Jinx is ALIVE but where is she going??- Arcane

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  • @entgrove
    @entgrove  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +197

    There is a lot of negativity around season 2 of arcane right now. Try to remember that negativity gets the views. Also i understand many people are upset that the lore has changed so much. But sometimes taking a leap means leaving a few things behind ~Ekko.
    I think Skarner and Viktor have both changed recently for the better. The only character that has gone a bit far is Warwick and ill talk more about that in my should arcane be canon video.

    • @Trish-im9pk
      @Trish-im9pk 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      They would have just shown ekko and Jinx happy I assure you Arcane e9 would have been rate 9.9 and everyone would be celebrating it lol . though out us never a bad show , it is a masterpiece the ending just feels rushed .

    • @ksalfkdsg
      @ksalfkdsg 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Trish-im9pk jinx doesnt even like ekko in the main timeline bruh. remember before this meeting the last time they met they had a fight that resulted in her death (then later she got revived with shimmer). Also for jinx there's no way for her to stay in zaun/piltover happy she has to start over elsewhere. It's not about caitlyn she's a massive criminal and has too many lives on her hands. She has to escape somehow. whereas for ekko his primary loyalty and concern is for his people, his firelight base. He's the leader there and he's not going to elope with jinx (he likes powder in the other timeline not jinx in the main)

    • @Trish-im9pk
      @Trish-im9pk 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Bruh , I said Ekko and Jinx happy , not together , I know already what you want to tell I believe the both of them will obviously take some time before being a thing . lol

    • @kevinheraud1945
      @kevinheraud1945 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      people complain about this masterpiece ? who they fucking think they are ? lol. say that the best animation of mankind history is..."'bad??"
      dam lol, if i saw one, i report the comment for "bullshit abuse" lol

    • @skelet8337
      @skelet8337 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      About heimerdinger yordels are immortal and when they "die" they just reform from magic at the tree in bandle city the spirits made from magic the whole lore of vex is her trying to bre this cycle of reincarnation so she can die.

  • @metoo7557
    @metoo7557 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +588

    "Where is she going?"
    With any luck, to the spin off.

    • @kaito462
      @kaito462 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +32

      I hope she wil get a cameo in the next story

    • @reabsorb
      @reabsorb 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      the spin off? excuse me what now????

    • @metoo7557
      @metoo7557 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@reabsorb They've announced this series is over, but there is rumor there will probably be other adventures with maybe other characters.

    • @G_LOCKEDn
      @G_LOCKEDn 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They announced there will be 3 spinoffs ​@@metoo7557

    • @reabsorb
      @reabsorb 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@metoo7557 there is no rumor, riot already said this show would only get 2 seasons years ago and that they would expand after arcane to other regions .
      that's not what a spin off is

  • @kobbsy7441
    @kobbsy7441 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +417

    Kinda random but I never thought about how long jinx’s hair would be unbraided

    • @HK-gm8pe
      @HK-gm8pe 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +44

      she looked soo freakin pretty tho....like a little rapunzel , I just wish we would have seen that under different circumstances

    • @BlackYTK
      @BlackYTK 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +25

      Around 1,5 her hight. But lets also talk about how if it were realistic, when Jinx walks away looking at Vi, she would have epically tripped over it :D

    • @I_have_Claws
      @I_have_Claws ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@HK-gm8pe I think the reason she unbraids her hair is because she had finally lost her identity and hope after losing Isha and finally being imprisoned. The braids are a staple to her design, so I think she cuts all her hair off in the end to symbolize a new purpose.

    • @tulip5210
      @tulip5210 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I am salty they cut her hair 😢

    • @thornerg2
      @thornerg2 44 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      That bit after she locks VI in the cell, and backs off. Jinx was at her lowest, but never looked prettier.

  • @onddu2254
    @onddu2254 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +253

    "And sure there's some really satisfying deaths - I'm talking maddie..."
    That was delivered so perfectly

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      haha

    • @jackspratt7264
      @jackspratt7264 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@entgrove Bro, ya'll got theories for centuries, but you lack basic investigative and perceptive curiosity. That's not a "vinyl" that plays at the beginning. It's a steel disc. They were used in music boxes in the late 1800's in the real world.
      If you've ever seen a cylindrical music box, one that rotates like a tube and has those little metal ridges on it, this is the flat version of one of those, and they really did exist.
      In fact there is a company that still makes finely crafted music boxes from antiquity for around $10,000.00 a piece. You can find the discs around from various eras including modern ones anywhere from $35 to $100.
      It's Piltover, man. Everything there is gear-work related. Adding those music boxes with metal music discs is wickedly clever. There are no such things as vinyl record players or albums in that world.
      Go look up pictures on Google of "metal music box discs" and you will find a bunch of ones that exactly like the ones they open the show with.

