Well said! Thank you. My mother used to tell me, ‘the world has enough men. The world has enough rough, tough, loud, and pushy. You be the woman you are. Be soft, understanding, mild and gentle.’ As I’ve grown, I see how right she was. Women have an amazing gift for nurturing, comforting and inspiring. We are not weakened by being who and what we are. Let men be men. Let women be women. Seems like common sense in years past, controversial and demonized by media today.
This has worked for the past 7.2M years of human existence and the past 5.5K years of human civilization, but no, we had it wrong the whole time, it’s only now in the past 10-12 years that we actually figured it out.
I hate modern heroines like you do, but men can be soft and gentle and nurturing as well. holliwood’s depicition of men is sexist, but also thinking that you HAVE to fit in a stereotype kinda is. More muscular and “manly” women do exist, the problem with hollywood is that they are trying wayyy too hard, and they totally missed the point.
Not only aren't men allowed to be MEN, but the "women" in these shows and films are written to be more like men. Actress Evangeline Lilly came out and said as much herself, which MANY rightfully applauded her for. Haha
@JosephCoenMason No wonder her presence in Ant-Man 3 was so undercut... Women of that degree of success start thinking for themselves and it can hurt their prospects.
I get so tired of Hollywood turning all women into men. This is a problem with a lot of video games, too. It gets to the point where the men and women are the same character and having the choice between them in a game (or having them as a lead in a movie) adds nothing to the experience.
I remember when it was more heavily acknowledge. Hell I missed how in character creations They used to give different advantages and disadvantages for your gender That made sense And just got the creative blood inside of me Giddy On how i'm going to create my avatar. Now it barely feels like there's any distinction That just makes me sad
You see it quite a lot in modern media with everything it talks like on "The Lion King" remake, the scene were Simba rescued Nala was removed & there was a scene added with all the Lioness. In Many games female character are bossy, bitchy & in a good chunk drawn more androgynous or masculine looking. It's sad because the actress they are based on are pretty, but a director from a game said that the actress looks too weak so the characters in game are made more masculine. They indirectly said that feminity is weakness. I literally saw many elegant or pretty female playable characters in Asian games. Many Western games are focused on an agenda to school players instead of making entertainment.
This video is wrong-headed, and you people are merely "talking among yourselves". None of what you say or think matters. You know what matters? 1. Money, and 2. Public Relations. Sounds cynical? That's because IT IS REALITY. Hollywood is, first and foremost, A BUSINESS. The producers want to maximize profits while minimizing Public Relations problems (AKA "getting canceled on social media"). Therefore, they are trying to "please the woke mob". Can you blame them? For every woman who wants to see more Feminine representation, there is another woman who hates it. If ALL of the female moviegoers united and told Hollywood what they want, with ONE VOICE and TONS OF THEATER TICKET PURCHASES to the desired movies... then Hollywood would "pivot" to that. As a Woke Leftist myself, I suggest you all stop thinking with your Extreme Leftist brains, and think like a for-profit entertainment industry BUSINESS.
You know a lot of gay men are commited or married in a monogamous relationship right? I have a ton of gay friends who have been in the same relationship for years or even decades and are very committed and faithful. I don’t like these heroines either ,because of how they treat men as sex objects or ridicule them, it’s trying to be woke while is actually sexist, but to imply gay men, if not men in general, as mostly promiscuous, is equally sexist towards men, just with a different flavor. It’s ironic and sad to see how both radical feminists (aka toxic feminism), and right wingers are putting men in a tight box they have to conform to.
Ellen Ripley in Alien and Aliens is really the gold standard (along with Sarah Connor of Terminator and T2) of strong, commanding female characters. Neither wants to do a job that’s so risky, but when they must they must. I think any person can connect with that premise. Neither of them are complete super soldiers, they feel pain, get hurt, feel fear, but ultimately their will to go on, to push forward, to survive makes them incredibly powerful. I just don’t believe women want to be men. Other than a few conveniences. 😂
Yeah in the case of ripley. Let's be real if dallas had been the one to survive and not her. He'd have Reacted in the same manner as she would especially at the prospect of Being asked to jump right back into the fray even as an adviser! Characters like her We're good because they acted like you know real people. It's like the writers were so used to tropes That they forgot how to make people. And that's why these characters don't come out so well. Because they have no character. They become the real life example Of that scene From that movie jack nicholson was from. Forgot the name that at the moment. But basically he was approached by a fan he's a writer in that movie Who asked him how did he make his female character so good. And he was being snarky but he told her that he wrote them by just imagining a man but without any of the responsibility. I know he was just being a bitter asshole. But it does give you a look into the mind of writers when they're writing their character That sometimes they will add attributes that may or may not connect with them Or make a lot of sense. But they do despite what he said have to have character That you could latch on to otherwise they're boring . And hilarious thing is you actually have stories about mary sues Like one punch man But what makes them good Is that the writer is skilled enough to write stories around the main character's Gary stu-ness Such as it frustrates Him because he has no real challenge. The despair he falls right back into, When he does finally find an enemy that he doesn't instantly get rid of And he vanquishes that enemy at last. Only to realize now he doesn't have a challenge any more. And one of the best arc of that story where the writer REVERSES the "underdog growing" By instead We're in as usual, it's the villain that beats the hero and the hero has to start rising and growing to be able to challenge them in the rematch. In this one's case, it's a minor villain who gets easily defeated by the Hero but not killed. So the arc focuses On that villain pretty much training and increasing his power. Rising up as he defeats stronger heroes at the stronger heroes. Just to get strong enough to rematch the main Protagonist. And when that fight that was being heavily foreshadowed finally happens. He didn't disappoint. It's a far cry from when the hero basically just knocked him out in one punch. Where now he's fighting a worthy opponent who actually forces Him to actually put effort into beating him. Basically you can compare it to the first rocky movie Where rocky was almost