Honestly you don't even need to play the game, there are multiple movies that portray his abilities way better than how League portrays him, Like Wu-Kong produced in 2017, I'm just say League Wukong doesn't have any animal transformations
@@Sluchayniy I like the way Wukong everytime he transform into anything he literally roasted Lycan, "Lycan got one transformation, I got 72.", Literally Neeko...😂😂😂
It always feeled like Riots Wukong didnt really capture the awsomes of the Monky King but your Version did it so good, now im really sad that we dont have this version but just a empty shell of Sun Wukong in League ^^
Cause it makes wukong too op. Inagine in a teamfight a janna ult then dashing in with a fckin r tornado also evading enemy strikes with q press when necessary. Also this would make the monkey king the hardest character in the game. Many mechanics to understand... OFC IT WOULD BE EPIC TO PLAY HIM... Just against him?
Eh if i would read... Now what i wrote stays there. I dont know too... He is clearly talented interested in game design and development. Balancing that?? Gl with that pfff... They cant balance the game properly as it is, not speaking about these mechanics. Also:Who knows what bugs would this cause... Viego, Sylas
@@norbertszabo7405 You know, the series is called "Doom Bot", so I guess he's aware of this being unbalanced, and did it on purpose. But even tho, every concept needs to be testet out, to make it fit. That's why it's only a concept. And the same is with bugs (but to be fair, in leagues spaghetti code everything might cause a tons of buggs)
@@norbertszabo7405 There was a whole PvE game mode based on playing vs bots that were empowered version of themselves. AI was the same, but difficulty was set by giving champs empowered abilities. And that was looking something alike to those EkkoLogical designs. It wasn't ment to be ballanced. It was ment to be hard
this is the respect Wukong deserves not just as a champion but as a character entirely, its also very ironic how Riot has refused this champions relevance for a decade mirroring just like how Sun Wukong was treated in Chinese Mythology lol... He is barely known in the lore and theyve always refused to elaborate or write more about his character in the story... for a champion released all the way back in 2011 he has zero special interactions with any champions not even other Ionians
the idea of holding an ability for a different type of villain is such a simple and good idea that I cant belive its not in league on every new champ also the whole passive thing stealing monster abilities is such a cool idea and could work as an actual ultimate for a new champion + his q being able to be recast as another skill shot is visually amazing
The idea of (2nd E) having up to 5 clones that last for 3 seconds (and mimics abilities with less dmg, lets say 15-20-25% of normal ability dmg) is a nice idea for an ultimate ability for a new champion or rework shaco. great work and ideas as always :)
I like how this is a mix of Dota 2 (Monkey King - weapon extends) and Smite (Wukong - shapeshifting to other forms). This is indeed lore accurate Wukong, if 'balancing' the champion isn't the issue. Good job, Ekkological!
i was thinking this if using Black Myth moveset, otherwise an AD version of Hwei kit. Making Q staff moves, W clone moves, E wuju moves, ULT can be what you presented.
Great robot! The pitching just keeps getting better and better! A lot of interesting options, it would be great to see from the developers such a variation and variety of possible abilities,ideas.... :< (small indie company,lol)
love the ideas :) a few of us Wukong otps have been begging for a rework for ages. Since his rework he doesnt feel like a trickster and just spams q and r it's boring and doesn't represent Sun Wukong that well. It's crazy to see you also had the idea for q being a line skillshot too. smite and dota 2 already have it and it makes the most sense to me
Man, you need to get into a game design team if you're not already ! Every video is so coherent and cool, of course the champions are always OP but that's the point, I'd love to see more, really nice job 😁
I really enjoy this way to do wukong... but what if his kit revolved around his clones, as this is a signiture ability that Wukong has in lore, the duplications to be a trickster. What if his ult was his clone ability and it contained charges? maybe you start with 2 charges on your first level up of the ult, then as you level your ult, you get an additional charge to a max of 5. Then replace his W with his ult, a simple spin to knock enemies up, and decrease the cast time. BUT, this is where it gets interesting, all of your additional abilities where you press and hold, those become unlocks as you level your ult as well. Similar to Kha'zix evolutions, Wukong would choose an ability to add an additional effect, and each one you described is perfect for this honestly. This way, you can have 5 clones that run around and do things, really throwing the enemies of their guard, but they all can be like 2 hit enemies, that way they are not too OP. And of course, your clones mimic you abilities, giving you a late game scaling champ who can really dominate teamfights
Hi! Great but one note that may help with your future ideas: With nimbus strike you want to do it instantly, so the second use (with E pressed and hold) is incompatible because there's no way to detect if the user wants to hold E or use nimbus strike instantly. It happens with abilities with no windup nor channel.
