiac GT-37 with a Ram Air III 400. 👍 I’m not sure what will be after that, but probably some sort of MOPAR.
The Heavy Chevy was not even a top of the line Malibu. They considered this a cheap Chevelle sedan. Couldn’t get bucket seats, no carpet, lots of the chrome was not included either.
I'm building a 70 Torino convertible 351c 4bbl. There's just something cool and distinctive about those old Torino's. I've always thought better looking than the Chevelles.
I had a1970 Falcon with a not stock 270 straight six that would run 127 m.p.h. across Texas. No lie....and way faster off the line than my 5 speed Celica.
Yea my buddies dad used to have this same torino and color back around 03. I was 17 at the time and every great now and then me and my friend would push it down the street and fire it up so his pops wouldnt hear and go for a midnight joy ride. Man we loved that car
When the Heavy Chevy came out a guy down the street from me bought one when his previous cars were Vette’s and other performance cars and I said to myself, WTF is that. I asked him, what, no SS this time?
I had a friend that also bought one of these right off the show-room floor. These were sold more-so for a family man than a Hotrodder. Ugly Chevy green, with an ugly, green interior (You can tell I like green, huh, lol) with the Big Block 400cu, automatic trans with a bench seat. First time I ever saw a Chevelle with "Heavy Chevy" written on it. I too was like, "What The Heck is that?" But surprisingly, the darn thing was pretty fast for what it was. Especially after I tweaked that Quadrajet 4bbl for him to where the secondaires would open-up as soon as he stomped it to the floor. He bought crapped his pants the first time he drove it after I worked on it after a bit of "tweaking" just a few things to get a little more performance out of that 402 cu. Then, being a family man, wanted me to put the Quad back like it was factory, because he said it would burn too much gas with him wanting to stomp it to the floor all the time, lol. Yeah, he was married and whooped too!
Lots of people de-smogged those mid 70s motors by simply taking off all the smog equipment and put better pistons/heads on them. You can really wake up those motors if you do that, so that could still be a “factory” Chevy under the hood, and they could have just taken off all the smog equipment to give it a little more pep. That and the posi, but people back in the day used to do that stuff so I’d still call it a “period correct” car, probably not a factory car though.
My 71 CJ Torino was stock stock stock with the factory Quadra jet carb and hydraulic cam.That motor would pull 7200 rpm in top gear and not fall of the cam ! It was clocked at 162 mph at the old California speed way back in the 70"s...Man I miss that car ! ( it came with 3:54 gears ) and had L-60-14's on the back...
What was the difference between the 68-70 Thunderbird 429's? You could tell they were factory more powerful than a "Ford" 429. The Thunderbird 429 had way more spirit. At least for street use.
My only beef with this video is if I drove as bad as the Torino driver I would loose in stop fuel dragster. Other that than it was a hilarious video.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The Torino is Unibody. The reason they might be heavy is because The engine is all cast iron and the C6 or Top loader 4 speed transmissions were really heavy not to mention 9inch Ford rear ends are pretty heavy. But I am sure the Torino gets pretty good weight transfer.
I'm a child of that era, my brother had the mercury marauder, whiched I loved that body styled especially with that front end nose, but I don't ever recall seeing a wagon torino!
I had a friend who raced back in the day and though you complain on the weight, he said it was one of the best drag race car in the day it was well balanced and had plenty of power and this man raced all flavors.
I would just like to say that Torino ran like it should have ran. There is no way the 402 is running that little camshaft. Talking .398 intake .430 exhaust lift. Duration at 193 & 203 @ .050 lift. With the stock compression at 8.5 with 2.06 & 1.72 valves. Maybe the 4.56 gears and some tweaking within the rules help a lot. Love the car though.
The times I quoted. Were from magizines that tested the cars brand new.. got my first car in 74 it was a 72 GTX Roadrunner I was. 16 years old . ....I ve. owned. 60. muscle cars. .Ford's.....Chevy's......Mopars. U. name. It..... Lots of racing street and track. what they ran stock and built. Cars are much quicker today than back then. Example. 70. Hemi CUDA. 13.10.....110. Verses......1320. Challenger..392.......11.8.......116.....those are stock. Numbers.....and my GTX. I. paid. 2850. For back then is worth. 52000. dollars today.....now that u learned something......God bless.....have a nice. day.