beating Apollo But that's because being The american champ He was greatly undestimating rocky. But it is shown without the training he went through Apollo even holding back with it beaten him Immediately. Because it also shows after a few rounds why he's the champ When you start taking rocky seriously. The point wasn't about rocky winning. It was about him proving A point to be taken seriously Which earned apollo's respect. It's something you've normally don't see much of from antagonists anymore. I think the last one I can think of would be Thanos And how he did show proper respect to the heroes who were able to challenge him even if they We're not able to beat him. In real life If your enemy doesn't respect you You have a decent shot of beating them And catching them off guard. If they do respect you. Congratulations you going to have a hard time now Because they're not going to underestimate you! Taking you so seriously You'll have to look out for any contingencies they might have put in place As much as you put down contingencies against them. But they wouldn't know how the rights the stuff like that😂
I can pinpoint the exact moment I stopped liking Elizabeth Banks: When she said in an interview that she always wanted to play interesting characters but she was cursed with the face of a leading lady 🙄
I don't know how to say this ..I'll just give a few hints. When people are REALLY married for a very long time, their skills, knowledge and understanding, wisdom all blends together to an amazing degree. It is a stronger bond than a 'team' ... it is the unity of two. Galadriel and Celeborn might be an example. Aragorn and Arwen. When one of them dies, the one left behind is lessened, perhaps, forever.. they can't get back the half of themselves that walked through the door that swings only one way. They have to work very hard to find anything like happiness and fulfillment, they lost their other self. They may actually die of grief. Men do not weaken women, together we are stronger than either of us were, apart. Modern Women in movies are NOT strong, they are just trying to be men and women, usually at the same time and they are forever weakened by trying to do both, at once. They aren't sexy and they aren't independent. (which is why I think the She hulk Character was both so promiscuous and extremely miserable.)
One of the admired icons of psychiatry said this: "Penis envy" is a stage regarding female psychosexual development, in which young girls experience anxiety upon the realization that they do not have a penis. I concur wholly with Sigmund Freud's hypothesis which has now been proven to be fact!
The irony of all this is that, despite every bit of criticism leveled at Morfydd Clark's Galadriel, she played a more feminine protagonist in "Saint Maud." Maud was nurturing yet flawed at the same time.
Narcissists can't grasp feelings they don't feel or understand so they avoid writing them. They are aware enough to know if they try it will ring false.
PS. What I don't understand about the Morfydd Clark version of Galadriel is what is one of the most noble and highest born elves still in Middle Earth is doing running around in Battle armor? That is why I won't ever watch that show. 1. She is magically powerful even before she received Nenya. 2, she can command strong Elven soldiers to do her bidding. Her Father was Finarfin. Her grandfather is King Finwe. Her Brother's grandson is high King Gil-galad. (so she is his aunt!) Why would such a highly born lady have to draw a sword, EVER? It would like seeing Queen Elizabeth I marching into battle. That is what her generals are for.
You make an interesting point. We live in an age where female characters have to be tough, bossy, angry and strong and already trained to perfection. And the classy, beautifully dressed, noble, proudly feminine lady type characters like Arwen are practically gone. It would be nice to see more ladies like that in 2023.
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholmeActual women don't behave in such a way neither is it in women's nature to act out caricatures of masculinity. I have nieces and yet they prefer the traditional feminine princesses of disney and often watch blatantly girlish shows. It's little more than forcing women, and by extension young girls, to reject their natural femininity for a caricature that's just never going to appeal to them nor does it come naturally to them.
it's weird. There's this premise that men were super empowered. Ok. Did empowerment mean eschewing intimacy or vulnerability? I don't think so. Being a dude I have a soft spot for the films, Die Hard and Die Hard 2. John McLane was a tough character. Seemed to love his wife. I'm sure there are bunches of Clint Eastwood films in which he shows human affection. There would be any number of classic films or tv shows in which rugged masculinity was accompanied by being vulnerable with a wife or trying to be a loving father. If it's not a problem for a dude to be human, it seems weird for it to be a problem for women.
It goes even farther than that. Your point is completely valid, but there's even more stupidity that you haven't gotten to. Most Hollywood films portray two kinds of protagonists: geeks and big dumb brutes. The big dumb brutes are almost always the heroes, and the geeks are the ones that enable them to win, but are ridiculed pretty flagrantly. Since the big dumb brute hero has only one way to solve problems, (Brute Smash!) their solution is to bash things. The basher who can take more hits and keep ticking wins. They're no skill, no brains, nothing... just who the screenwriter decides will win. Being both an intellectual and quite physical, since I have a hard sciences degree and worked as a software engineer and cinematographer for a long time, but also I hike, climb mountains, bike, and train (and teach) traditional martial arts, I've always detested the ridiculousness of Hollywood's bogus combat. No traditional martial art, even (and especially) the arts that were based on training specifically for the battlefield, rely on strength. It can't. You can't rely on strength in a pitched battle, it's both useless and exhausting. You wouldn't last, plus you will sooner or later run into someone stronger than you. And there's a little known fact that the basis of the most popular martial arts, including Wing-Chun and Okinawan Karate (before the Japanese acquired it under duress from the Okinawans), are based on a feminine art.
tch a lot of the critical drinker and my wife asked me if I knew of any youtuber that talked about similar subjects but throug the lense of a woman's view of the world. Happy to have found you for this. I can only encourage you to make more videos and make sure that you stay as true toyour own opinion as possible (the idea being to have a woman's opinion, not a copy of other critics opinions) thanks for sharing it and good luck for future videos !
About one year after Wonder Woman a number of critics confessed that they thought the movie was awful but only claimed to like it when it first came out because they were fearful for their jobs. My wife and I thought it was hilariously terrible. I burst out laughing twice at two serious scenes. The rest of the movie I cringed and became upset, especially when Diana, a Roman god, replaced the cross on the church building.