I like the idea of the W. and you also have a really good point. Wukong's unique trickster trait isn't that great anymore, because new champions can do it so much better. Neeko as mentioned, but also Zoe with her R and stealing flashes and now Aurora with her little rabbit hole resets. Something about these champs being better at tricks than a literal trickster god (in myth lore) doesn't sit right with me. The same way that certain champions with certain builds have more lifesteal and survivability than a full build Vladimir, a goddamn whole hemomancer
It's a very interesting idea, it would be a really fun character to play by turning him into something like Hwei and Karma, interacting with different combinations. However I would punish him by reducing his damage due to such a diversity of abilities, as adding cooldowns to his abilities would be a disadvantage for him, seeing as he is a melee character. As for the passive, I think it would be too big. I would limit it to after getting a dragon soul, Wukong gets a buff on X skill. For example: - Fire dragon soul: If he blocks with his ultimate, he will reflect X% (small) damage to enemies (like a thornmail). If you choose to rotate with your ultimate, that area will be imbued with fire and will do X% damage (Like Shyvana's W). - Wind Dragon Soul: Gain the cloud, and while out of combat you will receive a speed bonus. This could also ‘help’ Wukong to be multifaceted and have different builds, for example with that mobility he could be an assassin, if he has that buff from the fire dragon, it would help him to be offtank, or if he takes the mountain, tank, etc. Maybe I've freaked out a bit, but I've been infected by this creativity. I hope Riot Games sees it and takes note!
Your totally right, Wukong isn't a trickster anymore, ik that its not supposed to be implemented in the game but honestly i feel like if we actually remove the 2 cast on R + tune down overall damage AND we add the change about the dash that left a clone and the clone that last a bit longer (no control no TP, i think it would be just broken) I Feel like Wukong could be so much more interesting to play and a more noticeable identity
Fun Fact: While in every version of LoL, Wukong is simply based on the legendary Monkey King and has no relation to him, in the Chinese version of the game, he's straight up the same Monkey King from Journey to the West.
Q fast tap is a melee range attack, Q holding to charge becomes a long range attack (like Sion Q) W takes 1 second animation and during it wukong can dodge attacks and spells (lika when Shaco use clone). The clone that created is controllable (again like a Shaco), and you can switch places with your clone (like Zed) up to two times (kinda like LeBlanc jumps with W) E is a dash attack that hit 3 targets and creates two clones who stay for two seconds and marking all 3 targets that was hit, using E again on any market target (in range) will make another dash to it and attack with quick knock up (like XinZhao) R first use starts a medium range aoe whirlwind that slows and sucks in enemies dealing dmg over time, second use makes a powerful attack that knock up every inside close range That would be not just cool looking op wukong, but actually interesting and balanced playable champion😀
The animal morphing ability here could be a concept for a new jungler champion. just think about it, a champion that has so many ablities but the abilities she could cast is based on the jungle camps she farm is a cool idea for a champion. and the possible extra passive of this champon is when it takes down an objective (like dragon, herald or void grubs) it will be able to have a special buff for itself.
Hold E must be Surfing on the Nimbus that can pass terrain and consume mana every second, after your release the E it create smoke area that can be used for hiding an allies like akali smoke.