Adding the temperature, humidity and elevation at the event is great but, if possible, also add the barometric pressure so that a proper DA can be calculated. I've used the one at dragtimes.com for years when correcting back to standard conditions.
2 of my friends in 1982 each found orange scj torino,s 1970 both had drag packs. They were 3 digits apart on the vin and There keys were usable in each others cars. They bought them 2 months apart and were both originated in massachussetts . One was in eastern part of the state the other on the west side. They used to steal each others cars as a prank. Both cars were in pristine condition when purchased. 6 mos. After the second one was bought, it was dead in my friends driveway with spun rod bearing and he was doing a reverse burn out to impress some hot girls walking by and smashed it into a phone pole. The trunk had a big v shape and was tied closed with a piece of rope. Someone offered a small sum of money and it dissapeared forever. First one survived very well and was sold 2 yrs later for some big money
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 OH YES THERE IS !!!!! 9:36 INTO THIS VIDEO C&Z RUNS A COMMERCIAL FOR THE 1970 FORD TORINO AND SHOWS A RED TORINO WITH HIDEAWAY HEADLIGHTS MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHECK IT OUT !!!!!!!!!!
While those ETs are slower than modern day muscle, the raw feel and loudness made them seem faster and much more exciting IMHO. Classic USA1 Muscle Cars, all the way. Made in America.
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as always a great job! i love the way you film...first of all let me say, i would trade my heavy chevy for that SCJ CAR in a split second! while we were racing round robin, we had great conversations waiting inline. the owner of the SCJ is a great guy and appreciates all cars...as for the gears in my HEAVY CHEVY they are 4:56..it has run a best of 13.00 at 105 and at the stanton fall race it went 13.18 at 102..i would like too get a set of the proper bias ply goodyears rather then my BFGs.the bias plys work much better.
Glad you found the video!
I wouldn't trade that Chevy for Ford i am Chevy guy love that heavy chevy never seen one in real life just read about them.
@@robertrobinson1111 That's what I like, a chebby guy admitting to the world what a fool he is.
When they were new.......scj. 4speed. 391. 13.62.....107. Chevy. 396. 4speed. 411. 14.22. 103. Any questions???
@@lesliegreenberg6036 There is no way that any of the cars we see racing are stock but you have to think about the people that tested these cars back then were they legitimate who to say that one of the higher ups that worked for Ford would slide one of the journalists a nice little stack of cash to intentionally make say a chevelle 396 375 hp run a little slower. p.s I know I didn't punctuate so if there any smart ass this is for you.
Those Torinos are just so different. Nice to see them race!
Definitely 😏
@@CarsAndZebras love your channel brother, especially the obscure cars you don’t see much. I’m 54 and embarrassed to say I’ve never heard of the Heavy Chevy Chevelle
@@deborahchesser7375 Hey, don't sweat the 54 and not remembering the Heavy Chevy, man. I had forgotten all about it. The ads brought back some memories I didn't even know I had ! That Heavy Chevy was cool for a couple of years, then kinda faded. I forgot 'em... nice to see those Torinos, too. I didn't like the looks, but knew they were some bad cars. Chevelles are just so beautiful, not many cars were nearly as good looking. Other muscle cars may have won on tracks, but it didn't matter. This was such a well designed and it's looks combined to make this a truly remarkable car. Still beautiful today. The Torino is still ugly. It's fast and has a lot going for it. It's still ugly. Sorry.
Almost forgot about the Heavy Chevy! I thought the Torino would walk the Chevelle...these races were much closer than I thought. Props to the lower compression, smog motor Chevy...l'm impressed! Gotta love that Torino, though! Another great video.
I’m certain I’ve never seen a 402, radio/heater delete Heavy Chevy before. Gotta be rare!
