What do you mean true narcissist? If my understanding of the term is correct, they’re incredibly selfish, rarely consider how things affect others, and will actively harm others if it helps them in some way or makes them appear better. The ones I’ve met and known aren’t good at hiding it at all. The only way they’re good at hiding is through technicality. They love taking hyper specific jabs at people so when the story is recalled after they push someone to beating their ass, they can cry wolf. Then they feel superior because even though they started it and then acted like a pussy after, in their mind they controlled you.
Merle didn't deserve to die the way he did. We were just getting to see his redemption only to be snatched away immediately. I am somewhat biased though because he was my favorite character for the few episodes he appeared in.
In the series, when Merle was arguing with Daryl in the woods, it comes out that Merle and Daryl were severely beaten and abused as kids by their father.
Rick and the gang also gunned down a bunch of the governors men in the attack on Woodbury and when Merle attacked them a 2nd time killing 8’men so all together around 20+ of the govs soldiers were dead b4 the gov lost it and just killed the rest of the civilians cuz they couldn’t fight like his old friends
The Governor really won prize for “asshole of the year award” at the end. Even after all the harm the Governor caused Rick’s group, at the end, Rick swallowed his hate and stretched out his hand with a peaceful resolution that would’ve saved both groups. If Philip really wanted to see his group survive as he claims, he’d swallow his pride and accept the deal. But no, he just can’t get past his ego and personal feelings, and attacks, getting most killed. It kinda annoys me that Carl is so mad at Rick afterwards. Why? Rick did everything he could to prevent the fight and showed Philip a lot more mercy than Philip deserved and it was Philip alone who chose the violent attack anyway when it so easily could’ve been avoided. As I said - Philip - “prize winning asshole.”
I wish the governor was a little more ruthless like he was in the comics. The revenge michonne gets on him is one of my favorite parts of the governor arc. Also the whole reason Rick loses a hand. Pretty decent in the show though
I disagree. Comic governor was waaaaay too cartoonishly evil for me. Especially right after we had the prisoners. Show governor seemed much more charismatic then the comics imo
Fun fact they were actually gonna do the whole Governor/Michonne comic story but David Morrissey (the actor for the Governor) didn’t feel comfortable doing the scene so they cut it
@@carmenlynn5441I agree. I’ll say tho it is satisfying that in the comics Michone cuts off his wiener but yeah he’s like over the top in the comics and I can’t imagine that would bode over well in television. HBO could’ve but not AMC 😂
The governor is the the dark version of Rick grimes. While Rick had his wife, son, and friends during the apocalypse, the governor had lost his family and had no real friends, just subordinates. He had to pretend to be someone else to be able to establish any relationships with others. People who saw his real self were very fearful and fell in line. The governor relied on being a monster because being the monster was his power so he couldn’t let go of that. He murdered other survivors in cold blood because he didnt want outsiders to live and because he wanted their resources. He represented what Rick would’ve easily become if Rick decided not to care anymore. Completely opposite of Rick who does things for the good of the people around him and only showed his brutality to protect his group. Who also established real meaningful relationships with those in his group. The governor had nobody truly because he only cared for his own gains, while Rick actually stepped down as a leader even though others wanted him to lead because ricks group had genuine likeness and respect, whereas the governor, people followed him out of fear and he even murdered Martinez and Pete for leadership because of his ego. Philip even mirrored Rick in presentation. Button up shirt with sleeves rolled up and tucked in, watch on left wrist, southern accent, both are leaders with a Dixon and a third guy as right hand men, cowboy boots and signature sidearms.
No he is not. Rick would never ruthlessly slaughter his entire community in a fit of rage for not wanting to fight for him. Not matter if he had lost Lori & Carl, he would never have done it. Governor is not a good guy, he never was. He’s not supposed to be a dark version of Rick Grimes. That was literally Shane. Are we watching the same show man?
@@Clayman-rc8db I never said rick is a bad guy. I said the governor represents the path Rick would’ve gone down if he decided not to care for anyone but himself. I said the governor is the guy to murder in cold blood not rick. I literally said the governor is the dark version of rick in my opening sentence. I didn’t say Rick was the bad guy. I don’t know how my comment was misunderstood.
@@Clayman-rc8dbshane isn’t Dark rick, he is future rick. Rick does just as bad things as shane if not worse and he also violates a marriage by sleeping with that married woman in Alexandria so shane is literally the same as rick, not a darker version. The governor is a darker version like what the original comment said…
@@rigo-mmathat married woman’s husband was dead and her late husband was beating on her before he snapped, murdered the leader’s husband, and then got his brains blown out by Rick. He made his move after that.
I really enjoyed this video! Your analysis on The Governor's story was spot on and shows how much a man can adapt to the crumble of society. TV show Governor has a great overall story and background, which is why I liked the character so much. The end of his story was fitting since he could have all been avoided if he didn't want revenge so badly. Can't wait until the next video!