    • @HK-gm8pe
      @HK-gm8pe 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      I dont know for me it was a badly written twist villain...it would have made more sense if she knew that Cait banged Vi...then she would have felt betrayed but she didnt know that so I didnt understand...it came out of nowhere , I also didnt like Caitlyn....like wtf Cait....Jinx just saved your fng life and yeah she blew up the councuil, so what? does she still dont understand how much SUFFERING these corrupt officals put Zaun trough??And she herself who she literally stained her mothers one good legacy and released grey back in Zaun...knowing there are innocent people in there, Its like she still doesnt get it....and Vi....what an awful sister , moment Cait came with keys she wasnt like " oh no my sister literally just told me that she is going to break the cycle...she knosvery well what that means...she isnt running after her even if it might be too late I dotn care....you dont just accept your little sis unaliving herself and then you F**k your lover iin that same cell your sister was just rotting in and having the worst crisis in her life.... and yeah btw I have psychotic little sister, have had some close calls...trust me Im not even thinking about banging my lover while my little sis does something soo foolish to herself.... that s*x scene just was sooo unnecessary and felt like fan service , didnt make any sense for them to do that at this moment, also Zaun and Piltover suddenly getting along after DECADES of oppression was just absurd

    • @janicesee__
      @janicesee__ 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      ​@@HK-gm8penah to me it made sense because she was always the one pushing vi to ambessa

    • @jackspratt7264
      @jackspratt7264 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@HK-gm8pe So, if someone kills your mother you're going to be worried about how much suffering THEY went through?
      Are you off that shimmer? What's wrong with you?

  • @wass77
    @wass77 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +111

    gosh when jinx screamed for isha without the background noise and music it really pierced my heart

  • @padawan7756
    @padawan7756 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +49

    Has anyone noticed that throughout the events of the series, from the warehouse explosion to the end of Arcane, Jinx is constantly being watched by ravens? Swain clearly chose Jinx for his plans, as in the final scenes, his raven shatters the remains of Jayce's hammer and takes the hex gem. The only person, aside from Jayce, who can turn hextech into a weapon is Jinx, who has just set off for Ionia. I’m convinced Swain will seize the opportunity to capture Jinx and force her to create hextech weapons for Noxus.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I talk about this in my black rose video but it’s weird. I think some are black rose (those with yellow eyes) and some are swain (those with red eyes)

    • @padawan7756
      @padawan7756 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@entgrove I could be wrong, but as far as I know, all ravens in Runeterra are spies for Swain's demon. Ravens with red eyes indicate that Swain is personally observing the situation.

  • @NoFoCuS
    @NoFoCuS 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +230

    Whoa, i didnt notice the detail that mel put maddie in a ball. Thats pretty sick.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +32

      such a satisfying kill hah

    • @blackouthorus1519
      @blackouthorus1519 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Wait what lol

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +24

      Ok that makes more sense, easier to make a sphere around her than make a bunch of angled panels specifically to headshot her.

    • @blackouthorus1519
      @blackouthorus1519 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@collecter343 honestly how did nobody notice only way something that can bounce around like that bullet did is a sphere

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@blackouthorus1519 Cause it happens so fast that you can miss it and it’s honestly not that relevant whether she does spheres vs just panels, end result is the same.

  • @cashS1106
    @cashS1106 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +49

    It’s up to Ekko to bring her back people said they would like a mini series of Ekko traveling throughout Runeterra to find Jinx.

    • @Maryln.Antoinette
      @Maryln.Antoinette 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      imagine though, like that would be really good, seeing them in a different setting and being able to experience a life

    • @RaiNyDaythefirst
      @RaiNyDaythefirst ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      I am actually planning to write a fanfiction like that

    • @Thenewkrookkud
      @Thenewkrookkud ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Traveling after her would completely demean everything he was telling her and what she was working towards. No matter the past, it's not too late to build something new. If he knew she planned to leave after the battle going after her would mean dragging her back to the past she was trying to bury.
      Were he to go WITH her could be a different story. We don't know the depths of what their interaction was after he got her attention. But he obviously had an effect on her. Maybe they both came to the conclusion that starting over would be best for her, but knowing Jinx often relies on the company of others, she could have asked him to come along. It would be cool. It wouldn't be a lot, but it would at least give us a chance to dive deeper into whatever their relationship is, since we've barely touched the surface even between these two seasons, whether it be platonic or romantic. Only thing is, Ekko is a Zaun character. More than any other Zaun character. His motivations have always been about improving his community and changing his city for the better. It'd be character assassination were they to take the chance at splitting him from that origin.
      Basically, I'm just saying i dunno. I just wanted more context with them. We only got tablescraps.

    • @theaquakotch
      @theaquakotch 42 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@RaiNyDaythefirstI would like to see that actually

    • @Tiniestwombat
      @Tiniestwombat 24 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      I think she has to eat pray love on her own. She will come back when she finds herself.

  • @annabellebrewster365
    @annabellebrewster365 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +27

    The poster of Jinx holding Vi makes so much more sense now. In the end Jinx protected Vi's future by leaving to break the cycle.

  • @thelord4672
    @thelord4672 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +77

    yooooooooo finally someone talks about jinx i felt like they kinda made her story short. but shi the ending was amazing
    !