Although these changes are not intended to be balanced i like the idea of E, like obviously they would need to make it so they deal less damage and not eat skillshots (and maybe making so you only get one extra target with each level up) but I like the idea of a second of confusion for Wukong to get some damage before being killed by the entire enemy team (if he only had the normal E changed, not this entire moveset)
To much in W, make it simpler while also fun. every time you hit Q it has extended range stacking 3 times (think of k'sante Q) while also building charges like (pantheon passive)--W stays the same invis is slightly extended and using Q while W is active switches Q to a thrust stance strike which does max health Physical dmg based of charges-----E is changed to a piller stance dash which allows you to dodge attacks (like fizz) lands in an AOE and hits reduce cooldowns----R is still a spin but animation is like black myth and at the end does a wide sweep into a smash stance attack
some of this is what im waiting for riot to do than making another champions with boring abilities that only do a single move and put give it a paragraph long and math calculation as a description... the only thing i can say to that is his Q and E was almost the same in their normal casting...targeting a straight area,. but the ult was cool. that multiple hit staff
Brilliant ideas for WuKong but honestly it would be too complicated in fight to use basic abilities and all should be add to make him overpowered but make his stats worse so that it would be possible to kill him early and mid game. The best way to use these abilities would be based on Hwei ability use mechanics it would be hard but fair and possible to handle
How would you use the 72 bian tho? Its a passive. Maybe tie it to your second ability in that the clone you summon would use the transform ability instead while the player wukong can move freely? Or make it replace a summoner spell lol
ekkological might have spent a little bit of time playing Blackmyth
Literally the BM version of wukong😂
Honestly you don't even need to play the game, there are multiple movies that portray his abilities way better than how League portrays him, Like Wu-Kong produced in 2017, I'm just say League Wukong doesn't have any animal transformations
Smite got him right tho, annoying monkey and dota2 he just raid boss
Loving the changes to the format as the series goes on! Maybe titling it a "Doom Bot Spotlight" could be fun?
Nice use of Blackmyth Wukong moveset 😁
true but it genuinely works haha
The idea for Q and the idea for the passive feel really reminiscent to the skills of Monkey King in DOTA 2.
Oh yeah the broken Boundless Strike that stack with your damage and critical as well...😂😂😂
@@Mexaze_ yeah, dota and lol have different laws to work by
@@Sluchayniy I like the way Wukong everytime he transform into anything he literally roasted Lycan, "Lycan got one transformation, I got 72.", Literally Neeko...😂😂😂
It always feeled like Riots Wukong didnt really capture the awsomes of the Monky King but your Version did it so good, now im really sad that we dont have this version but just a empty shell of Sun Wukong in League ^^
Bro kinda turned into Dota 2's Monkey King
noticed this too haha
or Smite Sun Wukong
Exact thoughts here too
i like the passive is so unique , but he forgot the nashor and the carpator powers
It would be cool if this ability was summoning one of his atacks (the spikes or the acid spill)
Finally a longer passive than aphelios
This would be a insanely dope idea for a Wukong VGU (obviously, balance it to fit the main game), i don't know why Riot hasn't hired you yet.
Cause it makes wukong too op. Inagine in a teamfight a janna ult then dashing in with a fckin r tornado also evading enemy strikes with q press when necessary. Also this would make the monkey king the hardest character in the game. Many mechanics to understand... OFC IT WOULD BE EPIC TO PLAY HIM... Just against him?
Eh if i would read... Now what i wrote stays there. I dont know too... He is clearly talented interested in game design and development. Balancing that?? Gl with that pfff... They cant balance the game properly as it is, not speaking about these mechanics. Also:Who knows what bugs would this cause... Viego, Sylas
@@norbertszabo7405 You know, the series is called "Doom Bot", so I guess he's aware of this being unbalanced, and did it on purpose. But even tho, every concept needs to be testet out, to make it fit. That's why it's only a concept. And the same is with bugs (but to be fair, in leagues spaghetti code everything might cause a tons of buggs)
@@LevelUp76 What the heck is a doom bot anyway? Was there a better ai before?
