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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ค. 2024
- Today, I'm reviewing the Lenovo Legion Slim 5 14 inch model with the RTX4060 and a Ryzen 7. This laptop is a real winner and I highly recommend it to anyone who wants portable PC gaming on the go.
If you haven't checked out my Lenovo Legion Slim 7i video yet, please give it a watch here: • I Returned the Lenovo ...
Chapters:
00:00 Intro & Quick Look
02:28 Get to the Point
04:16 Lies of P
09:09 Baldur's Gate III
13:54 Grounded
18:05 Cyberpunk 2077
22:05 Alan Wake 2
26:04 Alan Wake 2 Spoiler & Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I got this computer two weeks ago and I agree with everything you said about this laptop. It is beautifully made, it is a powerhouse and it just works. Way better than rog 14 inch.
It's such a capable laptop and all you really need. DLSS really bridges the gap.
I decided on the ROG 14, 1) b/c of the gsync since I mainly game and 2) b/c of the matte screen since I have a ton of lights in my home
Hi, what about topcase temperature? Is it possible to touch it or it’s like Msi creator z16, where topcase temperature is about 70 degrees Celsius?
Is the screen pwm annoying? @@Payne.
+1 to removing the stickers immediately.
great video, made me swap out my Legion 5 16 to the 14 inch model and I couldn't be more happy!
I am honestly surpriced the 14 inch model is priced this competetively.
It's really amazing for the money. The 16:10 screen ratio and 14.5 inch makes it seem like a 16 inch laptop.
I got this laptop 2 weeks ago, love it. Played all of Alan Wake 2 on it. Ran like a champ. Did have a screen flickering issue pop up yesterday where the screen would blink in certain apps. Talked with customer service and we reset the bios and redownloaded some drivers and it went away. Very happy.
I was genuinely surprised it ran as well as it did. Does your laptop get really hot on the bottom? Mine gets so hot you can't really touch it and I'm not sure if it's because I put another SSD jn there.
@@Payne. I haven’t noticed it getting hot on the bottom. But i typically have it on a surface. Don’t really use my “lap”
Is the flickering still gone? I just had to return another OLED laptop for that same issue that never went away even after ROR repairs etc
@@gangganggang2219 I called Lenova and they walked me through some things and that issue is solved. Every once in a while I will get a white screen for a split second when I open TH-cam but that’s all.
Just ordered the Slim 7. My usage are mostly productivity (software development and music recording) and that's fantastic that I can also do some casual gaming as well. Great review.
You'll be very happy.
do you use linux?
@@azer6887 I use windows as host cuz most of my music production apps and drivers are only available for Windows, but I heavily use Linux distros as VMs for other dev work I do.
this is a very well made video i appreciate your efforts, i watched your 7i video when i was looking to buy the 14" slim 5 but didnt end up getting it even though the huge sale, thanks for the video
Thank you for the kind words.
hey mate, at what price u got it for?
@@RISHABHSINGH-kx7ex I ended up getting a legion slim 5i 16” I got it for 1999 AUD with i7 13700H and Rtx 4060
Can't wait to get mine next week!!
so excited for this laptop will be getting it on 21th 🎉🎉
Let me know what you think once you have it.
This review is what we need to see. I whole heartedly feel the Asus g14 gets so much more attention due to there marketing dollars but for the price, quality, and performance of the Lenovo slim 5 you think way more reviewers would be talking about this right now. Thank you for shedding light on this incredible machine. Has to be the best deal on the market right now with the markdowns.
I really expected Lenovo to charge more, it's a little powerhouse.
I’m getting excited for the world of horror review! I love that it takes after Junji Ito’s style of art and horror, keen to hear what you think of it 😁
It's such a great game! The video should be out soon.
You can get a small boost by using a regular 1440p monitor which makes sense if you're using this laptop as a PC replacement. But it's really interesting to see that it does run everything in the higher native resolution.
That's what really surprised me. I wasn't expecting it to run so well, especially on Alan Wake 2.
Great video but can I suggest maybe in the future record the pixel footage in a slightly darker area to prevent the glare on the screen and if its possible to record in HDR in the future that would improve the quality of the videos even more, thank you for playing and sharing the game like the average gamer would so we have a most realistic view on the performance!
I appreciate the advice and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Have a great New Year.
It really does just work. I tried about 9 laptops and this was the only one that actually did what it said without burning up or having some power issue or some sort of glitchy setup. Lenovo really finished this laptop where most laptops feel like unfinished products in one way or another.
Agreed. I've used a number of "incomplete" laptops over the years and at this point I was really surprised this laptop performed as well as it did. A lot of the time I think there is just too much tech under the hood or hardware incompatibilities cause problems.
i was not expecting that
You and me both. Especially after my previous laptop had so many issues.
Hey, great video. Just one question, how does it perform on external monitors? I considered coupling it with a 27" 1080p for game development and playing some games.
Works fine. I have it paired with a 32" 4K monitor and often run games at 4K with DLSS turned on. I'm playing Remnant 2 at 4K right now.
Great video and overview. This model is the one with an OLED screen right?
Yes it is! It's really nice.
Hey there! Thanks for all the reviews and updates with this issue! I believe the 7i problem lied with some bios/driver issue; the stuttering seems like the computer switching randomly between the iGPU and the dGPU.