It was running way too fast for a 72 low compression. Complete ringer
@@CarsAndZebras I have only SEEN a handful of Heavy Chevy's in my life....With deletes and 402 could be 1 of 1 car.
Owner admitted a change in rear end ratio. Helps use power better
@Speedy rapacki As in the description, these cars in reality are not "stock", in the true sense of the word. A certain amount of tweaking is allowed for in the rules...
Interesting. A guy I went to college with had his dad's 72 Heavy Chevy, which was bought new. Red on blk, it had a factory 350 2bbl with 350 auto, p/s, pdiscs, AM radio, heater, and dual outside rear view mirrors as the only options. According to his dad, in 74 the engine lost oil pressure on the highway and before he could pull over it locked up. He had it towed to a dealer in southern Il where he requested a 400 sb put in it, with a 4bbl intake and Rochester carb, and also had the 2.73 open rear gears changed to 3.42s with posi. He paid for the upgrades. Later, the Turbo 350 A/T was fitted with a shift kit, high speed governor, and racing style sprag and clutches. The car was nearly undrivable in the rain, so it saw little mileage. I got to drive it just once. That trans hit so hard, even at light throttle, it was ridiculous. In fact, the thing toasted 2 ten bolt rear ends before he added a 12 bolt and a custom driveshaft from Chicago Driveline. Polyurethane bushings replaced the stock rubber in the rear suspension, and SS springs were added with gas shocks. With a 9.5 slick, it runs mid 13s which really isn't fast, but sure feels so!
Sounds like a real mild mannered motor… Mid 13’s is smokin fast for a stock(ish) SBC… Sounds like a dialed in build!
My high school car was a 1972 chevelle, 307, AT, orange with a black vinyl top and black interior. Bought it in 1988 at 16 for $1200 from an actual little old lady who was the original owner. Had 70k original miles on it. Paid for it with money I saved from mowing lawns and my paper route. Of all my cars I’ve had, wish I had that one back.
Both are Beautiful Uncommon Musclecars. I remember seeing those ‘Heavy Chevys’ on the road when I was a kid. Those times would’ve been a lot better if the weather was cooler and if they were at sea level 👍
Both were off around 2-3 tenths that day, as was everyone else with that heat
Michael P ; The only time I ever saw a "Heavy Chevy"was a Hot Wheels.
Yes !!! I had one of those Hot Wheels’ Heavy Chevy’s. Thanks For the reminder. Great Times
I wish I could go back 😂😰
@@michaelp_42 ; We had about 100 yards of the orange track, hook the track up high on a fence and I do believe the Hot Wheels did approach the advertised "scale"speed of "300" mph!! What a blast!! But I don't know if I would go back because they still make "Hot Wheels" and they're still under a $buck. Take it easy man! John
In 1979, I had a 1970 Torino GT with a 351C and a FMX transmission, about 6 years later, a 1971 El Camino with a 350 and 3 on the floor. I miss them both.
My dad had a 1971 ss 454 he bought wrecked and built it like new. He said he had never been beat. He did tons of upgrades to it and i have a picture of hin launching it against an orange challenger with a big ole blower and his front wheels were about an inch or 2 off the ground. Those were great cars.
There is an error in the video. The humidity at the time of filming was actually 49-54%. Earlier that morning it was in upwards of 87%.
CAN'T HELP BUT TO REMEMBER YOU HAD A 69 CHEVELLE L78 DOING
STEADY 13.3'S SO A 13.9'S IS RESPECTABLE
Give me the Cobra please!
Last year I saw two of them here in germany at a meeting, one dark yellow and the other black jade. Never saw anything looking meaner in my whole life than the black jade coloured one
Sadly couldn't speak to the owner, would've traded my wife :D
Gotta love that Black Jade
@Enzo 1965 :D nice try but I'll only trade her for a Torino
Her specs are bombshell and she really likes 1948-55 Ford F series
@Enzo 1965 He said he wanted a Cobra, not a 97' spark plug spitter.
Surprised that they were so evenly matched! I figured the Torino would have had this locked up.