Thank you so much! The show really took its time letting us get to know him, which I think makes for a more intimate story rather than the comics, where he’s just insane the whole time
The final attack on the prison was super boring and unrealistic. 40 people from Woodberry died and I can't remember one of the prison group dying. Plotarmor be real
@@mrgrass1232it was a few more then 2 but off screen but yea those were the civilians anyway because remember Rick and the gang plus Merle’s attack led to the death of all the govs soldiers and they were the fighters without them around to fight is one of the main reasons the gov lost that first fight the civs weren’t ready for combat like Rick and nem😂💯
I've always been suspicious of the Governor and how Lilly's father died. It was just too convenient that the oxygen just didn't work and I always felt like the Governor either sabotaged it or leaked most of the oxygen out. He'd have a 'heroic excuse' to have the family under his thumb and show him to be a trustworthy and sympathetic guy, while getting rid of a certain person holding the family in place.
"I know how the safety works!" It's a revolver Andrea, it doesnt have one! And then the gun shot and spent round bouncing...which also wouldn't happen with a revolver 🤪
While mostly right, saying that it doesnt have a safety just because its a revolver isnt. Plenty of revolvers have safeties just not really a heavy priorized feature on something with a 6 plus pound da trigger
The comment about the safety is a callback to Season 1/2 when Dale didn’t think she knew how to handle a gun and Shane was training her, not the specific gun she was holding . It was meant to be a wistful, bittersweet joke.
Yeah it was a inside joke between Rick and Andrea, I actually loved that line. When they first meet in the store, she points a gun at him. she then apologizes and Rick says she had the safety on lol. When Amy dies and Rick tries to console her, she points the gun again, this time saying "I know how the safety works" calling back to Rick's advice, and lastly when she dies he gives her the gun and she says the same thing. It was a neat little call back.
One of the scariest details that most people miss about the torture room is that on the table there is a metal speculum. The same kind of metal speculum used for vaginal exams.
The governor from the show and the one in the comics and road to woodbury books are completely different characters... The governor from the show is definitely more like the brother of the governor in the books (who was also named Phillip).
I wish they followed through Andrea’s arc with her becoming Woodbury’s new leader. You can see the beginning of her taking more of a leadership position in Woodbury with her calming down the scared citizens and taking out the walkers infiltrating the city streets.
I'm glad they killed her off. They butchered one of the best characters from the comics. She was the anti Shane. Where the show fleshed him out better than the books, Andrea got dumber and wasted.
"When the Governor returns, he's gonna kill me first. Michonne, my brother, then your girls. Glenn, Carl, the baby, whoever else is left. He'll save Rick for last so he can watch his family and friends die ugly. That's who you're dealing with."
I truly don't understand why the fact that governor kept his dead daughter in the office is so bad. In season 2, when Rick and the team where on the farm, dead relatives have been also kept in the separate house and fed. That act is usually interpreted as mercy, but why this one is bad?! It has always been a question for me.
Hershel had come around to see keeping them around was wrong. The reason it’s seen that way, is because they don’t truly know what is left inside. Even if .1% of the person is still inside, it could be seen as torture to leave them alive. Michonne was of this belief, that’s why she kept her boyfriend as the pet, as punishment for him, and herself.
There is something way more sinister how governor does it. Hes very unhinged man still managing to keep mask on publicly. Hesrshel kept walkers out of pure compassion at that point he didnt understand what really was going on, and he thought they are just sick people that maybe one day comes cure, but Shane showed him they are not people anymore, and that snapped him to the reality of the situation
@@lalli8152 well the governor is a bit like hearshel in that sense but also the governor was just in denial, he wasn’t really a sick man at first, he had just lost everything, his wife and daughter, but he didn’t want that do be true. Once his walker daughter was killed he lost everything and only cared about getting revenge
Did anyone else notice the empty casing hit the floor and echoing right after Andrea is shot by Michonne? I didn't know that Rick's python was a semi automatic, lol 😂 Good old walking dead sound effects in the first seasons. Also, Carl's baseball bat aluminum suppressor on the end of that Beretta M9 was pretty awesome as well
As for twd show he is my favorite villain Although i really like Negan as a character, i know his redemption isnt realistic at all, so it has to knock him down a notch.
Merle is one of the interesting character and his death have put a big crack in me watching Daryl crying as he only got so less time with his brother after they separated
I always found it funny that people find Governor arc Michone as being annoying because she's antagonistic to the obviously bad guys, the lady's got survival instincts, a bullshit detector and she's obviously not well "socialized" those days. That version of Michone is hands down my fav in the series, followed closely by first season Glen, first/second season Rick, Shane, Merle and every second of good ol' papa Greene.
Cool video of the governor, back then while I was 12 , used to watch the walking dead with my sister, to me I always thought that the governor was the bigger individual in the show . But he’s really an iconic villain in the series like this dude had all the package .
I guess my one argument is when the person who saved you & kept you alive for months (Michonne) says something is wrong with this town, why don’t you listen?! Then when she didn’t kill the Governor in his sleep, I lost all respect for her.