@@norbertszabo7405 There was a whole PvE game mode based on playing vs bots that were empowered version of themselves. AI was the same, but difficulty was set by giving champs empowered abilities. And that was looking something alike to those EkkoLogical designs. It wasn't ment to be ballanced. It was ment to be hard
Riot: We can't change Wukong. It would cost to much Bananas. Ekkological: My journeys only beginning.
this is the respect Wukong deserves not just as a champion but as a character entirely, its also very ironic how Riot has refused this champions relevance for a decade mirroring just like how Sun Wukong was treated in Chinese Mythology lol... He is barely known in the lore and theyve always refused to elaborate or write more about his character in the story... for a champion released all the way back in 2011 he has zero special interactions with any champions not even other Ionians
TBF wild rift wukong got the buff of clone following last command. Another rone Inthe bucket of wild rift being just a better game.
in Legends of Runeterra, Master Yi has another student who is envious of Wukong and wishes to be as successful as him :(
the idea of holding an ability for a different type of villain is such a simple and good idea that I cant belive its not in league on every new champ also the whole passive thing stealing monster abilities is such a cool idea and could work as an actual ultimate for a new champion + his q being able to be recast as another skill shot is visually amazing
black myth wukong type of skill set? count me in!
this video made me realize that Dota 2 is the only moba who closely captured the essence of wukong
SMITE's Wukong pretty good though
The idea of (2nd E) having up to 5 clones that last for 3 seconds (and mimics abilities with less dmg, lets say 15-20-25% of normal ability dmg) is a nice idea for an ultimate ability for a new champion or rework shaco. great work and ideas as always :)
I like how this is a mix of Dota 2 (Monkey King - weapon extends) and Smite (Wukong - shapeshifting to other forms). This is indeed lore accurate Wukong, if 'balancing' the champion isn't the issue. Good job, Ekkological!
i was thinking this if using Black Myth moveset, otherwise an AD version of Hwei kit. Making Q staff moves, W clone moves, E wuju moves, ULT can be what you presented.
Great robot! The pitching just keeps getting better and better! A lot of interesting options, it would be great to see from the developers such a variation and variety of possible abilities,ideas.... :< (small indie company,lol)
love the ideas :)
a few of us Wukong otps have been begging for a rework for ages. Since his rework he doesnt feel like a trickster and just spams q and r it's boring and doesn't represent Sun Wukong that well. It's crazy to see you also had the idea for q being a line skillshot too. smite and dota 2 already have it and it makes the most sense to me
Man, you need to get into a game design team if you're not already !
Every video is so coherent and cool, of course the champions are always OP but that's the point, I'd love to see more, really nice job 😁
Finally a champ that can do more things than ksante 😂
true
a champ with a stick weight = to earth and know more than 1k spells in his lore? Yeah obviously he is better than APE champ lol
A creativity of the skills deserve to have its own game. well done
Yeah, probably this game would be called a Black Myth: Wukong
Me: Mom can we buy Black Myth Wukong?
Mom: We've got Black Myth Wukong at home
Black Myth Wukong at home:
It would be cool if Wukong's E HOLD will launch a wave of him in a straight line like Hecarim's Ultimate.
if i had some time, i'd definitely do what you just did lol i see that black myth reference
Thank you for doing our beloved Monkey King justice. I’m a Chinese and I approve this. Love from Beijing.
This feels like you just gave a good character an overloaded kit
That Q animation is soooo well done. Bravo 👏
Son: "mom, can I get Black Myth wukong?"
Mom: "we have Black Myth wukong at home sweetie"
I really enjoy this way to do wukong... but what if his kit revolved around his clones, as this is a signiture ability that Wukong has in lore, the duplications to be a trickster. What if his ult was his clone ability and it contained charges? maybe you start with 2 charges on your first level up of the ult, then as you level your ult, you get an additional charge to a max of 5. Then replace his W with his ult, a simple spin to knock enemies up, and decrease the cast time. BUT, this is where it gets interesting, all of your additional abilities where you press and hold, those become unlocks as you level your ult as well. Similar to Kha'zix evolutions, Wukong would choose an ability to add an additional effect, and each one you described is perfect for this honestly. This way, you can have 5 clones that run around and do things, really throwing the enemies of their guard, but they all can be like 2 hit enemies, that way they are not too OP. And of course, your clones mimic you abilities, giving you a late game scaling champ who can really dominate teamfights
nice one
yo that passive ability was actually crazy, imagine if he could do that in game
Hi! Great but one note that may help with your future ideas: With nimbus strike you want to do it instantly, so the second use (with E pressed and hold) is incompatible because there's no way to detect if the user wants to hold E or use nimbus strike instantly. It happens with abilities with no windup nor channel.
