Coraline’s book is a lot more dark than the movie. The only reason Neil Gaiman got the book published is because when his publisher read it to her daughter, the daughter lied about how terrifying the story was.
It wasn't just Coraline that is dark, the backstory around Wonderland is also very scary. The arthur based the mc on a little girl who name is Alice, he teached as a professor. Also there also rumors that he was a pedophile considering that he took several nude photos of children including Alice and those photos still exist.
The author of Alice in Wonderland was close friends with a guy who had a daughter named Alice, who he was obsessed with. He ended up taking lewd photos of Alice’s younger siblings. The guy banned the author from visiting his daughter, so the author wrote the book. I believe this is what happened I’m not 100% sure it’s right, but I think it’s pretty close
I’m surprised you didn’t notice “off with all her heads” referring to how Coralline is stop motion, with hundreds of different sculpted faces to give her smooth emotions and lip syncing.
I know I’m late but a lot of references in this is more about Alice and her rated Mature video game. Example- 1. Nightmares are PG rated line she’s making fun of the fact that coralline is considered a horror movie even though it’s PG rated, while Alice return to madness is rated R. 2. The Alice in wonder land to Alice cooper line was more about the rated MATURE game if you see how goth like she looks in the game compared to the movie she’s referring to her looking like him. And also how he fell off lol. Also another thing most people don’t pick up is the fact that Alice pronounces coralline as CAROLINE on purpose because in the movie coralline always gets mad when you say her name wrong. Alice does this during the snow globe part which is her last turn in the round.
I think Alice won, a few reasons I found were: 1. I like how her reference to “nightmares are PG rated” could be interpreted from how many dark versions there are of Alice’s story and I also didn’t find Coraline scary but that might just be me (only referring to the Coraline movie here as the book was from what I’m told and what saw when looking into it very terrifying), 2. The line “make everyone’s heart stop motion” relates to how Coraline is a stop motion movie, 3. She had the volpor( spelling!?) blade at the beheading 4. She did the countdown like how the other mother did when getting Coraline to apologise, There are many others but don’t want to bombard the comment lol and I do admit that Coraline had good lines like the Alice cooper line and diss of the Tim Burton film( with I don’t like ever) but I think Alice had better lines.
My favorite burn in this whole battle is the subtle "Caroline" from Alice on her very last bar. Explination- Coraline repeatedly corrects people on her name throughout the movie from CARoline to CORaline
It was, also when she said "your fame passed faster" it's a reference to the same director dying from cancer I think and he couldn't afford the treatment. It's a really harsh line when you know what it means
I noticed that Alice said dollface, as a reference to the Coraline doll that was made in the beginning of the movie. I also noticed that they counted to 3 as a reference to the 3 ghost children and their eyes. And coraline’s other mother counting to 3. So yeah-
Alice and the wonderland was also about acid. I think that was a reference to when Caroline said Alice and the wonderland syndrome. Because acid was pretty big in the late 50s and 60s
hey Skyler, do you remember the Alice cooper reference? Well i thought of another alice reference that explains Alice's dark half. Do you remember the game Alice? i think that also might be another subtle reference. As always, great reaction.
I love actually watching reactors knowing their stuff ant taking time to explaining stuff. Besides being those common rap reactors that just focus on the bars and misreading the lyrics.
I really like the Brunette Alice reference. Though tbh, I was hoping for a more direct and subtle reference to American McGee's Alice background but I'll take what I can get here. I still can't decide....
Has anyone request any of the "Princess Rap Battles" by Whitney Avalaon yet? Definitely worth a couple of reactions. I'll reccomend a couple. Cinderlla vs Belle, Rapunzel vs Anna, and Dorothy vs Alice are great.
I'd say Coraline killed herself with the Alice in Wonderland Syndrome line, seeing as Alice's brand WILL continue to grow, and that there is no way Coraline will ever be bigger and more iconic than Alice, proving that Coraline's the one with Alice in Wonderland Syndrome as she's clearly losing touch with reality. Also, finally! Someone else who thinks Alice won.
