'He's Just Waiting for His Son to DIE'| Chicago Med

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  • It's a tough one for Dr. Manning, her 8-year-old cancer patient refuses to take his medication.
    Season 02, Episode 13:
    Dr. Rhodes (Colin Donnell) convinces Dr. Latham (guest star Ato Essandoh) to join him for a medical trip out of town, which puts Latham's personality issues to the test. Dr. Manning (Torrey DeVitto) treats an 8 year-old cancer patient who wants to give up on his battle until she makes a surprise discovery. Elsewhere, an unhealthy woman with heart problems is brought in and doesn't want to listen to doctors, much to the dismay of Dr. Halstead (Nick Gehlfuss). Meanwhile, Dr. Choi (Brian Tee), Dr. Charles (Oliver Platt) and Dr. Reese (Rachel DiPillo) work on a complicated case involving a woman with a personality disorder. Will and Nina (guest star Patti Murin) work through their first relationship test. S. Epatha Merkerson, Marlyne Barrett and Yaya DaCosta also star.
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  • @liam2386
    @liam2386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1620

    telling an 8 year old child with a dead mum they dont understand whay death really means? come on!

    • @k4mohelo_
      @k4mohelo_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      it's like telling someone who's paralyzed they don't know how it's like to not feel anything 😐

    • @finnsnow2495
      @finnsnow2495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      A 8 year old who's been experiencing pain and the verge of death for years he doesn't understand what death is.

    • @dogboyirI
      @dogboyirI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well a child with a dead relative definitely could still not actually understand death but I have no trouble believing an 8 year old dying from cancer who has gone through several treatments that made him ill and feel completely defeated has an understanding of death and when that torment is just too much to go through anymore, also with the dead Mum.

    • @tracim3080
      @tracim3080 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A dying child who has been going through treatment the majority of their life and have probably seen friends from the hospital die on multiple occasions.

    • @trajannvaloris9385
      @trajannvaloris9385 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ya mean while irl atm doctors can give a kid the choice to get mutilated for how they feel for a couple days but not to refuse treatment that makes them un happy and sick

  • @ArchangelTyrael
    @ArchangelTyrael 2 ปีที่แล้ว +631

    That nurse is actually worse than the doctor. “If you don’t call I will”. The doctor actually seems to respect what the father wanted.

    • @zoereyes8623
      @zoereyes8623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      She didnt really, both were so condesending and judge him, he just didnt want to see his son in pain, worst of it all is that she tried to explain death, to a child that has cancer for many years, lost a parent and its not hers! Thats not her call, the kid fully understood his situation, and the legal guardian did what he thought was best.

    • @charlottedavid1973
      @charlottedavid1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Correction. What the boy wanted

    • @ashxd6903
      @ashxd6903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@zoereyes8623 you know, she never experienced the pain. So ofcourse she wont understand death as much as the little boy did. And another fact that the boy is still a kid, i would also think that he didnt understand death as much as i did because many of the other child cancer patients dont understand death even tho they experienced the pain. its like admitting that a baby knows more than you. she changed her mind after hearing what the boy said, she is already much better than other doctors as they dont listen at all

    • @annakowalska4323
      @annakowalska4323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! That fucking nurse was the worst,and in the final scene after she put that guy in JAIL, she just said "haha😛 I guess it's all because I'm pregnant 😊😂"

    • @mmmm-co4dc
      @mmmm-co4dc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      April Is one of the worst characters on the show honestly

  • @XusernamegoeshereX
    @XusernamegoeshereX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2186

    Dr. Manning: "He's a kid, he can't make that choice!"
    Also Dr. Manning: **literally tries to convince the kid to make a different decision**

    • @CA-bw9vw
      @CA-bw9vw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      It's because she thought the kid did not understand his decision. She had new information and changed her mind accordingly. What's wrong with that?

    • @dmf1301
      @dmf1301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I think she was giving the kid the lay of the land, not trying to force him to do anything.

    • @sidonslife8886
      @sidonslife8886 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She was giving him a stronger base

    • @shwethapollali3020
      @shwethapollali3020 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She was a worthless human being anyway, the most irritating character. I am happy she is no longer on Chicago Med.

    • @Raamy25
      @Raamy25 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@shwethapollali3020
      yikes . she wasn't the best but she did a lot she saved a lot of lives and we ve learned a lot from that character. and everything she did was for her patients. i can't see how is that irritating to you miss karen

  • @julesoxana3630
    @julesoxana3630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +319

    You can see the love in his eyes and he just didnt want his son to be in pain🥺

  • @artlover5060
    @artlover5060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2094

    Honestly, I would've been mad as hell if I was the dad. The fact that the father's decision actually helped his son survive, just to be arrested for it is frustrating. If they actually waited a little, the father could've been by his son's side while he was recovering and now he can't get that.