I'm thinking the extra weight was the difference.
That 402 didn't run that good I drove one
What happens when the driver can’t drive
The chevelle does have a 4.56 final drive in all fairness like the owner said above, it would be a completely different outcome if he didn’t swap it out, both awesome cars though, don’t care who won or lost
The Heavy Chevy isn't stock. It's a 14.5et car on a good day.
You have a great channel, and I love the content and commentary!!!
Thanks for watching! 👍
And I like your big sexy greasy muscles
Interesting match! A couple cars you don't see much any more! Which one do you like more? Also, join the Stock Appearing Drag Racers group on Facebook to support the drivers!
TSCJ for me due to it's drivetrain strength.
@Barry gm on gm nice
Need to get the Ford Torino Talladega with the boss 429
The Ford tor me a friend of mine had one of those TSCJ and it was a beast when you got into the gas it would plaster you in your seat and it was gone.
That chevelle ain't no sucker h the chevelle won 2 and the ford won 1 I wasn't surprised
The Torino had more difficulty getting a good launch than the Chevelle. Higher trap speeds normally means more HP, so this may have been a problem getting traction.
Those old tires suck
It’s a big block on skinny tires. OF COURSE ITS A TRACTION ISSUE
The Torino is a 4 speed , much harder to launch
I had a 71 Chevelle Malibu with the 402ci, it held its own in a drag race, but was super fast on top end! Regret letting it go!
My uncle had an actual 1970 scj torino in 72'. He found while working a job down in Florida. He came home in it for a weekend where he and my dad thrashed on it a bit. He went back to Florida. He eventually ended up trading it off. Never knew the 70 scj was that rare. Oh to know then what we know now
Looked like the Torino broke traction at the second round start. May have made the driver start a little softer in round three...as almost all of us would. It is great to see the cars, the races and to learn about them. My hat's off to the car owners, and your video format. While I am a GM guy, you measure your accomplishments by the greatness of your competitors. That's why it still hurts me to see Ford name an SUV a Mustang. GM and MOPAR already pulled stunts like that mostly in the 80s.
Gimme that thicc Torino
So thicc
That Chevy commercial sounded like it could have been narrated by Casey Kasem.
It was.
It actually was Casey Kasem doing the voiceover 😎
I thought so too.
I used to own one of those torinos, wish I still had it they are worth a bunch. They were really heavy considering they are unibody construction, chevelles have a full frame and still lighter. Good old days.
Great production on this video. Worth the wait! I didn’t realize To Cruise has so much horsepower dangling down there.....strangely intriguing
Almost hypnotizing
Gotta go with the Torino here..
50/50 chance
Chevelle
Love watching these classic muscle car drag races, love your break down on the cars also
Gotta remember the Chevy power rating is at net power vs the Ford which in 1970 were still gross power ratings. It makes a significant difference.
It's Shaggy doing the chevy ad! Zoinks!!!!
I had a 71 402 stock stock motor in a 64 Chevelle and that car was one fast car on the street
I had some serious fun memories with a blue Heavy with the 350 3 speed. Good days, wish I had it now.
I remember the heavy chevys. They were an insurance lowering tactic car. Coyote customs just had one for sale but it was a clone. Very rare car.
Not a Cobra Jet, but I bought a 70 Torino and it was pure lemon, right down to the brakes.
I owned a heavy chevy back in 1977,really nice car,it handled great.
The amount of work you put into these videos is impressive. The research is great! Thanks!!
I like how vicious these 2 cars are.
You want a job OJ? We could use someone like you.
@@kfc1689 Oh yeah, he's Loves his Fried Chicken and Watermelon too.
I have a 72 heavy chevy and this was a lot of fun to watch, thanks!. Mine had an l48 when new wish it had been the 402. But the video (like many of the other videos) leaves me wondering if gears were the only change? The yf3 seems alittle quick.
Rip Casey Kasem he's on the Chevy commercial the Chevelle commercial as soon as I heard his voice took me back to being a kid
Wow until this video I thought heavy chevy was something my uncle made up. Both are cool car's I did like the heavy chevy. Thanks for the video and comment.
