Also I think the most annoying thing is how modern Feminists act like somehow the characters they are creating are somehow breaking the mold, like great female characters, actresses, directors, writers and the like never existed before they came along. Really shows how arrogant and full of themselves they are.
They remind me of the action heroes from the 80's who were all pretty much interchangeable. Yes it was generic but you never had people trying to convince you that this was the first time that you'd see a ripped dude spouting off snappy one liners while he guns down an impressive amount of bad guys to rescue his wife/daughter/love interest.
@@LoneWolf-rc4go Eh, not exactly a fair comparison. The Action Stars of the 80s had charisma and while they were strong and tough, were allowed to be vulnerable and even weak from time to time. Rocky cries and gets the shit beaten out of him, Rambo is an emotionally broken man due to PTSD, T-800 learns humanity and admits the only reason he isn't crying is cause he literally can't, even Arnold in Commando is shown to be a nice guy and also capable of being hurt or outplayed. Female heroes now, nope, can't ever be wrong or weak.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 My point was that they didn't feel the need to try to convince us that they were breaking new ground every time they churned out one of these action flicks. The current zeitgeist in Hollywood is that the idea of the 'strong female protagonist' has never been done before and that every time there's a new progressive first it needs to be treated like some massive event that was somehow 'needed' by the movie going public.
Leia, in the original Star Wars trilogy, was a core member of the Luke - Leia - Han team. She was incredibly brave, and beautifully feminine, at the same time.
The Prequels also gave us Padme, Luke & Leia's mother, who was not only the true Queen of Naboo and thus a politician, but also a skilled fighter and markswoman who created an elaborate ruse to keep her true identity secret in The Phantom Menace, before becoming the Senator for Naboo in Attack of the Clones.
People always talk about the scene of Leia chained up in a skimpy outfit to try to say she wasn't a capable woman but people somehow forget she later on *killed* the guy who put her in that outfit.
Agreed, and George Lucas was very smart, to write the character in such a way, that she could be both capable, and know when to trust men to take the lead. That didn't make Leia weak, just more perceptive...and Carrie Fisher did great with her portrayal. Unfortunately, Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson ruined Leia in the sequels.
I liked Black Widow, despite its flaw of being a prequel, but Captain Marvel killed everything for me. I hate to say this because a movie should be totally separate from the actors' real life personalities, but I can't stand the militant feminist Larson. Her personality comes right to the surface in all her smug passive aggressive performances.
@@white-dragon4424 I've never read the comic versions of Captain Marvel but I heard she was set up to be a Super Karen with questionable moral compass. But is she different than the actor's iteration of Captain Marvel? If then, how different are the two?
That scene was bizarr... putting all the women from the franchise into one shot who otherwise had nothing to do with each other. And also there is Spiderman cowering on the ground xD
When i was a kid in Nigeria, i remember watching great cartoons and shows like Juniper Lee, As told by Ginger, Hey Arnold, Legally Blonde, the Clone Wars cartoon, Avatar: Last Airbender etc. Western media had great diverse and female characters and no toxic identity politics. I really can't understand why they made this strange turn to toxic identity politics and unprofitability.
The Feminist Movement took hold here in the 1970s, and those women began teaching in the universities. For 40+ years they spewed their ideologies of how men were awful and misogynic. 'Thelma & Louise' was not a "masterpiece" but a harbinger. Then in the 1990s all of these sexual harassment lawsuits began to happen against men in power: corporate business, politics, military, academia, science, etc. Cleared spaces that women began demanding that they fill those spaces, qualified or not. Bill Clinton survived the whole thing because he was at their beckoning. Fast forward to 2015-2017, there is #MeToo Movement. You didn't have to do anything. If they assumed you 'said' or 'thought' anything your life was doxed on the internet and throughout social media and ruined. As the post above said, for people like Kathleen Kennedy, Kamala Harris, Alexandria Acacia-Cortez, Brie Larsen, Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy. Its not about 'profit', 'success', or ones 'abilities'. Those are all patriarchic standards (their words). Its all about 'the message', 'the agenda', 'setting the example', and 'creating role models'. THAT'S What Has Happened.
ahh my brother😁 i dont even know sef before cartoons where much better at being diverse and feminist I think its cause story came first and was used as a vessel for diversity and inclusivity, but now its about who is the most politically correct, diversity comes first and you fill in the gaps with the scraps of a story
Cultural Marxism. In order to secure an egalitarian society, media conglomerates have resorted to identity politicking; since all attempts of economic reform fail, due to socialism’s inherent, massive, flaws.
Feminism in the '80s started rejecting the idea of 'transcendence' (that a character has to grow into something more than they started) as a 'male virtue.' That's why we have had this wearying string of female heroes who only need to realize how awesome they already are...
That really was the template for things to come: find a popular pre-established IP, substitute all male significant characters by female characters, victim blame the fanbase when they inevitably cry out in outrage. Rinse, Repeat. Forever.
The funny thing about Kate Kane, is that she differentiated so much from her comic book counterpart, that even her animated counterpart was more accurate, she wasn't trying to be the better version of Batman, she had her own adventures, her own conflicts, and her very own story.
In the clip here, I realized that the rings of power show directly contradicts a line from The Lord of the Rings. Galadriel, when she is being tempted, says "treacherous as the sea" and in the rings of power show they say "the sea is always right." Somebody is wrong. You can't have the sea being treacherous and also being right.
The entire team of showrunners of Rings of Woke are wrong. They fired the expert advising on Tolkien's lores early is what I heard so they clearly never intended to respect the source material, as it's a direct takeover of the rights of filming.
Feminism basically turned female characters from three dimensional individuals who could have genuine flaws as well as strengths, to essentially cardboard cutouts with zero personality outside of "Strong, Independent and Woman." Honestly, it's more insulting if you think about it
Cardboard cutouts have more personality than these woke female characters could ever have. They might as well have negative personality at this point, if anger and rage are their only traits. At least with cardboard cutouts you can insert your own headcanons.
Ray front star wars, for example. Throughout six movies, novels, comic books, and people who have the ability to need training, except Ray, she can do everything great.
Could you please make a video about how women like masculine male characters ? (Unlike what feminists would have people think) Because on youtube all i know is women calling them toxic, men praising feminine characters or women praising masculine men (but not fictional men, as far as i've seen)
… just waiting for the industry to collapse from they weight of its own foolish agendas. Small, independent film makes will then be free to produce content again, on a sensible budget, with a genuine balanced cast to rise phoenix-like, and give us a choice of something decent to watch. "The bigger they, the harder they fall", so I would not be surprised to see Disney being the first to collapse.
Dont worry everyone I have a movie that will surely be a new edition to superhero movies And I hope to make it in the future Rn it's just creating the story,heroes etc
I love your commentary in the videos I've watched. You are so straightforward, so on point, and so clear about not being hateful, but rather loving the power of entertainment so much, you are alongside us who just want balance again. Even I have said, around 2016 and onwards, things started downsloping. I think you covered this before, but if there's anything that bothers me the most, it's the female villain conundrum. I stand by the preference that most female-led Action-centric content should have the protag woman take on an antag woman who mostly deploys henchwomen. No mind warping (like Antonia Dreykov had which effed up her vendetta potential against Natasha, especially with Olga Kurylenko in such a role against Scarlett), no "was a villain, now a hero" (like with Nakia who's a considerable Black Panther foe. Melina Vostokoff who's practically an arch-nemesis to Natasha/Natalia and has her own exosuit. Nebula who may be fun as a Guardian but we still lost a good female villain. Ghost/Ava Starr (after Janet van Dyne cured her). Also with Killer Frost in a way, though not Caitlin Snow in the comics, Frost classically enjoys killing with no remorse, but the CWDCU refused to adapt her, but made that some alternate Caitlin identity who became an ally in 'The Flash'. Only Chillblaine and Loki has been male villains who did a 180 that doesn't fit their villainous comic roots. It's all annoying. Oh and no genderswaps like with Flag Smasher (Karli Morgenthau based on Karl Morgenthau, should've made her his granddaughter), Ghost (Ava is an original character, but what she has is nothing without what was made for a man), Mirror Mistress in 'The Flash', that one cloaked telekinetic villain in 'The Flash', Cicada's daughter (her dad did not have a dark matter shard lodged in his brain, but she needs one to be a villain), a female pyrokinetic villain is genderswapped to be a man in 'The Flash'. And no indirect adaptation like with Hela (when us Hela fans say we want her in the MCU, we want the primordial force that manifested into Hela and was adopted by Loki, or at least Loki's and Angrboda's daughter... Not Odin's daughter with an avoided mother who gets shunted). I like when actresses are given equal opportunity to play dynamic characters. And these movies/shows have yet to allow women villains who's writing is so cared about, they have performances/imagery/lines that can stand next to Burtonverse and Nolanverse Jokers, Thanos, Voldemort, Emperor Palpatine, Hans Gruber, The Operative ('Serenity'). Plus, more stuntwomen will have way more jobs. We cannot get this as long as writers keep being, apparently, scared of evil women. There are thousands of real documented ones to be inspired by, female crimelords (the ones we know of) alone are suitable examples. Just to give perspective. Here are female-led movies in the past 9 years that avoided giving women even more jobs by way of avoiding letting them be villains. Charlie's Angels-2019 Prey Lucy Atomic Blonde Proud Mary Kate Atone The Protogé Heart of Stone Gunpowder Milkshake The 355 Split Lip The Mother The Princess Jolt Peppermint Those Who Wish Me Dead Fear The Night Birds of Prey Wonder Woman Wonder Woman 1984 Captain Marvel Black Widow Batgirl (yes, cancelled, but they confirmed Firefly instead of, say, Lady Shiva who's had more of a presence than Firefly generally has).
Just finished watching this. You basically went into what I took too long to write in my previous comment. Again, on point! What's been happening in Hollywood honestly feels like a psi-op. Never has been a totally good industry, FAR from it. But, like you said, since about 2017, it seems like somebody has been trying to destroy everything we have been having a good time watching. Balance is being disproportionately unbalanced for the sake of, what some call balance, instead seems to be, as you pointed out, absolving women who do bad things. The people writing that know a bunch of kids are watching. It gives the impression that a group of people want to deflect attention from real women who continue to be up to no good. That's quite a stretch, but, even when child-violators are portrayed and being tortured, they are never women. It looks more and more likely they are deflecting.