    • @TUIfly_simpilot
      @TUIfly_simpilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Wellcome to the united states.

    • @CloudyViolet
      @CloudyViolet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@TUIfly_simpilot welcome* srry

    • @TUIfly_simpilot
      @TUIfly_simpilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CloudyViolet would you please shut up?

    • @CloudyViolet
      @CloudyViolet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TUIfly_simpilot may you know how to spell first?

    • @TUIfly_simpilot
      @TUIfly_simpilot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CloudyViolet what the hell is wrong with you?

  • @madnessnvrendz9347
    @madnessnvrendz9347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3868

    honestly, it's not fair, the father obviously didn't wanna lose his son but he wasn't gonna make him suffer just so he would live, that would be selfish, and he got arrested for being a considerate father who actually listens to his child, which most parents DON'T actually do. This is not neglect, this is parenting. As a parent you have to make tough decisions and that's exactly what he did.

    • @ilovefoodespeciallybrownies
      @ilovefoodespeciallybrownies 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      I agree. It’s unfair that he got arrested.

    • @angelinemaria4936
      @angelinemaria4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mate he's got cancer

    • @ShadowSoul92
      @ShadowSoul92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@angelinemaria4936 They told us he has cancer, but they didn't specify what type of cancer. Furthermore, those that affect children are generally more aggressive and spread faster .... (I'm not a doctor but that's what I've heard from real doctors), unfortunately it's a terrible reality for an adult to live, let alone a child.

    • @rhysplaysz
      @rhysplaysz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      The system is broken, always.

    • @ccam4538
      @ccam4538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That is how they arrested a lady that ran away with her child cuz she thought her husband was beating the girl. Cuz the always had injuries

  • @stavros1216
    @stavros1216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +720

    This kid is a very good actor, especially for his age

  • @JabamiLain
    @JabamiLain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +483

    2:37 the father's decision does make sense. I mean, they tried 4 chemos and they all failed. How can they be sure this one is going to work ? There's a difference between hope and denial. What the doctors are doing is denial.

    • @suzannekirkwood6392
      @suzannekirkwood6392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's something I find weird about the whole medical consent thing. In my country at 16 you are able to make your own medical decisions, someone younger can seek contraception or abortion without parents knowing, but if a child under 16 tells a parent they don't want any more treatment the parent will find themselves in court losing the right to make medical decisions and the child will be forced to take treatment.

    • @acc7587
      @acc7587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      better than death for some people.

  • @siobhang6837
    @siobhang6837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1329

    Dr Manning was wrong, it is the kid’s choice and it is the kid’s body, the kid understands what cancer is and what it’s like going through it, he made his choice and it is his decision and his father supports him with his decision because he knows that his son doesn’t want to suffer with cancer anymore

    • @kaitlintropper2061
      @kaitlintropper2061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Silexpl in Ontario the child can decide if the health care worker judge that the child understands

    • @quill8043
      @quill8043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I agree, in my opinion if you haven’t experienced cancer and the treatments, DO NOT try to force that person to keep going through pain and suffering just so you can feel heroic. I don’t like dr.manning because she constantly thinks she’s right, and she doesn’t even admit to her wrong decisions until there’s solid proof and most of the time she does even apologise just gets all pissy😭

    • @kaitlintropper2061
      @kaitlintropper2061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@quill8043 I’m in nursing school and I do learned that the patient has a right to decide.

    • @rdgloveshouse
      @rdgloveshouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought so but then he said "I want to see what comes next" which means he doesn't understand that there won't be a "next"

    • @BrookeHall2005
      @BrookeHall2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So if a baby has cancer and can’t talk they can’t do chemo bc they can’t make a decision? The parents make their choices till their officially either teens or adults so either 13 or 18

  • @calu20801
    @calu20801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I just don’t understand, not causing your child more pain and respecting his wishes is a crime, but making your child suffer so much just so that you could keep him alive or creating a child with the sole purpose of making him donate organs hence suffering isn’t.

    • @supervegito2277
      @supervegito2277 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not alot of places support Quallity of life over Quantity of life sadly.
      This isnt really all that different, morally speaking, from Assisted Suicide, something thats also illegal in most countries...

  • @lunatny_cs
    @lunatny_cs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    A child that has cancer, and has been through hell and back through chemo, and Dr Manning has the audacity to say he doesn't understand?! I think the only person who doesn't understand is Manning, she hasn't been through it, and some ppl would rather die or wait it out than go through tiresome treatment.

  • @charliwilde
    @charliwilde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2273

    Dr Manning is so condesending, self rightous and arrogant. Assuming a cancer paitent who has been sick for years doesnt know what death means because they are a child, immediately verbally attacking a parent and accusing them of withholding medication without asking questions (and doing so within the child's hearing) and acting like only people who parent like her or subscribe to her belief system are worthy of respect. Ugh.