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you liked the video lord! :)

  • @Brionick
    @Brionick 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +47

    Did u notice, ekko has the Jinx mark on his chest the pink X .. also jinx has the Infinity symbol of ekko on her biceps (right) in pink color.. also her one of her blimp blades has ekkos green infinity symbol on it. I guess they had some fun after he stopped her suicide.

    • @GladwinAbel
      @GladwinAbel 28 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      They probably rekindled off screen.

  • @Elenea__21
    @Elenea__21 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +46

    Great video, i think she’s alive too. Her “death” felt pretty weird to me. I hope she becomes like an adventurer and we follow her journey through other regions. I hope she meets Lux. Regarding season 2… It did feel a bit fast and empty sometimes. I give it a 9/10 overall..

    • @Zalarian
      @Zalarian 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      If she did die, I personally don't feel it would be a weird death. I thought it was well done, personally.

    • @KeelahSelai161
      @KeelahSelai161 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Jinx is not dead but her dead would be the only death that make most sense

    • @JustCauseFan
      @JustCauseFan ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      How was her death Weird, it was actually Perfect as end and redemption of her character arc
      I find it more weird that she suddenly decided „oh i want to live and leave Piltover leaving my sister on belief that i died“

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  42 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks Elenea!

  • @Imthebeasknees
    @Imthebeasknees 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    I also love the detail that when Ekko sees the Jinx of his timeline her hair is the same length as the Powder he just left which was really cool

  • @andrewmason6245
    @andrewmason6245 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +65

    It's possible that Ekko is going with her. "Genius and madness go hand in hand." Pretty sure the undercity still thinks Ekko is dead for the most part. He's built a community and can continue inspiring as an icon on that mural so he could disappear without making a huge stir. Biggest evidence though is at the menorial scene he only burns 1 name: Hemerdinger, who sacrificed himself to get Ekko home. With Ekko's feelings for powder there is no way he wouldnt burn a note for her. Also he isnt at the memorial on the bridge but tucked away from everyone hinting many possibilities besides the narrative relevance of that spot.

    • @iceking1580
      @iceking1580 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      No he was in the same spot he kissed powder. He thought jinx died and he burned it for her

    • @kevind3974
      @kevind3974 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      That or he stepped down.
      Scar took over when he was gone for what looked like 3 months to a year. He doesn’t need to lead anymore.
      Plus during the time he was gone scar made peace with the rest of zaun and possibly made it to the council with savika (he was invited to the war room and it would make sense for zaun to have multiple reps. 1 for each floor preferably. Just missing middle floor) so it’s not even like echos type of leadership’s needed anymore.
      The firelights are in politics now. They need someone who can play the game not play the people. Plus echos like 17 so I don’t even think he can be elected to the council.

    • @skelet8337
      @skelet8337 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@iceking1580or it could be there to show that he still thinks of her and he is going to follow her.

    • @ayabouaziz8172
      @ayabouaziz8172 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      wow this really makes sens bro T.T

    • @JoaquinThomasSantillanRo-fz5mh
      @JoaquinThomasSantillanRo-fz5mh 57 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      But remember the line “to give a step forward you need to leave some things behind”. They are refering to her leaving ekko and zaun

  • @ubermaster134
    @ubermaster134 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +53

    Heimerdinger actually can't die. No Yordle can die permanently because they are magical creatues that are eternal and respawn in Bandle City, which is their home realm.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      this is not confirmed anywhere by Riot. As far as I know its a theory but happy to be proven wrong

    • @ubermaster134
      @ubermaster134 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      @entgrove it's pretty much why Vex is depressed and sided with Viego in the Sentinels of Light Event

    • @zedeon6299
      @zedeon6299 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@entgroveit's in their lore, if they decided to retcon this then arcane is no longer canon to me

    • @guest_zzroman2076
      @guest_zzroman2076 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@entgrove When post rework Teemo kills a yordle in game, you know, using the voice lines that the people who don't read lore base their entire knowledge of Runeterra on, he says he'll see them back in Bandle City, can't get more canon than that.

    • @skelet8337
      @skelet8337 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@entgrove if it isn't canon vex will cease to exist her whole things is trying to find something that can make her stay dead.

  • @montevonwish7572
    @montevonwish7572 57 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +3

    goated vid bro, I hope that the next series (prolly noxus) will include jinx as the ppl who watched want a "happy" ending. Like imagine jinx does arrive in noxus and at the end of the series she goes back to vi and ekko

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  51 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks monte!

  • @yannkerzreho2850
    @yannkerzreho2850 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +27

    Best work on arcane, I waited for it !

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      thanks yann!!

  • @wolferex4042
    @wolferex4042 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    The thing is I was like "Surely Riot wouldn't kill a character that is currently present in League, right?" But then ofc ambessa died and I knew they weren't afraid to league champions. But yeah Jinx along with warwick most probably are alive since they didn't spend too much time on jinx's apparent death + we don't see any dead body. As long as you don't see a dead body in films or series, They are 100% not dead.

