Thevenin's Theorem with Dependent Sources

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  • Network Theory: Thevenin's Theorem with Dependent Sources
    Topics discussed:
    1) Calculation of Thevenin's Equivalent Voltage Vth when a dependent source is present in the network.
    2) Calculation of Thevenin's Equivalent Impedance Rth when a dependent source is present in the network.
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  • @srivigneshcreations.9204
    @srivigneshcreations.9204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

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  • @abdulbahidmansuraliinamdar8126
    @abdulbahidmansuraliinamdar8126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Legends are watching this while going to gate exam 😁

    • @Shinchan-qr6qw
      @Shinchan-qr6qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😯 noted

    • @Vkeditzzzz-tj4ve
      @Vkeditzzzz-tj4ve 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are not legend...they are just chutiya

    • @singhpratapaditya
      @singhpratapaditya 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

    • @suryanshsingh6768
      @suryanshsingh6768 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bhai, unka GATE qualify hoga kya? Jo aisi legend baazi karte hei!?

    • @srabonspeaks
      @srabonspeaks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True 😅

  • @PunmasterSTP
    @PunmasterSTP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dependent sources? More like “Dynamite this is!” Thanks for sharing all of these amazing videos; they’re super helpful.

  • @qemmm23
    @qemmm23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Much appreciated Sir 😊
    3secs
    Eov=40v(I=0A,0.8I open)
    Isc :short current 40=6I+10(0.8I+Isc),I=Isc
    So 40=24Isc
    Isc=5/3A
    Rth=Eov/Isc=40/5/3=24 ohm

  • @rashidzaidel2276
    @rashidzaidel2276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    sir your video are really helping me. i got test tomorrow , its actually my final test for semester 3. I hope you wish me the best to do it and your videos really help me with my exams tomorrow.

    • @PunmasterSTP
      @PunmasterSTP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How’d your final go?

    • @kromokyptians5g51
      @kromokyptians5g51 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      he failed@@PunmasterSTP

    • @PunmasterSTP
      @PunmasterSTP 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kromokyptians5g51 Yeah, maybe, but I'll still hold out hope. It's just what I do. And sometimes the OP does reply to some of my similar comments!

  • @rockercas
    @rockercas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you, sire!

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Thank you!

  • @dr.shivanshushrivastava1990
    @dr.shivanshushrivastava1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice. In place of 1 V, a test source V_0 can also be put such that it is giving a current I_0. Then R_{th} can be found by finding V_0 / I_0.

    • @kristonwang6779
      @kristonwang6779 ปีที่แล้ว

      I put a current source of I0 = 1 there, but I did not get the same Rth. As I = 1, the current going through the 10ohm resistor would be 0.2; the current going through the 0.8I current source would be 0.8, which means the equavalent resistance of the current source would be 2ohm. Since Rth would be 10||2 + 6 = 23/3. Why is that the case?

    • @kristonwang6779
      @kristonwang6779 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can someone help me, I would really appreciate it

    • @lapisbrainprint9607
      @lapisbrainprint9607 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@kristonwang6779I tried but got different result myself. Current across 10Ω resistor was indeed 0.2A, thus the principle node has 2V potential voltage and voltage at the positive edge of the 1A source would be equal to 2+6*1=8V while the negative edge of the source would be 0V because it is connected to the ground and finally R_Th=(8-0)/1=8Ω, not 24Ω. I am not sure why that is...

    • @ramkarunakaran1265
      @ramkarunakaran1265 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lapisbrainprint9607 I got the same answer even with current source.
      Introduce 1A current -> I = -1A -> -0.8A (dependent source) -> solve nodal eq to get V_x = 18V ->. know that V_Th = V_x + V_(6ohm).
      V_(6ohm) = 6ohm*1A = 6V
      so V_Th = 18+6 = 24V thus R_Th = 24/1 = 24ohm

  • @moinshaikh1963
    @moinshaikh1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful thanks

  • @Avhdj
    @Avhdj ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing explanation

  • @berhanubaleh2367
    @berhanubaleh2367 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir when you calculate RTH, why don"t you use the dependent source zero (since I=0) that is open circuit

  • @jntkumar10
    @jntkumar10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wao great sir...