Merle was calling back to god when he was "bagging" on the roof in s1, i don't think so he had nearly as much time he needed as he deserved, everyone felt he was taken out too early, i mean he was only alive for 2 episodes in s1 and 12 in s3 which really underusing character, not counting every and each episode of screentime it is even lower. It is sad, he deserved to be atleast shown to the end of s6 Martinez was killed by him because he didn't want to be leader again, to make other atrocities happen (showing broken persona), as Martinez said : Maybe we can share the *crown* a little. Also screaming *I don't want, I don't want it* (he was trying to become changed man, but he knows that true leader would never ask to share the crown, otherwise it would show his incompetence.
The governor was one of the best villains. He gave just enough away to feel dread but he was also sympathetic because of his daughter. I thought he was great.
Love this video on my favorite walking dead character! Also like your camera work for when you're talking, the way it's placed behind your head with the green lights. Gonna subscribe due to you having so many walking dead videos!
There’s a lot of plot holes in terms of how the infection can spread like for one example michonne stabbing the governor in the eye with Walker tainted water, wouldn’t it infect him with the virus?
Yeah you’re 100% right. That’s just one of those things you gotta suspend your disbelief for. It wouldn’t have been as big a deal if they didn’t have the saviours weaponize it in season 8
I was under the impression his name was not really Philip? I thought he stole his brother’s name, because he wasn’t proud of anything? I could be wrong.
In the comics Yes. But No in the series. In the series Phillip was his real name and he took the name Brian from some name on a wall when he was marching through some wasteland after losing the Woodberry. It's a pity that the guy didn't fix himself then because he had a chance with this new family and new identity. He tried to change at the beginning but eventually he started doing what he had done before, although whether he would be as angry as before if he had this new family with him is a moot point.
Didn't The Governor have a brother in the novel Rise of the Governor? It's been a long time since I read it but from what I can remember is that Penny was actually his niece and Philip Blake/ The Governor was actually the younger brother Brian and he assumes Philip's identity after Philip is killed in the novel.
You’re correct, but the novels follow the comic continuity which is different. I’m the show, penny’s his daughter, and from what I remember Philip never even mentions a brother
@@DrakeSmith-tn6ij abused children usually grow up with those traumas and either they become better people or they become worse than the person that abused them
I’m 100% gonna be covering the ones who live! The others I’m gonna get around to but I enjoy doing videos on specific arks and characters, rather than whole seasons. But who knows!
Andrea was an idiot the entire show. She almost killed darrel, continuously created social issues and she not only picked the governor to followbut shane even before that. Two murdering cowards who are not above hurting women and children for personal gain. Not only was she incapable and weak at the beginning but even after she became proficient at killing she stayed stupid. Until the bitter end.
Safety and power. The Prison was built better to keep zombies out than a town. More land for farming in a safe area. The cell blocks could house more people, hold more storage. Power aspect, setting would help tear down followers' sense of individuality. Easy to lock up to anyone who questioned his authority.
It always pissed me off Andrea stopped Michonne from killing the Governor. She could have stopped the raid on the prison and the death of Hershel. Ugggh. Honestly, I just couldn't stand Andrea this entire season.
What’s weird to me is we all seem to judge socio/psychopaths heavily. But…we all respond differently to trauma. If we lost everyone we cared about, who’s to say we’d be any different than they would? I know we all think we wouldn’t, but how do we know? Edit: yes, I’m aware they’re a threat. Of course they are. I’m not saying to pretend otherwise.
you're right, if a dude has human heads for TV I'm gonna reconsider if I'm being a meanie weanie to him and consider that he may just respond differently 🎉
@@Shannon-vv6rr learn how to read. I didn’t say they weren’t a threat. And they should be treated as such. But guess what? Most of the ones on tv are deeply traumatized individuals. Let’s see how you respond to that. I have a feeling you’ll be a little bit of a “meanie weanie” yourself. Are you suggesting we immediately go nuclear the second you are?
Watching this makes you wonder what it would have been like if Glen Mazzara didn't choose to kill off Andrea. Like would Carol still end up being the same person she became as the seasons went on and would Andrea became more similar to how she was in comics?
Much more interesting than Negan because Negan was still a normal person before the outbreak happened, but it seems like the Governor was a time bomb and the outbreak made it worse.
Cool video. However, Penny was killed pre woodbury and Philip survived with his brother Brian and Philip's friends Bobby and Nick. Rise Of The Governor is the backstory of the comics version of this character, and the show version experienced a similar version of that backstory. Penny was a walker when he arrived at Woodbury, my theory is that he killed his brother after Brian tried to prevent Philip from feeding someone to Penny, whom Philip believed to still be alive.
@@Swell-Films In s3, Michonne sees the names Brian, Bobby and Nick in Philips notebook. Also on a previous there was a note about sending an email, so that confirmed that he wasn't at Woodbury when the apocalypse began.