Now that you have thoroughly tested both , how do you see the screen size of the 14' to use without an additional monitor? I wanted to buy a P1 G6 as a mobile workstation, but saw that the thinkpads have a really serious issue with overheating :(, spent a whole night re-researching my options and ended up deciding between the slim5 14 (the 16' looks awfull honestly, although technically makes more sense lol), and the 7i; and I would 100% would go with the slim 5, but Im afraid that the screen might be too small for photoshop (i mainly do image editing).
Also, how did you see the 7i performance while working on it? I barely game, so maybe your issue wouldnt affect me so much, since I can just manually switch to balanced/performance before gaming once or twice a month :v.
Thank you for the kind words. I personally don't use the 14" to edit video, I really rely on a monitor for that. I have used a P1, P16 and P17 and the P17 overheated initially. After a firmware update and setting it to performance via the Windows power settings, the issue was resolved.
The 7i was fine for editing videos, and the model I used was the 2023 one. I'm sure the most recent release is fine and I just got a dud. In the end, I love the Slim 5 for its build and versatility, it's a little workhorse.
Honestly, I’m impressed at how well it handled most games at a resolution I’d expect you’d need a 4070 for. DLSS+FrameGen is really something.
As to fan noise, a comfy set of over the ear noise canceling headphones is key for laptop gaming, imo. Fan noise is the type of white noise that noise canceling is excellent at deleting, and I find that plenty of games have a lot of effects that you flat out miss if you have typical weak laptop speakers fighting fan noise.
I've got a pair of noise cancelling headphones which work great. I often sit next to my wife while on the couch and choose to run off quiet mode.
You can't leave this on your lap for long otherwise you'll burn your legs. 🔥
@@Payne. Can you really leave anything actively utilizing discrete graphics to do something computationally intensive on your lap though? Maybe (maybe) a Mac?
I came from the Beau Lenovo Legion Slim 5 review video and saw the comment where you mentioned your 16gb Ram had few preformance problems.
I'm currently looking at buying a 16gb Ram version because we don't have a 32gb Ram option here in Croatia. I only saw positive reviews for it, but your comment concerns me tbh. Would you recommend it?
Hey Karlo, so that comment you read was a follow on from a previous comment Beau made around RAM being the issue. Nothing was tested, it was just speculation that the 16gb of RAM could be a bottleneck. It really depends on what you're using the laptop for, but 16gb will absolutely be enough for a vast majority of games.
32gb really helps with Premiere while performing other tasks at the same time. I'm sure you'll be fine. Let me know if you go ahead and purchase it!
Also, just an FYI, in Australia 32gb of RAM was only available in the Ryzen 7 config, is there any chance it's the same for you?
Thank you!
ordered one - iam happy ! haha
Hi Payne. Great review. Thank you. I just received one myself.
Legion Slim 5 Gen 8 AMD 14" RTX 4060 32gig 1tb. I find I have a whistling fan noise at low RPM's kind of like a small baby jet engine. Did you find that was the case with your review laptop. Thank you.
Hi, thank you for the kind words. I don't have that issue.
It's very loud on performance mode and runs hot but I've never had any whistling noise. Does it happen on balanced mode?
@@Payne. What happens. As soon as the fan kicks in no matter what mode right at the beginning you can hear a small faint whistle noise. Almost similar to a faint whistle noise you get in your nose at rare times lol. hmm maybe, anyways. If the fans need to go faster the noise goes away, and you hear clean fans running. But if they need to stay at their lowest RPM's then that noise just sticks around pretty much always. I talked to Lenovo and their more than happy to replace the laptop. So, I am doing some battery tests to see the efficiency at power saving mode and GPU off mode to see how I like it.
@Payne. - Did you put a thermal pad on the additional NVME SSD you installed? It looks like the thermal pad on that side just covers the Wifi card. I don't have mine yet but curious, thank you!
I didn't and I probably should have! I have this problem when gaming for a long time where Bluetooth drops out and all my peripherals disconnect, I'm now wondering if the WiFi card is overheating.
I need to open the laptop back up and check if it's an Intel or a Meditek card as I've heard the latter has problems. Thanks for this comment.
new sub…i plan on buying one of the legions …this ones very intriguing
It's a good one, quite affordable especially on sale.
love that you can upgrade the ssd
I watched another review where they noted that it was very loud outside of quiet mode. And that balanced mode was not a middle sound level, but rather very loud. Can you give your opinion on this? Or any other users?
Balanced only sounds similar to Performance if the AI tickbox in Vantage is selected. That setting causes the fans to ramp up and down depending on what's happening in your game. I use balanced without AI most of the time.
i was really on the fence about this laptop due to the lack of gsync and freesync. I went with the g14 for that reason. After watching this video its really making me rethink the g14
Gsync seems to be a big deal for a lot of people and honestly I thought it would be for me as well. Truth is I just can't tell the difference, maybe on certain titles but so far no Gsync hasn't been a problem.