I see it the other way around, Alice killed herself calling Coraline a schizophrenic since she's the one who inspired an entire syndrome, and they both have a fair point, Coraline probably won't outlive Alice but Alice's popularity statistically at least is NOT growing, it's static to shrinking, you simply need to ask people from the 90s and 2010s to see how Alice is remembered but not as appreciated.
Solid but you missed quite a few things so allow me to mention (some) of them "All your magic potions." - Small reference to the "drink me" potion Alice takes and possibly the other substances she eat during her time in wonderland. "A Circus in the Attic" - (Ok this was brought up but I feel like it needs a bit of an explanation) - Pink Palace in the film is separated into 3 apartments. Mr Bobinsky lives in the attic who he claims to run a mouse circus. "Time is buttered" - this is a subtle reference to the Mad Tea Party in which The Mad Hatter and March Hare try to fix the White Rabbit's watch one of the thing they use is butter, thus buttered time. "The theatre's put your fame under the basement." - As stated above Pink Palace is 3 apartments the basement apartment is occupied by Ms Spink and Forcible, two retired theatre actresses. Possible reference to the film where Other Spink and Forcible have an actual theatre in the basement. "You've locked the door, Coraline be careful what you wish for." - Coraline travel between the Other world and her world through a door in both film and book. The other world gives her all her wishes in the beginning. Near the climax of the film Coraline locks the door to prevent the other mother from trying to take her.
The Grinch vs. Ebenezer Scrooge just dropped a few days ago by Freshy and it's super good. Leatherface by Hannibal Lecter is also great. I'd also recommend Pennywise vs. Freddy Krueger and Wonder Woman vs. Daenerys Targaryen.
Did anyone pick up on the line about Coraline’s director being empty pocketed when he also directed Alice in Wonderland’s two live action remakes. I am referring to Tim Burton of course And the Disney animated film was release in 1956
She also made every one's heart stop motion because , its horror but they made it pg rated maybe because it's a mistake of the show, forgive my English I'm very tired at night, I should sleep.
When coraline saves her parents and they don’t remember what she did maybe the other mother made that as a punishment so her parents wouldn’t be great full for what a wonderful daughter they have :(
The matter hatter Line is basically saying that Alice’s verses are better to go up a against someone crazier than the mad hatter because there so bad and I think it’s funny
Was I the only kid that like to watch Alice in wonderland like I used to watch that movie over and over again but that’s probably because I wanted to understand it
The Alice Cooper line wasn’t saying that she fell off. It was mentioning the video game she was in because she has black hair in it and it’s very very dark like Alice Cooper type stuff
I think That pennywise And the other mother Brother and sister Because they both have their final forms Or spiders and they both like to eat children Like spiders
Henry sellick (idk if that’s how you spell his last name) directed coraline. Tim burton didn’t direct it, but he directed other famous stop-motion movies (nightmare before Christmas, the corpse bride, etc.)
Christen stories such as alice in wonderland and the grim fairytale were allowed to be a lot darker and much more gruesome compared to modern days. You say people are a lot less tolerable back then but modern day make watered down versions of the original stories, some that have murder, torture, and rape in them.
Henry Selick Directed Coraline, James and the Giant Peach, and The Nightmare Before Christmas, Tim Burton Produced Nightmare, And Directed the 2010 Alice Reboot. Yes The Stone is called an Adder Stone, It's a Stone with a Natural hole in it. And like you said it is sort of the Looking glass of Coraline, it's used for finding Lost things Before The Beldam Destroys it, And Coraline uses it to locate the lost souls of the Ghost Children. Yeah I've never been to a Disney Theme Park, But even I know that the Teacups are the Alice Ride. Yeah I'd hate to say it, but it looks like Dakota Fanning won, But like you said it was Close, And Hey it's Your Channel so if you want Alice, Then Okay.
Alice had a reference to Coraline being "crazy" in every single one of her verses. There's a pause between borderline and rip-off in the first (horrifying borderline rip-off) (it could mean both a borderline rip-off with emphasis on rip-off or emphasis on borderline. It's fun to think about.) In the second (home turned out like your head, a circus in the attic) And finally, Alice calling her a schizophrenic.