  • @someone.2067
    @someone.2067 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    I reaaaallly hope that we'll see Jinx in the next series. Also about that piano guy. I guess you're right. They never focus on smth just for no reason. They focused a LOT on this guy, so i guess we'll see him too.

    • @AmarigeKentsu
      @AmarigeKentsu 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      By the way, if you remember Jhin: Mind of virtuoso trailer, you see that Jhin killed a girl at the beginning who got the same hair and necklace than Jinx and Vi mother.

  • @Telrob
    @Telrob 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    It's from multiple sources. It's not a direct quote but Silco says in the bar with vander in the AU "The greatest thing we can do in life is find the power to forgive." Then i think Ekkos interactions with Powder influence what he says in that moment. Ekko kind of screws up with Powder at first, then apologizes and they build something together. Ekko recognizes that if Silco and Vander can resolve their issues, then maybe he can with Jinx now that he has seen that there is potential for good in her through AU Powder.

  • @kilianwallner8404
    @kilianwallner8404 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

    Thats the grenade head, so that means Cait was down there looking for jinxs body, and if she was dead we would have seen her dead body

  • @poneill65
    @poneill65 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +19

    Also, not only is that airship the exact same blimp artwork used in S1E1,.. it has one single difference,.. a clear BLUE line painted along the rear keel.
    S1E1 05m20s and S2E9 46m39s That girl (/Fortice) cannot help tagging shit!🙂

    • @wolfspirit21
      @wolfspirit21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I didn't notice that before. Just another nod, letting us know Jinx is alive. I love it. Great catch

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  50 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      wow how did I miss this!!

    • @sergioq94
      @sergioq94 12 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      I can’t see the line 😭😭

  • @LILITHSPOT
    @LILITHSPOT ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    They even took away her strings so she wouldn’t kill herself

  • @IndividualTour1
    @IndividualTour1 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +87

    Pretty sure Ekko is referring to AU Powder, and her willingness to help build the Z-drive despite her getting Vi killed in their timeline.
    - "That no matter what happened in the past,..." [AU Powder killing Vi with the hex crystal]
    - "It's never too late to build something new..." [refrencing Powder helping w/ the Z-drive, with Jinx even noticing her signature toy monkeys]
    - "Someone worth building it for..." [AU Powder building it for Ekko]
    That's at least how I interpreted his dialogue initially. Less so a statement he heard from somewhere, but more an observation from a better version of Jinx.

    • @blackouthorus1519
      @blackouthorus1519 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Same here

    • @Maryln.Antoinette
      @Maryln.Antoinette 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      thought that was just general understanding

    • @jkranites
      @jkranites 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Apparently he told her of her AU self and them….

    • @zewolfocanada
      @zewolfocanada ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I was thinking it was AU Silco saying "the greatest thing we do in life, is find the power to forgive". Not as directly related, but close enough

    • @Thenewkrookkud
      @Thenewkrookkud ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He's using that experience as a reference, but when he speaks about things that happened in the past, he's talking directly about them.
      It's a complicated dive into Ekko's character because while the "someone special" refers to AU Powder, he's also referring to his timeline's Jinx.

  • @slim46
    @slim46 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

    Heimerdinger said that he was in this timeline 1128 days and then said see you in a week - 28.11 is week after act 3 was released

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  40 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +2

      He says back in a 'wink' though, not week

  • @froostypeat2346
    @froostypeat2346 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Really great video man. My exposure to this world was through the show, and I feel like this season, and specifically this last episode, rushed or skipped what should have been pivotal moments in the story set up by the previous season and acts. As an example, the Piltover-Zaun conflit got pushed to the side too quickly in favor of Victor’s GLORIOUS EVOLUTION and the Noxus setup. It ultimately makes me feel like they wanted to use season 2 as a springboard for future stories more than giving a solid, fleshed-out conclusion to the one they currently had. The fixed runtime of episodes really seemed to hurt here.
    Still, even tho I wanted more from the show, hearing your thoughts and predictions really makes me appreciate what we got, and gets me excited for the future. They better bring back some characters as more than just cameos, cause there’s some unfinished business here!

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Im not sure they knew how popular the show would be. i think if they did we would have spread the story over another season. The next season, now that they know there is a fan base for it, will potentially have 3 seasons instead of 2.
      Agreed and I am excited for what comes next too!

  • @kaiya3559
    @kaiya3559 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    Another thing you can note is after Jinx decided to leave the cycle, she cut her hair, which looks similar to isha. But, also can tie into how hair hold memories and her cutting her braids and hair could symbolize her letting go of her past, memories and Vi, as letting go of Vi would free her from the fight between Caitlyn or Jinx.
    I loved your analysis of Jinx, and Jinx overall in arcane too

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks Kaiya!