  • @SunnieGeorgeBaroi
    @SunnieGeorgeBaroi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I tried it by myself and it took me about 3 minutes and mentally done. I'm trying to formulate a new method that can be applied to dependent sources. Wish me luck

    • @shrikantjha1755
      @shrikantjha1755 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please share it with us😊

  • @amiteshkumar7593
    @amiteshkumar7593 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good question sir thanku

  • @prakharawasthi1419
    @prakharawasthi1419 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful content...thanx

  • @rit0838
    @rit0838 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another solution is to find norton current by short circuiting load, then finding Rth=Vth/In

  • @eeejobacademy509
    @eeejobacademy509 หลายเดือนก่อน

    usefull explanation thank you sir take love

  • @raviprakashmeghwanshi9365
    @raviprakashmeghwanshi9365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @indiajindabad1239
    @indiajindabad1239 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sare

  • @user-if7yk1wk3n
    @user-if7yk1wk3n 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good work bro

  • @bachaninenu123
    @bachaninenu123 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sujeet Sir is the best

  • @hey8884
    @hey8884 ปีที่แล้ว

    for rth cant we take o.o8i as o as it is dependent source

  • @Dulan_M_Herath
    @Dulan_M_Herath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    How did you remove that dependent source sir??

    • @aidanabregov1412
      @aidanabregov1412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's dependent on a part of the circuit that has an open node (Node A isn't connected to anything), though open nodes can have electrical potential difference (voltage), without the wires being connected, the current is zero, so the dependent current is 0 * 0.8, which is zero.
      Think about how if a wire is live, there's no current, but you don't want to touch the wire because it has an electrical potential (Voltage) that will send a current through you IF you complete the circuit by touching it with your hand. But if nothing ever connects, then nothing happens, no electrons move, no current in that part of the circuit.

    • @eminberkunal3919
      @eminberkunal3919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because he used a simple as fubbernuck circuit for this demonstration, just like colleague profs, but in reality, you will never encounter a circuit this simple if you are dealing with dependent source, and therefore equations become way harder to deal with and I think no prof. has time to show it(or talent to solve it).

    • @babajighule1964
      @babajighule1964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aidanabregov1412 Hello Sir, How do we know that this dependent source is depends on that open path only. Because this dependent source is connected to voltage source as well. Kindly guide me...

    • @aidanabregov1412
      @aidanabregov1412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@babajighule1964 1:22 gives the explanation. It's because there is no current if there's nothing grounding node A. There's infinite resistance at the open node, and if resistance is infinite, current, I, is zero. If the electrons have nowhere to go, then they can't "flow" or generate current.

  • @ardihakim8287
    @ardihakim8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video Sir, you make it easier to understand

  • @khalidismail902
    @khalidismail902 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @afraafra3204
    @afraafra3204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir how are you simplying?

  • @ryandanieldagoc2962
    @ryandanieldagoc2962 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do we assume that vx has the highest voltage?

  • @aidanabregov1412
    @aidanabregov1412 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would i(NORTON) be 1.67 Amps?

  • @mimanshusharma9061
    @mimanshusharma9061 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir 🙌

  • @Mith02
    @Mith02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sir आप इतना अच्छा पढ़ाते हो बस आप का lecture पूरा nahi है अगर आप का lecture पूरा मिल जाए तो student को लाखो रुपए gate exam के लिए दिल्ली खर्च नही करने पड़ेगे

    • @nesoacademy
      @nesoacademy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Koshish kar rahe hai subjects complete karne ki.

  • @Eureus22
    @Eureus22 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how could vx - 1v? i dont understand

  • @vishalgupta7522
    @vishalgupta7522 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    how 0.8 i is zero

  • @md.saifulislam5399
    @md.saifulislam5399 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice❤

  • @harshitha8088
    @harshitha8088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sir, actually we can put Is to be o.c and Vs as s. c na sir
    Then we get different Rth
    Will u pls explain sir

    • @divyanshsharma8401
      @divyanshsharma8401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope we will get the same ans by that method too, i did it myself.

  • @tamzidultahmid8548
    @tamzidultahmid8548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I didn't mistake then there maybe a calculation problem in equation 1. Maybe u are supposed to write 1.8I instead of 18I.