The artist is Tim Burton and he's one of my favorites and yes he is not broke he is a famous artist and a lot of an amazing person I just like him sorry I had to come with this
I don't think they did scene fair for coraline because they gave cool parts like off with her head the counting parts and coraline had less screen time and it really wasn't fair for her but she still roasted her hard and because i feel like it was unfair and i liked coralines lines more i think corline won i respect ur opinion
@lieleeim not talking about how many parts there was but I'm talking about how long alices parts where even if coroline had more screen time which she didn't alice had roasts in every sentence and every words and she only roasted meanwhile coroline defended herself more then roast her she only had few roasts but still won in my opinion also alice had alot of references unlike coroline doesn't seem fair too me of u ask me
I kinda got annoyed that each time he plays the video then pause it and talks shit and then play for 15 sec and pause again, next time you do these reaction videos, just watch the whole video first then do the talking. Is it me or I got kinda annoyed by that?
It’s just a preference. I’m just not your type of channel then. If you want to watch the video in its entirety and not have any input watch the original!
@@YouLoveSkyler yeah, I'm just probably a quite kid. I don't talk a lot so that probably why it annoys me lol. its not your fault. I always acts like that.
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Coraline’s book is a lot more dark than the movie. The only reason Neil Gaiman got the book published is because when his publisher read it to her daughter, the daughter lied about how terrifying the story was.
It wasn't just Coraline that is dark, the backstory around Wonderland is also very scary. The arthur based the mc on a little girl who name is Alice, he teached as a professor. Also there also rumors that he was a pedophile considering that he took several nude photos of children including Alice and those photos still exist.
The author of Alice in Wonderland was close friends with a guy who had a daughter named Alice, who he was obsessed with. He ended up taking lewd photos of Alice’s younger siblings. The guy banned the author from visiting his daughter, so the author wrote the book.
I believe this is what happened I’m not 100% sure it’s right, but I think it’s pretty close
@@p0ssibly_d3ad54 ughh that's pretty disturbing. Not sure if i can look at Alice the same way now haha :'D
@@donereater2755 (but remember back then taking lewd photos of little kids was considered normal so he wasn’t classified as a pedofile at the time)
@@p0ssibly_d3ad54 oohh there is also that part. Still tho, it's pretty gross
I’m surprised you didn’t notice “off with all her heads” referring to how Coralline is stop motion, with hundreds of different sculpted faces to give her smooth emotions and lip syncing.
and people with schyscophrenia are refeerred to having multiple heads aswell
When Alice was counting '1, 2, 3', I think it was a reference to the three seconds the Other Mother gave Caroline to apologize
it is
Coraline*
*Coraline be like* :Ugh just get over with you're raps it's my turn.
😂
Yuh, because she a queen, no cap. ❤
Caroline be like: now listen here
I know I’m late but a lot of references in this is more about Alice and her rated Mature video game. Example-
1. Nightmares are PG rated line she’s making fun of the fact that coralline is considered a horror movie even though it’s PG rated, while Alice return to madness is rated R.
2. The Alice in wonder land to Alice cooper line was more about the rated MATURE game if you see how goth like she looks in the game compared to the movie she’s referring to her looking like him. And also how he fell off lol.
Also another thing most people don’t pick up is the fact that Alice pronounces coralline as CAROLINE on purpose because in the movie coralline always gets mad when you say her name wrong. Alice does this during the snow globe part which is her last turn in the round.
Nice
I think Alice won, a few reasons I found were:
1. I like how her reference to “nightmares are PG rated” could be interpreted from how many dark versions there are of Alice’s story and I also didn’t find Coraline scary but that might just be me (only referring to the Coraline movie here as the book was from what I’m told and what saw when looking into it very terrifying),
2. The line “make everyone’s heart stop motion” relates to how Coraline is a stop motion movie,
3. She had the volpor( spelling!?) blade at the beheading
4. She did the countdown like how the other mother did when getting Coraline to apologise,
There are many others but don’t want to bombard the comment lol and I do admit that Coraline had good lines like the Alice cooper line and diss of the Tim Burton film( with I don’t like ever) but I think Alice had better lines.