  • @fantommoe
    @fantommoe 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Times I was brought to tears In Arcane. Season 1 finale. Isha's death. The season 2 finale just didn't hit the same...... until I watched your breakdown. Thanks for making a grown man cry at work... I mean the allergies... it's the allergies.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I too had bad allergies during arcane hah can relate alot to Alternate Timeline Benzo

  • @Draethar
    @Draethar 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +27

    Christian Linke said they are working on 3 other shows set in Demacia, Ionia and Noxus. Riot is just playing 4D Chess right now. Get everyone invested in Runeterra (moving pieces into place) then drop the MMO! (CHECKMATE)

    • @misxfitx
      @misxfitx 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      well, tbf, he said the team is considering all those places, not that they're all in development. i found it interesting he'd mention demacia and not shurima, considering there are more lore implications in arcane s2 related to shurima than demacia, but they can always just start a new season telling a completely unrelated story without having to connect it in any way to the first two seasons. was just surprised by demacia mention

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes Draethar!!

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@misxfitxProbably continuing the theme of the title where Demacia has a “complicated” relationship with mystical stuff.

    • @Draethar
      @Draethar 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@misxfitx I think there goal is to start a bunch of different story threads…

    • @Ch3z_Borgor
      @Ch3z_Borgor 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Probably noxus is gonna be next, as hinted by the crow in the last

  • @metoo7557
    @metoo7557 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    Vi routinely for the entirely of the series except once (in the jail cell Jinx locked her in) is consistently acting for the benefit of someone else. She is entirely (except the one scene) completely selfless.

  • @capsimp3064
    @capsimp3064 22 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    15:36 IDK HOW PPL KEEP LIKE SKIPPING OVER TF THAT THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENS? I’m on team jinx is alive and I agree why else would cait be holding that and looking at the ducts but the SMILE WAS AT VI, cat hears her singing and she turns her direction and smiles followed by her coming to her in the room to playfully tease her about it

  • @sweettt321
    @sweettt321 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    The ending of this video made realize that it's not often I see youtubers talk about suicidal thoughts and tendencies. Something as simple as saying that that's not the answer and that people aren't alone can help at least one person. That was really lovely

  • @fellpsyam8172
    @fellpsyam8172 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think Ekko say it to Jinx after he saw Vander and Silco on the other universe as friends

  • @blackouthorus1519
    @blackouthorus1519 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

    He didnt give up on her remember episode 7 in s1 boy savoiur and liked i said before he would be the one too save her from herself

  • @Senyin
    @Senyin 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +19

    If Jinx is going to Ionia, that makes sense. Jinx is often paired up with Yasuo in trailers.
    "You Really Got Me" and "Welcome Aboard" come to mind.
    One could argue that they are just the most popular champions, but that doesn't stop the internet from pairing them up.

    • @RenegadeSamurai
      @RenegadeSamurai 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      the internet will pair a tree and a High voltage power line if needed

    • @elpepo0
      @elpepo0 3 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      i actually can see them becoming friends. Yasuo is another tragic character with a mission of redemption and forgiveness (to himself), maybe if they meet each other she could help him with his guilt. But honestly that won't ever happen 😂

  • @austinmcgee1836
    @austinmcgee1836 43 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    13:40 Vi must have the strongest spine ever lol, neck should've snapped like a twig.

  • @daemonsoadfan
    @daemonsoadfan 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +24

    15:35 for the smile, it's one information that should have stop spreading, cause she's smiling right after hearing vi singing. The timing matches exactly, and she turn her head toward that sound. for the rest, of course jinx is alive :D

    • @Chill3Space
      @Chill3Space ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Finally! Someone saw that! 😅

    • @capsimp3064
      @capsimp3064 20 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      What I keep saying i genuinely do not know HOW ppl are missing this, like was their volume a bit lower??

  • @BoredInMyBackyard
    @BoredInMyBackyard 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    0:35 I thought Jinx surrendered. Caitlyn also said to Vi the guards took Jinx away before she could process

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      surrendered but still threw her in jail. And you can tell from the way Caitlyn talks with her she thinks Jinx should be there. Not doing anything is still a choice kind of thing

    • @BoredInMyBackyard
      @BoredInMyBackyard 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @entgrove fair yeah

  • @masony2548
    @masony2548 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    excited to see where they go to next, praying to find the patience to wait for whenever that is going to be.
    Hope you're right about the jinx call and we get to see the sisters reunite sometime in the future. Would be insane.

  • @Vawklin
    @Vawklin 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mind you, not only is there a Visual Cue for when Jinx uses her shimmer abilities. Also notice the Sound Effects (SFX) when she Shoulder Bashes Warwick, and when the pink streak moves offscreen during the explosion. Close to identical.

  • @ltdaog4528
    @ltdaog4528 38 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ekko makes that quote himself. He basically rewound to find the perfect thing to say, and that’s what he came up with. He basically has Naruto’s “talk no jutsu” as long as he doesn’t die in his attempts to find the right words

  • @padawan7756
    @padawan7756 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing job! I chat a lot with people in the comments and knew almost everything you mentioned, but it was such a delight to see it all compiled in one video!