    • @adelecerniauskaite7046
      @adelecerniauskaite7046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I agree

    • @jaimeduncan6167
      @jaimeduncan6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I will not say that, she was open minded. That is far better than most Mds

    • @baristaz8834
      @baristaz8834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      Yh she's really annoying. As soon as there is a patient who has a kid or a baby she acts like she raised 10 kids in 5 life times and knows it all, and as soon as no one agrees with her she gets emotional and starts acting irrational to i really don't like her.

    • @SegularRpork
      @SegularRpork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      To be fair, a lot of children cannot fully grasp the idea of death, so if anything, she was trying to help the kid, which she did try to. The problem was she assumed she was right, and the dad was wrong.

    • @charliwilde
      @charliwilde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      @@SegularRpork A lot of children, sure. But not a cancer paitent who has been sick for several years and is steadily getting worse, and whose mother died when they were a baby. To ask them if they understand that death isnt like a video game where you can reload is patronising and dismissive, given how long he had been ill and his family circumstances. One of the best ways to build a wall between you and a child is to treat them like they dont understand, or be condesending- they really resent it and will start dismissing you if the treatment continues. And yeah, she always assumes she's right which is a major failing in medicine, especially in an ER. Thankfully she isnt a real doctor!

  • @Claire-sx2hl
    @Claire-sx2hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +522

    At least the dad understands why he was arrested and not freak out and blame it on Dr Manning

    • @jinhongwang4871
      @jinhongwang4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hhhhhhhh. NooB

    • @liam2386
      @liam2386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      wonder how understanding he would be when he finds out dr manning and april were standing around lauhhing and forgot all about him literally minutes later

    • @mmmtastyalidzie2435
      @mmmtastyalidzie2435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      he had every right to blame it on her

    • @kauze_
      @kauze_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mmmtastyalidzie2435 Not really. He withheld medication and treatment from his child, and whatever the reasons may have been, he understands that it is a crime.

    • @kauze_
      @kauze_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmmtastyalidzie2435 Not really. He withheld medication and treatment from his child, and whatever the reasons may have been, he understands that it is a crime.

  • @maganoiitula9552
    @maganoiitula9552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Did they make Dr Manning unlikable on purpose?

    • @liam2386
      @liam2386 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@RYCH3 then she shouldnt be allowed to treat children lol

    • @maganoiitula9552
      @maganoiitula9552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@liam2386 Right?

    • @MissGroovyWitch
      @MissGroovyWitch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes

  • @potatopatooti
    @potatopatooti 2 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I swear this Dr is the worst in the whole show. Self righteous, dramatic, and cares more about her personal morals than any actual person. I hope we're not supposed to like her.

    • @sarahtobore2832
      @sarahtobore2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weirdo

    • @phoenixxam5812
      @phoenixxam5812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ik this is from one year ago but i literally agree with you

    • @user-eo1hd2xr5q
      @user-eo1hd2xr5q 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@phoenixxam5812 a year later and I agree to you.

  • @timestamp7732
    @timestamp7732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I feel for this little guy, I don’t know what it’s like to have cancer but I do have chronic pain. I’ve been in pain since I was so young. You contemplate life and death when you’re in so much pain for so long. Even at a young age. He definitely knows what he wants and it should definitely be honoured.

  • @hannahp.fletcher9969
    @hannahp.fletcher9969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +367

    I hate how dr manning cannot see that by forcing a child to go through chemotherapy that isnt even working is very traumatic for the child and parent. How she simply neglects how the child feels and instead believes what SHE THINKS HE FEELS, regardless of what hes actually experiencing. She's not the one going through it, she cannot force the child into chemo. Life is cruel sometimes, maybe the child wont survive, as heartbreaking as that is, she cannot legally (at least where i'm from) force the family to go through with chemo if they've clearly talked it through and decided themselves.
    "Wouldn't you want to keep fighting as hard as you can for that ONE chance?!" .... Sweetie ever heard of Quality of Life over Quantity?! That is condescending to assume the child doesnt know the concept of life and death as they are in the process of a life-threatening and progressive disease.

    • @bottle3124
      @bottle3124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How isn’t it working? They wanted to try a different medicine

    • @bottle3124
      @bottle3124 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also manning refused to call the cbs

  • @hanadive
    @hanadive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I always hate her when she gets all maternal and guilt tripping the parents like bruh i get your a parent yourself but your the doctor here you gotts be higher than that.

    • @sarahtobore2832
      @sarahtobore2832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You hate her for being a human being? But then people complain that doctors are too above it all and cold? Pick a lane.

    • @Andengradspolynomium
      @Andengradspolynomium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      There is a difference between being compassionate and being unprofessional. She is just unprofessional!