I just felt like Rey had no growth, just a blank slate, I felt nothing watching it and my ultra feminist half-brother (he hated the prequels as an original purist) galvanized me for not feeling anything seeing The Force Awakens cause I couldnt put my finger why I felt empty watching it. After the Last Jedi, I realized there was a cult making Star Wars a crude corrupted version of itself, the movie kept trying to tug at the places but it didn't deserve it in my mind.
I wouldn't even say that Rey was the worst part of those sequels. The worst part of the sequels was the fact that they copied so many plot points from the original trilogy. They brought nothing new to the table. And most of the new characters weren't very likable. I know that the writers at Disney lack creativity. But bringing back Emperor Palpatine was just pathetic.
I still love The Force Awakens even after becoming a prequel convert, but dammit... The problem with Rey is that there was potential in her character; looking at Awakens, she mainly used the force as a mental weapon performing mind tricks and resisting mind probes, only really doing the push/pull routine when she grabs the Skywalker Saber and uses it to defend herself at the end. In The Last Jedi, she became a complete and total nothing-burger and an OP protagonist. Rey COULD have worked, but they didn't plan ahead once in the sequel trilogy, so the end result is just a nobody who is insanely overpowered to the point it's not funny anymore.
I’ve been watching a lot of movies from the ‘40s and ‘50s lately (as a concerted attempt to escape modernity and its inverted sense of morality), and I have to say… the women in these movies do not seem at all cowed or oppressed to me. They are as strong, resilient, and self-possessed as any modern feminist is. The difference is they are also respectful, humble, and kind.
Young, modern feminists don't seem to understand that feminism has been around for over 100 years, since films were silent, and female film characters have reflected the contemporary state of feminism almost as long.
Let's not act like this Feminism virus is something that just started infecting movies in recent years. We can easily go back to the 90s and see this happening, such as Judi Dench's female M dressing down Pierce Brosnan's Bond in GoldenEye, calling him a dinosaur or the Spice Girls' mantra of "Girl Power!" to name but a few key examples.
@@patrickols If you read how she got to where she is, you'd see that Madonna was a 304 who by going with the right men slept her way up the music hierarchy ladder.
I think the beginning of the end for the MCU was the totally cringeworthy all woman scene in Endgame. There was absolutely no reason to have it other than for some feminist statement. Why not just have them fighting alongside the men? That would've shown true equality, rather than having that sledgehammer political statement.
My alarm went off with Star Wars: The Force Awakens. The start of the Sequel Trilogy trainwreck was the thing that told me that film was the starting point of everything going wrong. It was the film that basically a genderflipped remake of A New Hope and started treating men as useless. When you have Leia hugging some random woman she met only a few hours before and not Chewie, her long time friend, over the loss of Han Solo, I knew it was the start of a trainwreck. Additional Edit: Also, the modern writers probably haven't heard that quote because it comes from a straight white male, and that's enough for them to ignore it.
It's obvious to me that these creators have no real care for what they produce. They care about the distribution of money, and therefore power, within their hollywood bubble.
I'm against *toxic* feminism in media, for me it's when the marketing or the story frame it's strong female characters as if they are breaking some type of glass ceiling that already got broken 40 years ago, when they unnecessarily and unjustifiably bring down their male characters and when they give their female characters the same characteristics they say they hate in male characters but they give a pass when it's the female characters who have those characteristics.
The even dumber part than Reva's epitome to not kill Luke is Obi-Wan, literally having the best opportunity to kill Vader & doesn't. In both cases, the characters were written into corners that had to be constrained for continuity, making both characters & story poorer for it. All the death Vader causes now IS on him, while after years of hunting her old brethren, Reva finally has it hit her what she was doing... even after she was willing to put Leia to a torture device? Or that kid & others in stasis as trophies? It didn't hit her until then of how unhinged she acted the entire show before? Kenobi just looks incompetent to all hell, but not as bad as Bail... geez... what a show...
Star Wars Ep 7 and Captain Marvel making over a billion at the box office with such bland Mary Sue characters probably made Hollywood think they could get away with this
An awesome beginning to a subject that REALLY needs to be discussed Nerdword. I have watched movies for as long I can remember. There have been films which were great, solid, so-so and awful...you can also include characters as well. What has had me scratching my head is Hollywood's "love" of the "strong female character" and the bad writing that came along with it. In my opinion, this mindset isn't a step forward, but a major step back. Let's take a look back (GASP!) in film history at three specific characters: Sara Conner, Ellen Ripley and Dr. Lindsey Brigman (played Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in 1989's The Abyss). In my opinion, these are three examples of great characters who are female. Are they strong? yes, in their own ways. Are they infallible? no, they're not. What makes these characters great is, of course, good writing and character development. Along with that is an element that all three characters share: they're human. In T2, Sarah falls to pieces when the T-900 exits the elevator and is initially cold to her son John. In Aliens, Ellen suffers from PTSD and DOES NOT want to go back to LV-426 and Dr. Brigman could care less about her husband (her husband shares those same feelings as well, to be fair). These ladies had a main obstacle to overcome, along with the possibility of dying (one of them did, for a few minutes). They also showed vulnerability. Now do you think these awesome characters would've been written now? I think it's safe to say that this way of thinking has run out the actual talent (talent isn't gender-specific) that WAS in Hollywood...for now. I do believe, to use bad grammar, a change is a comin' and we're already seeing it. Look how BADLY The Marvels bombed in theaters in comparison to Godzilla: Minus One. Look at what's surrounding the "Rey" movie by LucasFilm. It's not if the movie will fail, it's how badly the movie will fail due to how Rey Palpatine was a failure of a character in The Sequels, along with some of the director's comments. The studio's tactic of calling fans/movie-goers a '-ist' or a '-phobe' has lost most of its' sting. If this "mindset" continues, Hollywood will shrivel up, die and become dust...blown away by the winds of time.
There's been strong female characters in movies for decades & they know this 🤔 now it's about pushing the hatred of men... Has me thinking how do those feminist girl bosses treat the men actors on set🤔
It’s always the same themes with these characters: “I’m awesome all the time and it was everyone else that is the problem.” All these characters are the same and when you remove the various power sets, they’re the same and interchangeable. It’s quite insulting if the idea is female representation, Hollywood is essentially saying women are all the same.
7:15 Huh, that's true in real life. Seen more than a few videos of women in their 30s who went with the whole Girl Boss, Career first approach to life and now they are single, depressed and alone.
When it come to modern feminism I am reminded of a line in As Good As It Gets. Melvin Udall is asked by his publishers assistant how he can write such convincing female characters. He replies" I write them as a man then I take away reason and accountability."
It is so funny that the only moment Galadriel from Peter Jackson's trilogy behaved like the Galadriel from Rings of Power was in that ring temptation scene. The irony of course was completely lost on the RoP showrunners.
The phrase, "reimagined for modern audiences," guarantees that the new movie to which it is applied will be awful. The other thing is that "modern audiences" to which such movies are supposedly aimed really do not exist. So, we are seeing movies and TV series released that are badly written and executed. They are also aimed at audiences that do not really exist. Is it any wonder that the real audience is repelled by such nonsense.
You’re right. A lot to unpack in a single video. Stories and dialogue that don’t appear to be written by humans. Often populated by aggressively shallow, unlikeable, unrelatable, characters. Flawless, over-powered, underdeveloped women surrounded by weak, cowardly, incompetent men who abandon their responsibilities. Reasons I more frequently stop watching movies 20-30 min in.
Thank you for the reminder that great female characters have existed forever in cinema, especially in drama, scifi & horror. The Batwoman show was bad due to the writing period. Your essay was insightful for those who don't or have not explored classic cinema with well written female leads such as alien, aliens, or the long kiss goodnight. All of these female leads have agency of their own. Great reminder of the current state of female roles for women actors.
It's gotten so bad that if I even see a female lead on a poster for some movie/tv show I'm just straight up NOT watching it. I write for a living and I genuinely don't even want to write female characters anymore due to all the feminists complaining about female characters and how men write them. It's always "sexualization" this, or "male gaze" that. Or "why does she need to be saved by a man" I'm tired. I just don't care anymore. I will not be writing or watching series with female characters. I'm done.
"The Americans," the TV series about a family of Russian spies living in Washington, D.C., (2013 - 2018) was my introduction to the blight of modern feminism. All the tropes were present: female superiority in spy craft (along with heavy doses of female victimhood); 'centering' the females' narrative, the daughter is innately superior to the son in spying, etc., But it was the hatred of men that really took it to a new level. In one particularly egregious example, a young man is slain in cold blood simply because he dared to politely proposition a young woman. In another, a paralyzed American guy bleeds to death on the floor while the Russian female spy gloats over his death. Ironically, the young woman who played the innately-gifted-in-spy-craft daughter was not a good actress and was heavily criticized by viewers. So much for female innate competence.
😠The Black widow movie is crap. Female taskmaster and all the black widows survive at the end. But all the men die and her mother who is responsible for everything gets off. 😡
I think if you want better representation of a lesbian Xena Warrior Princess is probably a good example. Xena respects men as equals even her male enemies. She had allot of flaws because she started out as warmonger then her character slowly started to develop into a sympathetic person and some of it was because of her relationship with Gabrielle. She tried to make up for the mistakes she made in her life. She joined forces with Hercules in the show and respect him as a friend. Back when this showed air allot of people really loved it and the actress that played her Lucy Lawless who by the way is 55 and looks still is a gorgeous woman.
There is a Soviet film "Seventeen Moments of Spring", which tells about a Soviet intelligence officer in Germany during the Second World War. The director is a woman - Tatiana Lioznova. Today, this multi-part film is a cult classic in the former Soviet republics. And no one was surprised or had a discussion about the fact that the film was shot by a woman.
2016 Ghostbusters created the holes and cracks in the boat. 2017's the Last Jedi further split these holes wide open, and here we are. All the loud pseudo-activism started with those 2 core movies.