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks padawan!! You sound more like a Master to me

  • @poko9562
    @poko9562 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    11:12 hes prolly talking abt how he gave up on powder, he did say “learn” not “hear”

  • @josephstalin5414
    @josephstalin5414 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    She becomes a volunteer soldier in Noxus invasion of Ionia on the side of Ionia for the children and to try do some good also throw in a depressed Victor in there to, trying to do some good just more humbly this time.
    Am I wrong that Victor and Jinx would make a really fun character dynamic???😂😂😂

  • @MegaPB4Life
    @MegaPB4Life 10 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Incredible video man! Really enjoyed this and definitely gives me comfort in feeling there is far more evidence for Jinx being alive then dead. I'm totally okay if she's even just a cameo in the future series, just so long as we know she's alive I'll be happy.

  • @JavelinAngel1295
    @JavelinAngel1295 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Maybe Ionia is the place that caused Jinx to be more quirky and wild than depressing.

  • @KingNox6
    @KingNox6 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    I might be bugging but when ekko is talking to jinx doesnt it look like jinx dried tears look like VI's numerals backwards.

    • @Thenewkrookkud
      @Thenewkrookkud ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah IV.
      The 4 seconds for Ekko's Z-Drive

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  46 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      really cool call out, i didnt notice this!

  • @VERZUKO_3
    @VERZUKO_3 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    15:32 caitlin smiles because vi start singing(

  • @bigc7t
    @bigc7t 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Awesome, awesome stuff brother. I love your videos. Please keep them coming. You're doing incredible work. Thank you so much.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks big!!

  • @pattoukun
    @pattoukun 33 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    this is the first video I saw form you, you hit me harder than isha. new fan over here

  • @ERElement77
    @ERElement77 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hopefully she’s going to the next series 🔥

  • @bobobod888
    @bobobod888 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    The amount of attention to detail I keep seeing in Arcane pisses me off in a good way. I think to myself "there's no reason to be so extra with the details lmaooo" Back to Caitlin, I thought she was telling future generations not to use hextech but it makes so much sense now if she was looking to see what air duct Jinx went through to escape and then smiled, looking at the monkey. I swear this show is worth the 250 million. We need another show like this.

  • @ingusviksers2975
    @ingusviksers2975 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'd wait 20 years for any kind of continuation of Jinx's story If I had to
    I hate the game with a passion but the lore and this show is breathtaking.

  • @HugoGronstedt-kb2er
    @HugoGronstedt-kb2er 54 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +2

    I miss Silco so much he is my favorit charekter

  • @BinaryKiller_Recoded
    @BinaryKiller_Recoded 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    This does also (if true) mean that we are following Jinx's perspective of everything, what she does, what she hears people talk about, this story is Jinx's... Meaning, it all started with her

  • @Artxeus
    @Artxeus 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ekkos rewind ability reverts any damage taken in the last four seconds

  • @hyper_fn_al1459
    @hyper_fn_al1459 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    good stuff dude, all the best

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      thanks hyper!

  • @Dokkalfar969
    @Dokkalfar969 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    Wherever she goes. Ekko is going to play a part in her story continuing. He’s the key to her figuring out who she’s gonna be moving forward.

  • @EdgyIntellect
    @EdgyIntellect 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    God I hope you’re right & we see our girl again!!!!

  • @budoshi-f2l
    @budoshi-f2l 40 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always liked how these writers do not insult the intelligence of it's viewers but just this once I would have liked to see jinx smiling face on that air ship . By watching your video I've just realised that powder prevents the world to become a waste land by keeping the stones and jinx created it by shooting the council that was going for peace. As. For the quote ekko saying to jinx is powder that showed him that in that time line, she didn't bday but showed, he gave up on the city and her before he met her there .

  • @MiraBoo
    @MiraBoo ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    2:04 Small correction, but there are at least two fundamental changes.
    One, of course, being Vi’s death which leads to Jayce’s Hextech research successfully being shut down. The other: Silco found the letter, forgave Vander, and never utilized Shimmer to take over Zaun. (Shimmer might still exist in some form, but it’s not widespread.)
    I’d argue that Silco’s forgiveness and the lack of Shimmer contributes more to Powder’s happiness than the prevention of Hextech. If Silco remains vindictive and cruel, Shimmer is produced, Vander gets kidnapped, and without Vi to lead the crew, the rescue may still fail.
    There might be no Hextech crystal for Powder to explode, but the fallout could still be just as traumatizing.

  • @Aragnam
    @Aragnam 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    The next show won't be about Jinx, nor any other character in Arcane(maybe in a spin-off if there is ever one). The only one character that could possibly be in the next series is Singed, because he is that much important. We won't see the other characters again; however, they could be mentioned, including other elements of the first show.

    • @tulip5210
      @tulip5210 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      the show runners said it wouldn't be about jinx and vi, didn't say jinx wouldn't still be a main character ;)

  • @fissteque
    @fissteque ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Excellent video! For those who doubt the scene with studying the ventilation layout, let me add:
    This scene has only one purpose-otherwise, it wouldn’t have been included in the series.
    Every time Caitlyn arrived at a crime scene after a major incident, she used her "detective vision" to reconstruct events. She would then return home to analyze documents, evidence, and so on.
    Why would she suddenly study the layout of the shafts
    ...while holding a crucial piece of evidence-the "monkey head"-in her hand? Just out of curiosity? No. She didn't find Jinx's body at the scene. This didn’t make her happy because, deep down, she still hasn’t forgiven Jinx. If Jinx is alive, Caitlyn and Vi’s relationship will never be fully repaired. That’s why her smile felt forced, and why she didn’t tell Vi. In her head... they’re still fighting.