I have this model and specs. I can say the screen tearing definitely happens. But it's more likely to happen when you limit fps. Over 100 fps, it doesn't happen nearly as much. But turning vsync on isn't bad. It's just not as good of a technology. In games where it's an issue I just turn it on and I don't notice it anymore or feel any input delay. I'm all for gaync but imo it's nowhere near a deal breaker. OLED is just too good I was not disappointed of the trade-off.
I will say they had on their specs after release that it supported freesync. That is not the case and they since removed that info from their sheet.
Tl;Dr
I never tried the G14. But the OLED was too good and I was concerned with g-sync as well. After using it. I never think about it. And it's a trade-off I considered worth
I have a slim 7 amd and it works flawlessly, very happy with it maybe the only thing I wanted is a mini led screen and better speaker
Those would make the slim 7i sooooo good
Glad to hear it's working so well for you! That will be reassuring to a lot of the people in the comments. I have the Legion Slim 5 with an OLED screen now and it's amazing. Mini LED would make it perfect.
Still didn't get the differences between OLED vs. miniLED vs. IPS. [power consumption difference especially]
Just know OLED burn-ins is a real thing people are worried about. I did read a post about a burn-in for a miniLED that slowly was recovered. Very weird. All laptops are coming out with an OLED today...
Hey man, great video! I'm wondering what kind of battery life you can get out of this thing while gaming? Both with heavy AAA titles like the ones you showed, and lighter gaming.
Not much. I never play off battery but a couple of times I've forgotten to plug in when playing Destiny 2 on dedicated graphics. What I can say is that it runs really well without being plugged in, almost to the point that you don't notice. I've definitely played for around 30 minutes before the screen dimmed and it went into power saving.
I do 45 minutes train rides with indie titles and I still have more than half my battery left. I'm sure I'd get more running on the iGPU.
@@Payne. Ah. So it's pretty similar to my 2020 Legion 5 then. Thanks for the reply!
Related to "burning legs" problem, just go to registry and disable boost for cpu, you will get up to 20 degrees lower temps with minor fps drops. First thing I do on any AMD based laptop.
I'll give it a try now. How much does this impact the performance of the laptop on CPU intensive tasks?
Should I get the slim 5 or 5 pro as my first gaming laptop? Its gonna stay most of the time plugged, and also what cpu should i choose, 7840hs, i 5 13500h ? Im worried about fan noise
To put it simply if it's going to stay plugged in I don't recommend any of the Slim models. Will you have an external monitor? If not make sure you get a larger screen.
The Slim 5 is great for portability and its OLED screen but you'll get more out of a non-slim model. No matter what model you pick fan noise will be noticeable on Balanced and Performance mode. Any pair of headphones will sort that out though.
Seems the stuttering issue has been resolved on this out of the box. I wonder if it does comeback if graphics is set to hybrid.
The stuttering issue was only present on the Slim 7i. I personally think the i9 with a 4070 was too much heat in such a small.package. Many people never had this issue so I was just unlucky.
There is no stuttering on Hybrid mode. It works great at the cost of a few FPS.
Just got this lap top for &900 from Best Buy. How long do you think the 4060 will last me to play some of the newer games?
Depends on the game and what your expectations are. It ran Alan Wake 2, but you'll need DLSS and a lower resolution. I think it will last you a good few years at 1080p at DLSS turned on for the more demanding titles. I'll be picking up Dragons Dogma 2 this week, and I'll let you know how it runs.
@@Payne. sweet! Looking forward to the update on that. I figured for the price it wasn’t too bad. Still considering a 4070 but I hear the different is not that big. Maybe upgrade in a couple years
Is there an alternative 14 inch laptop to the legion slim 5 currently in 2024, or is this still the best bang for your buck if you want a 14 inch model? One with 32 gb.....
HP Omen Transcend 14inch is meant to be good but I can't see a 32GB model. I'd love to review one!
isn't CPU Temperature one of the most important OSD sensors to present to an audience when evaluating a laptop? It would be quite helpful reference?
I'll remember that for next time, thanks for your feedback.
I personally like those stickers! I also tried to order one with Ryzen 9, but no 32G memory option was available in US. Not that Ryzen 9 is really that much more than the 7, so I went with the 32G and Ryzen 7. Takes almost a month and half to deliver!
The main reason I remove them is that I've seen the discolouration it causes then they inevitably come off by themselves. This is often many years down the line and by then most people don't care! I guess I'm just pulling the bandaid off early.
32GB is absolutely the way to go, what games will you play?
Good review, I’ve subbed 👍
Thank you, it means a lot. Merry Christmas!
Hey@@Payne. when you put the 2nd SSD in did the standoff screw fit the SSD ok? I brought this laptop based on your review plus others and no regrets however when installing my second SSD a Lexar NQ790 (NM790) the screw in the motherboard doesnt have a big enough gap to take the SSD to hold it down in place, very odd.
Great question and I had the same issue! So that screw actually splits in two. Before putting the SSD in, try and gently turn the top part of the screw to separate it from the bottom. Then rest the SSD on the bottom part of the screw when installing, and then screw in with the top bit.
Not the best technical explanation on my behalf, but I hope it made sense.@@Happy_Snapper
@@Payne. thank you so much ❤️
You the man, when I unscrewed it the whole piece came out orginaly. Now sorted 👍 @@Payne.
Where did you pick it up from? Looking for one especially with a deal.