  • @reginahay4998
    @reginahay4998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    April was worse then doctor manning in this situation. She came to her senses before it was too late, but April put her in a awful position. She is a nurse and had no right to override a doctor

  • @leahfaith9113
    @leahfaith9113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Sometimes i feel like doctor manning (no clue about the spelling) her character isn’t fit for a doctor. while she is good at her work, she lets her emotions take control of her actions too many times in the course of the show.

    • @CarlosHuiskens
      @CarlosHuiskens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She's fit to be a doctor in the ficitional world of Chicago Med. You should know that these shows increase the overal emotional drama to an unrealistic point.

  • @chimmyswifeu
    @chimmyswifeu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Dr manning should not invalidate the kid's pain. Pain is subjective. 🥺 patients understand that doctors wanna save lives but sometimes pain itself is really too much to handle. 😢

  • @MissAlii432
    @MissAlii432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    That actress is incredible. I have to remember not to hate her, she portrays self absorbed so well

  • @Ahmad67475
    @Ahmad67475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    I love how they are adding the season and episode in the title

    • @jinhongwang4871
      @jinhongwang4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NooB

    • @chickennuggielord3656
      @chickennuggielord3656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same it’s very handy in case I want to watch that episode

    • @zoeknap9777
      @zoeknap9777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      SO many posts of clips on fb and everyones like “wHaT MOVie is ThIs?” After 10 comments saying chicago med over and over

    • @constantia738
      @constantia738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao

    • @maddisonjames9495
      @maddisonjames9495 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s in the description if that helps!

  • @marvolom787
    @marvolom787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Loving dad who just didn't want to prolong his kid's suffering got arrested and two b.... people are giggling.

    • @teresadownes2422
      @teresadownes2422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      When your child is put into care and you try to get your child back
      Your threatened
      Your sued
      Your arrested and sentenced
      You get framed for things that you didn't do
      Your harassed on a daily basis

    • @teresadownes2422
      @teresadownes2422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only time they hand you your child back is when your child turns 18

  • @katieminns9778
    @katieminns9778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Doctor Manning instantly accepted that she was wrong but April REPEATEDLY chooses life over suffering. She’s against abortion even in the best interests of the mother. I can’t stand her

  • @jamsaidemelo1367
    @jamsaidemelo1367 2 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Know it all, judgmental lady. I know they are placing her in a position to be liked, but she always gets on my nerves. So self righteous, acting like being a doctor and a mother allows her to decide how others feels.

  • @hyde7102
    @hyde7102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    They almost tore a whole family apart because they let their emotions get the better of them. And to think that they are laughing about it afterwards? Honestly, the writing is great to show the shitty behaviours of some of these doctors. It enrages me that they didn't respect the father and the child's choices. It pisses me off that they got child protective services involved as well, they only called because they weren't getting their way with the patient.

    • @dmf1301
      @dmf1301 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, they do have legal obligations to follow the law. They don’t get to pick and choose which laws to follow.
      What sucks is that the law says this father is inadequate, so what potentially happens to the kid? They dump him in a group home and force him to undergo the chemo without any support - the staff at the group home sure don’t have the resources to devote time to one kid!
      Or if he got placed in foster care the foster parents would obviously give some form of individual support, but the chances of anyone taking on a dying kid like that are very slim!
      So he dies all alone whilst the father is in jail for having the nerve to care about his son!
      That’s how it would play out - although the kid’s cancer improving because dad withheld medication puts a different spin on things. He’ll still go to a group home but he might not die.

  • @ShantieAnge
    @ShantieAnge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    It was probably hard for the dad to hear that his son has givin up😢 but I am proud of him that he respects his wishes

  • @Hoodrattt
    @Hoodrattt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Am i the only one who just could pass out because of how serene that dad's voice is

  • @amandasnider2644
    @amandasnider2644 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I knew what death was from the age of 6 when my uncle died. Kids can absolutely understand what it is

  • @k4mohelo_
    @k4mohelo_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    yeah it's unfair but the kid has made his decision. you can't say "8 years isn't enough" when those 8 years have been nothing but pain and disappointment of not getting better ppl that are justifying Manning's/April's actions y'all weird asf and are invalidating the kids reaction:l

  • @ihavenocluewhatsappening4233
    @ihavenocluewhatsappening4233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I understand the dad. He wasn’t doing it against his son, he was trying to do the best for his son.

  • @vicethane
    @vicethane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +519

    I never liked Manning honestly, she only sees what she wants to see and acts irrationally the very moment children are involved.
    Edit: Goddammit April, I hate that she didn't even wait for Radiology results before she pulled this nonsense my god.

    • @orianavisozky2195
      @orianavisozky2195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Ikr, she always thinks she's right and wouldn't consider thinking about the other side of the story.