In my opinion these races were all about the launch- the Torino’s weight ( heavier and being nose- heavy- I owned some so I’m well aware) and poor weight transfer, and the chevelles auto trans made all the difference. The 429 was obviously more powerful but not enough to overcome the starting line deficit. I love those Torino’s ( I actually had 2) but they don’t make great ‘stock’ drag cars.
Best 16 minutes on TH-cam!
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Thanks for having a sick sense of humor full of sexual innuendos. The 13 year old in me appreciates it.
Both are incredible cars and pieces of workmanship/machinery..but if you were to ask me my preference..I'm gonna have to say the SCJ Ford Torino.
Goodday C & Z,
Nice to hear from you again.
That Heavy Chevy what a suprise package that was, I expected more from the Torino.
Wouldn't rhe Chevelle be considered a hardtop, not a coupe since the rear window goes down.
Anymore Mopar's coming up soon.
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I believe in 1972 the term, “sport coupe” was used to describe the hardtop. The SS that year was based on the Malibu Sport Coupe. The next video will feature some odd ones... 1968 AMC AMX 390 vs a 1970 Pontiac GT-37 with a Ram Air III 400. 👍 I’m not sure what will be after that, but probably some sort of MOPAR.
Sedan has permanent pillar between front and back windows. Coupe doesent
@@loneggebroten2484
Hi Lon
That is right, I am talking about the difference between a coupe & a hardtop
The Heavy Chevy was not even a top of the line Malibu. They considered this a cheap Chevelle sedan. Couldn’t get bucket seats, no carpet, lots of the chrome was not included either.
I am a Chevy guy but loved the Torino s Ford had some awesome muscle cars back in the day also !
Awesome videos and the hi or is top notch.👍
Gotta love the Torinos. Really different for the time. Same with the Cyclone.
I'm building a 70 Torino convertible 351c 4bbl. There's just something cool and distinctive about those old Torino's. I've always thought better looking than the Chevelles.
I had a1970 Falcon with a not stock 270 straight six that would run 127 m.p.h. across Texas. No lie....and way faster off the line than my 5 speed Celica.
Yea my buddies dad used to have this same torino and color back around 03. I was 17 at the time and every great now and then me and my friend would push it down the street and fire it up so his pops wouldnt hear and go for a midnight joy ride. Man we loved that car
Go Team Chevelle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When the Heavy Chevy came out a guy down the street from me bought one when his previous cars were Vette’s and other performance cars and I said to myself, WTF is that. I asked him, what, no SS this time?
I had a friend that also bought one of these right off the show-room floor. These were sold more-so for a family man than a Hotrodder. Ugly Chevy green, with an ugly, green interior (You can tell I like green, huh, lol) with the Big Block 400cu, automatic trans with a bench seat. First time I ever saw a Chevelle with "Heavy Chevy" written on it. I too was like, "What The Heck is that?" But surprisingly, the darn thing was pretty fast for what it was. Especially after I tweaked that Quadrajet 4bbl for him to where the secondaires would open-up as soon as he stomped it to the floor. He bought crapped his pants the first time he drove it after I worked on it after a bit of "tweaking" just a few things to get a little more performance out of that 402 cu. Then, being a family man, wanted me to put the Quad back like it was factory, because he said it would burn too much gas with him wanting to stomp it to the floor all the time, lol. Yeah, he was married and whooped too!
Anybody who thinks the Heavy Chevy is stock needs to check in to the Betty Ford Clinic.
ET of the Torino is pretty consistent with magazine tests from the day. Chevelle is way off (too quick) for a 1972 low compression 402.
mine turned 13.3 107 mph
I love your channel bro! Keep up the great work
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Lots of people de-smogged those mid 70s motors by simply taking off all the smog equipment and put better pistons/heads on them. You can really wake up those motors if you do that, so that could still be a “factory” Chevy under the hood, and they could have just taken off all the smog equipment to give it a little more pep. That and the posi, but people back in the day used to do that stuff so I’d still call it a “period correct” car, probably not a factory car though.