Direct from Lenovo, there aren't many resellers in Australia. I got it during a Black Friday sale, but they have sales constantly.
With that 14.5” screen - even if you run it at about 1080p resolution you will still have way higher PPI than running 4K on a 27” monitor. If you want to max out the FPS I would think turning down the resolution would potentially be the best option.
Absolutely. A lot of the games I'm playing run great at native resolution with DLSS on but going to 1080p doesn't impact the quality that much on a 14".
What is that Auto HDR and won't it mess with Video and Photo editing?
Can you disable it and just get normal consistent colors?
Great question. You can disable Auto HDR in Windows manually or have it only activate when a game that doesn't have native HDR supports it.
There is also a separate piece of software that changes colour profiles called X Rite. It won't impact your video and photo editing.
The laptop does have an hdmi 2.1 port though, so if you were to connect to a gsync capable tv or external monitor via hdmi would it work?
I guess I'm asking if the lack of gsync is strictly due to the diaplay panel, or if it's not available in the graphics card
It would work, it just isn't native Gsync. It doesn't make a difference to me though. Not saying Gsync is overrated, it just doesn't matter a whole lot to my gaming experience.
Mr Payne Is Legion Pro 5 worth it ? the 4060 and 7745hx one over this one ?
Are there major performance diff ?
What about temps ?
Also, in your opinion is 4070 laptop worth it over 4060 ?
The 4070 is better but not by much, maybe 15%. There is a great video by Jarrods's Tech on TH-cam that will explain it better.
I would have kept my 4070 laptop but it had issues with micro stutter so I had to return it. The 4060 and 4070 have the same VRAM.
what about legion 5 pro and legion 5 slim ?@@Payne.
All comes down to the screen and portability. The Slim 5 for the OLED is the clear choice and the 14.5" screen is perfect.@@sun_ada
I heard that the slim will overheat when using for long periods over PRO 5.
PRO 5 also has 240hz and 500nits of brightness. I mean, thats the only difference I can see.
I am really not sure what to choose.@@Payne.
@@sun_adago for the pro
Anyone know why I can’t find the 32gb ram with oled now? Or where I can find one. Thanks in advance
In Australia they are still available.
How would you clean the glue residue of those stickers?
If you get to the stickers before you use the laptop too many times then it's quite easy to remove and you can use the stickers to pick up bits left behind.
Once heat gets involved it becomes a bit stickier and then you would probably need to use a good remover. I'm sure someone in the comments will know.
The big problem is if you leave it for too long, then there is discolouration where the stickers are.
I "was" gonna get this as a sidegrade for my asus advantage edition (the 6800M version) but I saw it uses PWM even on 100% brightness so I decided to skip it.
Oleds still have flicker issues sometimes that need to be addressed and PWM on top of that can be problematic.
Would you mind explaining PWM a little further?
Helpful review since I am looking into buying the g14 or slim5. Right now the g14 is the better deal since I have seen it go on sale for $1000 and the slim5 for $1050 on Best Buy. They both are good in my opinion and I know the slim5 is better overall but it has soldered ram. Where I am it is only available for 16 gigs not on sale on the Lenovo website so I can only buy it from Best Buy. The problem is that 16 gigs of ram is going to be enough in some time so the slim5 isn't good for the future. The g14 ram can be upgraded so it's just better for me. Do you think that's the right choice or is 16 gigs of ram more than enough for a long time?
If you can get 32GB that would be my preference. It really depends what you're doing with the laptop, gaming is fine on 16GB but any sort of video editing suffers without 32GB.
I won't be using softwares that need ram since I mostly just use it for gaming. Thanks for your answer since my current pc has only 8gb of ram which was the minimum when I bought it. I just don't want to make the same mistake with my new pc. Also I just can't seem to find a website selling a new slim 5 with 32 gigs of ram.@@Payne.
Hi there, you are the reason i didn't buy the Legion slim 7i and ordered this one instead, i appreciate your videos. I think it will take until end of January to arrive. Can you do a video testing out GTA 4 or 5 if you have it? Cheers
Hey, it's a great laptop and a great choice. I struggled a lot with the Legion 7i and still wish it worked out for me because I really liked the build. Have a great New Year.
What do you think about the soldered 16gb, would it be a deal breaker?
Unfortunately I do. It really depends what you're playing but I highly recommend getting he 32gb model.
@@Payne. I'm picking mine tomorrow, but might return because of that, thanx for replying
Hello ,mr squeaky . I just got mine ,it good sofar . But i update the amd Radeon software now it have display problem between 120hz and 60hz . It flickering. If i want to switch to 60.
That's strange. I haven't had that issue yet. Can you turn off adaptive display in Vantage?
Use the OEM Amd drivers, it works fine.
Hello, I'm asking you what's going on, the sound changes a lot and regarding g sync and pwm it doesn't cause any problems. Thanks, I'm between this model and the slim 7. I wanted the AMD version but I can't find it, only the Intel one is available.
What do you mean by the sound changes a lot?