My only concern is that modern movies nowadays inject toxic musculinity into female characters, if you ignore their genders and diversities and you'll see how bland and lazily written said characters are. A good writer can easily write something worthwhile all incorporating those aspects in the story not making it everything about said topic. As a result most writers and media companies (looking at you Disney) just pander to "modern" audience, which ironically only attacks other movies but never depends those pandering them, while using double standards and diversity as a magical shield against criticism, constructive or otherwise.
More and more I come to the conclusion that it´s not feminism or "wokeism" by itself that makes movies and series bad. It´s the bad storytelling that makes them bad. You don´t create a strong female character by just making all the male characters act like cretins. Like the german critic Reich-Ranicki put it many years ago: "You can always describe men as horrible creatures. But as an author you have to be able to do so."
On your intro: It's the beginning of the end that has begun years ago: The end of me paying money for visual entertainment like movies from the USA. They aren't worth it... We have our own, non-propaganda movie industry in Europe... 😉
Your video is 100% accurate and I very much appreciate it. I'm going to take a look at your channel and see if you've discussed the DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) policies in Hollywood, if you haven't talk about this yet you totally should, and if you have I look foward to seeing your video on it. DEI is going to marginalize everyone based on race and orientation, some writers won't be allowed to write certain stories if they're not of a particular race, as well as having ideas like "male and pale is stale."
Why does modern Hollywood think that movies change minds? Ok, minds, views, attitudes, beliefs, convictions? I've read a metric shad-load of material on psych, attitude formation, political and consumer behavior. And at no point does the river flow from movie to attitude. Nowhere. It flows from culture to politics, thru zeitgeist, fashion, peer influence and so on. Hollywood evidently thinks that they are not in the movie biz, they are in doctrine, and sermons. Think of it this way: where is the evidence that putting Sam Wilson in Cap America garb is good for real world representation, race relations, social harmony, redress and balance, or some other socio-political outcome? What did Ms Marvel do for the social position of Pakistan's girls and women? The answer is nothing, and it is absurd to think that it would. Bc how could it?
'Lets take everything away from our sons'? Sounds pretty hateful to me. And whats worse is that none of these boss chicks are challenged or held accountable. If male characters have everything come so easy, they would feel just as boring to watch. Believe it or not, most movies with The Rock get boring af. I mean, look at Predator vs any Fast and Furious movie with Dwayne Johnson. Arnold, the freaking Terminator gets his a*s handed to him by the giant killer alien. He eventually starts to look as weak, small and vulnerable as Bruce Willis. The Rock is never made vulnerable in his movies. Its even in his contract. That is sooo boring. But when Arnold victors over the Predator, its so much more satisfying. That is the fulfillment of drama and tension that modern storytellers dont understand
I just have to say this about female villains in general... by making them all victims, you're also making them all weak. I miss the days when villains, regardless of gender, were evil by choice and took great pride in their villainy. Because of that, some of them even won in the end. In contrast, sympathetic villains merited true sympathy and were fleshed out as being more than just the trauma. And the best part was, it was naturally egalitarian. We even have diverse villains who could be who they were without making everything about their skin colour, religion, etc. And I liked that because back then, everyone really was equal by way of their character. Like Eric July said: equality is a side effect of putting quality first.
2015? Look back at 2012. That was the year Marvel rebranded Carol Danvers from the blond, super-hot (and a bit feminist) air-force pilot Ms. Marvel into the manly, breastless, VERY feminist Captain Marvel. This wasn't just a new look for the character, or an excuse to give the character a new #1 issue. This was part of a campaign to make her the "Superman" of the Marvel universe - the most powerful, most popular, most looked-up to, most inspirational character that all the other heroes would look up to instead of that patriotic old boy scout Captain America (right when the Captain America movie and Avengers made Cap more popular than he had been since 1940 - and arguably even MORE popular than ever). For the next DECADE she couldn't appear in a book without "the most powerful and popular superhero in the world" (or some variation thereof) in a narration balloon on the panel (I can only guess in the hopes that Marvel readers would eventually buy into it - spoiler warning: the didn't) and a slew (very diverse) of Captain Marvel fans trying to take selfies with her. Marvel followed this up in 2013 by introducing Kamalah Kahn (who would become Ms. Marvel at the beginning of 2014) and be Captain Marvel's in-universe fan-girl (an just like Captain Marvel was supposed to replace Captain America as the head of the Marvel Universe, the new Ms. Marvel was supposed to replace Spider-man as the heart of the Marvel universe - and was perfectly representative of the new audience Marvel was gunning for: that is, not white, not male). This was the first step in the lead up to the 2017 "All New, All Different Marvel" campaign that essentially race and gender swapped virtually all of Marvels a and b-list characters. 2012 was also the year of the "Sad Puppy" revolt in which sci-fi authors and fans began protesting at the Hugo awards the organizer's tendency to overlook stories and writers that didn't feature women of color coming of the closet. But this wasn't going on in Hollywood, quite yet. This was in the Publishing Industry which had been obsessed with "representation" and "correcting historical inequities" and hating all things conservative since the 1990s. What makes 2015 stand out is because that's when a certain New York property mogul-turned-politician had the audacity to challenge the First Female President in Waiting, threw his hat into the presidential candidacy ring, and garnered a groundswell of support, and then WON - in spite of being so obviously evil and bad and evil and racist (and did I mention evil and racist?) that Hollywood had to make EVERYTHING some sort of commentary on him and the people who voted for him. In other words, it would be the first stirring of what would come to be called Trump Derangement Syndrome. You could see this especially in the 2016 all female Ghostbusters. They literally promoted this movie with people tweeting and the press claiming that "if you don't watch this movie, you're a fascist, sexist Trump supporter! Go Hillary!" But TDS wasn't just a reaction against one politician. In 2015 the Obergefell decision imposed gay marriage on the country. The left thought they had, at that point, essentially won the culture war. Obamacare had America well on the road to socializing health care, the Paris Accords promised to use control of carbon and energy as a way to micromanage every aspect of the American economy and American's lives and erase American sovereignty to unelected international organizations, and now the institution of marriage was essentially devoid of meaning. It was at this point that the "T" was added to the "LGB" because they no longer needed the "born that way" argument to sell homosexual marriage to the public. Now that "marriage" was devoid of meaning, they undertook to make "woman" and "man" devoid of meaning, too. States were already passing laws forbidding treating homosexual attraction as a psychological disorder and now sexual dysphoria would be treated not as a psychological condition to be treated, but, like "gay," an "identity" to be celebrated. They were even starting to talk about "re-education camps" for those pesky "bitter clingers" and stripping the tax exempt status from any and every church or synagogue that wouldn't host a gay marriage. (Not mosques, though - they were still, as a "marginalized" religion, exempt from the coercion Christian churches were to be targeted with - and they voted democrat, too.) Trump showing up and winning made them realize that the culture war they thought was over and won, wasn't over at all. And not only was it not over, their favorite never-fail strategy was no longer working. They were realizing that a huge swath of the American public was now immune to the old "Just call 'em racist and they'll duck and cover and let you do whatever you want" strategy the Democrats had used to keep those annoying republicans (especially the elected ones) in their place.
@@wisehippo3072 You sound rather like the Emperor about to try and turn Luke to the Dark Side. I'm wrong? Oh, the Sad Puppies were at the Nebulas instead of the Hugos? Or was I off about Ms. Marvel #1 being in February 2014? I'm angry? No, all the anger is in the now young thirty-somethings who were the twenty-somethings falling to their knees and screaming their lungs out over Trump winning in 2016.
And yet, with all this feminism, not a single one will speak up about men cosplaying as women and playing in their sports, taking away their opportunities. Imagine the goodwill and support that "feminism" would get for a change if they actually stood and fought for a common sense cause like this. Wouldn't they shed a bit of their negative image they have?
I'm separated from the mother of my 9 years old. Recently we have been watching some Marvel. I choose the one that she can watch. We have been watching Ant-man. The film where a dad is told that if he pays child maintenamce he will be a good dad and allowed to see his little girl. "Pay to see your child and I will convince her that you are a good dad!" While the mother is in couple, have a nice little house and new husband with money and the dad of her daughter have none. The way society tell us how to be a father is: sacrifice all you have, if your couple doesnt work it is your fault and you can't rebuild yourself after it breaks down. Then there is that scene where ant man watch his baby girl sleeping and give her a kiss in her forehead. When i was watching that scene with my daughter she smiled at me and said: "That's why you always give me a kiss in my hair before I fall asleep" I ised to find antman the most "meh" marvel but now, I just see it dofferently. The guy literally do all the things he does for his daughter. All the goals in that movie are for his little girl. Because, in modern feminism we forgot that men suffer the same as a woman when their children are taken away from them. BTW, I went to court twice. Once adter my ex decided that i should only see my daughter every other Sunday. I then pay a lot of maintenance and im sure that her goal was the wellbeing of my daughter, not more money from Child maintenance. I then had an order for a nearly 50/50. Then after my ex breached the order 6 times I went back for a 50/50. All the moms at my daughter's school refuse to speak to me, Im the weirdo and abusive ex for whatever reason, but you know what, I don't care. I know what I'm giving to my little girl. I'm my iwn version of Ant-man, without the suit and will probably stay single for the rest of my life because money is thight. Last thing, I'm not in the US of anyone wonder how I managed to have a shared residency 50/50. I know it is hard in the US...
Leia is a PRINCESS!! Even as a child, she would be accustomed to "bossing adults around" if the grown ups are not nobles or high ranking officials. Obi-Wan presented himself to Leia as a nobody from nowhere, not a former Jedi Master and a top general of The Clone Wars.
Okay, so you CLEARLY know neither the character of her parents nor how royalty historically or today handles their kids. Leia would NOT understand the concept of bossing people around because she would NEVER actually have an opportunity to do it at that age. Kids don’t tell servants what to do in households where their parents care about them (and Leia’s clearly care about her). That would be a far too easy way to circumvent parental rules. The servants get instructions from the kid’s parents. And NO ONE tells the security forces what to do except for other security forces, and Obi-Wan in this case would be a bodyguard. At this age, Leia SHOULD be very used to listening to adults while maybe being a bit more intelligent than average. That’s about it.