    • @renubhuju2667
      @renubhuju2667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maning's character needs to be developed properly
      Thats not how a doctor responds

    • @sala-hp7dn
      @sala-hp7dn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IRL, no matter who you are, you would have been arrested. Chemo is the medicine to help to improve the cancer. It would be the right thing to try to do anything to save that child's life no matter the circumstances. So for this situation, though i did not like the decision, it was the best thing tk do.

    • @olgak4446
      @olgak4446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sala-hp7dn but there have been cases where child patient was allowed to choose whether or not continue the treatment. It’s few and far between but it does happen

    • @syedmohammedtarique3087
      @syedmohammedtarique3087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I truly wouldn't mind if Dr Manning and April weren't in the show any longer

  • @Divya-ht5in
    @Divya-ht5in ปีที่แล้ว +17

    2:26 As a childhood cancer survivor, when you are facing life and death situation almost every day you DEFINITELY understand the concept of life and death....
    As a child understood more of what life and death was than maybe a 30 yr old.... Why ?? Because i was the once facing life and death ... That 30yr old did not !!!
    And now i am actually 30 yrs old and the experience and the understanding of life and death , i still carry with me...

  • @so_frailejon
    @so_frailejon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I seriously hate April. She's just so stubborn and she's always trying to do whatever she thinks, doesn't matter what problems that may cause

  • @NemuriNezumi94
    @NemuriNezumi94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    'Tell him to keep on fighting'
    Says the worker in a messed system in which most people can't afford, and even rich people can become poor if they end up with something as bad as cancer etc

  • @BlastFromThePastTheGoodOldDays
    @BlastFromThePastTheGoodOldDays 2 ปีที่แล้ว +458

    It is soo easy to judge what the 'right' and 'wrong' thing to do from an outside perspective. But unless you are living with this situation, it is hard to say how you will react.
    It is easy to judge the father for not forcing the child to take the medication which is a double edge sword, because it is essentially poisoning the boy to try and make him better. But to live knowing you are forcing your child through pain and suffering with little result, while your child is begging you to stop and let their pain end. it must be hard.
    Also if the kid didn't want to take the oral pills, how was the father going to force him? prize open his jaws and force the pill down his throat?

    • @jinhongwang4871
      @jinhongwang4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      NooB NooB NooB

    • @natashathompson1590
      @natashathompson1590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Was the kids father released

    • @finnsnow2495
      @finnsnow2495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean she's just a doctor she's not suppose to be respectful and unbias right?

  • @nikola5935
    @nikola5935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    god this is so unfair for this little boy :(

  • @zinzolin14
    @zinzolin14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The dad has a really nice voice

  • @karanhdream
    @karanhdream ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love is about letting go, not hold on at all cost. That father and his son were so wise and loving... Truly loving.

  • @LE76ABN
    @LE76ABN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    the son didnt want the kemo and he had a tumour in his brain not taking the kemo helped the tumour

    • @buffya8012
      @buffya8012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *chemo and he didn’t have a brain tumor he had non-Hodgkins lymphoma which is a cancer of the lymph glands/organs

  • @leonpetrichiutto1152
    @leonpetrichiutto1152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm sick of Dr. Manning. Very unprofessional as a doctor.

  • @awakentiger31
    @awakentiger31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Me - don’t cry
    Gabe - I’ve had my time
    Me - gets tears

  • @dangotv6563
    @dangotv6563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I can understand the kid and the father,Dr Manning just needs to mind her business. Every normal doctor would have lost their licence looooongggg ago

    • @RYCH3
      @RYCH3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She has done this before. She forced anti-biotics into a 2-year-old against The Parent's will. She should have lost her license forever for invading privacy and medical abuse.

  • @biancab8832
    @biancab8832 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I hate it when doctors say that kids don't understand things! Usually they don't, but when you've been sick for so long the pain, suffering, fear make you grow up quicker and understand things better. Being closer to death makes you understand it. You start acting like an adult even if you don't want to because you start worrying like one. Belive me, I speak from experience.

  • @imogenhansen9672
    @imogenhansen9672 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My mum has had leukemia but she did not stop fighting and im really proud of her

  • @haleyh6921
    @haleyh6921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    the fact that he was just smiling cause his son was gonna be okay

  • @LadyCheshire95
    @LadyCheshire95 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So parents can refuse all treatment and thats their decision. While one refuses a treatment and he's arrested? How does that make sense

  • @justaboutthat3692
    @justaboutthat3692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Dr Mannings is very ignorant. Why is it that he cannot choose not to take the medications because he's a child?
    People tend to think, kids don't know how to make decisions on their own. Smh.

  • @claudialind8961
    @claudialind8961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    NGL I don’t blame Manning as much as I blame April. April made the final call and told her she would call if Manning didn’t. Manning wanted to hold off, and ended up fighting for the dad in the end.