Actually Brian killed Phillip and took Philips persona in the book. He's not even the real mean tough brother he was weak and scared until he took over his younger brothers persona
@@householdgambler That happens in the comics universe, however the governor in the show universe is Philip Blake. Penny is his daughter, and the photo that he has of his family proves that.
Governor: 50% Jim Jones, 50% abusive husband type. Its cool that Carols the one that told Andrea to kill him because she knows his "brand" of monster when she sees one. I feel like the people who despise Andrea are ridiculous types that will blame the woman for not leaving a man like him who has his claws in her
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He reminds me of a true narcissist. They're great at covering up their real colors like he did with that woman towards the end.
His lack of reaction to his new surrogate daughters death was chilling, and very much mask off
What do you mean true narcissist? If my understanding of the term is correct, they’re incredibly selfish, rarely consider how things affect others, and will actively harm others if it helps them in some way or makes them appear better. The ones I’ve met and known aren’t good at hiding it at all. The only way they’re good at hiding is through technicality. They love taking hyper specific jabs at people so when the story is recalled after they push someone to beating their ass, they can cry wolf. Then they feel superior because even though they started it and then acted like a pussy after, in their mind they controlled you.
his actor did a really good job
Merle didn't deserve to die the way he did. We were just getting to see his redemption only to be snatched away immediately. I am somewhat biased though because he was my favorite character for the few episodes he appeared in.
There was no arc to his story that’s the point. There was a beginning and an end but just like people that doesn’t entail what’s gonna happen
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The show kills off characters for shock value also did it to beth, but keeps garbage characters like tara tv carl morgan etc..
@@IIIISaitara died in the whisper arc
@@IIIISai tv Carl was a garbage character I agree
In the series, when Merle was arguing with Daryl in the woods, it comes out that Merle and Daryl were severely beaten and abused as kids by their father.
Deaths in the war against the Governor: Oscar, Axel, Merle, Milton, Andrea, Hershel.
He also shot his own men in cold blood.
@@abramsullivan7764man really went insane
Rick and the gang also gunned down a bunch of the governors men in the attack on Woodbury and when Merle attacked them a 2nd time killing 8’men so all together around 20+ of the govs soldiers were dead b4 the gov lost it and just killed the rest of the civilians cuz they couldn’t fight like his old friends
Shumpert and Martinez also died because of what the governor did
Bob adams aswell
Your narration and visuals are on par with professional documentaries. This is fantastic work, brother.
Thank you so much! They’re really fun to make so I’m glad people enjoy them!
@@Swell-Films Hoping you grow.
The Governor really won prize for “asshole of the year award” at the end. Even after all the harm the Governor caused Rick’s group, at the end, Rick swallowed his hate and stretched out his hand with a peaceful resolution that would’ve saved both groups. If Philip really wanted to see his group survive as he claims, he’d swallow his pride and accept the deal. But no, he just can’t get past his ego and personal feelings, and attacks, getting most killed. It kinda annoys me that Carl is so mad at Rick afterwards. Why? Rick did everything he could to prevent the fight and showed Philip a lot more mercy than Philip deserved and it was Philip alone who chose the violent attack anyway when it so easily could’ve been avoided. As I said - Philip - “prize winning asshole.”
I wish the governor was a little more ruthless like he was in the comics. The revenge michonne gets on him is one of my favorite parts of the governor arc. Also the whole reason Rick loses a hand. Pretty decent in the show though
I disagree. Comic governor was waaaaay too cartoonishly evil for me. Especially right after we had the prisoners.
Show governor seemed much more charismatic then the comics imo
Fun fact they were actually gonna do the whole Governor/Michonne comic story but David Morrissey (the actor for the Governor) didn’t feel comfortable doing the scene so they cut it
Idk I think the every-man disposition in Tv governor makes him scarier, comic gov was just a comic villan
Show Governor just works better because is the kind of guy one would follow in an apocalypse@@connorwilson1349
@@carmenlynn5441I agree. I’ll say tho it is satisfying that in the comics Michone cuts off his wiener but yeah he’s like over the top in the comics and I can’t imagine that would bode over well in television. HBO could’ve but not AMC 😂
Such a crime to give merl that sweet ass winter soldier arm and than kill em off..not to mention hes just a dope character and rooker kills it..
So true. But his character ark is so well done that I’m ok with it.
Got to admit it ended in a great spot tho
My personal favorite Walking Dead villian. I just love how manipulative and charming he is while also being completely sinister.
The best. I never cared for Negan.