@@John-fk2ky You have CLEARLY forgotten that we are referring to a galaxy with Kings and Queens of entire planets that can be adolescents. Amidala was Queen of Naboo at age 14, and she said that she wasn't the youngest person to ever rule. If all the systems of the Republic were willing to recognize children as world leaders, then I am sure Prince and Princess have a bit of above average stroke to get what they want from The Help. I am not suggesting that Leia was "bossing adults around" like she was actually in charge of hiring and firing the employees. Instead, I am suggesting that she came from a high level of privilege and notoriety. She would be accustomed to doing what she wanted and getting what she wanted with a minimum of push back. Think about Uncle Phil's kids' relationship to their butler in the original Fresh Prince Of Bel Air series. The butler could offer a snarky remark here and there, but when one of the kids asked the butler to do something, then the butler would do it. Something needs cleaning? He does it. Something needs fixing? He sees to it. Something needs to be replaced? He finds it. Something needs to be confidential? He silences it. That is how people of privilege live and people of royal stature live even higher on the hogs. The common folks would have mostly likely offer even less push back toward the social elite (if they knew what was good for them). I am sure Leia had a very similar experience growing up on Alderean. She was very accustomed to getting her way with people beneath her. Obi-Wan presented himself as someone beneath her, so she interacted with him accordingly. By the way, "bossing adults around" was stated by the host. I use the quote as a reference to the matter in question.
You're not wrong. The main reason why modern female characters are not even remotely as interesting as male ones is that they are not allowed to suffer, deal with consequences, or even get injured outside of horror movies. There are a few exceptions like my own works, but it's not all that common.
The way I see it, its the late '50s again and the Hollywood system is burning down.....again!! GOOD! The last time this happened, we got the AMERICAN NEW WAVE film movement (Mean Streets, Bonnie & Clyde, Taxi Driver, MASH, Easy Rider, Killing of a Chinese Bookie, 2001 Space Odyssey, etc) which was inspired by the European New Wave. So although it might take awhile, I'm excited for whats next!!
The legacy characters have been so disrespected as well as the fans. Leia was an iconic real feminine hero. She could fight, be diplomatic and was beautiful . The woke version is a woman trying to be a man and trying to elevate themselves by denigrating the male characters.
"I don't wanna be like Cinderella sitting in a dark old dusty cellar waiting for somebody to come and set me free" is a lyric from the Cheeta girls song way back in the day and ut has always stuck with me until I thought about why a few years ago. It's a lie. A boldfaced lie. The destruction of the Disney princess is what triggered my awakening to the agenda push. It was the most insidious one because people went along with it for years. Whatever female empowerment was, it was not a Disney princess, except for Mulan (but her live action remake showed the powers that be hated her too). I realized these people only viewed strong women in terms of overwhelming physical strength. In terms of harshness, stoicism, promiscuity, and rage. One of my favorite female characters is Jang Geum from the kdrama Jewel in the Palace (note: I never used sex/race as a distinguisher for characters until I had to organize my thoughts on this nonsense). She was one of many types of "strong" "female" "characters" for me. She never wielded a sword, she never used the wrongs done to her as justification for being nasty, in fact, she tried to not sink to the level of the ones wishing her ruin. She asked for help and accepted help when needed. And I swear to god, never in my life has a romance arc with a male lead been so wonderfully written. A hand holding in this thing had the weight of first kiss in other romances because the stakes of such a seemingly meaningless act was built up with each episode, each interaction. You need to understand how strict class division rules were back then to understand just how momentous this scene is. You can't watch this thing halfheartedly you need to get lost in it.... What the heck wass I talking about again? Oh yeah, feminism destroying the mediums entertainment I adore. Like, all of them. Comics, games, movies, shows-hell, that budlight fiasco proved they're ruining brands too. Modern femism isn't about female empowerment, it's about male subjugation. Tbh, I think this has always been the case and we just happened to get some rights out of it.
Pandering was always a small virus within American society. It was just too subtle that when it occurred it wasn’t bragged about for audience to complain. Those who noticed, noticed. Those who didn’t, didn’t. And the movie was praised or banned for what it was. Billy Dee Williams was cast as Harvey Dent back in the 80’s. WB didn’t say “so Billy Dee Williams will be the first black Batman villain”. People were more upset with Michael Keaton. But the movie is a hit and an icon to some. Now imagine if that movie was released today. WB would have a different marketing approach. It all began in 2009 in my opinion with the show Glee. The show that it was all about singing your insecurities and how beautiful you are. Also Obama came to office and pretty much amplified the same messages from a political stage. And it went down hill ever since. Social Media just connected many of the normies whom don’t watch many of those shows they just want to feel “represented”. And all they screamed at was their desires and their shipping (demanding one character to fall in love with another character…or else) And for stupid reason, companies make the one mistake (which they keep doing for decades) they assume the loud few are the ones who have the power to cut off or make revenues. That when the pandering became a game for them. CW now brags about their “firsts”. First female lesbian. First so and so person of color. Disney…the bedrock of capitalism just made it their game because Bob Iger believed that Disney need to expand aside from using existing IP. Hence their buying rights of everything they can get their hands on. From Star Wars to the Marvels comics. And the pandering to loud normies.
A lot of "Feminist" (Whatever lol) don't realize that Most Men, especially my age, 45, have certain Female characters they are MEMORIALIZED. A lot of us, if given the opportunity, in a video game for example, WILL PLAY THE FEMALE CHARACTER. It's so Cool to take a BADASS Female Character and KICK ASS WITH HER. For me JILL VALENTINE is THE GOAT OF ALL VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS. Lol i NEVER PLAYED Chris Redfield🤷🏾♂️. RE3 is my favorite, and the way they re did her in the remake AND Death Island was ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. She was NOT to be fucked with. EARNED BADASSERY progression wise, but the MORE you play you're like, "SHE WAS BADASS THE WHOLE TIME", and i had the chance to experience that.
This generation of feminism is just power fantasy at this point, I like the way got handled women in the beginning or the show, they were mostly no good in battle except for aria stark ( who had to go through a rough road to earn that) and the dragon lady who well had 3 fucking dragons, but the women in that show understand that they’re power is different to a man’s, they understand that they’re influence is they’re power, they can charm and trick men into getting what they wanted and that’s basically real life, men are slaves to their second head and women can get what ever they want from us by realizing that (which every woman) does and using that to their advantage’s, now we got power girl scaring thanos with her “raw strength” it’s so stupid
See, I started noticing this shit AAAAAALLLLLL the way back I. legend of Korra. TLJ followed Korea’s template. I didn’t know what to call it at the time, except bad writing.
It's complicated I am sure, but I think it may be Disney's knee-jerk reaction to millions of internet comments. 2015-2018 was when the internet was lighting up with reactions to the Me-Too movement and Oscars-so-white, and let's not forget that Trump won in late 2016 which changed the course of American morality and condoned the rise of nationalist racism and misogyny. These ideas/reactions were REALLY pushed hard online and it would have been difficult to miss by Hollywood. Whether or not this kind of writing afterwards is a pandering direct response to that is unknown, but it sure seems like it. Just like in politics, we may want to blame the candidates but we should probably be looking at the voters.
I feel sorry for proper feminists, because the ideology was about women getting the same chances and treatment as men and not getting shoved to the side just because they're women. But the people in Hollywood claiming to be feminists aren't interested in that. They want to be told they're better than men. That they're smarter, stronger, tougher, and just better in every way. Instead of equality, these women just want to be on top of the pile to satisfy their own egos. And because of that, they are actively hurting regular women.
The cause ceased to have a reason to be a cause long ago. You got everything at legal equality literally DECADES ago. Your collective failure to recognize this brought on the current mess.
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Also I think the most annoying thing is how modern Feminists act like somehow the characters they are creating are somehow breaking the mold, like great female characters, actresses, directors, writers and the like never existed before they came along. Really shows how arrogant and full of themselves they are.
They remind me of the action heroes from the 80's who were all pretty much interchangeable. Yes it was generic but you never had people trying to convince you that this was the first time that you'd see a ripped dude spouting off snappy one liners while he guns down an impressive amount of bad guys to rescue his wife/daughter/love interest.
@@LoneWolf-rc4go Eh, not exactly a fair comparison. The Action Stars of the 80s had charisma and while they were strong and tough, were allowed to be vulnerable and even weak from time to time. Rocky cries and gets the shit beaten out of him, Rambo is an emotionally broken man due to PTSD, T-800 learns humanity and admits the only reason he isn't crying is cause he literally can't, even Arnold in Commando is shown to be a nice guy and also capable of being hurt or outplayed.
Female heroes now, nope, can't ever be wrong or weak.
@@thefanwithoutaface8105 My point was that they didn't feel the need to try to convince us that they were breaking new ground every time they churned out one of these action flicks.
The current zeitgeist in Hollywood is that the idea of the 'strong female protagonist' has never been done before and that every time there's a new progressive first it needs to be treated like some massive event that was somehow 'needed' by the movie going public.
They need to convince people the are trend setters.
Because they can't compare with the past female chacters.
They're high on their own farts, in more ways than one.
Leia, in the original Star Wars trilogy, was a core member of the Luke - Leia - Han team.
She was incredibly brave, and beautifully feminine, at the same time.
The Prequels also gave us Padme, Luke & Leia's mother, who was not only the true Queen of Naboo and thus a politician, but also a skilled fighter and markswoman who created an elaborate ruse to keep her true identity secret in The Phantom Menace, before becoming the Senator for Naboo in Attack of the Clones.
@@dutchrjen Ooooh, okay! Sorry about that!
But being feminine to modern feminists is viewed as weak. So a heroine must always be masculine to them.
People always talk about the scene of Leia chained up in a skimpy outfit to try to say she wasn't a capable woman but people somehow forget she later on *killed* the guy who put her in that outfit.