I like the idea of the W. and you also have a really good point. Wukong's unique trickster trait isn't that great anymore, because new champions can do it so much better. Neeko as mentioned, but also Zoe with her R and stealing flashes and now Aurora with her little rabbit hole resets. Something about these champs being better at tricks than a literal trickster god (in myth lore) doesn't sit right with me. The same way that certain champions with certain builds have more lifesteal and survivability than a full build Vladimir, a goddamn whole hemomancer
If we make Monkes Staff Lore Accurate. He can hit anyone in the map with that Q and the entire map would be jumping when he ults.
It's a very interesting idea, it would be a really fun character to play by turning him into something like Hwei and Karma, interacting with different combinations. However I would punish him by reducing his damage due to such a diversity of abilities, as adding cooldowns to his abilities would be a disadvantage for him, seeing as he is a melee character.
As for the passive, I think it would be too big. I would limit it to after getting a dragon soul, Wukong gets a buff on X skill. For example:
- Fire dragon soul: If he blocks with his ultimate, he will reflect X% (small) damage to enemies (like a thornmail). If you choose to rotate with your ultimate, that area will be imbued with fire and will do X% damage (Like Shyvana's W).
- Wind Dragon Soul: Gain the cloud, and while out of combat you will receive a speed bonus.
This could also ‘help’ Wukong to be multifaceted and have different builds, for example with that mobility he could be an assassin, if he has that buff from the fire dragon, it would help him to be offtank, or if he takes the mountain, tank, etc.
Maybe I've freaked out a bit, but I've been infected by this creativity. I hope Riot Games sees it and takes note!
Your totally right, Wukong isn't a trickster anymore, ik that its not supposed to be implemented in the game but honestly i feel like if we actually remove the 2 cast on R + tune down overall damage AND we add the change about the dash that left a clone and the clone that last a bit longer (no control no TP, i think it would be just broken) I Feel like Wukong could be so much more interesting to play and a more noticeable identity
It would be cool when he spawns he cracks from a stone egg
Fun Fact: While in every version of LoL, Wukong is simply based on the legendary Monkey King and has no relation to him, in the Chinese version of the game, he's straight up the same Monkey King from Journey to the West.
Q fast tap is a melee range attack, Q holding to charge becomes a long range attack (like Sion Q)
W takes 1 second animation and during it wukong can dodge attacks and spells (lika when Shaco use clone). The clone that created is controllable (again like a Shaco), and you can switch places with your clone (like Zed) up to two times (kinda like LeBlanc jumps with W)
E is a dash attack that hit 3 targets and creates two clones who stay for two seconds and marking all 3 targets that was hit, using E again on any market target (in range) will make another dash to it and attack with quick knock up (like XinZhao)
R first use starts a medium range aoe whirlwind that slows and sucks in enemies dealing dmg over time, second use makes a powerful attack that knock up every inside close range
That would be not just cool looking op wukong, but actually interesting and balanced playable champion😀
its so funny that league effectively started the trend of putting wukong in a moba but every other moba made after has made a way more fun wukong
The animal morphing ability here could be a concept for a new jungler champion. just think about it, a champion that has so many ablities but the abilities she could cast is based on the jungle camps she farm is a cool idea for a champion. and the possible extra passive of this champon is when it takes down an objective (like dragon, herald or void grubs) it will be able to have a special buff for itself.
Damn this one is fun.
I would LOVE to see Doom Bot Kindred one day. (tho i think riot did it themselves when they gave Kindred 6500% scaling on Q xD)
The cloud surfing looks cool
im not surprised if riot actually makes a champ this overloaded in the game. i think you may have set their champ development team back to square one😂
This is 342 years of gaming design and balance
Riot would unironically release some shii like this and say with a straight face that theyre working hard on balance
AMAZING OMG. The jungle ONLY passive is the only thing I don't like, just like Kindred and Ivern.