Sorry, I was referring to the fact that you previously had the Slim 7 and if you were able to hear the audio compared to the Slim 5.. I'm not looking for crazy sound like a mac, but I would like to be able to enjoy a movie and have it sound and It looks good, as well as playing, but I understood that the sound is not the best, that's why I asked. you whether the sound of the SLIM 5 14.5 is acceptable or a failure and whether the money difference is worth it
I found the Slim 5 14.5 with 32 GB for 14
€1400
and the Silm 7 of 16 with 32 GB (intel) for 1899 euros
Thank you very much in advance and excellent review, upload more videos.@@Payne.
Amazing video, really enjoyed the review! Would you still recommend the slim 7i for extra power and build quality would you say?
Hard to say, I had a lot of trouble with it. The build quality is noticeably better, but for the money you can't beat the Slim 5 14".
Need a update on this laptop soon!
What would you like to know?
@@Payne. Just battery life, performance away from the charging plug - I returned my 2023 Blade because of microstutters all over Windows, annoyances that you have with the laptop after so long. The ports situation, maybe? I’m this close to purchasing this but the lack of USB4 is my main concern.
Can someone confirm if this laptop is also using top-side grill as air intake, same as legion slim 7 does? Thanks
Top side grill, yes. Also, the back and the bottom of the laptop.
Hey can u di a video of ur setting for rdr2 on this laptop please.?
Hey this video should help: th-cam.com/video/B2eI43eHDgI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PzUacNuLeaQEY7Pp
Is there screen tearing in Cyberpunk or Alan Wake 2? V-Sync was off, so I expected to see a lot of screen tearing in the video, especially on high contrast vertical lines. But I couldn't see any tearing in your video.
I honestly haven't noticed any screen tearing.
@@Payne. I will receive my Legion Slim 5 14" next week. Will test it. On my 60Hz OLED monitor without VRR I can't get a stutter or tearing free image with frame generation switched on. Maybe the 120hz makes the difference.
Any update? @@Alec831
@@Alec831any update
@@Alec831 and how is the tear on your slim? Im scared of buying it
I took the stickers off as well
I heard display doesn't support GSYNC, can you explain what disadvantages it brings by not having GSYNC?
GSync reduces screen tearing when you have a variable refresh rate. Meaning that if the game isn't locked to 30, 60 or 120fps you may see screen tearing...
Vsync does a lot of the heavy lifting but it isn't perfect. I often lock my games FPS when the game allows which is why an absence of GSync hasn't been a problem for me.
Thank you @@Payne.
Im thinking to buy slim 7 i7 4060 - what do you think ?
I think it's a good buy. The 4060 and 4070 aren't drastically different and they have the same VRAM.
Hey what do u record with on this laptop? I actually had trouble w OBS on this laptop, its quite bad
Nvidia ShadowPlay which is part of the GeForce Experience application. It isn't as demanding on your system resources as OBS.
@@Payne.thank u
Hello sir ,can i know your amd driver version . I forget old driver version
Driver Version:
22.40.03.59-230704a-394443C-Lenovo
I got the version with 16gb of ram by mistake. I wanted to get 32 gb. Is 16gb good or it is very less by today's standard. I will manly use it for data science, coding and games.
I really recommend the 32GB model if it's possible for you to get. It depends on how much more it costs.
I got the slim 5 16 in . I did up grade to 32 gigs. Mine is a 240 volt . Even when game playing I only heard the fans a few times. I did encode an hour and a half movie in less than 8 minutes.
i think you mean slim 7 16 and how you feels about the screen? it is IPS do you like it? and its matte or glossy?
The fan is quite loud on the 14" even on balanced. Noise cancelling headphones help with that but I feel bad for the people around me.
Hello, I bought a Legion 5 Slim16'' Amd7840hs rtx4060, I have a problem like the laptop makes a buzzing / electric noise when doing nothing, if I try to move with finger on touchpad the cursor, the noise either goes away or it will buzz louder, is this normal or I need to refund?
That doesn't sound normal. I'd reach out to Lenovo.
Hello!
Would you like to know what you would choose?
It is available at the same price and I should decide which one to buy.
Legion 7 Slim Ryzen 4060 32Ram 3.2K Glacier White
Legion 5 14.5 Ryzen 4060 16Ram
I would use it for everything, Office and IT work, leisure games/ TH-cam. I don't travel a lot, but then I would take it, I'm looking for a light machine.
Slim 7: I'm a little afraid that the 3.2K resolution will be insufficient in a short time, 4060 now ok but the downscaling is ugly(?). (There are no other dvga and display versions in my region)
Slim 5 14.5: I don't want to deal with OLED burn-in. Ok auto hide taskbar, but HUDs and the frames of my applications will be there during work. My eyes are sensitive, so the PWM is also negative. Last is the reflection on the screen. In all other respects, I like this machine for its size and performance.
I don't know what to choose :)
Slim 5. There are settings in Vantage to help with the burn in. The screen is very reflective and I don't know how much that will bother you.
@@Payne. Day two of Legion 14.5. I really like it, everything works as it should. However, it is difficult for me to get used to this high brightness and contrast. My eyes and head hurt. I hope I can get used to it.
Do you experience any coil whine (screeching noise)?
None so far! Only thing I've noticed is it gets extremely hot but I don't experience thermal throttling.
payna can you compare the slim 5 with the rog flow x13 (2023)
I wish I could but unless Asus sends me one for review I won't be able to.
oh but do you think the flow would have a chance?@@Payne.