Agreed, and George Lucas was very smart, to write the character in such a way, that she could be both capable, and know when to trust men to take the lead. That didn't make Leia weak, just more perceptive...and Carrie Fisher did great with her portrayal. Unfortunately, Kathleen Kennedy and Rian Johnson ruined Leia in the sequels.
The girl-power scene at the end of Endgame was a clear warning of things to come. I haven't watched an MCU movie since.
Same here. Haven't watch that movie again because of that one scene, it is so cringe.
I liked Black Widow, despite its flaw of being a prequel, but Captain Marvel killed everything for me. I hate to say this because a movie should be totally separate from the actors' real life personalities, but I can't stand the militant feminist Larson. Her personality comes right to the surface in all her smug passive aggressive performances.
@@white-dragon4424 I've never read the comic versions of Captain Marvel but I heard she was set up to be a Super Karen with questionable moral compass. But is she different than the actor's iteration of Captain Marvel? If then, how different are the two?
That scene was bizarr... putting all the women from the franchise into one shot who otherwise had nothing to do with each other. And also there is Spiderman cowering on the ground xD
@@white-dragon4424”personality” ??
When i was a kid in Nigeria, i remember watching great cartoons and shows like Juniper Lee, As told by Ginger, Hey Arnold, Legally Blonde, the Clone Wars cartoon, Avatar: Last Airbender etc. Western media had great diverse and female characters and no toxic identity politics. I really can't understand why they made this strange turn to toxic identity politics and unprofitability.
To quoteth The Joker:
"It's not about the money. It's about sending a message."
And that message is power and control.
The Feminist Movement took hold here in the 1970s, and those women began teaching in the universities. For 40+ years they spewed their ideologies of how men were awful and misogynic. 'Thelma & Louise' was not a "masterpiece" but a harbinger.
Then in the 1990s all of these sexual harassment lawsuits began to happen against men in power: corporate business, politics, military, academia, science, etc. Cleared spaces that women began demanding that they fill those spaces, qualified or not. Bill Clinton survived the whole thing because he was at their beckoning.
Fast forward to 2015-2017, there is #MeToo Movement. You didn't have to do anything. If they assumed you 'said' or 'thought' anything your life was doxed on the internet and throughout social media and ruined.
As the post above said, for people like Kathleen Kennedy, Kamala Harris, Alexandria Acacia-Cortez, Brie Larsen, Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy. Its not about 'profit', 'success', or ones 'abilities'. Those are all patriarchic standards (their words). Its all about 'the message', 'the agenda', 'setting the example', and 'creating role models'.
THAT'S What Has Happened.
ahh my brother😁
i dont even know sef
before cartoons where much better at being diverse and feminist
I think its cause story came first and was used as a vessel for diversity and inclusivity, but now its about who is the most politically correct, diversity comes first and you fill in the gaps with the scraps of a story
@@attah-odejohogwu9357 correct my guy. You summed it up perfectly
Cultural Marxism. In order to secure an egalitarian society, media conglomerates have resorted to identity politicking; since all attempts of economic reform fail, due to socialism’s inherent, massive, flaws.
Feminism in the '80s started rejecting the idea of 'transcendence' (that a character has to grow into something more than they started) as a 'male virtue.'
That's why we have had this wearying string of female heroes who only need to realize how awesome they already are...
Interesting that!
To me it was the 2016 Ghostbusters, and the marketing/fanbaiting that arose from it (at least as it appeared to at the time).
That really was the template for things to come: find a popular pre-established IP, substitute all male significant characters by female characters, victim blame the fanbase when they inevitably cry out in outrage. Rinse, Repeat. Forever.
It was slowly happening before then, but the girl groupie Ghostbusters just blew the doors wide open.
@@Prototype-357 Eloquently and succinctly stated.
The funny thing about Kate Kane, is that she differentiated so much from her comic book counterpart, that even her animated counterpart was more accurate, she wasn't trying to be the better version of Batman, she had her own adventures, her own conflicts, and her very own story.
In the clip here, I realized that the rings of power show directly contradicts a line from The Lord of the Rings. Galadriel, when she is being tempted, says "treacherous as the sea" and in the rings of power show they say "the sea is always right." Somebody is wrong. You can't have the sea being treacherous and also being right.
The entire team of showrunners of Rings of Woke are wrong. They fired the expert advising on Tolkien's lores early is what I heard so they clearly never intended to respect the source material, as it's a direct takeover of the rights of filming.
But the sea is always right, so it mustn't be wrong
Feminism basically turned female characters from three dimensional individuals who could have genuine flaws as well as strengths, to essentially cardboard cutouts with zero personality outside of "Strong, Independent and Woman." Honestly, it's more insulting if you think about it
Cardboard cutouts have more personality than these woke female characters could ever have. They might as well have negative personality at this point, if anger and rage are their only traits.
At least with cardboard cutouts you can insert your own headcanons.
Ray front star wars, for example. Throughout six movies, novels, comic books, and people who have the ability to need training, except Ray, she can do everything great.
Replace woman with androgynous creature because they hate gender and actual femininity…in women.
* *PRETEND strong, faux-independent barely woman.* A much more accurate, precise descriptor.
Could you please make a video about how women like masculine male characters ? (Unlike what feminists would have people think)
Because on youtube all i know is women calling them toxic, men praising feminine characters or women praising masculine men (but not fictional men, as far as i've seen)
Yes! I so wish they would stop emasculating strong, masculine male characters!
… just waiting for the industry to collapse from they weight of its own foolish agendas.
Small, independent film makes will then be free to produce content again, on a sensible budget, with a genuine balanced cast to rise phoenix-like, and give us a choice of something decent to watch.
"The bigger they, the harder they fall", so I would not be surprised to see Disney being the first to collapse.
The pursuit of power as a way to vent resentment... what could possibly go wrong? Immaturity really is a problem in society these days.
Dont worry everyone
I have a movie that will surely be a new edition to superhero movies
And I hope to make it in the future
Rn it's just creating the story,heroes etc
0:00 Right off the bat, I agree. 2015 felt like the beginning of the end of good entertainment.
My alarms went off a lot earlier than yours, evidently, but I'm flippin' old.
Ghostbusters 2016 was the beginning.
I love your commentary in the videos I've watched. You are so straightforward, so on point, and so clear about not being hateful, but rather loving the power of entertainment so much, you are alongside us who just want balance again. Even I have said, around 2016 and onwards, things started downsloping.
I think you covered this before, but if there's anything that bothers me the most, it's the female villain conundrum. I stand by the preference that most female-led Action-centric content should have the protag woman take on an antag woman who mostly deploys henchwomen. No mind warping (like Antonia Dreykov had which effed up her vendetta potential against Natasha, especially with Olga Kurylenko in such a role against Scarlett), no "was a villain, now a hero" (like with Nakia who's a considerable Black Panther foe. Melina Vostokoff who's practically an arch-nemesis to Natasha/Natalia and has her own exosuit. Nebula who may be fun as a Guardian but we still lost a good female villain. Ghost/Ava Starr (after Janet van Dyne cured her). Also with Killer Frost in a way, though not Caitlin Snow in the comics, Frost classically enjoys killing with no remorse, but the CWDCU refused to adapt her, but made that some alternate Caitlin identity who became an ally in 'The Flash'. Only Chillblaine and Loki has been male villains who did a 180 that doesn't fit their villainous comic roots. It's all annoying.
Oh and no genderswaps like with Flag Smasher (Karli Morgenthau based on Karl Morgenthau, should've made her his granddaughter), Ghost (Ava is an original character, but what she has is nothing without what was made for a man), Mirror Mistress in 'The Flash', that one cloaked telekinetic villain in 'The Flash', Cicada's daughter (her dad did not have a dark matter shard lodged in his brain, but she needs one to be a villain), a female pyrokinetic villain is genderswapped to be a man in 'The Flash'. And no indirect adaptation like with Hela (when us Hela fans say we want her in the MCU, we want the primordial force that manifested into Hela and was adopted by Loki, or at least Loki's and Angrboda's daughter... Not Odin's daughter with an avoided mother who gets shunted).
I like when actresses are given equal opportunity to play dynamic characters. And these movies/shows have yet to allow women villains who's writing is so cared about, they have performances/imagery/lines that can stand next to Burtonverse and Nolanverse Jokers, Thanos, Voldemort, Emperor Palpatine, Hans Gruber, The Operative ('Serenity'). Plus, more stuntwomen will have way more jobs. We cannot get this as long as writers keep being, apparently, scared of evil women. There are thousands of real documented ones to be inspired by, female crimelords (the ones we know of) alone are suitable examples.
Just to give perspective. Here are female-led movies in the past 9 years that avoided giving women even more jobs by way of avoiding letting them be villains.
Charlie's Angels-2019
Prey
Lucy
Atomic Blonde
Proud Mary
Kate
Atone
The Protogé
Heart of Stone
Gunpowder Milkshake
The 355
Split Lip
The Mother
The Princess
Jolt
Peppermint
Those Who Wish Me Dead
Fear The Night
Birds of Prey
Wonder Woman
Wonder Woman 1984
Captain Marvel
Black Widow
Batgirl (yes, cancelled, but they confirmed Firefly instead of, say, Lady Shiva who's had more of a presence than Firefly generally has).
Just finished watching this. You basically went into what I took too long to write in my previous comment. Again, on point! What's been happening in Hollywood honestly feels like a psi-op. Never has been a totally good industry, FAR from it. But, like you said, since about 2017, it seems like somebody has been trying to destroy everything we have been having a good time watching. Balance is being disproportionately unbalanced for the sake of, what some call balance, instead seems to be, as you pointed out, absolving women who do bad things. The people writing that know a bunch of kids are watching. It gives the impression that a group of people want to deflect attention from real women who continue to be up to no good. That's quite a stretch, but, even when child-violators are portrayed and being tortured, they are never women. It looks more and more likely they are deflecting.
I just felt like Rey had no growth, just a blank slate, I felt nothing watching it and my ultra feminist half-brother (he hated the prequels as an original purist) galvanized me for not feeling anything seeing The Force Awakens cause I couldnt put my finger why I felt empty watching it. After the Last Jedi, I realized there was a cult making Star Wars a crude corrupted version of itself, the movie kept trying to tug at the places but it didn't deserve it in my mind.