Notice how at 10:34 Alice says Caroline instead of Coraline
Dam-
My favorite burn in this whole battle is the subtle "Caroline" from Alice on her very last bar.
Explination- Coraline repeatedly corrects people on her name throughout the movie from CARoline to CORaline
The empty pocket director is probably on the owner of the company who made coraline
It was, also when she said "your fame passed faster" it's a reference to the same director dying from cancer I think and he couldn't afford the treatment. It's a really harsh line when you know what it means
@@Jacob-bn1nj Holy crud
So happy to see another Freshy Kanal reaction! Well now waiting for the Grinch vs Ebenezer battle by him or Kanye vs Taylor Swift
I noticed that Alice said dollface, as a reference to the Coraline doll that was made in the beginning of the movie. I also noticed that they counted to 3 as a reference to the 3 ghost children and their eyes. And coraline’s other mother counting to 3. So yeah-
Alice and the wonderland was also about acid. I think that was a reference to when Caroline said Alice and the wonderland syndrome. Because acid was pretty big in the late 50s and 60s
There's a syndrome literally named after her, and she dared to call someone a schizophrenic 😂
No this isn't true please do proper research before you comment
@@goldenstudios2375 okay then you tell
*coraline* ([{don’t say “🤓☝️” do me-}])
hey Skyler, do you remember the Alice cooper reference? Well i thought of another alice reference that explains Alice's dark half. Do you remember the game Alice? i think that also might be another subtle reference. As always, great reaction.
I love actually watching reactors knowing their stuff ant taking time to explaining stuff. Besides being those common rap reactors that just focus on the bars and misreading the lyrics.
Him every time they rap : HARD HARD HARD
I really like the Brunette Alice reference. Though tbh, I was hoping for a more direct and subtle reference to American McGee's Alice background but I'll take what I can get here.
I still can't decide....
American mcgee's aliceeeee!
Fresh Kanal always has an exceptional bar. This one, I love the madder hatter part. I can't imagine how hard it was to write much less perform.
i was hoping this one first before the leatherface/Lecter battle.
Has anyone request any of the "Princess Rap Battles" by Whitney Avalaon yet? Definitely worth a couple of reactions.
I'll reccomend a couple. Cinderlla vs Belle, Rapunzel vs Anna, and Dorothy vs Alice are great.
i've seen her vids eee
I love Dorothy and Alice's rap battle!!
The grinch vs scrooge or leatherface vs lecter by freshly
Ye
I'd say Coraline killed herself with the Alice in Wonderland Syndrome line, seeing as Alice's brand WILL continue to grow, and that there is no way Coraline will ever be bigger and more iconic than Alice, proving that Coraline's the one with Alice in Wonderland Syndrome as she's clearly losing touch with reality.
Also, finally! Someone else who thinks Alice won.
I see it the other way around, Alice killed herself calling Coraline a schizophrenic since she's the one who inspired an entire syndrome, and they both have a fair point, Coraline probably won't outlive Alice but Alice's popularity statistically at least is NOT growing, it's static to shrinking, you simply need to ask people from the 90s and 2010s to see how Alice is remembered but not as appreciated.
Solid but you missed quite a few things so allow me to mention (some) of them
"All your magic potions." - Small reference to the "drink me" potion Alice takes and possibly the other substances she eat during her time in wonderland.
"A Circus in the Attic" - (Ok this was brought up but I feel like it needs a bit of an explanation) - Pink Palace in the film is separated into 3 apartments. Mr Bobinsky lives in the attic who he claims to run a mouse circus.
"Time is buttered" - this is a subtle reference to the Mad Tea Party in which The Mad Hatter and March Hare try to fix the White Rabbit's watch one of the thing they use is butter, thus buttered time.