    • @DIABLO-hk9xu
      @DIABLO-hk9xu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i also though there was a mistake but , its 18 , he is correct, he just skipped a step , (i guess)

  • @atuhairedruscilla9960
    @atuhairedruscilla9960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why is the current source reduced to 0

  • @Aashikhbitual
    @Aashikhbitual ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir can you please explain again how did you get the value "I=0" ?While calculating the value of Vth

  • @emebig
    @emebig ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Isn’t 1.8 i1 instead of 18 i1?

  • @continnum_radhe-radhe
    @continnum_radhe-radhe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🔥🔥🔥

  • @BobS4AC
    @BobS4AC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greatest 👌 thank u

  • @VishnuVardhan-fv2ip
    @VishnuVardhan-fv2ip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir ,when V=0(short circuit) across element but we have v=ir which is i=0 (open circuit).can u explain it how???

    • @jassimjaved3309
      @jassimjaved3309 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      V=IR

    • @aidanabregov1412
      @aidanabregov1412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If V=0, current flows unimpeded across the wire with no build up of electrons making an electric potential difference (Voltage).
      But if I=0, then no current can flow across at all, so it is represented by an open circuit. You could also imagine a really really large resistor is there. Think about the electrons going across a wire as current. If current is zero, then the electrons cannot move any further, as if the wire was cut open.

    • @aniketchandra6492
      @aniketchandra6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      'i' isn't equal to zero but rather it'll be 0/0 (indeterminate form). When do you get v=0? When r=0. So when you'll apply v=i*r to find i then i=v/r which would be 0/0.

  • @ashutoshgarg5954
    @ashutoshgarg5954 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    when finding Vth, can anyone elaborate how the current dependent source is reduced to 0?

    • @chefcarry2902
      @chefcarry2902 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coz it was dependent to the I given in the first diagram which is O in an open loop

    • @estherkatentazimba4322
      @estherkatentazimba4322 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chefcarry2902 isnt the dependent current source dependent on the independent voltage sources and not just the current only?? if so thhen why equal it to zero??

    • @chefcarry2902
      @chefcarry2902 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@estherkatentazimba4322 The dependent Current source was specified as "0.8I" which means it is dependent to the I stated in the circuit which is in an open loop.

    • @estherkatentazimba4322
      @estherkatentazimba4322 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chefcarry2902 ohh 😯 now i see it

    • @duryodhandeep1634
      @duryodhandeep1634 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chefcarry2902 Do you know why I is not zero in case of finding Rth while it is zero in case of finding Vth although in both cases we find voltage or equivalent resistance across the terminals?

  • @aravind9054
    @aravind9054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏

  • @mihirbhatia6033
    @mihirbhatia6033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir how can u use kvl to find vth since it is not a closed loop

    • @farihminan2512
      @farihminan2512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you referring to an open circuit in the loop?

    • @homijbhabha8860
      @homijbhabha8860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      just assume it is a closed loop and use KVL

  • @ultralaggerREV1
    @ultralaggerREV1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it valid to consider a dependent current source as an open circuit?
    My engineering professor said this isn’t possible

    • @EEShyama
      @EEShyama ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The value of the dependent source is 0.8i. since I is equal to zero hence the value of the source becomes zero

    • @rosebluerobin
      @rosebluerobin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

  • @syedismail1849
    @syedismail1849 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @aniketchandra6492
    @aniketchandra6492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Why can't we make the dependent current source's value equal to 0 while finding Rth. It'll make Rth=16 Ohm. The current source's value must be zero because it'll be dependent on 'I' for all time and 'I' will be zero like it was while finding Vth.

  • @bhaskarjyotidutta3172
    @bhaskarjyotidutta3172 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vx=1/4 V, hence I= 1/8A,u did a little calculation mistake at 6:52

    • @AleG-wd1cp
      @AleG-wd1cp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I made the same mistake as you, but it's actually correct as you need to distribute 3 to both terms when multiplying the fraction

  • @Nikhillbt
    @Nikhillbt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thodi difficult circuits solve kro

    • @nesoacademy
      @nesoacademy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Introductory lectures me nahi kar sakte, sabko nahi aayega samajh. Baad me GATE ke questions solve hue hai.

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      @gouravaramrupesh3029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @arinsharma9166
    @arinsharma9166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bhai mushkil question liya karo thoda .......... aise sirf yehi question hoga ........baki nahi

  • @queremq
    @queremq ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a terrible selection of example where I is 0