I wouldn't even say that Rey was the worst part of those sequels. The worst part of the sequels was the fact that they copied so many plot points from the original trilogy. They brought nothing new to the table. And most of the new characters weren't very likable. I know that the writers at Disney lack creativity. But bringing back Emperor Palpatine was just pathetic.
Ditto.
@@nerychristian it's just a worse remake of the OT, just female and diversity oriented and executed in the worst possible ways.
I still love The Force Awakens even after becoming a prequel convert, but dammit... The problem with Rey is that there was potential in her character; looking at Awakens, she mainly used the force as a mental weapon performing mind tricks and resisting mind probes, only really doing the push/pull routine when she grabs the Skywalker Saber and uses it to defend herself at the end. In The Last Jedi, she became a complete and total nothing-burger and an OP protagonist.
Rey COULD have worked, but they didn't plan ahead once in the sequel trilogy, so the end result is just a nobody who is insanely overpowered to the point it's not funny anymore.
I’ve been watching a lot of movies from the ‘40s and ‘50s lately (as a concerted attempt to escape modernity and its inverted sense of morality), and I have to say… the women in these movies do not seem at all cowed or oppressed to me. They are as strong, resilient, and self-possessed as any modern feminist is. The difference is they are also respectful, humble, and kind.
Young, modern feminists don't seem to understand that feminism has been around for over 100 years, since films were silent, and female film characters have reflected the contemporary state of feminism almost as long.
I would like to see you do a video on the destruction of Wanda Maximoff from the MCU.
Never should've been in the MCU to begin with. That decision led to ruining a lot going forward, and not just in the MCU.
Let's not act like this Feminism virus is something that just started infecting movies in recent years. We can easily go back to the 90s and see this happening, such as Judi Dench's female M dressing down Pierce Brosnan's Bond in GoldenEye, calling him a dinosaur or the Spice Girls' mantra of "Girl Power!" to name but a few key examples.
Madonna in the 80’s! Anyone remember “don’t settle for second best but your love to the test”?
@@patrickols If you read how she got to where she is, you'd see that Madonna was a 304 who by going with the right men slept her way up the music hierarchy ladder.
I think the beginning of the end for the MCU was the totally cringeworthy all woman scene in Endgame. There was absolutely no reason to have it other than for some feminist statement. Why not just have them fighting alongside the men? That would've shown true equality, rather than having that sledgehammer political statement.
My alarm went off with Star Wars: The Force Awakens. The start of the Sequel Trilogy trainwreck was the thing that told me that film was the starting point of everything going wrong. It was the film that basically a genderflipped remake of A New Hope and started treating men as useless. When you have Leia hugging some random woman she met only a few hours before and not Chewie, her long time friend, over the loss of Han Solo, I knew it was the start of a trainwreck.
Additional Edit: Also, the modern writers probably haven't heard that quote because it comes from a straight white male, and that's enough for them to ignore it.
It's obvious to me that these creators have no real care for what they produce. They care about the distribution of money, and therefore power, within their hollywood bubble.
I'm against *toxic* feminism in media, for me it's when the marketing or the story frame it's strong female characters as if they are breaking some type of glass ceiling that already got broken 40 years ago, when they unnecessarily and unjustifiably bring down their male characters and when they give their female characters the same characteristics they say they hate in male characters but they give a pass when it's the female characters who have those characteristics.
The even dumber part than Reva's epitome to not kill Luke is Obi-Wan, literally having the best opportunity to kill Vader & doesn't. In both cases, the characters were written into corners that had to be constrained for continuity, making both characters & story poorer for it. All the death Vader causes now IS on him, while after years of hunting her old brethren, Reva finally has it hit her what she was doing... even after she was willing to put Leia to a torture device? Or that kid & others in stasis as trophies? It didn't hit her until then of how unhinged she acted the entire show before? Kenobi just looks incompetent to all hell, but not as bad as Bail... geez... what a show...
Awesome video NerdWord!
Star Wars Ep 7 and Captain Marvel making over a billion at the box office with such bland Mary Sue characters probably made Hollywood think they could get away with this
An awesome beginning to a subject that REALLY needs to be discussed Nerdword. I have watched movies for as long I can remember. There have been films which were great, solid, so-so and awful...you can also include characters as well. What has had me scratching my head is Hollywood's "love" of the "strong female character" and the bad writing that came along with it. In my opinion, this mindset isn't a step forward, but a major step back.
Let's take a look back (GASP!) in film history at three specific characters: Sara Conner, Ellen Ripley and Dr. Lindsey Brigman (played Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio in 1989's The Abyss). In my opinion, these are three examples of great characters who are female. Are they strong? yes, in their own ways. Are they infallible? no, they're not. What makes these characters great is, of course, good writing and character development. Along with that is an element that all three characters share: they're human. In T2, Sarah falls to pieces when the T-900 exits the elevator and is initially cold to her son John. In Aliens, Ellen suffers from PTSD and DOES NOT want to go back to LV-426 and Dr. Brigman could care less about her husband (her husband shares those same feelings as well, to be fair). These ladies had a main obstacle to overcome, along with the possibility of dying (one of them did, for a few minutes). They also showed vulnerability. Now do you think these awesome characters would've been written now?
I think it's safe to say that this way of thinking has run out the actual talent (talent isn't gender-specific) that WAS in Hollywood...for now. I do believe, to use bad grammar, a change is a comin' and we're already seeing it. Look how BADLY The Marvels bombed in theaters in comparison to Godzilla: Minus One. Look at what's surrounding the "Rey" movie by LucasFilm. It's not if the movie will fail, it's how badly the movie will fail due to how Rey Palpatine was a failure of a character in The Sequels, along with some of the director's comments. The studio's tactic of calling fans/movie-goers a '-ist' or a '-phobe' has lost most of its' sting.
If this "mindset" continues, Hollywood will shrivel up, die and become dust...blown away by the winds of time.
There's been strong female characters in movies for decades & they know this 🤔 now it's about pushing the hatred of men... Has me thinking how do those feminist girl bosses treat the men actors on set🤔
I really like your takes
It’s always the same themes with these characters: “I’m awesome all the time and it was everyone else that is the problem.” All these characters are the same and when you remove the various power sets, they’re the same and interchangeable. It’s quite insulting if the idea is female representation, Hollywood is essentially saying women are all the same.
7:15 Huh, that's true in real life. Seen more than a few videos of women in their 30s who went with the whole Girl Boss, Career first approach to life and now they are single, depressed and alone.
Yep, and barren since they missed their window
Outstanding. Great video
When it come to modern feminism I am reminded of a line in As Good As It Gets. Melvin Udall is asked by his publishers assistant how he can write such convincing female characters. He replies" I write them as a man then I take away reason and accountability."
Great piece. All I ever wanted, as a man, is to watch compelling great stories.
It is so funny that the only moment Galadriel from Peter Jackson's trilogy behaved like the Galadriel from Rings of Power was in that ring temptation scene.
The irony of course was completely lost on the RoP showrunners.
The phrase, "reimagined for modern audiences," guarantees that the new movie to which it is applied will be awful. The other thing is that "modern audiences" to which such movies are supposedly aimed really do not exist. So, we are seeing movies and TV series released that are badly written and executed. They are also aimed at audiences that do not really exist. Is it any wonder that the real audience is repelled by such nonsense.
MeToo is when it became overt. But the seeds were planted long before.
Thank you so much for making this!!
Of course!!
*_"Power Corrupts,"_* and *_"Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely."_*
I quit watching new movies after end Game.
You’re right. A lot to unpack in a single video. Stories and dialogue that don’t appear to be written by humans. Often populated by aggressively shallow, unlikeable, unrelatable, characters. Flawless, over-powered, underdeveloped women surrounded by weak, cowardly, incompetent men who abandon their responsibilities. Reasons I more frequently stop watching movies 20-30 min in.
Thank you for the reminder that great female characters have existed forever in cinema, especially in drama, scifi & horror. The Batwoman show was bad due to the writing period. Your essay was insightful for those who don't or have not explored classic cinema with well written female leads such as alien, aliens, or the long kiss goodnight. All of these female leads have agency of their own. Great reminder of the current state of female roles for women actors.
It's gotten so bad that if I even see a female lead on a poster for some movie/tv show I'm just straight up NOT watching it.
I write for a living and I genuinely don't even want to write female characters anymore due to all the feminists complaining about female characters and how men write them. It's always "sexualization" this, or "male gaze" that. Or "why does she need to be saved by a man" I'm tired. I just don't care anymore. I will not be writing or watching series with female characters. I'm done.
"The Americans," the TV series about a family of Russian spies living in Washington, D.C., (2013 - 2018) was my introduction to the blight of modern feminism. All the tropes were present: female superiority in spy craft (along with heavy doses of female victimhood); 'centering' the females' narrative, the daughter is innately superior to the son in spying, etc., But it was the hatred of men that really took it to a new level. In one particularly egregious example, a young man is slain in cold blood simply because he dared to politely proposition a young woman. In another, a paralyzed American guy bleeds to death on the floor while the Russian female spy gloats over his death.
Ironically, the young woman who played the innately-gifted-in-spy-craft daughter was not a good actress and was heavily criticized by viewers. So much for female innate competence.
This a great piece.
I see now that this problem runs mich deeper than i realised earlier thanks in part to you--thank you
Aliens Ripley is a perfect example of women with power. A great story and character to watch.
😠The Black widow movie is crap. Female taskmaster and all the black widows survive at the end. But all the men die and her mother who is responsible for everything gets off. 😡
I think if you want better representation of a lesbian Xena Warrior Princess is probably a good example. Xena respects men as equals even her male enemies. She had allot of flaws because she started out as warmonger then her character slowly started to develop into a sympathetic person and some of it was because of her relationship with Gabrielle. She tried to make up for the mistakes she made in her life. She joined forces with Hercules in the show and respect him as a friend. Back when this showed air allot of people really loved it and the actress that played her Lucy Lawless who by the way is 55 and looks still is a gorgeous woman.