    • @rustyhowe3907
      @rustyhowe3907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, Manning was on her usual moral high-horse whereas April was just back stabbing considering they hadn't even gotten results in yet.
      Realistically that would severely hammer any kind of prosecution on the dad out of existence and instead put at least April in court for gross negligence. Manning would've gone under long ago but here she was overstepping her medical oath by giving emotional responses.

  • @MrFrosty5026
    @MrFrosty5026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    So glad I can go watch full thing on Netflix and not spend 20 minutes searching for the next part :)

  • @saphireaxe7738
    @saphireaxe7738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In that other episode where a mother gets pregnant solely to use the baby as a donor for her 8 year old daughter with leukemia, Dr Manning literally encourages the daughter to go against what her parents are doing for her but over here the 8 year old boy's brain is too "underdeveloped" to understand the concepts of life and death?
    And in another episode Dr Halstead gets tired of Manning constantly disregarding his suggestions and opinions and always doing any procedure that is suitable in her opinion; he literally asks her as to why she keeps on taking control of such situations, and she literally ignores the question😂😂
    And the same trend is also seen between the nurse and Dr Choi in future episodes 😂
    It seems that in this universe maternal instinct is always more effective than pure fact😂

  • @attyart4785
    @attyart4785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    This is something, that should be a childs decision, not parents, not the doctors... whether you want to live or not is not somebodyelse's decision... it's not like vaccination, that is actually a necessity to ensure the child can survive until adulthood... but if somebody is really sick and in pains, they should have a choice

  • @Pozzaa90
    @Pozzaa90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how this series always makes a joke out of body autonomy...

  • @alessaross3559
    @alessaross3559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    By 8 years olds a child does understand those concepts, unless they're mentally disabled or just haven't been taught. 6 years + is the average, and some know sooner or later. The concept that the kid doesn't understand is ridiculous and ignorant.
    Once she spoke to the kid, Dr. Manning should realize she was wrong and that the child very clearly understood.

    • @SimsinWonderland
      @SimsinWonderland 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what I was thinking, it’s not like he’s 3. Even if he didn’t the dad makes the decision on his behalf in the end and he DOES know enough to know how far to take his child’s feelings into consideration

  • @jozefalkhoury1606
    @jozefalkhoury1606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Honestly, I would've been mad as hell if l was the dad

  • @malu8841
    @malu8841 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This woman is so overstepping, I get it that his son is not capable of making such decision, but it's SO unethical of her part to insist on care when he just wants to help his son live the best rest of life he gets. He's a confused and scared adult, and her job is to inform and support, ONLY. Doctors can NEVER tell a patient, much less a CHILD that they HAVE TO fight their cancer. This fills me with hate for her character
    Edit: I justo got to the part that he got arrested. WHY??? This is basic right to refuse treatment. It doesn't make sense. Why did this sweet man get arrested??

  • @aronderocchi
    @aronderocchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:13 Wow strong meaning behind it, but I guess if you fight that mutch make sense youre gonna be out of will to do anything else to stop the pain.

  • @polypapa6619
    @polypapa6619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wise dad. Even wiser little boy

  • @anastasiav6
    @anastasiav6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m so happy that I have Chicago med on Netflix where I live!! I’m going to watch everything

  • @dragon_toad
    @dragon_toad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can't comprehend life or death? Uh...eight year olds can understand what death means. Tell them their pet dog has been hit by a car, they're going to cry, not go "what does that mean?".

    • @LucyQ-ew6zp
      @LucyQ-ew6zp ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, of course, but I don't know if a kid can fully understand what death is.
      If they fully understood it, why would parents tell...I don't know, a 5-year-old whose greatgrandmother died "She is in Heaven", "She is with your greatgrandad now" and things like that and not straight out that "She died"? And 8-year-olds can't fully understand what dying means and what happens after it either.

  • @zainebhammouda5529
    @zainebhammouda5529 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The amount of times these doctors have ignored their patients wishes.. is unbelievable and infuriating
    They are tooo freaking emotional

  • @Divya-ht5in
    @Divya-ht5in ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't remember what the cases name was but In Canada there was a huge case regarding a native American family take their daughter out of chemotherapy and make her survive through natural native American methods...
    The parents got a lot of Backlash and a case against them etc ... And i remember Dr.Abla who was my oncologist when i was younger... Was the same doctor of of that native American girl .....
    And Dr. Abla actually came out and said that girl would have Lasted maybe 1-2 yrs with the chemotherapy but 2 yrs would be full of pain ....
    Whereas, when the parents took her off chemotherapy she only survived 9 months but a much mord painless 9 months she could spend in her own freedom rather than being confined in 4 walls of hospital and suffering in pain just to last a maybe a few yrs ...
    It's quality of quantity...
    At that point her parents wanted her to live whatever life she has left with a quality live and rather than extending the quantity of years she lives only to decrease the quality of her life....