    • @fissteque
      @fissteque ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      As for the others? It’s one of those shows-if you don’t see a body, they’re not dead. And they’re right. Characters have "teleported" back from the dead plenty of times, alive and well. Let’s not forget this series wasn’t made solely for drama fans unfamiliar with the original game, but also for the players who main these champions. For those people, the phrase “Legends never die” carries a different meaning.
      PS: And of course, those last 0.2 seconds before the credits... That’s how most horror movies end when the supposedly defeated evil survives.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks Fissteque!!

  • @younganimal360
    @younganimal360 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Bilgewater and making weapons for Miss Fortune would be perfect for Jinx.

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      hah this is fair and I think Season 1 jinx would have loved Bilgewate and I think she will again later! But right now Ionia just feels like a place she would wont to go

    • @younganimal360
      @younganimal360 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@entgrove
      Yeah. This Jinx needs and wants a break from all the violence. If Riven found peace in Ionia then so would Jinx.

    • @Jaemy_art
      @Jaemy_art 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@younganimal360She should just travel the valoran plains, and visit some cities

  • @TheInfiniteDraw
    @TheInfiniteDraw 36 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    This show was one of the few things I would call a near flawless masterpiece. The music, animation, choreography, art, voice acting, story telling, world building and lore etc... were all top class. The story was the pinnacle of show don't tell with layers of subtley the promote multiple painful and joyful watch throughs. People going on hateful tirades online have got to be some form of illiterate.

  • @marioluigi911
    @marioluigi911 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I didn’t notice Mandy tampered with the bomb really cool

  • @mig.vidales
    @mig.vidales 51 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    My man, i came as a passenger, you earnt your subs by the closing message. You restored my faith in humanity ✊🏾❤️

  • @rutiyafei9339
    @rutiyafei9339 41 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    ‏‪11:22‬‏ He understood this from the relationship between Silko and Wander from the other dimension.

  • @willnash7907
    @willnash7907 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think the writers 100% left it open so they can continue the story with Jinx either dead or alive, depending on what they want to do.
    I'm pretty sure it was the same with Mel, and they didn't really want to commit to either.
    I think the subtle purple line and little yellow sphere before the explosion leave it open for them to have her gotten away, saved by Mel, or dead, and have it match.

  • @Lulu-y8f
    @Lulu-y8f ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The fact that warwick gets a kind of similar skin as Vander in Arcane confirms that warwick is Vander. He is getting that post viktor transformation look in Arcane but still wolf form not the humanoid form

  • @nathansanford9439
    @nathansanford9439 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Other timeline Jinx didn't tell him that, it is just the lesson he learned from his experiences with her. She didn't "tell" him in words but that's what the situation told him.

  • @danelmore6553
    @danelmore6553 37 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    He learned it from "alternate" Power. No one said it to him, but it was the theme of episode 7. It is what he himself had to convince Powder of, to overcome her complacency with herself. Same sentiment here, same resigned psychological state, though resigned to different things because different Powder.

  • @JavelinAngel1295
    @JavelinAngel1295 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Demacia and that's where she meets Lux.

  • @littlebunse5
    @littlebunse5 3 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I think Ekko learned "its never too late to build something new, for the right person" from his interaction with alternate timeline Silco and Jinx. That was the primary message he took away from them, because it rekindled his hope that he can save Jinx if Vander and Silco could forgive each other in that universe.
    Alternatively it could have been something his mentor Benzo told him once.

  • @eliaturrini2493
    @eliaturrini2493 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing video, can't wait for your next cause i'm not sure i understood everything about jayce, viktor and ekko final scenes😅

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Working on it now! Thanks elia!

  • @Kuraudou
    @Kuraudou 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Jinx is going to Demacia. Just so she can live with Lux.
    Lightcannon is real now.

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Lux going through the mage rebellion story and runs into a homeless blue haired girl at the end would be pretty awesome.

    • @EdgyIntellect
      @EdgyIntellect 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I HOPE!!!

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really appreciate this Video, thanks for making it.
    Now all i really would like to know is where she was planning to go, I had a thought that perhaps she was heading to Noxus for whatever reason, but her going to Ionia actually makes more sense,
    Really makes me wonder if and hope that we’ll get to see her again in Future Arcane-Style Projects, ‘cause wouldn’t that be interesting, having Jinx pretty much be the thing that officially connects all of these Show and/or Film Projects together, having us go through entirely different Stories while also following Jinx’s Journey at the same time, do you think it could happen?
    Also, about her Journey, depending on where it goes, do you think she could even end up officially meeting Lux?

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  59 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks Johan! Would love to see Demacia play out and Jinx interacting with Lux

  • @The_Isaiahnator
    @The_Isaiahnator 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great attention to detail. Looking forward to your Ambessa video.