@@JimDeferio the first Wonder Woman movie is great. I have problems with the casting of Ares and how similar it is to Captain America First Avenger. I did wish that the movie used more from Greek mythology. Wonder Woman has fought mythological creatures in the comics. The second movie I really hated.
@@biguy617 I remember the first Avengers movie that by the end every one of the Avengers were dirtied and bloody from the battles. But in WW she didn't even have a hair out of place, lol. But you can like what you want. My brother-in-law and his daughter loved the WW movie. I like Godzilla vs. Kong even though it's a stupid popcorn movie. I saw the first Godzilla movie back in the late 1950's when I was a young kid so that's probably why...
what I find interesting is you'll find time and again that the WOKE crowd will argue that WOKISM is intelligent and popular, despite what we see in every metric, but a constant stream of memes on Facebook about WOKE being the 'smart' choice and anyone who disagrees is unintelligent and one of the 'isms'
Kudos to you on a very insightful and well thought out expose of how women are portrayed by modern Hollyweird.😊 But I find it curious that in your assessment of what is the "timeless" beauty standard, you highlighted Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly & Marilyn Monroe but left out the timeless beauty of women like: Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horne, Eartha Kitt, Rita Moreno, Nancy Kwan or Pam Grier. Not trying to start something negative. Just sharing my observation...🤔
(Subscribed) The culture is awash in "feminist" misogyny. One thing I noticed is how you can see it in the way women dress. It seems to be mostly three categories: business, casual and sexy. I've noticed a growing passion among women for vintage dresses, and the retro look starts in the 50s and goes back. This was when one category of women's outfits dominated: feminine. Feminine is not strongly sexy, nor is it business, and it is casual enough to be comfortable, but still feminine. I think women are pining for an outlet to be feminine without being criticized, so retro is the way to go. I'm all in on it. It kinda makes me woozy.
Femininity means not sexualized, objectifying, beauty, their bodies, or even their sexuality. Femininity really means females/woman can do and be anything they want to be made them strong, beautiful, independent, badass, smart, and powerful, does not always about man cause we live man's world and their masculinity, femininity shows woman of freedom, compassion, encouragement, and emotions to make little girls to become whatever they are. Hollywood need to respect femininity cause woman can to better and do anything like a man.
Yes, you are the only one. I have always hated, despised really, all that false pretense horseshit. It's the same kind of Idolshit that should just be done away with. I want a girl who can literally just fucking end me. I want a woman who can pick me up, and heft me over her head. I want Shadow of the Colossus.
This an issue that affects so much modern media. It seems like we've collectively decided that gender is or should be incidental. However, this is all manufactured. We are unusually developed primates. If you look at groups of primates in the wild, males and females have different objectives and priorities. They achieve their goals by different means. This used to be the case in film and television fiction. Now many female characters could be re-cast as male and their behaviour wouldn't necessarily look off. Interestingly the same isn't true the opposite way, as it's become socially acceptable for females to dress in overtly male attire - jeans and T-shirt and Doc Marten boots for example, it's still seen as fringe for a male to go around in high-heels, a dress and make-up. Likewise we're not seeing men in film and television acting in a feminine way so much. It's almost like there's an agenda for females to hijack masculinity, while quietly acknowledging that the differences between males and females does exist, but that we don't like it and we want to change it.
It was never collectively decided, neither was the average person given a choice in the matter. This was forced on to society, like so much of what we see today. It started slowly by introducing the old stoic female characters from previous decades of media (film/tv/games) then slowly devolved to its logical conclusion of just outright attacking femininity. The traditional feminine character is mocked, and yet we all know that these female characters pretending or trying to be men, just cannot fulfill that role, we all instinctually know it's farfetched to see a woman try so hard to act as a man, yet all she ends up doing is looking like a child acting out a ridiculous caricature of masculinity. When guy's/men think of masculinity, we often see the warrior who keeps his emotions under control, out of a sense of duty for kin and country, not for fame or glory, because we naturally have the instinct to be the ones who'll give up our lives to protect who and what matters to us. Women have a hard time grasping exactly how that looks like to a man, how legitimate masculinity is seen by men and is enacted by men. Something that they simply end up looking ridiculous by trying to fill a role they were never meant to be in. No one wants to see these cartoonish caricatures of women and masculinity, which the latter today is represented by guys who are very emotional, simply cannot stop talking, or are almost useless to the point of having self deprecation. (seriously, take your pick of any movie or show from the past 3-7, and further years, and notice how there are more scenes with almost non-stop dialogue amongst the male characters)
In these stories the lead characters are always dealing with gender based discrimination. There can be no other possible explanation for their situation, whatever it is. So there can be no lack of talent on their part and they can’t be intimidated. Moreover, they have no distractions in their lives, like family.
Being (growing up) a liberal young man who wanted greater social justice but also preservation of and respect for traditional social roles, I was disgusted by the overblown "girl power" craze of the 1990s and later in popular culture. I didn't think the trend was good for society, because it only succeeded in causing "strong" women to be resented and even hated both by men and by "weak" women who were made to feel socially and morally inferior by comparison. Oddly enough, though, to the extent that I tolerated feminist heroes, I actually preferred it when they were tomboys rather than classically feminine. In my view, these heroines were the "good" ones because they recognized that men were the only "true" physical heroes and needed to be closely emulated by women who wanted to try to co-opt their niche. The "girly-girl" feminists, on the other hand, really ticked me off, and to some extent still do, because they came across as arrogant, supremacist showoffs: "We're better at being men than you AND better at being women than you." Since those days, I've become even more tolerant and developed a "live-and-let-live" attitude. So now my outlook is pretty much "Oh, hell, do whatever you want."