There is a Soviet film "Seventeen Moments of Spring", which tells about a Soviet intelligence officer in Germany during the Second World War. The director is a woman - Tatiana Lioznova. Today, this multi-part film is a cult classic in the former Soviet republics. And no one was surprised or had a discussion about the fact that the film was shot by a woman.
Hollywood is just churning out propaganda at this point. Good (or even competent) storytelling be damned.
Hollywood has always been churning out propaganda.
2016 Ghostbusters created the holes and cracks in the boat. 2017's the Last Jedi further split these holes wide open, and here we are. All the loud pseudo-activism started with those 2 core movies.
My only concern is that modern movies nowadays inject toxic musculinity into female characters, if you ignore their genders and diversities and you'll see how bland and lazily written said characters are. A good writer can easily write something worthwhile all incorporating those aspects in the story not making it everything about said topic.
As a result most writers and media companies (looking at you Disney) just pander to "modern" audience, which ironically only attacks other movies but never depends those pandering them, while using double standards and diversity as a magical shield against criticism, constructive or otherwise.
Very well said. Subscribed!
Oh man this woman is awesome , thank you NerdWord !
My pleasure!
this is so nice.
Its like Cancer killing Aids.
Best chance to stop wasting time and money on movies and get your dreams ladies and gentlemen.
Subbed. Can’t wait to hear the rest of this series.
I have quite a few ideas, and I believe we may be in sync. Looking forward to hearing them
More and more I come to the conclusion that it´s not feminism or "wokeism" by itself that makes movies and series bad. It´s the bad storytelling that makes them bad. You don´t create a strong female character by just making all the male characters act like cretins. Like the german critic Reich-Ranicki put it many years ago: "You can always describe men as horrible creatures. But as an author you have to be able to do so."
2011 The Thing. Early protowoke. I didn’t see it at the time. Thought it was just a bad movie. It was sneaking up.
Batwoman had 3 seasons, unfortunately...
On your intro: It's the beginning of the end that has begun years ago: The end of me paying money for visual entertainment like movies from the USA. They aren't worth it...
We have our own, non-propaganda movie industry in Europe... 😉
Your video is 100% accurate and I very much appreciate it. I'm going to take a look at your channel and see if you've discussed the DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) policies in Hollywood, if you haven't talk about this yet you totally should, and if you have I look foward to seeing your video on it. DEI is going to marginalize everyone based on race and orientation, some writers won't be allowed to write certain stories if they're not of a particular race, as well as having ideas like "male and pale is stale."
You are so in touch with modern culture. i only wish someone like you were over Disney or Lucasfilm.
Why does modern Hollywood think that movies change minds? Ok, minds, views, attitudes, beliefs, convictions?
I've read a metric shad-load of material on psych, attitude formation, political and consumer behavior.
And at no point does the river flow from movie to attitude. Nowhere. It flows from culture to politics, thru zeitgeist, fashion, peer influence and so on. Hollywood evidently thinks that they are not in the movie biz, they are in doctrine, and sermons.
Think of it this way: where is the evidence that putting Sam Wilson in Cap America garb is good for real world representation, race relations, social harmony, redress and balance, or some other socio-political outcome? What did Ms Marvel do for the social position of Pakistan's girls and women? The answer is nothing, and it is absurd to think that it would. Bc how could it?
'Lets take everything away from our sons'? Sounds pretty hateful to me.
And whats worse is that none of these boss chicks are challenged or held accountable. If male characters have everything come so easy, they would feel just as boring to watch.
Believe it or not, most movies with The Rock get boring af. I mean, look at Predator vs any Fast and Furious movie with Dwayne Johnson. Arnold, the freaking Terminator gets his a*s handed to him by the giant killer alien. He eventually starts to look as weak, small and vulnerable as Bruce Willis.
The Rock is never made vulnerable in his movies. Its even in his contract. That is sooo boring. But when Arnold victors over the Predator, its so much more satisfying. That is the fulfillment of drama and tension that modern storytellers dont understand
"Hollywood is a sewer with service from the Ritz Carlton." Wilson Mizner
I just have to say this about female villains in general... by making them all victims, you're also making them all weak. I miss the days when villains, regardless of gender, were evil by choice and took great pride in their villainy. Because of that, some of them even won in the end. In contrast, sympathetic villains merited true sympathy and were fleshed out as being more than just the trauma. And the best part was, it was naturally egalitarian. We even have diverse villains who could be who they were without making everything about their skin colour, religion, etc. And I liked that because back then, everyone really was equal by way of their character. Like Eric July said: equality is a side effect of putting quality first.
2015? Look back at 2012. That was the year Marvel rebranded Carol Danvers from the blond, super-hot (and a bit feminist) air-force pilot Ms. Marvel into the manly, breastless, VERY feminist Captain Marvel. This wasn't just a new look for the character, or an excuse to give the character a new #1 issue. This was part of a campaign to make her the "Superman" of the Marvel universe - the most powerful, most popular, most looked-up to, most inspirational character that all the other heroes would look up to instead of that patriotic old boy scout Captain America (right when the Captain America movie and Avengers made Cap more popular than he had been since 1940 - and arguably even MORE popular than ever). For the next DECADE she couldn't appear in a book without "the most powerful and popular superhero in the world" (or some variation thereof) in a narration balloon on the panel (I can only guess in the hopes that Marvel readers would eventually buy into it - spoiler warning: the didn't) and a slew (very diverse) of Captain Marvel fans trying to take selfies with her. Marvel followed this up in 2013 by introducing Kamalah Kahn (who would become Ms. Marvel at the beginning of 2014) and be Captain Marvel's in-universe fan-girl (an just like Captain Marvel was supposed to replace Captain America as the head of the Marvel Universe, the new Ms. Marvel was supposed to replace Spider-man as the heart of the Marvel universe - and was perfectly representative of the new audience Marvel was gunning for: that is, not white, not male). This was the first step in the lead up to the 2017 "All New, All Different Marvel" campaign that essentially race and gender swapped virtually all of Marvels a and b-list characters.
2012 was also the year of the "Sad Puppy" revolt in which sci-fi authors and fans began protesting at the Hugo awards the organizer's tendency to overlook stories and writers that didn't feature women of color coming of the closet.
But this wasn't going on in Hollywood, quite yet. This was in the Publishing Industry which had been obsessed with "representation" and "correcting historical inequities" and hating all things conservative since the 1990s.
What makes 2015 stand out is because that's when a certain New York property mogul-turned-politician had the audacity to challenge the First Female President in Waiting, threw his hat into the presidential candidacy ring, and garnered a groundswell of support, and then WON - in spite of being so obviously evil and bad and evil and racist (and did I mention evil and racist?) that Hollywood had to make EVERYTHING some sort of commentary on him and the people who voted for him. In other words, it would be the first stirring of what would come to be called Trump Derangement Syndrome. You could see this especially in the 2016 all female Ghostbusters. They literally promoted this movie with people tweeting and the press claiming that "if you don't watch this movie, you're a fascist, sexist Trump supporter! Go Hillary!"
But TDS wasn't just a reaction against one politician. In 2015 the Obergefell decision imposed gay marriage on the country. The left thought they had, at that point, essentially won the culture war. Obamacare had America well on the road to socializing health care, the Paris Accords promised to use control of carbon and energy as a way to micromanage every aspect of the American economy and American's lives and erase American sovereignty to unelected international organizations, and now the institution of marriage was essentially devoid of meaning. It was at this point that the "T" was added to the "LGB" because they no longer needed the "born that way" argument to sell homosexual marriage to the public. Now that "marriage" was devoid of meaning, they undertook to make "woman" and "man" devoid of meaning, too. States were already passing laws forbidding treating homosexual attraction as a psychological disorder and now sexual dysphoria would be treated not as a psychological condition to be treated, but, like "gay," an "identity" to be celebrated.
They were even starting to talk about "re-education camps" for those pesky "bitter clingers" and stripping the tax exempt status from any and every church or synagogue that wouldn't host a gay marriage. (Not mosques, though - they were still, as a "marginalized" religion, exempt from the coercion Christian churches were to be targeted with - and they voted democrat, too.)
Trump showing up and winning made them realize that the culture war they thought was over and won, wasn't over at all. And not only was it not over, their favorite never-fail strategy was no longer working. They were realizing that a huge swath of the American public was now immune to the old "Just call 'em racist and they'll duck and cover and let you do whatever you want" strategy the Democrats had used to keep those annoying republicans (especially the elected ones) in their place.
You are wrong about so many things. I see you have a lot of anger in you. Maybe you can start working on that?
@@wisehippo3072 You sound rather like the Emperor about to try and turn Luke to the Dark Side.
I'm wrong? Oh, the Sad Puppies were at the Nebulas instead of the Hugos? Or was I off about Ms. Marvel #1 being in February 2014?
I'm angry? No, all the anger is in the now young thirty-somethings who were the twenty-somethings falling to their knees and screaming their lungs out over Trump winning in 2016.
@@liljenborg2517 KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT, FAR-RIGHT NUTTER.
Let the market decide.
And yet, with all this feminism, not a single one will speak up about men cosplaying as women and playing in their sports, taking away their opportunities. Imagine the goodwill and support that "feminism" would get for a change if they actually stood and fought for a common sense cause like this. Wouldn't they shed a bit of their negative image they have?
The only mistake author George Orwell made with his novel *1984* was setting it about 30 years too early.
I'm separated from the mother of my 9 years old.
Recently we have been watching some Marvel. I choose the one that she can watch.
We have been watching Ant-man.
The film where a dad is told that if he pays child maintenamce he will be a good dad and allowed to see his little girl. "Pay to see your child and I will convince her that you are a good dad!"
While the mother is in couple, have a nice little house and new husband with money and the dad of her daughter have none.
The way society tell us how to be a father is: sacrifice all you have, if your couple doesnt work it is your fault and you can't rebuild yourself after it breaks down.
Then there is that scene where ant man watch his baby girl sleeping and give her a kiss in her forehead.
When i was watching that scene with my daughter she smiled at me and said: "That's why you always give me a kiss in my hair before I fall asleep"
I ised to find antman the most "meh" marvel but now, I just see it dofferently. The guy literally do all the things he does for his daughter. All the goals in that movie are for his little girl.