Based on other comments, I would suggest the Legion is the better choice.@@neoax5370
You keep saying there is no GSync yet it has VRR in the Lenovo settings. I believe this was done for licensing reasons but it does have VRR and it works very well.
Correct. People are concerned by the lack of GSync specifically and it hasn't been a problem for me. All I'll say is that if a lack of GSync is stopping you from purchasing the laptop then I wouldn't worry.
@@Payne. In my experience G-Sync and FreeSync are just fancy names for VRR. To me its all the same and I ended up buying this laptop after using the G14 for a month and couldn't be happier.
Hi, does anyone know if it’s better to get the 7940 version with 16gb of ram or 7840 with 32gb ?
7840 with 32GB, no question.
I would strongly suggest you to stick with FULL HD with 4060 and 4070 for 14 screen, the way how nvidia divided their cards 4080 is massive 100% boost in QHD and 4K and 4090 another 25%, but the 4060 and 4070 tanks massively in QHD, basically only getting semi saved with frame generation and DLSS , but still 8GB VRAM vs 12 or 16 tanks it hard, even when not fps, textures takes time to load, far away objects are not there or slow to pop, stutters.. depending on how demanding you are, but its totally bonkers that PS 5 for one third of the price got 16gb VRAM and they are selling this 2k plus laptops with 8gb vram and have to pay 3500 to 4000 to reach that.. and basically every source confirming that 8gb vram throttles just now. today. And 16gb will be aging very well in next 4 years
Well said. It's amazing how much value to get out of a console in comparison to a mid range laptop. I'm effectively using this as a portable Xbox since a lot of Gamepass titles are cross save.
@@Payne. I was just trying Cyberpunk on a legion 5 rtx 2060 ultra preset without ray tracing and it got 40 fps in DLSS quality and 60 in DLSS performance benchmark . That DLSS is what saved these ( and now frame generation as well ), because native QHD and 4K falls apart completely ( and Ray Tracing ). 4060 should be 50% more in QHD and FULL HD, but really 4080 is a big jump with 100% performance in ray tracing and native QHD and 4K
Found your channel looking for a portable gaming laptop that allows me to record, edit, game for my own vids
Throwing you a sub because:
a. you're Australian
b. you're well spoken
c. you seem like a good dude
I've never used an AMD rig, do you think it'll be enough?
Also, do you think a 4060 is enough because I've been chasing a 4070/4080?
anyway back to my search
Thanks for this, I never ask for subs as I want to leave it up to my viewer to decide. I really appreciate you breaking down why subscribed, it means a lot.
As for AMD, it's a great CPU and has a particularly good iGPU if you decide to run in hybrid mode and don't need the dGPU running. Good battery life as well!
There isn't a major difference between the 4060 and 4070. If you can get a 4080 though I'd highly recommend it. You'll sacrifice size for power and only you can decide if that's worth it. I edit all my videos with Davinci Resolve now and the 4060 handles it really well, even better with the Studio version.
@@Payne. ah i think your reply came through just as i committed to the 16" one - i just couldn't say no to the 4070 lol
but would be keen to get a 14" in future one day perhaps
thanks for subbing back though - it's hugely appreciated but not necessary
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I think you will do well with the reviews if you're keen to do more!
Being Australian actually is a big deal to me because although it might sound superficial - you will mainly have access to the Aus delivered products so it feels more applicable to myself
Can’t find a model with an oled display on website
I believe only the 14" is OLED at the moment. Could be wrong.
No Thunderbolt4 port at all. It's the main drawback for this release. I hope Lenovo will upgrade it from future releases 🙏
Understandable. I don't miss having it...yet.
What screw driver size did you use to unscrew the back?
I'm not sure sorry. I have a screw driver set at work and just tried them all till I got the best fit.
@@Payne. Won't that strip the screw?
which chair are you using?
Desky Pro+ Ergonomic Chair. I have a review on my channel about it!
I have the Slim 5 14 and the Pro 7 AMD 4080, cant decided which one to keep xD
Lucky you! I guess it's power vs portability right? What sort of games do you like to play?
@@Payne. yeah kind of - i am leaning more towards the slim 5. The Pro 7 feels more like a non-pro device to me with all the plastic and even though I bought it for a very nice price and the performance is awesome, I still feel like it was too expensive.
While the Slim 5 has the fingerprint and glass touchpad which I kind of do not want to miss, using a macbook pro 14" for work right now that I will replace with the slim 14 i think.
I play a lot of different games from esports to highly demandig games like CP2077. However, since I a) dont have that much time to play right now and will most likely code with it anway and b) always have a GeforceNow Founders Sub for 4K Gaming when I need it, I feel like the slim 5 is the more reasonable choice.
If I had like a 3-4k budget I think I would get a ROG G14 4080/4090.
@@unamgege The Slim 5 is such a capable laptop and for all the reasons you listed above I think it's the better choice for you right now. Any games you're looking forward to?
@@Payne. WoW Classic SoD, finish CP2077 Phantom Liberty, finish a Divinity Coop run, finally play BG3, some CS2, some EFT, looking forward to the upcoming FF7 Remake Part 2 as well, cant list all of them - my pile of shame is unprecedented 😅
Thoughts on Asus X13?