The governor is the the dark version of Rick grimes. While Rick had his wife, son, and friends during the apocalypse, the governor had lost his family and had no real friends, just subordinates. He had to pretend to be someone else to be able to establish any relationships with others. People who saw his real self were very fearful and fell in line. The governor relied on being a monster because being the monster was his power so he couldn’t let go of that. He murdered other survivors in cold blood because he didnt want outsiders to live and because he wanted their resources. He represented what Rick would’ve easily become if Rick decided not to care anymore. Completely opposite of Rick who does things for the good of the people around him and only showed his brutality to protect his group. Who also established real meaningful relationships with those in his group. The governor had nobody truly because he only cared for his own gains, while Rick actually stepped down as a leader even though others wanted him to lead because ricks group had genuine likeness and respect, whereas the governor, people followed him out of fear and he even murdered Martinez and Pete for leadership because of his ego. Philip even mirrored Rick in presentation. Button up shirt with sleeves rolled up and tucked in, watch on left wrist, southern accent, both are leaders with a Dixon and a third guy as right hand men, cowboy boots and signature sidearms.
No he is not. Rick would never ruthlessly slaughter his entire community in a fit of rage for not wanting to fight for him. Not matter if he had lost Lori & Carl, he would never have done it. Governor is not a good guy, he never was. He’s not supposed to be a dark version of Rick Grimes. That was literally Shane. Are we watching the same show man?
Rick would never SA a woman
@@Clayman-rc8db I never said rick is a bad guy. I said the governor represents the path Rick would’ve gone down if he decided not to care for anyone but himself. I said the governor is the guy to murder in cold blood not rick. I literally said the governor is the dark version of rick in my opening sentence. I didn’t say Rick was the bad guy. I don’t know how my comment was misunderstood.
@@Clayman-rc8dbshane isn’t Dark rick, he is future rick. Rick does just as bad things as shane if not worse and he also violates a marriage by sleeping with that married woman in Alexandria so shane is literally the same as rick, not a darker version. The governor is a darker version like what the original comment said…
@@rigo-mmathat married woman’s husband was dead and her late husband was beating on her before he snapped, murdered the leader’s husband, and then got his brains blown out by Rick. He made his move after that.
The way the Governor shot Axel from several feet away so coldly with that scary look on his face. 😬
I really enjoyed this video! Your analysis on The Governor's story was spot on and shows how much a man can adapt to the crumble of society. TV show Governor has a great overall story and background, which is why I liked the character so much. The end of his story was fitting since he could have all been avoided if he didn't want revenge so badly. Can't wait until the next video!
Thank you so much! The show really took its time letting us get to know him, which I think makes for a more intimate story rather than the comics, where he’s just insane the whole time
The final attack on the prison was super boring and unrealistic. 40 people from Woodberry died and I can't remember one of the prison group dying. Plotarmor be real
Herschel lol
He got that sweet hair cut with a katana 😂
Also many unarmed walkers died in that attack.
Well it's a trap set up by Rick, and his group.
Actually I think 2 Woodbury people died and 0 prison people. The rest of like 25 were killed by the governer
@@mrgrass1232it was a few more then 2 but off screen but yea those were the civilians anyway because remember Rick and the gang plus Merle’s attack led to the death of all the govs soldiers and they were the fighters without them around to fight is one of the main reasons the gov lost that first fight the civs weren’t ready for combat like Rick and nem😂💯
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Thank you so much! I’m definitely going to try my best to keep a relatively consistent schedule
The TV show Governor gives me " Jim Jones" vibes.
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Hmmm never seen this comment before. Original
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Michonne said so to Rick too lol
I've always been suspicious of the Governor and how Lilly's father died. It was just too convenient that the oxygen just didn't work and I always felt like the Governor either sabotaged it or leaked most of the oxygen out. He'd have a 'heroic excuse' to have the family under his thumb and show him to be a trustworthy and sympathetic guy, while getting rid of a certain person holding the family in place.
"I know how the safety works!"
It's a revolver Andrea, it doesnt have one! And then the gun shot and spent round bouncing...which also wouldn't happen with a revolver 🤪
While mostly right, saying that it doesnt have a safety just because its a revolver isnt. Plenty of revolvers have safeties just not really a heavy priorized feature on something with a 6 plus pound da trigger
@@jakepowell1120 thanks for letting me know. It's pretty lazy, even if it is a call back to a different gun. Pfft.
The comment about the safety is a callback to Season 1/2 when Dale didn’t think she knew how to handle a gun and Shane was training her, not the specific gun she was holding . It was meant to be a wistful, bittersweet joke.
Yeah it was a inside joke between Rick and Andrea, I actually loved that line. When they first meet in the store, she points a gun at him. she then apologizes and Rick says she had the safety on lol. When Amy dies and Rick tries to console her, she points the gun again, this time saying "I know how the safety works" calling back to Rick's advice, and lastly when she dies he gives her the gun and she says the same thing. It was a neat little call back.
It's an inside "joke" and a callback to when she said it at the farm... It's her way of saying goodbye... Y'all touch some grass pls
Man, i haven't thought about Carl Poppa in a fat minute. Thank you for throwing it in there.😂
One of the scariest details that most people miss about the torture room is that on the table there is a metal speculum. The same kind of metal speculum used for vaginal exams.
Oooh, I've been waiting for this & you delivered, this is Excellent🙌Thank you!