  • @Chiirushi
    @Chiirushi 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    He paraphrase/reinterprets what Silco said to him at the bar, might’ve mixed in what Vander and Powder said to him while there, too. Basically I think it was a mix/interpretation of what they all were saying.

  • @bvbxiong5791
    @bvbxiong5791 16 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +3

    the smartest analysis yet! but you missed where she's going. she told you where she's going and you repeated it twice...but still didn't catch it. they've already told us where she's going too...years ago and reaffirmed it in the ending to Arcane.

    • @TheBasicSage
      @TheBasicSage 13 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Where did they say she was going?

    • @bvbxiong5791
      @bvbxiong5791 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheBasicSage 12:51 14:52 . S Y D S Y E O - unscramble it to find out where.

  • @damiangorczynski846
    @damiangorczynski846 29 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    He got when he saw Silco with Vander and Silco said something about forgiveness being greatest power.

  • @huvi_boston
    @huvi_boston 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    that jhin call would be sick if Riot does it

  • @BigBalgruuf
    @BigBalgruuf 30 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Damn man. This is hardcore level breakdown. Good video made me less angry at the end

  • @aethilias
    @aethilias 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The ship she is leaving in is headed north-east so that would be towards Ionia.

  • @Jbomb185
    @Jbomb185 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Jinx did nothing wrong

  • @BabyJeus
    @BabyJeus 20 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Legendary video my man. Cant wait to see the next ones. I think ur 100 % spot on for all ur theories on jinx. Hey question. On the scene where they are collecting bowls for the funeral of everyone lighting the little papers on fire. Whose that jinx looking character on the left. They have same hair as alt universe jinx. Is that jinx? Red and blue color outfit and the pig tail short hair with a lil pink slip in it like alt jinx.

  • @anasunra
    @anasunra ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I loved this video, thanks!

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you like it ana! :)

  • @S_E_N_S_E_nmann
    @S_E_N_S_E_nmann 27 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I think you are right with everything, man - but ONE important thing: Loyalty is not the cause for this circle of killing.
    In the opposite all problems result from action where loyalty is missing (and if only a bit or for a tiny moment). And in the end loyalty is not only everything that really counts - in general and for the protagonists alike - it also is the base for all the really great moments/happenings and the prevention of the worst possible happenings.
    It's loyalty that makes Isha save Jinx. Several times.
    It's loyalty that makes Silco NOT giving Jinx to Piltover to put her in a dark hole or worse.
    It's loyalty, that makes Vander care for both little girls.
    And it's the loyalty to Vi, that makes Jinx not only NOT kill her sister f.e. on the bridge though on different sides but also and more important makes Jinx even sacrifice even her loved Silco and potentially her own life to save Vi's life each time.
    It is also loyalty and true love of course, that makes Silco do everything in his hands to rescue Jinx after the fight on the bridge.
    Aaaand so on.
    I personally think that Vi's and Jinx's love and loyalty to another survives all this in the end is the absolute CORE point of the whole story.
    Concerning all other things you did a very rational and well thought video. :)

  • @ThisIsOcon
    @ThisIsOcon 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nice video man!

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks Ocon!

  • @Skindred727
    @Skindred727 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    She has to go to Mordor to destroy the ring

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I would watch. Ekko would carry her in the end

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jinx attained enlightenment like Angulimala Sutta.

  • @ENORELXD2
    @ENORELXD2 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Demacia, she gotta get Lux and the others to film the wild rift trailers and get paid 😂

  • @KathyXie
    @KathyXie 55 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    In season 1 ep4 we see the airships dock on the lower levels of the hexgate tower, very convenient for her to steal one right after she escaped the air ducts without anyone seeing her.

  • @realfake6669
    @realfake6669 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Two things you forgot at the end about Warwick
    1st:
    He survived Vi's blows, Jinx's minigun and rocket and the fall onto the platform without a scratch, so he definitely survived the explosion too
    2nd:
    And when Viktor came to his senses again, all the dolls (which were previously humans) stopped moving and fell to the ground
    But Warwick went from being a professional fighting machine back to a wild beast again, means even without Victor's control the beast lives on in him and was not wiped out

  • @julianrivera9505
    @julianrivera9505 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think he comes to the conclusion himself through his experiences with powder(adult powder)

  • @redimpostor498
    @redimpostor498 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Whys no one talking about where viktor and jayce went, I felt so sad for them

  • @karnage3809
    @karnage3809 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jinx will probably shows up in noxus

  • @Champurrado04
    @Champurrado04 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'm saving this for some years to come and see how much you are correct men, ILY

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks Eduardo!

  • @varmang3675
    @varmang3675 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Only 5k subs? Ain't no way your content is amazing. I'm going to binge it all soon 😅

    • @entgrove
      @entgrove  ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks varmang!! :)

  • @BasicBas
    @BasicBas ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone notice that the tears on jynx' face in the Ekko z drive scene look like "VI" mirrored? or am I crazy XD