    • @rustyhowe3907
      @rustyhowe3907 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's amazing how context shows everything, her parents really just wanted a last hurrah for their little girl to die in peace and without pain.
      I can see article headlines though mangling that to make a *very* different story.

  • @SoupyBowl
    @SoupyBowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I'm so grateful that it's on Netflix now

    • @Ytreecv
      @Ytreecv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      whaaaat? it is? :o

    • @its_padziu621
      @its_padziu621 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is?

    • @aphrodite2753
      @aphrodite2753 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is?

    • @mikaelcyr3942
      @mikaelcyr3942 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh you better not be trolling

    • @Jenny-eo5oq
      @Jenny-eo5oq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it is y’all I just checked

  • @off2neptune130
    @off2neptune130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Don't you just love how, even though Chicago med is part of a trilogy, it doesn't have any connection with the other two Chicago's, unless it's a crossover? :)

  • @majidsaid3616
    @majidsaid3616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    chicago official coming out with more amazing episodes, you love to see it

  • @Thearrowstrikes
    @Thearrowstrikes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’m on the fathers side with this one actually. I personally don’t believe in choosing whether we live or die, but at the same time why would you knowingly put yourself through awful suffering when it may not even be helpful in the end, and if the person begs you to stop repeatedly then you’ve got to at least take that into consideration. Otherwise it makes you selfish because you’re putting their quality of life after your own wishes of having them there even though they are going through so much. And don’t want to. It doesn’t matter if he’s a child. I think people would only fully understand the implications and horror if they have been through something like that themselves, otherwise they can just spout opinions that don’t even make sense. Including Dr Manning in this clip. I can only imagine the horrible horrible pain it must’ve caused the father, just thinking about something like that happening with my loved ones and how hard it would be for me to just give up and how much I would want to carry on even if they didn’t want to. But a strong person would listen to their loved ones even if it killed them. Which of course it would.
    Not literally, but inside.

  • @maramackenzie-mann
    @maramackenzie-mann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The idea that an eight year old is incapable of understanding death is just more of the same bullshit. Children are not idiots, sure they don't often have the context of experience but I would have expected her to try and explain this to a five year old but an eight year old, especially a cancer patient of so many years, would be terrifyingly intimate with the idea of death and has his own opinions on what he wants. Opinions his father understood.

  • @haleyh6921
    @haleyh6921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the one time doctor manning was reasonable and april DID WHAT

  • @sameerahzaman6109
    @sameerahzaman6109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At least the boy understand that everyone has a certain amount of time to live

  • @mshinektunes9362
    @mshinektunes9362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It honestly ticks me off that some adults do think like this as if children are dumb and unable to understand things especially at 8 but children mature at different rates and especially for those suffering through chronic illness the children understand more then what adults think they do

  • @Mortimer555
    @Mortimer555 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Respect for the kid and the dad

  • @blackdragon51862
    @blackdragon51862 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The dad is not wrong. This kid doesn't want to suffer anymore. There are times when cancers resurface again after treatment. The patient has to go through hell twice. If the dad truly wanted his son dead he wouldn't rush him to the hospital.

  • @ram.4152
    @ram.4152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sometimes .... I forget that everyone in this show are actors and that it is not a real hospital

  • @chideraokoye3434
    @chideraokoye3434 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    his father was ready to fight to stay by his side, but he switched immediately he heard he would get better, the happiness must have been something else

  • @sonalijootun1712
    @sonalijootun1712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yaya is such a talented actress

  • @mdm934
    @mdm934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My sister had a 4 stage cancer at the beginning of COVID pandemic. Travel pan was in place, no inter-state travel was restricted and the only treatment can be done was locally.
    It was horrible. we were scared to the max. sometime I wanted to give up but we kept moving. we tried to keep her as positive as we can. We didn't visit anybody during her treatment and we lost grandma without seeing her for more than a year.
    Thankfully she is cancer free. What am trying to say no matter how painful the experience is there is always a light at the end of the tunnel

    • @jeffpage1000
      @jeffpage1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      But by the end of the day, it's the person's decision whether keep on fighting or to put an end to their suffering. Everyone has their own way when dealing with pain

    • @user-dy4zv3rb7n
      @user-dy4zv3rb7n 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So glad to hear she's well!

  • @Alinasinging
    @Alinasinging ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have Manning’s character. I literally stoped watching this show because of her.
    I have so much respect for the father 😢

  • @sxmplyyhannah5890
    @sxmplyyhannah5890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love you guys! ♥️

  • @dobltroblegames5409
    @dobltroblegames5409 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:15 the sentence this kid said was the wisest thing I’ve ever heard

  • @iestynprogames8523
    @iestynprogames8523 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I don’t get it it’s a parents choice for there child’s medical choices how did he get arrested?