Thank you for this video! At least someone gets it. Most men are not interested in women who want to be men, they are looking for old fashion ideals in the women they are searching for. It's a shame that women today don't get this. "why aren't aren't there any good men anymore" women ask? Why aren't there any good women anymore? It's sad when the trans community are producing more feminine women than women themselves! Modern women need to reject Hollywood strong women stereotypes and go back to a time when women were women.
women being strong and intelligently getting what they want even thru the social, cultural, and biological disadvantages they have are like some of the best for me. But I still do appreciate masculine women and they are interesting characters
Thing is, no one is legitimately appealed to that. That had to be forced on to society to accept women in masculine roles. 50 years ago, pretty much every person you'd come across would have laughed at the notion of trying to portray a woman as masculine. Especially/Specifically because it's not natural to women. Hell go outside of the west and you'll find that most non-western countries and their people's see it as ridiculous to try and force female characters to essentially act like men. In the west we've had "equality" beaten so much down our throats that it's gone so far as to deny the realities of there being differences between men and women which goes beyond simple physical strength, but also mentality. Even when I was a child I thought it was ridiculous whenever a show would push out these tomboy female characters. Pretty much the only reason this exists is that people were forced to accept this facade of women trying to be men, solely on the basis of "equality", reality be damned if women in real life just never show any signs of even being capable of harboring such characteristics.
@@jacobj3933No. Some people actually like tomboys and they've existed a lot longer than 50 years ago. A quick look at Wikipedia's List of Tomboys in fiction proves you're wrong. Also, throughout history there have been women who had to take on what we would consider "masculine" roles for the sake of their families. Women coal miners, women blacksmiths, historical business you name it. Saying that being a tomboy isn't natural is an insult to these women.
it might be a knee-jerk reaction to the other kind of objectification on media from the previous decades where the female characters catered mostly to the male gaze.
That would be buyable if these same people didn't keep promoting and embracing sexual immorality in their movies/shows, and their personal lives. They only want the dysfunction on THEIR terms.
Wonderfully-texted vides... well done. Femminity as it is and should be... no perversion into fake males... Great video! Keep up this fantastic work of yours! Greetings from Sicily, Italy!
No, I don't need female heroes! But I do love Michael Jackson and Freddy Mercury. Can't say I like that female with an Oedipus complex President Macron from France!
What we are now seeing in this area is the chickens coming home to roost. The groundwork for this strong wahmen mentality has been laid by sitcoms for the past 60 years. The anti-male vitriol is now hitting new heights in the present time; but the contempt for straight men has always been there. The formula has always been to exalt a strong woman by surrounding her with bumbling fool men. It's very strange that leftists hate masculinity in men, but encourage it in women. And yes, it seems that they hate femininity in anybody except for in queer men. When did the inmates take over the asylum?
It’s a mixture of terrible writing, and terrible people. The strike really hit Disney hard as it isn’t just Star Wars. Marvel and the remakes have been mid…..White men, will cry woke every single time they aren’t the center of the universe it’s been a problem since MAGA came on the scene. They love to use woke and DEI as dog whistles for what they really want to say. These damn algorithms seem to give them the loudest voice. As we see with this post. Seriously what is this page? Star Wars fans though have always been terrible in my opinion. Since the prequels there is one constant, the superfans will nitpick at something.
Yeah but some can be, there are nothing but girl bosses in fiction for the "modern audiences". Also, sexy and vulgar are different from each other. She-hulk is vulgar not sexy.
Totally agree, I thought it was just me that felt it was off to say that. I was almost agreeing with her until she only described female characters being that. She also completely lost me when she talked about making a character aroace is a writing flaw. Being aroace myself, I feel that romance shouldn't get in the way of a plot that doesn't need it. That in itself is a writing flaw, especially when it's only used when they can't think of good character development.
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme If current statistics are to be anything to go by in regards to depression amongst western women, the current life style you're promoting, behavior included, is far from offering a fulfilling life to any women. This is just cope.
"Bro, not every woman has to be graceful, modest, or feminine." And nobody asked for every female character in media to be that way. We don't ask for Ellen Ripley to be made overly feminine and graceful, nobody was complaining about her being a badass. The question is: Why did Hollywood feel the need to make the likes of Galadriel LOOSE their femininity? Why does every "powerful" female character have to loose their femininity? Why can't the badasses and the graceful feminine characters share the spotlight?
Dude, they remove everything that makes women WOMEN, by copying and pasting traits of MEN in them, and having the "male" characters be more effeminate. XD
Well said! Thank you. My mother used to tell me, ‘the world has enough men. The world has enough rough, tough, loud, and pushy. You be the woman you are. Be soft, understanding, mild and gentle.’ As I’ve grown, I see how right she was. Women have an amazing gift for nurturing, comforting and inspiring. We are not weakened by being who and what we are. Let men be men. Let women be women. Seems like common sense in years past, controversial and demonized by media today.
This has worked for the past 7.2M years of human existence and the past 5.5K years of human civilization, but no, we had it wrong the whole time, it’s only now in the past 10-12 years that we actually figured it out.
I hate modern heroines like you do, but men can be soft and gentle and nurturing as well. holliwood’s depicition of men is sexist, but also thinking that you HAVE to fit in a stereotype kinda is.
More muscular and “manly” women do exist, the problem with hollywood is that they are trying wayyy too hard, and they totally missed the point.
Not only aren't men allowed to be MEN, but the "women" in these shows and films are written to be more like men. Actress Evangeline Lilly came out and said as much herself, which MANY rightfully applauded her for. Haha
@JosephCoenMason
No wonder her presence in Ant-Man 3 was so undercut... Women of that degree of success start thinking for themselves and it can hurt their prospects.
Men are told to be gentle and soft and women are told to be rough and dominant, somethings off.
I get so tired of Hollywood turning all women into men. This is a problem with a lot of video games, too. It gets to the point where the men and women are the same character and having the choice between them in a game (or having them as a lead in a movie) adds nothing to the experience.
