When not to use Checkerboard Formation
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That deployment was like a straight throwback to Empire: Total War
Yeah, somewhat reminds me of my own preferred formation for Empire. Cannons in field fortifications in the center, light dragoons just behind the cannons, line infantry on either side of the cannons, skirmishers with stakes on the flanks, and cavalry either behind my lines or off to one flank depending on the situation.
@@NRSGuardian Whereas in warhammer total war, the best empire formation is always mass handgunners, hellstorm rockets to wipe enemy archers, a steam tank to kill enemy artillery, and a big scary lord to duel whatever gets through the gun line.
Great swordsmen and their high armour /could/ be somewhat useful if half of the game's units didn't do AP for some fucking reason.
Or if missile units didn't hit like trucks
They have 95 armour. Not bad, but will still take a fair bit of damage when hit by non-AP.
@Malignard 95 armour provides an average damage reduction of 71%. 31% of non-AP damage bleeding through is more significant than the 1 point of AP damage.
Immortal Empires can't come soon enough.
Better safe than sorry. I wish the devs take as a much time as they need for Immortal Empires to be a fantastic experience.
Classic total war Napoleon formation
That was a blast to watch. Awesome as always Legend.
Surprised the autoresolve is that charitable to Karl Franz, that army looks waaaaaaaay weaker than the rat army.
Auto resolve doesn't recognise how OP skaven are.
Hellstrom rocket batteries are beastly in autoresolve. If they had one more it probably would have been a close victory.
Skaven is one of the weakest autoresolve armys (unless they manage to ambush)
Autoresolve is racist against Skaven, yes-yes.
Whole Lotta gold exp units in his army
9:20 *Kylo Ren breathing heavily*
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@@thewick-j1837 More!
Hellstorm Rocketbatterys are special artillery piece that requires special formations. I always put them back like mortals and then they destroyed my own army😂. I have learned so many different tactics Watching legends streams/ videos! Rly great content as always.
I find having them in line with my gunners/in front of my crossbows works well, with heroes in front to tank. You really don't want to have them firing if there's anything they could possibly hit that's friendly between them and the target though or they WILL find a way to cause friendly fire. I think the key advantage of hellblaster volley guns is that because they direct fire they can shoot into enemies incredibly close with effective accuracy and shot placement, whilst most other artillery becomes useless at short range (mortars can also be good at short range but require a static front line in order to deal damage, and at that point you can usually get away with magic
this one looks hard, not even a wizard
looks like a challenge even for legend
Thats what they do they Fuck best call yet.
I bursted out laughing at that moment
Haha I love that you drew a flight path in a tiny circle
The plague claw catapults crew had better aim then the jezzails; they hit the emperor in the air several times. Throt is lucky to not have lose such skillfull soldiers.
Entertaining, that one was a challenge!
Long time lurker, first time commenting.
You sir, are fucking amazing.
I just realized that I haven’t used checkerboards for a long time now. Lost too may units to vortex spells.
Checkerboard formations only work when you're not facing AoE damage dealers.
@@victuz 3 has a LLLOOOOTTTT of AOE.
CA really should have added the checkerfield formation for Brettonia
Just realised i wrote field instead of board but you're probably going to fight most battles on a field so it still works.
Nice one, I feel like you could have made the Reiksguard cav flank around and take out the artiliery much earlier though
I really gotta tap my head to this much skill.
It's always the rats.
Thanks!
Greatswords tend to fair not to well even under normal difficulty! Most high tier shield less infantry tend to underperform when fighting anyone besides chaos. Well, I guess bladesingers do well, but most aren't great. In fact, I think if you're not up against hellstorm rocket batteries, even chosen do better than greatswords.
I always just use swordsmen and spearmen and I play on normal. Don't really see the point in great weapons
Honestly the game has way too much units doing AP damage that there is no need for specialized unshielded melee infrantry for it. I think ranged units that can fire in an arc shouldn't be able to do this much damage, it makes so many units relatively obsolete in single player.
Fare*
@@shiggydiggy6847 On very hard, most player melee infantry are kind of worthless. It's understandable when your mid tier melee infantry lose to high tier infantry or cavalry. It is excusable when your mid tier infantry lose to mid tier AI infantry since the AI just needs bit of help. But it turns out mid tier infantry on harder difficulties will usually lose in melee with high leadership (as in not basic archers) enemy missile infantry _even if they get in melee without being shot._ On lower difficulties melee infantry are somewhat viable. But even without the AI cheats, high tier unshielded infantry just aren't that great.