Thank you! Glad you liked it!
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If u listen carefully u hear a gunshot take down the helicopter. Governor shot it down
I never knew that!!!
14:46. You know. I always wondered why she did not just lie and mention the Farm instead. Imagine them going there and seeing it overrun.
I like how early they were teasing Negan, that board with messages etc had his name on it.
Do you have a timestamp?
@@haileyp.7352it's 39:38
@@ClassicHarleyQuinn thank you 😊
@@haileyp.7352 No Problem.
@ClassicHarleyQuinn that says megan cook though?
The governor from the show and the one in the comics and road to woodbury books are completely different characters...
The governor from the show is definitely more like the brother of the governor in the books (who was also named Phillip).
Ya in the books penny is his niece
I wish they followed through Andrea’s arc with her becoming Woodbury’s new leader.
You can see the beginning of her taking more of a leadership position in Woodbury with her calming down the scared citizens and taking out the walkers infiltrating the city streets.
I'm glad they killed her off. They butchered one of the best characters from the comics. She was the anti Shane. Where the show fleshed him out better than the books, Andrea got dumber and wasted.
I love merle. And that scene with Hershel was perfect
"When the Governor returns, he's gonna kill me first. Michonne, my brother, then your girls. Glenn, Carl, the baby, whoever else is left. He'll save Rick for last so he can watch his family and friends die ugly. That's who you're dealing with."
Andrea was actually confused instead of being stupid
Comic Andrea wouldn't do that she would be in a relationship with Dale.
She was both
I truly don't understand why the fact that governor kept his dead daughter in the office is so bad. In season 2, when Rick and the team where on the farm, dead relatives have been also kept in the separate house and fed. That act is usually interpreted as mercy, but why this one is bad?! It has always been a question for me.
Hershel had come around to see keeping them around was wrong.
The reason it’s seen that way, is because they don’t truly know what is left inside.
Even if .1% of the person is still inside, it could be seen as torture to leave them alive.
Michonne was of this belief, that’s why she kept her boyfriend as the pet, as punishment for him, and herself.
@@Swell-FilmsI really like your explanation of this
Because it’s shows selfishness, he’s not keeping her for her sake but for his own, everything the governor does boils down to selfishness
There is something way more sinister how governor does it. Hes very unhinged man still managing to keep mask on publicly. Hesrshel kept walkers out of pure compassion at that point he didnt understand what really was going on, and he thought they are just sick people that maybe one day comes cure, but Shane showed him they are not people anymore, and that snapped him to the reality of the situation
@@lalli8152 well the governor is a bit like hearshel in that sense but also the governor was just in denial, he wasn’t really a sick man at first, he had just lost everything, his wife and daughter, but he didn’t want that do be true. Once his walker daughter was killed he lost everything and only cared about getting revenge
When Daryl found Merle that realy hit me.. because i have the same kind of relationship with my brothers😢
this was a great video and the governor arc was one of the best, i wish a few things were different but over all he was the best
Did anyone else notice the empty casing hit the floor and echoing right after Andrea is shot by Michonne?
I didn't know that Rick's python was a semi automatic, lol 😂
Good old walking dead sound effects in the first seasons.
Also, Carl's baseball bat aluminum suppressor on the end of that Beretta M9 was pretty awesome as well
just realized his wife is Denise the executive producer for twd haha
Haha yeah it’s a fun Easter egg!
@@Swell-Filmsur vids are perfect for twd fans
They had perfect actors for this show
I'm the perfect actor for real life
As for twd show he is my favorite villain
Although i really like Negan as a character, i know his redemption isnt realistic at all, so it has to knock him down a notch.
My thoughts exactly
Negan realistically woulda lost his mind and or killed himself during the timeskip, the fact he comes out unscathed was so unrealistic
The show turned into diarrhea after season 5 so yeah
Great video. Merle didn’t bring back Michonne’s sword though? I thought u said that. I may have misheard you.
No you’re correct, I did say that. I only noticed the mistake after I uploaded
Merle is one of the interesting character and his death have put a big crack in me watching Daryl crying as he only got so less time with his brother after they separated
OMG, this is so GOOD, Love the Governor!
Thank you so much! He’s definitely the most iconic villain from the show
I always found it funny that people find Governor arc Michone as being annoying because she's antagonistic to the obviously bad guys, the lady's got survival instincts, a bullshit detector and she's obviously not well "socialized" those days.
That version of Michone is hands down my fav in the series, followed closely by first season Glen, first/second season Rick, Shane, Merle and every second of good ol' papa Greene.
Absolutely, she was a shark smelling blood! She was no shark bait! I agree with you about Michonne.
Very well done video. Im appreciative with netflix blocking twd behind a higher paywall and pluto mostly just showing ftwd now. Keep up the good work
11:23 she sent us a biter-gram Yo!