"The theatre's put your fame under the basement." - As stated above Pink Palace is 3 apartments the basement apartment is occupied by Ms Spink and Forcible, two retired theatre actresses. Possible reference to the film where Other Spink and Forcible have an actual theatre in the basement.
"You've locked the door, Coraline be careful what you wish for." - Coraline travel between the Other world and her world through a door in both film and book. The other world gives her all her wishes in the beginning. Near the climax of the film Coraline locks the door to prevent the other mother from trying to take her.
Princess Rap Battles Hermione vs katniss
Or Dorothy vs Alice
Do some of the Princess rap battles.
Leave a comment on what you guys want to see next!
I would love you to react to PRB
More freshly kanal would be great there was a new one the other day 'the Grinch vs Scrooge" which was a very good battle
The macho man randy savage be a man song
You gotta check out VGRB their Nintendo vs Sega rap battles are awesome
The Grinch vs. Ebenezer Scrooge just dropped a few days ago by Freshy and it's super good. Leatherface by Hannibal Lecter is also great. I'd also recommend Pennywise vs. Freddy Krueger and Wonder Woman vs. Daenerys Targaryen.
Henry slick was the director from Coraline he direct nightmares l before Christmas and (forgot name)
Did anyone pick up on the line about Coraline’s director being empty pocketed when he also directed Alice in Wonderland’s two live action remakes.
I am referring to Tim Burton of course
And the Disney animated film was release in 1956
The Grinch vs Scrooge from Freshy is a preeetty good one so ill recommend that one
I need a coraline vs the other mother rap battle!
She also made every one's heart stop motion because , its horror but they made it pg rated maybe because it's a mistake of the show, forgive my English I'm very tired at night, I should sleep.
the first alice in wonderland movie was in 1903 it was a silent film
the catapillar ride as well there are 2 alice in wonderland rides..
When coraline saves her parents and they don’t remember what she did maybe the other mother made that as a punishment so her parents wouldn’t be great full for what a wonderful daughter they have :(
i must admit, you're pretty cool dude
Will the real Freshy Kanel pls step forward. So far I've counted 3 of you ........
And I think Coraline Good Dahl censorship reference. V contemporary.
The matter hatter Line is basically saying that Alice’s verses are better to go up a against someone crazier than the mad hatter because there so bad and I think it’s funny
Coraline won because Neil Gaiman invented her, while Alice lost because Lewis Carol invented her.
And what does that have to do with anything?
@@icecremii_ღ pinto
Wait...wut... Sandman created Coraline?
😑😑😑😑😑🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷
Now *this* is BASED
That was hard bro, hard hard hard. 😂😂😂
Lol this guys reaction 🤣🤣
Was I the only kid that like to watch Alice in wonderland like I used to watch that movie over and over again but that’s probably because I wanted to understand it
Him: cool me: singing it
I tottle agree that Alice won but when i see ppl react to this they say Coraline won but I think Alice got this one
I think coraline won
Its a tie 😭
But there's one difference between the two:
Coraline comforted the people around her but Alice ran from her hallucinations the whole movie.
@@Old-lady-memory We have to decide based on the rap war. That's what makes this a rap battle. Please use your brain
Gotta say coralline won 🥲
The Alice Cooper line wasn’t saying that she fell off. It was mentioning the video game she was in because she has black hair in it and it’s very very dark like Alice Cooper type stuff
6:32 that's also spider-wick reference
YOU NEED MORE SUB’S
Freddy Kruger vs Pennywise is amazing
I recommend Wonder Woman versus Daenerys I think that’s the Stevie Wonder reference.
alice in woderleand is from victorian england
I think That pennywise And the other mother Brother and sister Because they both have their final forms Or spiders and they both like to eat children Like spiders
Henry sellick (idk if that’s how you spell his last name) directed coraline. Tim burton didn’t direct it, but he directed other famous stop-motion movies (nightmare before Christmas, the corpse bride, etc.)
Christen stories such as alice in wonderland and the grim fairytale were allowed to be a lot darker and much more gruesome compared to modern days. You say people are a lot less tolerable back then but modern day make watered down versions of the original stories, some that have murder, torture, and rape in them.