Bladesingers are basically doomstack if boosted correctly and they are pretty good even in normal stack in very hard battle difficulty as they are pretty quick and in loose formation so dont die to artilery and missile units so fast as normal infantry.
impressive, very nice.
imagine if wh3 units were this responsive? is swear the third feels like commanding armies that are walking through jello
there's a video on youtube showing why they suck at moving.
something about changing which unit in a squad that "commands" the movement.
cant remember exactly how it is, but the video is great. Going to rewatch it now.
honestly i preffer this. This is not starcraft. If i want starcraft i play starcraft.
initial challenge "easy" they said
im really going to miss legend when he retires from live streaming.
Attila horsearcher will be formidable against this army
Best cost efficient, campaign efficient, growth efficient, time efficient, battle efficient troops for any empire army is 1 life wizard, 1 fire wizard, around 10 battle priest. With new battle priest lords, when they are level 2 you can increase capacity for warrior priest heroes. Meaning, 1 sack city, each turn new hero. You immediately get rid of any corruption, they boost growth crazy, around 600-700 growth per turn can easily be reached. their aoe abilities are super effective at battle, they are cheaper than regular army, they boost your public order, winds of magic, research rate, etc. from followers. They are further boosted with every item you find.
The difference between the NPC faction army and the "adventurers" in an MMORPG game
So what does legend use for empire front line besides greatsword for mid game when heroes and steam tanks aren’t available?
Spearmen with shields
Not as vulnerable to missiles and bonus against large
Oh and they are much cheaper as well
Hey do you think total war games in general could work on a ps5 or Xbox
If you're auto-reaolving the battles, definitely.
If you're fighting the battles it probably could with the pause mechanic. Setting formations would be a nightmare with a controller though. A lot to keep track of with a joystick.
If keyboard and mouse work on them (i mean they ARE computers) than yeah it definitely could.
@@PenguinIceDelta I know people had pretty good times playing with Steam controller back in a day.
You Can play mark of chaos
how to sweep with flying units?
issue an attack towards an enemy unit and as the unit is about to land cancel the attack by issuing a move command else where right as it lands its attack but before it hits the ground, takes some practice but its a very handy tactic!
@@scoot115 thank you
Attack a Unit, before you land for the attack issue a move order. Way easier in WH2 than WH3 because of unit responsiveness.
@@scoot115
I once won my own disaster battle with High Elves with (I think) Alistair on a Dragon in Dark Elf territory. He beat 12 full units of dreadspears by skimming and belly flopping onto them.
How to do the auto-movement like Legend did on 7:52?
Hold shift
@@MrAgramer Thanks!
Not useful when you have 19 rattling guns
This is simple don't use it in warhammer 3. Only in 2
Greatswords are super overrated in autoresolve. They cannot even win against a single gobbo in very hard.
Legend, why don't you set up battle formation at start, lock it, that way you don't have to manually reform every individual units?
Or at least just the great swords so the archers continue firing.
I thought we were gonna have skulls-reveal-stuff video since it was not on like an hour ago. Once more blinded by hope.
The event is in 3 hours though
They had 2 manticores evil thin gs the 5 archers were tomb kings it was very hard w h ghorst a von carstein bloodline and a small army of a vampire ;lady v my 2 tomb kings one a dynasty the other a regular king. w 2 heirotitains. a screamign skull 2 regular catpults. 1 lord on war sphins other a horse all my heros wonded 1 lvl 17 necrotec killed ended up my last king and heirotit v ghorst and a balecart for a win
Let me guess. No formation. Just corner camp and run ammo down?
Long line of fire with great swords coming out form behind and going back and forth.
Karl franz as distraction to separate the army meanwhile his gun line do the work with cavalry artas sing the enemy missile units.
You can’t be more wrong lol.
Hmmm, thought total war warhammer2 was over for you? Muahahahaaa!
Empire sucks
No u
I'm not entirely sure that "Legend" is an adequate enough title anymore. I propose God of Total War as the appropriate promotion.
All in favour...
i dont wanna say your not good, ut all these save batlles is just waste ammo with yor lord. and if people who watches you, but still dont undertans, shame on them