    • @sala-hp7dn
      @sala-hp7dn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because he was willing to withhold the medication which is meant to keep him from dying. IRL, thats child neglect, so yes, i understand their decision, though i did not like it.

  • @NessieNice
    @NessieNice ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even if a kid with cancer doesn't yet understand life and death, they sure understand the pain going on

  • @Mububban23
    @Mububban23 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whilst being fully aware that some decisions cannot be made by young children, one thing that has constantly surprised me at every stage of development, is just how surprisingly capable kids can be if you actually allow them some control over things. Age appropriate of course. So to tell a young kid with a dead mom and who's been through the medical wringer, that he doesn't understand life and death and consequences - that's one I may be tempted to let the kid choose too, if my family was in that situation 😢

  • @thomasplouffe326
    @thomasplouffe326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    “everyone has their time to live, I’ve had mine” buddy, your only 8 years old. That’s not enough time little guy, your just a little boy your time isn’t up yet

    • @ink3539
      @ink3539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      this is so sad because in our eyes his life had only just started - but he was suffering so much.

    • @bubbleblow7461
      @bubbleblow7461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      You or anyone else doesn't get to decide that, he does. If you have lived through 8 years of excruciating pain, 8 years is enough.

    • @moonluna464
      @moonluna464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you're constantly in pain, you understand why some people decide this. I have my euthanasia papers ready if needed.

    • @milicadjordjevic4498
      @milicadjordjevic4498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bubbleblow7461 you're enabling quitters, cowards, suicide killers.
      This life you live only once. You fall down, you get up.
      Its especially disturbing and disgusting you're saying these things about a little boy.

    • @bubbleblow7461
      @bubbleblow7461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@milicadjordjevic4498 Oh shut up, that's easy to say when you never had to face real problems. Go live on in your privileged life while the real people with real problems talk what life is actually like.

  • @thomasplouffe1363
    @thomasplouffe1363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor little guy.....only 8 and he dosen’t want to fight anymore

  • @kenyanbee753
    @kenyanbee753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Manning trying to manipulate that child was low
    Fucking April

  • @Erina88888
    @Erina88888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m glad this is fictional because it’s so wrong to impose a medical decision even though the child already decided on another one. Unless it’s clear someone else manipulated the child into dying, everyone should follow their wishes.

  • @gheata_playz874
    @gheata_playz874 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love as soon as he said it the son started spazzing out

  • @teklaeluwa2572
    @teklaeluwa2572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No because April just irritates me
    She’s emotional about everything which just gets to me, if she had taken the time to reason the dad’s decision how wouldn’t have gotten arrested
    Also kids understand a lot more then they’re given credit for.

  • @giselesimoes9538
    @giselesimoes9538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uma Equipe Fantástica admiro muito as atitudes deles cada um com tua forma de trabalhar acertando ou errando Parabéns para vocês💓

  • @sarahwi8226
    @sarahwi8226 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This show is just the best! Keep it up👏😘

  • @xxbexx_lynnexx
    @xxbexx_lynnexx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How can she talk to that incredibly wise and emotionally intelligent child and think that they don't understand the concept of death.

  • @NectazzUniverse
    @NectazzUniverse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:24 I wish she just bursted into "Lose yourself"

  • @renubhuju2667
    @renubhuju2667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Maning is so irritating and invasive and too emotional
    Does not understand that the person in front can evaluate the situation

  • @vanessav65
    @vanessav65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would have respect the wishes of the child and letting him go. People are so stupid thinking dying is bad , they just want people to keep on suffering so they can feel better about their own fear of dying. They purposely let people they claim to love suffer more and longer and not even listening to them when they want to die. That is wrong

    • @LucyQ-ew6zp
      @LucyQ-ew6zp ปีที่แล้ว

      While in a way, I do agree with you, I can't say dying is a good thing.
      My baby daughter died, and I can't say it's a good thing and I'm happy about it.
      I do believe she is in Heaven and not hurting anymore, but I'm still not happy Emily is not here with me.

  • @Basil_spokes
    @Basil_spokes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doctor manning is my all time fav ngl

  • @rdgloveshouse
    @rdgloveshouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would sue the nurse for prematurely having him arrested lol

  • @heydontdoitplease1563
    @heydontdoitplease1563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think they should let the father out cuz the father technically saved his son’s life and they arrested him for that? This ep did not have common logic

  • @chocofudge4638
    @chocofudge4638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that nurse though😡 moral lesson was, just.don't speak too soon. the father wasn't a bad person.he chose to respect his child's descision and it turned out to be the right one. but no, the doctor spoke this and that.then that nurse reported asap. WOW

  • @shaunwood9784
    @shaunwood9784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poor kid