Cool video of the governor, back then while I was 12 , used to watch the walking dead with my sister, to me I always thought that the governor was the bigger individual in the show . But he’s really an iconic villain in the series like this dude had all the package .
im so happy i found your channel, i will be binge watching it over the holidays
Haha I appreciate that! Enjoy!
Im confused why you dont have more subs and views. You are great at this
Thanks so much!
I never thought in a million years I’d even reach this point so I’m thankful!
People can’t understand that Andrea didn’t know what we as the viewer knew about the Governor
Exactly. But that being said, the writers didn’t Portray it very well
I guess my one argument is when the person who saved you & kept you alive for months (Michonne) says something is wrong with this town, why don’t you listen?! Then when she didn’t kill the Governor in his sleep, I lost all respect for her.
Multiple people told her the truth.
Your videos are so entertaining and well put together! Thank you :)
Merle was calling back to god when he was "bagging" on the roof in s1, i don't think so he had nearly as much time he needed as he deserved, everyone felt he was taken out too early, i mean he was only alive for 2 episodes in s1 and 12 in s3 which really underusing character, not counting every and each episode of screentime it is even lower. It is sad, he deserved to be atleast shown to the end of s6
Martinez was killed by him because he didn't want to be leader again, to make other atrocities happen (showing broken persona), as Martinez said :
Maybe we can share the *crown* a little.
Also screaming *I don't want, I don't want it* (he was trying to become changed man, but he knows that true leader would never ask to share the crown, otherwise it would show his incompetence.
I agree merle was wasted, and if he dies make it realistic, bro really died to a walker making noise
I dig your channel man great work!!!!
Thanks so much man!
Excellent content. Good job 👏👏👍
Thank you!!
Appreciate you working full time while putting out these bangers
I like how you make these videos. New sub for sure
This reminds me of why I watched the show in the first place. I had frankly forgotten 😂
Loved the video! Thanks for this.
The governor was one of the best villains. He gave just enough away to feel dread but he was also sympathetic because of his daughter. I thought he was great.
Another fantastic video my friend
Thank you so much!
Love this video on my favorite walking dead character! Also like your camera work for when you're talking, the way it's placed behind your head with the green lights. Gonna subscribe due to you having so many walking dead videos!
Another banger vid thank you swell films
I downloaded this video a few weeks back, glad I finally got around to it :) great video!!
Thanks for sticking with it!
Why downvote
7:54 Considering Andrea NEVER listens to advice least of all any good...
There’s a lot of plot holes in terms of how the infection can spread like for one example michonne stabbing the governor in the eye with Walker tainted water, wouldn’t it infect him with the virus?
Yeah you’re 100% right. That’s just one of those things you gotta suspend your disbelief for.
It wouldn’t have been as big a deal if they didn’t have the saviours weaponize it in season 8
Perhaps not enough was on the blade or dilluded by the water
Everyone's infected tho
I was under the impression his name was not really Philip? I thought he stole his brother’s name, because he wasn’t proud of anything? I could be wrong.
In the comics Yes. But No in the series. In the series Phillip was his real name and he took the name Brian from some name on a wall when he was marching through some wasteland after losing the Woodberry. It's a pity that the guy didn't fix himself then because he had a chance with this new family and new identity. He tried to change at the beginning but eventually he started doing what he had done before, although whether he would be as angry as before if he had this new family with him is a moot point.
Didn't The Governor have a brother in the novel Rise of the Governor? It's been a long time since I read it but from what I can remember is that Penny was actually his niece and Philip Blake/ The Governor was actually the younger brother Brian and he assumes Philip's identity after Philip is killed in the novel.
You’re correct, but the novels follow the comic continuity which is different.
I’m the show, penny’s his daughter, and from what I remember Philip never even mentions a brother
Raises glass to"The World's Quietest Tank"
The Governor gives abusive husband/father vibes. I think he always was a psychopath
The governor mentioned in “Dead Weight” that he was abused as a child.
@@DrakeSmith-tn6ij abused children usually grow up with those traumas and either they become better people or they become worse than the person that abused them
U just earned a subscriber for this amazing video
Thank you so much! Welcome aboard
bro switched his name from philip to brian because he lost an eye
the actor who plays the Governor aka Phillip Blake made a really good villain and a really good actor
This channel is too damn underrated.
Haha appreciate that!
Never seen this comment before . Original
If they left this man alone, the city would be there till the end of TWD...
You mean if he would have left Rick alone. Yeah your right 😊
Finally someone who understands Andrea’s character
Phillip shouldn’t have burned down woodbury, he could’ve started over
I think Rick would’ve put an end to that before he even got the chance tbh
Right Woodbury was too far gone.
This was such a beautiful and amazing video, thank you for making this and we are greatful for this video, 10/10❤
Great analysis on this, I’m excited to see how you handle the less consistent characters later. Any plans for the spin-offs?
I’m 100% gonna be covering the ones who live! The others I’m gonna get around to but I enjoy doing videos on specific arks and characters, rather than whole seasons. But who knows!