I remember when it was more heavily acknowledge. Hell I missed how in character creations They used to give different advantages and disadvantages for your gender That made sense And just got the creative blood inside of me Giddy On how i'm going to create my avatar. Now it barely feels like there's any distinction That just makes me sad
@ShahYT.Official Big fan of the Drinker and saw that vid long before my reply to this OP
You see it quite a lot in modern media with everything it talks like on "The Lion King" remake, the scene were Simba rescued Nala was removed & there was a scene added with all the Lioness.
In Many games female character are bossy, bitchy & in a good chunk drawn more androgynous or masculine looking. It's sad because the actress they are based on are pretty, but a director from a game said that the actress looks too weak so the characters in game are made more masculine. They indirectly said that feminity is weakness.
I literally saw many elegant or pretty female playable characters in Asian games. Many Western games are focused on an agenda to school players instead of making entertainment.
MARY SUE NO
This video is wrong-headed, and you people are merely "talking among yourselves". None of what you say or think matters. You know what matters? 1. Money, and 2. Public Relations. Sounds cynical? That's because IT IS REALITY.
Hollywood is, first and foremost, A BUSINESS. The producers want to maximize profits while minimizing Public Relations problems (AKA "getting canceled on social media").
Therefore, they are trying to "please the woke mob". Can you blame them? For every woman who wants to see more Feminine representation, there is another woman who hates it.
If ALL of the female moviegoers united and told Hollywood what they want, with ONE VOICE and TONS OF THEATER TICKET PURCHASES to the desired movies... then Hollywood would "pivot" to that.
As a Woke Leftist myself, I suggest you all stop thinking with your Extreme Leftist brains, and think like a for-profit entertainment industry BUSINESS.
This is so beautifully written. Tells the story of women and these Hollywood "women" so well. Covers the topic so well. Thank you Nerd Word
indeed they write women like they are gay men. Sex is casual if it exists. Emotional ranges skew towards hypermasculine performance style.
You know a lot of gay men are commited or married in a monogamous relationship right? I have a ton of gay friends who have been in the same relationship for years or even decades and are very committed and faithful.
I don’t like these heroines either ,because of how they treat men as sex objects or ridicule them, it’s trying to be woke while is actually sexist, but to imply gay men, if not men in general, as mostly promiscuous, is equally sexist towards men, just with a different flavor.
It’s ironic and sad to see how both radical feminists (aka toxic feminism), and right wingers are putting men in a tight box they have to conform to.
Ellen Ripley in Alien and Aliens is really the gold standard (along with Sarah Connor of Terminator and T2) of strong, commanding female characters. Neither wants to do a job that’s so risky, but when they must they must. I think any person can connect with that premise. Neither of them are complete super soldiers, they feel pain, get hurt, feel fear, but ultimately their will to go on, to push forward, to survive makes them incredibly powerful.
I just don’t believe women want to be men. Other than a few conveniences. 😂
Yeah in the case of ripley. Let's be real if dallas had been the one to survive and not her. He'd have Reacted in the same manner as she would especially at the prospect of Being asked to jump right back into the fray even as an adviser! Characters like her We're good because they acted like you know real people. It's like the writers were so used to tropes That they forgot how to make people. And that's why these characters don't come out so well. Because they have no character.
They become the real life example Of that scene From that movie jack nicholson was from. Forgot the name that at the moment. But basically he was approached by a fan he's a writer in that movie Who asked him how did he make his female character so good. And he was being snarky but he told her that he wrote them by just imagining a man but without any of the responsibility. I know he was just being a bitter asshole. But it does give you a look into the mind of writers when they're writing their character That sometimes they will add attributes that may or may not connect with them Or make a lot of sense. But they do despite what he said have to have character That you could latch on to otherwise they're boring .
And hilarious thing is you actually have stories about mary sues Like one punch man But what makes them good Is that the writer is skilled enough to write stories around the main character's Gary stu-ness Such as it frustrates Him because he has no real challenge. The despair he falls right back into, When he does finally find an enemy that he doesn't instantly get rid of And he vanquishes that enemy at last. Only to realize now he doesn't have a challenge any more. And one of the best arc of that story where the writer REVERSES the "underdog growing" By instead We're in as usual, it's the villain that beats the hero and the hero has to start rising and growing to be able to challenge them in the rematch. In this one's case, it's a minor villain who gets easily defeated by the Hero but not killed. So the arc focuses On that villain pretty much training and increasing his power. Rising up as he defeats stronger heroes at the stronger heroes. Just to get strong enough to rematch the main Protagonist. And when that fight that was being heavily foreshadowed finally happens. He didn't disappoint. It's a far cry from when the hero basically just knocked him out in one punch. Where now he's fighting a worthy opponent who actually forces Him to actually put effort into beating him. Basically you can compare it to the first rocky movie Where rocky was almost beating Apollo But that's because being The american champ He was greatly undestimating rocky. But it is shown without the training he went through Apollo even holding back with it beaten him Immediately. Because it also shows after a few rounds why he's the champ When you start taking rocky seriously. The point wasn't about rocky winning. It was about him proving A point to be taken seriously Which earned apollo's respect. It's something you've normally don't see much of from antagonists anymore. I think the last one I can think of would be Thanos And how he did show proper respect to the heroes who were able to challenge him even if they We're not able to beat him. In real life If your enemy doesn't respect you You have a decent shot of beating them And catching them off guard. If they do respect you. Congratulations you going to have a hard time now Because they're not going to underestimate you! Taking you so seriously You'll have to look out for any contingencies they might have put in place As much as you put down contingencies against them.
But they wouldn't know how the rights the stuff like that😂
This is very very well thought out. It is the truth.
I agree so much with this moder girl boss ification of fem characters that makes them bland.