This channel reminds me a lot of Regular Car Reviews, only without the cynical "everything i don't like is terrible" attitude.
Regular Cars sucks and His podcast is the worst thing on youtube
My 71 CJ Torino was stock stock stock with the factory Quadra jet carb and hydraulic cam.That motor would pull 7200 rpm in top gear and not fall of the cam ! It was clocked at 162 mph at the old California speed way back in the 70"s...Man I miss that car ! ( it came with 3:54 gears ) and had L-60-14's on the back...
What was the difference between the 68-70 Thunderbird 429's? You could tell they were factory more powerful than a "Ford" 429. The Thunderbird 429 had way more spirit. At least for street use.
My only beef with this video is if I drove as bad as the Torino driver I would loose in stop fuel dragster. Other that than it was a hilarious video.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Once again, another nice close match!
Good to see these cars run.
Reminds me of the 1980's.
If I only held on to some ao the cars. LOL
I had a nice 71 torino, someone wrecked it while I was paying my debt to society, I was EVER so pissed!!!
Im a ford guy but have owned both and both are awesome cars.
Will the torino beat a 71 boss
I was really hoping to see some “those cars aren’t stock” comments.
FOR REAL THOSE CARS ARENT STOCK. THE ‘72 CHEVELLE COULDN’T RUN THE 1/4 IN LESS THAN 20 SECONDS.
@@turboturd5289 *20 SECONDS? MORE LIKE 25*
Don’t worry, they’ll show up sometime
Turbo Turd as long as we are going 20 and 25, lets make it 2 minutes. Hahahahahahaha, flakes...
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More like the first one off the assembly line is only halfway down the 1/4 right now.
The Torino is Unibody. The reason they might be heavy is because The engine is all cast iron and the C6 or Top loader 4 speed transmissions were really heavy not to mention 9inch Ford rear ends are pretty heavy. But I am sure the Torino gets pretty good weight transfer.
Wow I would love to own one of them Torino’s
I like those cars almost as much as my crisp, golden french fries! Now open up... Daddy Ronald wants you to take these French fries in your mouth.
What people really want is my thick chicken in their mouth.
Thank you, daddy
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LOL 😂 love the humor you put in your videos also great content by the way.👍😂
I'm a child of that era, my brother had the mercury marauder, whiched I loved that body styled especially with that front end nose, but I don't ever recall seeing a wagon torino!
I'm a ford man, when it came time to buy my muscle, I bought and raced a 68 442. Ford's just didn't do it at the strip.
There was definitely something wrong with that right lane both cars were slower when they were in it
The weather is pretty extreme for Michigan. Good races!
I'm a die hard GM guy but I'll be honest I was wanting that super cobra jet to win and I'd take it over the chevelle any day
Thank you for the information keep them coming please
I had a friend who raced back in the day and though you complain on the weight, he said it was one of the best drag race car in the day it was well balanced and had plenty of power and this man raced all flavors.
I would just like to say that Torino ran like it should have ran.
There is no way the 402 is running that little camshaft. Talking .398 intake .430 exhaust lift. Duration at 193 & 203 @ .050 lift. With the stock compression at 8.5 with 2.06 & 1.72 valves. Maybe the 4.56 gears and some tweaking within the rules help a lot. Love the car though.
Was the Heavy Chevy available in a convertible?
I would love to see what that 402 would do with a forged crank and pistons
Amish love themselves some Chevelle!
The times I quoted. Were from magizines that tested the cars brand new.. got my first car in 74 it was a 72 GTX Roadrunner I was. 16 years old . ....I ve. owned. 60. muscle cars. .Ford's.....Chevy's......Mopars. U. name. It..... Lots of racing street and track. what they ran stock and built. Cars are much quicker today than back then. Example. 70. Hemi CUDA. 13.10.....110. Verses......1320. Challenger..392.......11.8.......116.....those are stock. Numbers.....and my GTX. I. paid. 2850. For back then is worth. 52000. dollars today.....now that u learned something......God bless.....have a nice. day.