Because, in modern feminism we forgot that men suffer the same as a woman when their children are taken away from them.
BTW, I went to court twice. Once adter my ex decided that i should only see my daughter every other Sunday. I then pay a lot of maintenance and im sure that her goal was the wellbeing of my daughter, not more money from Child maintenance.
I then had an order for a nearly 50/50. Then after my ex breached the order 6 times I went back for a 50/50.
All the moms at my daughter's school refuse to speak to me, Im the weirdo and abusive ex for whatever reason, but you know what, I don't care.
I know what I'm giving to my little girl.
I'm my iwn version of Ant-man, without the suit and will probably stay single for the rest of my life because money is thight.
Last thing, I'm not in the US of anyone wonder how I managed to have a shared residency 50/50. I know it is hard in the US...
Leia is a PRINCESS!!
Even as a child, she would be accustomed to "bossing adults around" if the grown ups are not nobles or high ranking officials.
Obi-Wan presented himself to Leia as a nobody from nowhere, not a former Jedi Master and a top general of The Clone Wars.
Okay, so you CLEARLY know neither the character of her parents nor how royalty historically or today handles their kids. Leia would NOT understand the concept of bossing people around because she would NEVER actually have an opportunity to do it at that age. Kids don’t tell servants what to do in households where their parents care about them (and Leia’s clearly care about her). That would be a far too easy way to circumvent parental rules. The servants get instructions from the kid’s parents. And NO ONE tells the security forces what to do except for other security forces, and Obi-Wan in this case would be a bodyguard. At this age, Leia SHOULD be very used to listening to adults while maybe being a bit more intelligent than average. That’s about it.
@@John-fk2ky You have CLEARLY forgotten that we are referring to a galaxy with Kings and Queens of entire planets that can be adolescents. Amidala was Queen of Naboo at age 14, and she said that she wasn't the youngest person to ever rule.
If all the systems of the Republic were willing to recognize children as world leaders, then I am sure Prince and Princess have a bit of above average stroke to get what they want from The Help.
I am not suggesting that Leia was "bossing adults around" like she was actually in charge of hiring and firing the employees. Instead, I am suggesting that she came from a high level of privilege and notoriety. She would be accustomed to doing what she wanted and getting what she wanted with a minimum of push back.
Think about Uncle Phil's kids' relationship to their butler in the original Fresh Prince Of Bel Air series. The butler could offer a snarky remark here and there, but when one of the kids asked the butler to do something, then the butler would do it. Something needs cleaning? He does it.
Something needs fixing? He sees to it.
Something needs to be replaced? He finds it.
Something needs to be confidential? He silences it.
That is how people of privilege live and people of royal stature live even higher on the hogs. The common folks would have mostly likely offer even less push back toward the social elite (if they knew what was good for them).
I am sure Leia had a very similar experience growing up on Alderean. She was very accustomed to getting her way with people beneath her. Obi-Wan presented himself as someone beneath her, so she interacted with him accordingly.
By the way, "bossing adults around" was stated by the host. I use the quote as a reference to the matter in question.
Just want to say I really appreciate your videos. 😊
Fantastic video. Please make more.
You're not wrong. The main reason why modern female characters are not even remotely as interesting as male ones is that they are not allowed to suffer, deal with consequences, or even get injured outside of horror movies.
There are a few exceptions like my own works, but it's not all that common.
I love my dvd/blu-ray collection. WELL WRITTEN shows!
The way I see it, its the late '50s again and the Hollywood system is burning down.....again!! GOOD! The last time this happened, we got the AMERICAN NEW WAVE film movement (Mean Streets, Bonnie & Clyde, Taxi Driver, MASH, Easy Rider, Killing of a Chinese Bookie, 2001 Space Odyssey, etc) which was inspired by the European New Wave. So although it might take awhile, I'm excited for whats next!!
agreed
The legacy characters have been so disrespected as well as the fans. Leia was an iconic real feminine hero. She could fight, be diplomatic and was beautiful . The woke version is a woman trying to be a man and trying to elevate themselves by denigrating the male characters.
"I don't wanna be like Cinderella sitting in a dark old dusty cellar waiting for somebody to come and set me free" is a lyric from the Cheeta girls song way back in the day and ut has always stuck with me until I thought about why a few years ago. It's a lie. A boldfaced lie.
The destruction of the Disney princess is what triggered my awakening to the agenda push. It was the most insidious one because people went along with it for years. Whatever female empowerment was, it was not a Disney princess, except for Mulan (but her live action remake showed the powers that be hated her too). I realized these people only viewed strong women in terms of overwhelming physical strength. In terms of harshness, stoicism, promiscuity, and rage. One of my favorite female characters is Jang Geum from the kdrama Jewel in the Palace (note: I never used sex/race as a distinguisher for characters until I had to organize my thoughts on this nonsense). She was one of many types of "strong" "female" "characters" for me. She never wielded a sword, she never used the wrongs done to her as justification for being nasty, in fact, she tried to not sink to the level of the ones wishing her ruin. She asked for help and accepted help when needed. And I swear to god, never in my life has a romance arc with a male lead been so wonderfully written. A hand holding in this thing had the weight of first kiss in other romances because the stakes of such a seemingly meaningless act was built up with each episode, each interaction. You need to understand how strict class division rules were back then to understand just how momentous this scene is. You can't watch this thing halfheartedly you need to get lost in it.... What the heck wass I talking about again?
Oh yeah, feminism destroying the mediums entertainment I adore. Like, all of them. Comics, games, movies, shows-hell, that budlight fiasco proved they're ruining brands too. Modern femism isn't about female empowerment, it's about male subjugation. Tbh, I think this has always been the case and we just happened to get some rights out of it.
Pandering was always a small virus within American society. It was just too subtle that when it occurred it wasn’t bragged about for audience to complain. Those who noticed, noticed. Those who didn’t, didn’t. And the movie was praised or banned for what it was.
Billy Dee Williams was cast as Harvey Dent back in the 80’s. WB didn’t say “so Billy Dee Williams will be the first black Batman villain”. People were more upset with Michael Keaton. But the movie is a hit and an icon to some. Now imagine if that movie was released today. WB would have a different marketing approach.
It all began in 2009 in my opinion with the show Glee. The show that it was all about singing your insecurities and how beautiful you are. Also Obama came to office and pretty much amplified the same messages from a political stage. And it went down hill ever since. Social Media just connected many of the normies whom don’t watch many of those shows they just want to feel “represented”. And all they screamed at was their desires and their shipping (demanding one character to fall in love with another character…or else) And for stupid reason, companies make the one mistake (which they keep doing for decades) they assume the loud few are the ones who have the power to cut off or make revenues. That when the pandering became a game for them.
CW now brags about their “firsts”. First female lesbian. First so and so person of color.
Disney…the bedrock of capitalism just made it their game because Bob Iger believed that Disney need to expand aside from using existing IP. Hence their buying rights of everything they can get their hands on. From Star Wars to the Marvels comics. And the pandering to loud normies.
Hollywood & everything else
Bravo well said.
A lot of "Feminist" (Whatever lol) don't realize that Most Men, especially my age, 45, have certain Female characters they are MEMORIALIZED. A lot of us, if given the opportunity, in a video game for example, WILL PLAY THE FEMALE CHARACTER. It's so Cool to take a BADASS Female Character and KICK ASS WITH HER. For me JILL VALENTINE is THE GOAT OF ALL VIDEO GAME CHARACTERS. Lol i NEVER PLAYED Chris Redfield🤷🏾♂️. RE3 is my favorite, and the way they re did her in the remake AND Death Island was ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. She was NOT to be fucked with. EARNED BADASSERY progression wise, but the MORE you play you're like, "SHE WAS BADASS THE WHOLE TIME", and i had the chance to experience that.
I absolutely hate modern cinema for what they have done to modern movies. The characters are 2 dimensional & the lead characters are obnoxious.
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Good video
Well said lady.
What is the reason for all the fan hating lately?a belief or speculation that all these diverse groups have more money to spend?
This generation of feminism is just power fantasy at this point, I like the way got handled women in the beginning or the show, they were mostly no good in battle except for aria stark ( who had to go through a rough road to earn that) and the dragon lady who well had 3 fucking dragons, but the women in that show understand that they’re power is different to a man’s, they understand that they’re influence is they’re power, they can charm and trick men into getting what they wanted and that’s basically real life, men are slaves to their second head and women can get what ever they want from us by realizing that (which every woman) does and using that to their advantage’s, now we got power girl scaring thanos with her “raw strength” it’s so stupid
See, I started noticing this shit AAAAAALLLLLL the way back I. legend of Korra.
TLJ followed Korea’s template. I didn’t know what to call it at the time, except bad writing.
I hated the Batwoman series. I only liked the villains of the series.
It's complicated I am sure, but I think it may be Disney's knee-jerk reaction to millions of internet comments. 2015-2018 was when the internet was lighting up with reactions to the Me-Too movement and Oscars-so-white, and let's not forget that Trump won in late 2016 which changed the course of American morality and condoned the rise of nationalist racism and misogyny. These ideas/reactions were REALLY pushed hard online and it would have been difficult to miss by Hollywood. Whether or not this kind of writing afterwards is a pandering direct response to that is unknown, but it sure seems like it. Just like in politics, we may want to blame the candidates but we should probably be looking at the voters.
Holy-Wood will reap their bad choices.
I agree
Perfect 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
As a woman and a feminist the state of entertainment makes me sick. The current crop of movies and shows are setting back the cause.
I feel sorry for proper feminists, because the ideology was about women getting the same chances and treatment as men and not getting shoved to the side just because they're women. But the people in Hollywood claiming to be feminists aren't interested in that. They want to be told they're better than men. That they're smarter, stronger, tougher, and just better in every way.
Instead of equality, these women just want to be on top of the pile to satisfy their own egos. And because of that, they are actively hurting regular women.
The cause ceased to have a reason to be a cause long ago. You got everything at legal equality literally DECADES ago. Your collective failure to recognize this brought on the current mess.