You said it all...Perfectly done. I miss real women in the world.
I can pinpoint the exact moment I stopped liking Elizabeth Banks: When she said in an interview that she always wanted to play interesting characters but she was cursed with the face of a leading lady 🙄
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I don't know how to say this ..I'll just give a few hints. When people are REALLY married for a very long time, their skills, knowledge and understanding, wisdom all blends together to an amazing degree. It is a stronger bond than a 'team' ... it is the unity of two. Galadriel and Celeborn might be an example. Aragorn and Arwen. When one of them dies, the one left behind is lessened, perhaps, forever.. they can't get back the half of themselves that walked through the door that swings only one way. They have to work very hard to find anything like happiness and fulfillment, they lost their other self. They may actually die of grief. Men do not weaken women, together we are stronger than either of us were, apart.
Modern Women in movies are NOT strong, they are just trying to be men and women, usually at the same time and they are forever weakened by trying to do both, at once. They aren't sexy and they aren't independent.
(which is why I think the She hulk Character was both so promiscuous and extremely miserable.)
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One of the admired icons of psychiatry said this: "Penis envy" is a stage regarding female psychosexual development, in which young girls experience anxiety upon the realization that they do not have a penis. I concur wholly with Sigmund Freud's hypothesis which has now been proven to be fact!
PINGAS envy!
Wow, you're really amazing you really hit the nail on the head.
The irony of all this is that, despite every bit of criticism leveled at Morfydd Clark's Galadriel, she played a more feminine protagonist in "Saint Maud." Maud was nurturing yet flawed at the same time.
Narcissists can't grasp feelings they don't feel or understand so they avoid writing them. They are aware enough to know if they try it will ring false.
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PS. What I don't understand about the Morfydd Clark version of Galadriel is what is one of the most noble and highest born elves still in Middle Earth is doing running around in Battle armor? That is why I won't ever watch that show. 1. She is magically powerful even before she received Nenya. 2, she can command strong Elven soldiers to do her bidding.
Her Father was Finarfin. Her grandfather is King Finwe. Her Brother's grandson is high King Gil-galad. (so she is his aunt!) Why would such a highly born lady have to draw a sword, EVER? It would like seeing Queen Elizabeth I marching into battle. That is what her generals are for.
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You make an interesting point. We live in an age where female characters have to be tough, bossy, angry and strong and already trained to perfection. And the classy, beautifully dressed, noble, proudly feminine lady type characters like Arwen are practically gone. It would be nice to see more ladies like that in 2023.
What's wrong with those
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholmeActual women don't behave in such a way neither is it in women's nature to act out caricatures of masculinity. I have nieces and yet they prefer the traditional feminine princesses of disney and often watch blatantly girlish shows. It's little more than forcing women, and by extension young girls, to reject their natural femininity for a caricature that's just never going to appeal to them nor does it come naturally to them.
it's weird. There's this premise that men were super empowered. Ok. Did empowerment mean eschewing intimacy or vulnerability? I don't think so. Being a dude I have a soft spot for the films, Die Hard and Die Hard 2. John McLane was a tough character. Seemed to love his wife. I'm sure there are bunches of Clint Eastwood films in which he shows human affection. There would be any number of classic films or tv shows in which rugged masculinity was accompanied by being vulnerable with a wife or trying to be a loving father. If it's not a problem for a dude to be human, it seems weird for it to be a problem for women.
It goes even farther than that. Your point is completely valid, but there's even more stupidity that you haven't gotten to.
Most Hollywood films portray two kinds of protagonists: geeks and big dumb brutes. The big dumb brutes are almost always the heroes, and the geeks are the ones that enable them to win, but are ridiculed pretty flagrantly.
Since the big dumb brute hero has only one way to solve problems, (Brute Smash!) their solution is to bash things. The basher who can take more hits and keep ticking wins.
They're no skill, no brains, nothing... just who the screenwriter decides will win.
Being both an intellectual and quite physical, since I have a hard sciences degree and worked as a software engineer and cinematographer for a long time, but also I hike, climb mountains, bike, and train (and teach) traditional martial arts, I've always detested the ridiculousness of Hollywood's bogus combat.
No traditional martial art, even (and especially) the arts that were based on training specifically for the battlefield, rely on strength. It can't. You can't rely on strength in a pitched battle, it's both useless and exhausting. You wouldn't last, plus you will sooner or later run into someone stronger than you.
And there's a little known fact that the basis of the most popular martial arts, including Wing-Chun and Okinawan Karate (before the Japanese acquired it under duress from the Okinawans), are based on a feminine art.
I find your videos fascinating!
tch a lot of the critical drinker and my wife asked me if I knew of any youtuber that talked about similar subjects but throug the lense of a woman's view of the world. Happy to have found you for this. I can only encourage you to make more videos and make sure that you stay as true toyour own opinion as possible (the idea being to have a woman's opinion, not a copy of other critics opinions) thanks for sharing it and good luck for future videos !
More critics liked Wonder Woman than Capt Marvel.
About one year after Wonder Woman a number of critics confessed that they thought the movie was awful but only claimed to like it when it first came out because they were fearful for their jobs.
My wife and I thought it was hilariously terrible. I burst out laughing twice at two serious scenes. The rest of the movie I cringed and became upset, especially when Diana, a Roman god, replaced the cross on the church building.
@@JimDeferio the first Wonder Woman movie is great. I have problems with the casting of Ares and how similar it is to Captain America First Avenger. I did wish that the movie used more from Greek mythology. Wonder Woman has fought mythological creatures in the comics. The second movie I really hated.
@@biguy617 I remember the first Avengers movie that by the end every one of the Avengers were dirtied and bloody from the battles. But in WW she didn't even have a hair out of place, lol.