9:16 FEED MYYYYYYYYYYYY FRANKENSTEIN!!!! hahahaha (first time hearing Alice Cooper was Wayne's World)
the video is 3:21 long and the video is 4x that
Yep, problem?
@@YouLoveSkyler no
Henry Selick Directed Coraline, James and the Giant Peach, and The Nightmare Before Christmas, Tim Burton Produced Nightmare, And Directed the 2010 Alice Reboot. Yes The Stone is called an Adder Stone, It's a Stone with a Natural hole in it. And like you said it is sort of the Looking glass of Coraline, it's used for finding Lost things Before The Beldam Destroys it, And Coraline uses it to locate the lost souls of the Ghost Children. Yeah I've never been to a Disney Theme Park, But even I know that the Teacups are the Alice Ride. Yeah I'd hate to say it, but it looks like Dakota Fanning won, But like you said it was Close, And Hey it's Your Channel so if you want Alice, Then Okay.
Alice had a reference to Coraline being "crazy" in every single one of her verses.
There's a pause between borderline and rip-off in the first (horrifying borderline rip-off) (it could mean both a borderline rip-off with emphasis on rip-off or emphasis on borderline. It's fun to think about.)
In the second (home turned out like your head, a circus in the attic)
And finally, Alice calling her a schizophrenic.
I think the alice cooper might be referring to the American mcgee's alice
Can you just stop talking so we can listen to it like stop stopping it you can talk over it or you wanna see it you talk too much
If you want to listen to the song. Listen to the song. It’s that simple.
The artist is Tim Burton and he's one of my favorites and yes he is not broke he is a famous artist and a lot of an amazing person I just like him sorry I had to come with this
I think Coraline won.
If you think Coraline won the rap battle reply to this comment please.
And comment your reason Coraline won please?
Princess Rap Battles Hermione vs. Katniss. ERB Shakespeare vs. Dr. Seuss.
React to Cam Steadys Baldi vs Slender Man
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland was published in 1865.
damn coraline won
Alexander hamilton vs luke skywalker
My name is Alice
You forgot one two three it’s talking about the other mother
Alice won 4sure!
Coraline got the bag
Alice brought the Vorpal Blade to Coraline's beheading 😋
Caroline wins tho
AWWWWW DAMN!!!!!
Coraline won
You are kinda late man
Princess rap battles! By whitney
I don't think they did scene fair for coraline because they gave cool parts like off with her head the counting parts and coraline had less screen time and it really wasn't fair for her but she still roasted her hard and because i feel like it was unfair and i liked coralines lines more i think corline won i respect ur opinion
@lieleeim not talking about how many parts there was but I'm talking about how long alices parts where even if coroline had more screen time which she didn't alice had roasts in every sentence and every words and she only roasted meanwhile coroline defended herself more then roast her she only had few roasts but still won in my opinion also alice had alot of references unlike coroline doesn't seem fair too me of u ask me
Can you talk so much nobody to see all of it
NICE! 😎😎😎😎😎😍😍😍😍😍
Alice in wonderland
Why is your head shaking..?
?
Because he's feeling the music have you never shook your head before when you hear a song you like
I kinda got annoyed that each time he plays the video then pause it and talks shit and then play for 15 sec and pause again, next time you do these reaction videos, just watch the whole video first then do the talking. Is it me or I got kinda annoyed by that?
It’s just a preference. I’m just not your type of channel then. If you want to watch the video in its entirety and not have any input watch the original!
@@YouLoveSkyler yeah, I'm just probably a quite kid. I don't talk a lot so that probably why it annoys me lol. its not your fault. I always acts like that.
@@YouLoveSkyler im actually really tired rn is 10:50 pm for me so sorry if sone of my comments makes no sense
Bro i hate when its reacting time and u keep pause it like stop yapping just yap after the rap is done
Could be worse. I could be the guy who clicked on a video labeled as "breakdown" expecting something else.
Your really talking to much
Try not clicking on a video labeled breakdown next time.
Coraline won