Awesome video! Better than any 200 years of Riot haha XD
Hold E must be Surfing on the Nimbus that can pass terrain and consume mana every second, after your release the E it create smoke area that can be used for hiding an allies like akali smoke.
Incredible as always, and keeps getting better.
All the ideas are valid in-game and show how much you love the characters.
Riot was just toooooooo lazy with the rework.
4:44 Jax requiem
i thought how many abilities do you wanna give him? but then i remembered riots modern champion design lol
Wukong's gonna be the Invoker in LOL.
How has no one mentioned that this is literally the moveset of Black Myth Wukong
so it's basically wukong, but released in 2024
The press E ability should have been make Wukong ride the cloud and can fly over terrain and maybe also added movement speed
Although these changes are not intended to be balanced i like the idea of E, like obviously they would need to make it so they deal less damage and not eat skillshots (and maybe making so you only get one extra target with each level up) but I like the idea of a second of confusion for Wukong to get some damage before being killed by the entire enemy team (if he only had the normal E changed, not this entire moveset)
Try to increase your voice volume, at times the music and sound effects drown your voice. Great video as always
in Wild Rift Wukong clone can moving but can teleport. I really like Passive
What about a Exalted Doom Bot feels like you are the minion in a Tower Defense Game?
If it’s lore accurate, I think you just auto-win after locking in wukong
this game wouldn't be so boring if he worked on it 🔥🔥🔥
Bro keeps cooking harder everytime
To much in W, make it simpler while also fun. every time you hit Q it has extended range stacking 3 times (think of k'sante Q) while also building charges like (pantheon passive)--W stays the same invis is slightly extended and using Q while W is active switches Q to a thrust stance strike which does max health Physical dmg based of charges-----E is changed to a piller stance dash which allows you to dodge attacks (like fizz) lands in an AOE and hits reduce cooldowns----R is still a spin but animation is like black myth and at the end does a wide sweep into a smash stance attack
basically this is dota 2 monkey king
The Monke King with a grailseeker
To make it accurate he should be making 10000^10000 clones
this is what wukong should be not the booring skills that he has today
pls send this to riot so they actually turn my main into a real champ...
So basically, dota 2's monkey king
+ Black Myth: Wukong game
Modified Q is literally Monkey King's Q from Dota 2 xd
The W was actually incredible
all credit to black myth wukong
funny how i think this is less broken than some actual champs in the game
if you would design league champions i would start playing again love your work :D
...You turned him into a melee AD poke mage? Huh.
why riot hasnt hired this man yet
just play black myth wukong at this point
wukong if he was the wukong in black myth
Now I want them to make a visual rework fo wukong
some of this is what im waiting for riot to do than making another champions with boring abilities that only do a single move and put give it a paragraph long and math calculation as a description... the only thing i can say to that is his Q and E was almost the same in their normal casting...targeting a straight area,. but the ult was cool. that multiple hit staff
tbh riot should rework him into something like this, the wukong in league is nowhere near the real wukong
Brilliant ideas for WuKong but honestly it would be too complicated in fight to use basic abilities and all should be add to make him overpowered but make his stats worse so that it would be possible to kill him early and mid game.
The best way to use these abilities would be based on Hwei ability use mechanics it would be hard but fair and possible to handle
if i can weigh in my 2 cents , i think the passive might shoehorn him too much into the jungle role over top .
black myth wukong in lol would be wild
Amazing work my boy
This kit will be considered weak by 2027
How would you use the 72 bian tho? Its a passive. Maybe tie it to your second ability in that the clone you summon would use the transform ability instead while the player wukong can move freely?
Or make it replace a summoner spell lol
the passive is super intresting
this is wukong from BMW, lore accurate wukong is much more stronger than this 😂
bro a this point I need a version of this league of legends😢
YES, RIOT PLS REWORK WUKONG LIKE THAT
this kit would be to op
lore accurate wukong would be unkillable and transform into baron
Tell riot to balance it if they make it like this, and they never will. Too much things too broken just make it simple and easy.
i liked the texted one better imo
I dont mind the voice over but I still would like to have the text on screen
Jeez now I don’t wanna play basic lol Wukong