How do you cross the finish line first with a slower time?
reaction time
Adding the temperature, humidity and elevation at the event is great but, if possible, also add the barometric pressure so that a proper DA can be calculated. I've used the one at dragtimes.com for years when correcting back to standard conditions.
2 of my friends in 1982 each found orange scj torino,s 1970 both had drag packs. They were 3 digits apart on the vin and There keys were usable in each others cars. They bought them 2 months apart and were both originated in massachussetts . One was in eastern part of the state the other on the west side. They used to steal each others cars as a prank. Both cars were in pristine condition when purchased. 6 mos. After the second one was bought, it was dead in my friends driveway with spun rod bearing and he was doing a reverse burn out to impress some hot girls walking by and smashed it into a phone pole. The trunk had a big v shape and was tied closed with a piece of rope. Someone offered a small sum of money and it dissapeared forever. First one survived very well and was sold 2 yrs later for some big money
I'd love to see the same race with modern tires.
The bias ply tires these guys run actually hook up amazingly well. Many of these cars are running 12 second quarter mile times on them.
Well if both cars can smoke and burnout the power exceeds the traction.
Much closer and quite surprising results
Why does the red Chevelle SS in the ad at 8:37 look as though it has GTO Judge eyebrow stripes?
Light reflection off the body lines
Awesome wish we could get thunderbird dragway fixed and running again ran 14.02 At 99mph there 16years ago in my 88 gt mustang
Being a heater and radio delete car I'm betting that Heavy Chevy is no stranger to the drag strip.
I'm sure it isn't. Best running "stock" 402 I've ever watched go down the 1320
Imagine how many jizz stains are in the backseat
So , is it a SCJ engine ?
My boss turned me into this channel. Let's see em Rip and Knowledge is Power
I want the Torino and Chevelle at the same time
Who doesn’t
Yeah, I want that 3-way too.
I'VE ALWAYS LIKED THE LOOK OF THE 70 TORINO COBRA JET WITH
HIDEAWAY HEADLIGHTS BUT THE PERFORMANCE
WAS SHAMEFUL .... STILL LOVE THE BOSS 429
@@jimmeyer7632 There is no Hideaway Headlights on these Torinos, you thinking about the Cougar. Only Ford/Mercury Car to have Hideaway Headlights.
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OH YES THERE IS !!!!!
9:36 INTO THIS VIDEO
C&Z RUNS A COMMERCIAL FOR THE 1970 FORD TORINO AND SHOWS A RED TORINO WITH HIDEAWAY HEADLIGHTS
MAYBE YOU SHOULD CHECK IT OUT !!!!!!!!!!
You should have way more subs broski, just subscribed too!!
G g g dammm I Love those Torinos
I have to admit.....I did not see this coming.
That’s what she said
@@therewhatgoes8038 I think you just added a closing line of dialogue for the feature we just saw!
The 72 Chevelle was supposed to have the body of the 73, but because of the auto workers strike, it was postponed.
That was a good thing prefer the 70-72 body style over the 73-77
Like a couple of big ass dinosaurs in a fight.
No junk ass chevelle gonna touch a cobrajet...best motor ever
Doesn’t look so great after that match up.
I think the standard performance ratio for the Chevelle in 1972 was 3.31: 1. Not 100% certain if that was just the SS however.
Automatic transmission was the 2.73. Four-speed was the 3.31.
@@lookielou843 Thanks for the info! : D
The guy in the Torino must not be much of a driver, the Torino is a far superior car compared to the Chevelle.
While those ETs are slower than modern day muscle, the raw feel and loudness made them seem faster and much more exciting IMHO. Classic USA1 Muscle Cars, all the way. Made in America.
One of Ford's problems was always weight, good for doing burnouts but not so good off the line, good looking cars for sure!!!
How much did they pay the Toronto driver to throw those runs?
I'm not a Ford guy but that Torino I love it
Absolutely great matches...less talk would work also
Great race!
1st video of yours ive warched and you won me over. Cant wait to see what else you have in store