31:15 Merle is trying to talk to God, not the Governor. This is a callback from when he was handcuffed on a roof back in season 1.
Great video, lots or research gone i yo that. Keep up the great work
Underrated channel how do you not have at least 50k subscribers
Andrea was an idiot the entire show. She almost killed darrel, continuously created social issues and she not only picked the governor to followbut shane even before that. Two murdering cowards who are not above hurting women and children for personal gain. Not only was she incapable and weak at the beginning but even after she became proficient at killing she stayed stupid. Until the bitter end.
Great Video. Good job c:
Can someone explain to me why did the governor want the prison in the first place when he and they have a literal town?
Power
Safety and power.
The Prison was built better to keep zombies out than a town. More land for farming in a safe area. The cell blocks could house more people, hold more storage.
Power aspect, setting would help tear down followers' sense of individuality. Easy to lock up to anyone who questioned his authority.
I love your vids they have a nice touch of horror in them due to your excellent storytelling and and excellent song selection for vids
Hey thanks so much! :)
Who knew rick would take his own hand and not Govy
This is edited like he’s in a horror movie 🙏😭
It always pissed me off Andrea stopped Michonne from killing the Governor. She could have stopped the raid on the prison and the death of Hershel. Ugggh. Honestly, I just couldn't stand Andrea this entire season.
She was dickmatized.
What’s weird to me is we all seem to judge socio/psychopaths heavily. But…we all respond differently to trauma. If we lost everyone we cared about, who’s to say we’d be any different than they would? I know we all think we wouldn’t, but how do we know? Edit: yes, I’m aware they’re a threat. Of course they are. I’m not saying to pretend otherwise.
I'm exactly like The Governor except I have aquariums of weiners.
@@householdgamblerlike people's junk or actual hot dogs? Please tell me you mean hot dogs.
you're right, if a dude has human heads for TV I'm gonna reconsider if I'm being a meanie weanie to him and consider that he may just respond differently 🎉
@@Shannon-vv6rr learn how to read. I didn’t say they weren’t a threat. And they should be treated as such. But guess what? Most of the ones on tv are deeply traumatized individuals. Let’s see how you respond to that. I have a feeling you’ll be a little bit of a “meanie weanie” yourself. Are you suggesting we immediately go nuclear the second you are?
I love these arcs I gotta playlist of them keep them coming 🎉
Watching this makes you wonder what it would have been like if Glen Mazzara didn't choose to kill off Andrea. Like would Carol still end up being the same person she became as the seasons went on and would Andrea became more similar to how she was in comics?
First time view awesome dude. Thank you
Great videos! TWD forever! I'm gonna downloard these, and make some cool blu-rays 😃
Much more interesting than Negan because Negan was still a normal person before the outbreak happened, but it seems like the Governor was a time bomb and the outbreak made it worse.
Cool video. However, Penny was killed pre woodbury and Philip survived with his brother Brian and Philip's friends Bobby and Nick. Rise Of The Governor is the backstory of the comics version of this character, and the show version experienced a similar version of that backstory.
Penny was a walker when he arrived at Woodbury, my theory is that he killed his brother after Brian tried to prevent Philip from feeding someone to Penny, whom Philip believed to still be alive.
Good catch! I’ve never actually read them even though I’ve had them for years. I should get them out one of these days
@@Swell-Films In s3, Michonne sees the names Brian, Bobby and Nick in Philips notebook. Also on a previous there was a note about sending an email, so that confirmed that he wasn't at Woodbury when the apocalypse began.
Actually Brian killed Phillip and took Philips persona in the book. He's not even the real mean tough brother he was weak and scared until he took over his younger brothers persona
@@householdgambler That happens in the comics universe, however the governor in the show universe is Philip Blake. Penny is his daughter, and the photo that he has of his family proves that.
Governor: 50% Jim Jones, 50% abusive husband type. Its cool that Carols the one that told Andrea to kill him because she knows his "brand" of monster when she sees one. I feel like the people who despise Andrea are ridiculous types that will blame the woman for not leaving a man like him who has his claws in her
Did the governor shoot the helicopter down?
Fantastic video 👏👏👏
Thank you so much!
Once the Governor killed Herschel, i never watched it again. I love listening to a great video on it, and thanks.
What about the list of names that included his daughters name i have always wondered what that was because some are scratched out
You should do a video about the claimers next.
That’s hilarious I’m actually writing the script for the claimers now
@@Swell-Films same minds think alike I guess but the Claimers are by far my favorite side villain in the show so I wanted to see you cover them.
great video dropped a like but why are the clips inverted
Clips are inverted for copyright protection
@@Swell-Films oh ok makes sense
@@ABLQuality yeah it’s unfortunate, but I’ve used more images for my recent videos so I’ve been able to avoid it more
@@Swell-Films fair enough
I really liked this guy. A proper evil guy.
Denise Huth-one of the producers for the show, i think-is the woman in the picture portraying his wife. She's a looker.
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