Can't offer many thoughts, at almost $700 more with only 16GB of RAM in Australia it isn't worth it for me. 165hz is nice but unnecessary and I've never seen any benefits with Gsync.
this laptop is really tempting, but oh man, burn-in, I'll be keeping my next laptop for 6-7 years I imagine, and I can't have any of that
Totally fair.
@@Payne. then again, I’ll never truly be happy with an alternative like Mini-LED when I know OLED exists and I even enjoy it in my living room on the daily, I wish there was more specific data out burn-in on this exact display
My 2017 Alienware OLED 13in touchscreen doesn't have burn in. Typing this comment on it now.
Sept 2024 will mark 7 years with the laptop.
In short I wouldn't worry about burn in.
Alan wake 2 new benchmark unlocked
Shocked it runs to be honest.
2:50 Thanks Todd
It just works.
i have the 16'' one with RTX 4070 and 165Hz(2560x1600) and it runs great, my previous laptop was the Legion 5 with a 3060 and a Ryzen 5 5600H, this laptop is soooo smooooooth
It still surprises me how well it handles even the latest games.
Thank god it looks like those stickers can be removed easily. I hate it when manufacturers plaster their devices with hard to removing stickers. Those Intel EVO stickers are the worst of all.
alternative harry potter :) reviewing
I seem to get that a lot. Is it the glasses?
Can anyone link a website to buy this model please. So many
In Australia you can only buy it direct from Lenovo. If you're in the USA you may have other options via a retailer.
@@Payne. I’m in the uk. The 16” version is on sale at £1200 but I want the portability. Thanks though
@@SocialCamping Looks like the 14" is £1,424.99, I'd suggest just waiting for a sale, they happen pretty frequently.
@@Payne. Have you tested the oled version? 👍
@@SocialCampingThis is the OLED version.
I missed doctor Greene from ER Series, but now I see he is recording in YT 🤣
That's amazing, I showed my wife this comment and she lost it. Well done.
Im fcked with slim 7i. Lies of p stutters like hell unless i cap fps and turn on performance mode
I really struggled getting that game to run.
i wonder if i can play red dead 2 on this... is it possible... not much of a quality geek so i'd be happy to experience the game comfortably...
You can, some other TH-camrs have covered Red Dead running on it. Tech Guy Beau is one to watch from memory.
@@Payne. thank you for this very informative video, well-spoke and straight to the point. you may have tipped the scales for me. cheers.
what about starfield?
Starfield runs fine, it wasn't that well optimised when I made this video and didn't include official DLSS integration. Check out some of Tech Guy Beaus videos for Starfield.
Have you tried dialing down to 900p? Can't imagine it'll look that bad on a 14" screen, _and_ it scales natively from 1800p. OTOH it ought to give an insane FPS boost considering the VRAM constraints on the 4060.
I haven't tried, so far everything I've tried to run has been fine at native or 1080p.
I think it has thunderbolt
Unfortunately no Thunderbolt 4 or USB4. I don't need it but it's a requirement for some.
Got this and it's arriving in a week but for some reason there was no 32gb option in the US, the ram Is my only worry. Will this be ok in the future?
What sort of games do you play and what kind of applications are you running?
@@Payne. 3d modeling software like autodesk inventor and Im getting into video editing, just worried about having a bunch of chrometabs open along with these kinds of software. Games will probably not be an issue
@@samkim3304 Honestly, you might struggle a bit with those applications. Editing on 32GB makes quite a big difference.
@@Payne. It wasn't available :( Oh well I'll just close all my chrome tabs
80+ Celsius degenerated the mainboard faster. (gpu is on the mainboard) mainboards are designed for max 60C but if the gpu is beyond 72C, its affecting the lifespan of the mainboard which goes beyond 60C... at 80C it will certainly take some years.
Thank you for your input. I suspect I'll only be using this for 3 years max.
My boiling hot Alienware is 7 years old, still works fine.
Laptops last way longer than people care to admit..
@@Payne. I dont mean the direct failure of parts, the lifespan is reduced if the temperature is higher than 72C at permanent use (12 hours a day).
More heat is working on the electric parts on the mainboard, result in a small higher electrical resistance. The mainboard designer aim for max 60C for the mainboard.
Means, if the processors exceed 72C, the mainboard certainly will exceed its temperature design.
Most people wont have a problem with it, they wont use it for 10 years+ but if the parts are slightly not perfect, the laptop can die after guarantee time.
@@aykyi2668
My Alienware hits 90c, it was purchased in 2017.
Could You please run cyberpunk benchmark for me? 1920x1080 ultra settings dlss ON. I am interested in average benchmark fps results. Thank You in advance.
Sorry for the delay, I've been traveling. If this video doesn't help you let me know and I'll benchmark for you. th-cam.com/video/B2eI43eHDgI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PzUacNuLeaQEY7Pp
@@Payne. it’s fine :) thank You for the link, will definitely check it out. However I would like to get that average benchmark fps from cyberpunk using setting that I mentioned to compare them with Just Josh video where he provided results from that benchmark from G14 2024 and 2023, so wanted to compare them with legion 14:) cheers
@@Payne. will You be able to do such a test this weak :)?