But you can like what you want. My brother-in-law and his daughter loved the WW movie. I like Godzilla vs. Kong even though it's a stupid popcorn movie. I saw the first Godzilla movie back in the late 1950's when I was a young kid so that's probably why...
what I find interesting is you'll find time and again that the WOKE crowd will argue that WOKISM is intelligent and popular, despite what we see in every metric, but a constant stream of memes on Facebook about WOKE being the 'smart' choice and anyone who disagrees is unintelligent and one of the 'isms'
Kudos to you on a very insightful and well thought out expose of how women are portrayed by modern Hollyweird.😊
But I find it curious that in your assessment of what is the "timeless" beauty standard, you highlighted Audrey Hepburn, Grace Kelly & Marilyn Monroe but left out the timeless beauty of women like: Dorothy Dandridge, Lena Horne, Eartha Kitt, Rita Moreno, Nancy Kwan or Pam Grier.
Not trying to start something negative.
Just sharing my observation...🤔
(Subscribed) The culture is awash in "feminist" misogyny. One thing I noticed is how you can see it in the way women dress. It seems to be mostly three categories: business, casual and sexy. I've noticed a growing passion among women for vintage dresses, and the retro look starts in the 50s and goes back. This was when one category of women's outfits dominated: feminine. Feminine is not strongly sexy, nor is it business, and it is casual enough to be comfortable, but still feminine. I think women are pining for an outlet to be feminine without being criticized, so retro is the way to go. I'm all in on it. It kinda makes me woozy.
The old saying goes "Have some class woman!"
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Femininity means not sexualized, objectifying, beauty, their bodies, or even their sexuality. Femininity really means females/woman can do and be anything they want to be made them strong, beautiful, independent, badass, smart, and powerful, does not always about man cause we live man's world and their masculinity, femininity shows woman of freedom, compassion, encouragement, and emotions to make little girls to become whatever they are.
Hollywood need to respect femininity cause woman can to better and do anything like a man.
Yes, you are the only one. I have always hated, despised really, all that false pretense horseshit. It's the same kind of Idolshit that should just be done away with. I want a girl who can literally just fucking end me. I want a woman who can pick me up, and heft me over her head. I want Shadow of the Colossus.
This an issue that affects so much modern media. It seems like we've collectively decided that gender is or should be incidental. However, this is all manufactured. We are unusually developed primates. If you look at groups of primates in the wild, males and females have different objectives and priorities. They achieve their goals by different means. This used to be the case in film and television fiction. Now many female characters could be re-cast as male and their behaviour wouldn't necessarily look off. Interestingly the same isn't true the opposite way, as it's become socially acceptable for females to dress in overtly male attire - jeans and T-shirt and Doc Marten boots for example, it's still seen as fringe for a male to go around in high-heels, a dress and make-up. Likewise we're not seeing men in film and television acting in a feminine way so much. It's almost like there's an agenda for females to hijack masculinity, while quietly acknowledging that the differences between males and females does exist, but that we don't like it and we want to change it.
It was never collectively decided, neither was the average person given a choice in the matter. This was forced on to society, like so much of what we see today. It started slowly by introducing the old stoic female characters from previous decades of media (film/tv/games) then slowly devolved to its logical conclusion of just outright attacking femininity. The traditional feminine character is mocked, and yet we all know that these female characters pretending or trying to be men, just cannot fulfill that role, we all instinctually know it's farfetched to see a woman try so hard to act as a man, yet all she ends up doing is looking like a child acting out a ridiculous caricature of masculinity. When guy's/men think of masculinity, we often see the warrior who keeps his emotions under control, out of a sense of duty for kin and country, not for fame or glory, because we naturally have the instinct to be the ones who'll give up our lives to protect who and what matters to us. Women have a hard time grasping exactly how that looks like to a man, how legitimate masculinity is seen by men and is enacted by men. Something that they simply end up looking ridiculous by trying to fill a role they were never meant to be in. No one wants to see these cartoonish caricatures of women and masculinity, which the latter today is represented by guys who are very emotional, simply cannot stop talking, or are almost useless to the point of having self deprecation.
(seriously, take your pick of any movie or show from the past 3-7, and further years, and notice how there are more scenes with almost non-stop dialogue amongst the male characters)
In these stories the lead characters are always dealing with gender based discrimination. There can be no other possible explanation for their situation, whatever it is. So there can be no lack of talent on their part and they can’t be intimidated. Moreover, they have no distractions in their lives, like family.
Being (growing up) a liberal young man who wanted greater social justice but also preservation of and respect for traditional social roles, I was disgusted by the overblown "girl power" craze of the 1990s and later in popular culture. I didn't think the trend was good for society, because it only succeeded in causing "strong" women to be resented and even hated both by men and by "weak" women who were made to feel socially and morally inferior by comparison. Oddly enough, though, to the extent that I tolerated feminist heroes, I actually preferred it when they were tomboys rather than classically feminine. In my view, these heroines were the "good" ones because they recognized that men were the only "true" physical heroes and needed to be closely emulated by women who wanted to try to co-opt their niche. The "girly-girl" feminists, on the other hand, really ticked me off, and to some extent still do, because they came across as arrogant, supremacist showoffs: "We're better at being men than you AND better at being women than you."
Since those days, I've become even more tolerant and developed a "live-and-let-live" attitude. So now my outlook is pretty much "Oh, hell, do whatever you want."
Bro i loved enchanted!!! It was just so... Freaking good, and they didn't have to make the girly princess masculine to make a good film!
Women showed skin before
Thank you for this video! At least someone gets it. Most men are not interested in women who want to be men, they are looking for old fashion ideals in the women they are searching for. It's a shame that women today don't get this. "why aren't aren't there any good men anymore" women ask? Why aren't there any good women anymore? It's sad when the trans community are producing more feminine women than women themselves! Modern women need to reject Hollywood strong women stereotypes and go back to a time when women were women.