Not available in India 😢
Ahh sorry to hear that. Is there another laptop you're looking at?
I got it and it arrived with issues. It's my third time purchasing from Lenovo and every laptop I've bought has always come with some form of issue:
My first Legion refused to recognize the GPU, it wouldn't even appear on the drivers' list until the BIOS would be reset. This occurred on every restart cycle
Then I got an IdeaPad which short-circuited two months in whenever I would rest my hand to the left of the trackpad.
The third was this, the Legion Silm 5 14": if I would browse for 10 minutes, the screen would just go black. Didn't happen in games (would have 2+ hour long gaming sessions), only while browsing on any browser (even with Hardware Acceleration turned off).
Needless to say, I'm not buying from Lenovo again. This laptop was phenomenal architecturally, but I've had too much bad luck with this brand. I was really devastated that the Legion 5 didn't escape the misfortune, because on paper it really is an amazing machine.
I'm sorry to hear that. I had a bad experience with the Legion 7i. I think sometimes it's just bad luck. I don't have any loyalty to a specific brand, they all have their faults but I think three strikes and you're out is a fair rule. What will you get instead?
The only bad about this laptop is the lack of Gsync :/
I've heard that a few times and it was a slight concern of mine before purchasing it but I honestly can't tell the difference.
Honestly I've never really been able to tell the difference between Gsync and Vsync, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
I am scared of screen burn, it's my only con.
There are options to dim parts of the screen when not in use like the task bar. I'll report back on screen burn if it happens.
I got it for 1070 dollars 16 gb variant , is this a good deal or should i spend 350 dollars more and go for ASU’s m16 4070 with i9
The ram upgrade part is bothering me 😢😢
I recommend 32GB of RAM if possible. It depends on what you're using it for. How much is the 32GB in the Legion Slim 14?
I am gonna mostly use it for gaming and some coding, thnx by d way for the reply@@Payne.
Got mine with 32gb and 1tb memory for 1301$ (that’s including10% tax in my state)
cringe intro bro but nice video mate
Haha just mixing it up and having a bit of fun. There's a bit of continuity between my videos if you watch the intro on the World of Horror one. Thanks for stopping by.
The only reason why I won't buy gaming laptops in 2023 is because for 1 the 14th gen integrated cpu gpu chips are going to be twice as powerful next year. and for 2 it's a total scam you can't get an 18" screen for less than $2k. I want a 14th gen 5050. 18" screen. And I know they won't make one because that would be "poor" performance. But, for a guy whose over 6 feet tall 14" wont do and hey, I read the black and white newspaper I am pretty sure I can make due with about a thousand bucks.
There's always something better around the corner when it comes to technology. This laptop suits me nicely at the moment. I travel with this laptop daily so the size and weight work really well but I do miss the extra screen real estate.
Do you know if the hdmi port or thunderbolt ports run off the integrated graphics the gpu or either through a mux switch. I am assuming its PEG gpu only. @@Payne.
I had ordered this laptop for sale $1060, but after using it I did not like the keyboard, it has good travel but felt musht with no snap, and 400 nits is not good enough for me, 500 nits minimum or a no go for classroom use with brughr screens. The speakers sucked too, got a slim 7, its leagues better.
Glad you found the right laptop for you. Now that I've used OLED I don't think I can go back but the screen glare and reflections aren't for everyone. I think for the price this is the better choice.
@@Payne. The oled is a huge plus, I really wanted to like the laptop, but I felt like the only thing it had going for it was the oled, but other than that it felt inferior almost every way, plastic keyboard deck, mushy keyboard, trackpad not as good, worse speakers, worse build quality, no RGB lighting on keyboard, dimmer screen, 120hz instead of 240hz, etc. It's a good gaming laptop, but an average everyday laptop.
Personally wouldnt want to play any games that are not locked to either 60 or 120 v synced since the laptop unfortunately doesn't do vrr. I guess your not sensitive to it, but i wouldn't say it's good enough when basically every gaming laptop has vrr. Also use nvidia control panel v sync and turn off in game sync
Definitely needs to be considered, some people are more sensitive to screen tearing and lower frame rates. I haven't had any issues with that luckily. Stuttering on my 7i drove me crazy though.
What laptop would you recommend?
@Payne. I know your a fan of lenovo. But unfortunately have had 2 really bad experiences so far with them. I have always been a fan of the Asus zephyrus g14 series. Especially the new 2024 model with the upgraded quality design. But it's more expensive
@@Payne. I feel like the terrible stuttering issue on lenovo pcs during games is found on most of their intel and nvidia machines with advanced Optimus and high resolution displays. I noticed that the frequency of stutters decreases if the games output resolution is reduced, and vastly improves when turning off the direct GPU mode (by using the igpu as the display adapter). Almost like their is a bandwidth limitation in the advanced Optimus direct GPU connection. It doesn't make any sense since you would expect the opposite. But that's just a theory and might be wrong...
I'm a fan of laptops doing what they are supposed to do. After my poor experience with the Legion Slim 7i I wasn't sure I was going to buy another to be honest. Asus makes some great stuff, I'm also interested in the new HP Omen 14".@@justinhalen2126