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Every point was correct….. every one.
Women having fun scare me
Men having fun scare me 😨
it's funny you say stoic and enraged. it shows that the writers have no idea what stoic and stoicism means.
im glad anime and asian dramas not woke yet , only the western media turned woke
women being strong and intelligently getting what they want even thru the social, cultural, and biological disadvantages they have are like some of the best for me. But I still do appreciate masculine women and they are interesting characters
Thing is, no one is legitimately appealed to that. That had to be forced on to society to accept women in masculine roles. 50 years ago, pretty much every person you'd come across would have laughed at the notion of trying to portray a woman as masculine. Especially/Specifically because it's not natural to women. Hell go outside of the west and you'll find that most non-western countries and their people's see it as ridiculous to try and force female characters to essentially act like men. In the west we've had "equality" beaten so much down our throats that it's gone so far as to deny the realities of there being differences between men and women which goes beyond simple physical strength, but also mentality. Even when I was a child I thought it was ridiculous whenever a show would push out these tomboy female characters. Pretty much the only reason this exists is that people were forced to accept this facade of women trying to be men, solely on the basis of "equality", reality be damned if women in real life just never show any signs of even being capable of harboring such characteristics.
@@jacobj3933No. Some people actually like tomboys and they've existed a lot longer than 50 years ago. A quick look at Wikipedia's List of Tomboys in fiction proves you're wrong. Also, throughout history there have been women who had to take on what we would consider "masculine" roles for the sake of their families. Women coal miners, women blacksmiths, historical business you name it.
Saying that being a tomboy isn't natural is an insult to these women.
@@vioveo7440They're exceptions, not the rule.
@@vioveo7440And circumstances are one thing because that breeds necessity, yet neither is it a natural impulse.
I feel like you have no idea what femininity really means...
Then please, explain what, according to you, it REALLY means.
And also, on what authority you make that claim.
explain it to us then
I for one welcome our strong independent female LGBT overlords.
it might be a knee-jerk reaction to the other kind of objectification on media from the previous decades where the female characters catered mostly to the male gaze.
That would be buyable if these same people didn't keep promoting and embracing sexual immorality in their movies/shows, and their personal lives. They only want the dysfunction on THEIR terms.
bring those back ''male gaze'' ones back, at least they were entertaining
Wonderfully-texted vides... well done. Femminity as it is and should be... no perversion into fake males... Great video! Keep up this fantastic work of yours! Greetings from Sicily, Italy!
Whats wrong with shouting, dancing, and showing skins?
“Captain marvel was better then Wonder Woman” yea ok🤣
I dunno about you, but I love it. I need my female heroes.
No one is saying you can’t have female heroes, just stop making them men.
"Female" heroes who behave and are written as men. XD
@@nerdword07 Exactly!! :D
No, I don't need female heroes! But I do love Michael Jackson and Freddy Mercury. Can't say I like that female with an Oedipus complex President Macron from France!
What we are now seeing in this area is the chickens coming home to roost. The groundwork for this strong wahmen mentality has been laid by sitcoms for the past 60 years. The anti-male vitriol is now hitting new heights in the present time; but the contempt for straight men has always been there. The formula has always been to exalt a strong woman by surrounding her with bumbling fool men.
It's very strange that leftists hate masculinity in men, but encourage it in women. And yes, it seems that they hate femininity in anybody except for in queer men. When did the inmates take over the asylum?
Man I miss when woman got depicted as they are instead of poorly done exaggerations. Those woman inspired generations of men and woman
It’s a mixture of terrible writing, and terrible people. The strike really hit Disney hard as it isn’t just Star Wars. Marvel and the remakes have been mid…..White men, will cry woke every single time they aren’t the center of the universe it’s been a problem since MAGA came on the scene. They love to use woke and DEI as dog whistles for what they really want to say. These damn algorithms seem to give them the loudest voice. As we see with this post. Seriously what is this page?
Star Wars fans though have always been terrible in my opinion. Since the prequels there is one constant, the superfans will nitpick at something.
Bro, not every woman has to be graceful, modest, or feminine. People act angry and sexy in the real world.
Yeah but some can be, there are nothing but girl bosses in fiction for the "modern audiences". Also, sexy and vulgar are different from each other. She-hulk is vulgar not sexy.
@AnilSingh-qb7iu there nothing wrong with vulgar
Totally agree, I thought it was just me that felt it was off to say that. I was almost agreeing with her until she only described female characters being that. She also completely lost me when she talked about making a character aroace is a writing flaw. Being aroace myself, I feel that romance shouldn't get in the way of a plot that doesn't need it. That in itself is a writing flaw, especially when it's only used when they can't think of good character development.
@@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme If current statistics are to be anything to go by in regards to depression amongst western women, the current life style you're promoting, behavior included, is far from offering a fulfilling life to any women. This is just cope.
"Bro, not every woman has to be graceful, modest, or feminine."
And nobody asked for every female character in media to be that way.
We don't ask for Ellen Ripley to be made overly feminine and graceful, nobody was complaining about her being a badass.
The question is: Why did Hollywood feel the need to make the likes of Galadriel LOOSE their femininity?
Why does every "powerful" female character have to loose their femininity?
Why can't the badasses and the graceful feminine characters share the spotlight?
I just want more tomboys
They dont hate femininity, they're all about it just look at marvel smh
Dude, they remove everything that makes women WOMEN, by copying and pasting traits of MEN in them, and having the "male" characters be more effeminate. XD
@@JosephCoenMason isn't it sexist to call some traits ''feminine''?
@@mavg. Nope! It IS, however, when they're TAKEN from WOMEN and replaced with MEN'S, and vice versa. Try again. 😉😂
You seriously need a reality check what makes men and women who they are. Smh
@@mavg. Got nothing to say? LOL
@nerdword07 >>> Great video...👍