Destiny 2 Lore - Calus' Experiments on the Glykon just revealed some huge secrets of The Darkness!
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- Destiny 2's Lore tells us of Calus' experiments aboard the Glykon. These include his attempts to contact the Darkness, which as it happens were successful, and if the story is to be believed, enlightening!
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I'm enjoying how Caiatl and Osiris are now just meeting for Coffee every week while they watch us explore the Glykon
Caital "So how's the Glykon investigation going ?"
Osiris "We'll know more whe... if our Guardian comes back"
Yep
While her Psions look to murder Zavala 🤷
@@Kainslasher I’m pretty sure it was datamined that the psion assassins were Red Legion rogue actors.
Exactly
"Grow thin from triangle" said The Deep.
“Oh no not my fantastic physic!?” Said Calus back
aCtUaLlY iTs A tEtRaHeDr0n
Danger dorito go brrr
@@sawtoothtoast74 this just made my day
@@sawtoothtoast74 brapbrapbrap
Katabasis' ghost is named Gilgamesh, a Sumerian epic hero who goes on a journey to the underworld to save his friend.
ironic that it's named that considering how katabasis dies
@@Ahnock If I remember correctly so does the original Gilgamesh's friend. He wasn't able to save him.
@@linkshroom Yes. In the original story, Enkidu the friend of Gilgamesh was the first to die. His mortality shook Gilgamesh to his core and he became obsessed with discovering how to overcome death. It's reflected here because in the story what caused Gilgamesh to fear was witnesseing a worm like maggot crawl out of Enkidu's body and here you see Katabasis strung up by bunches of worm like things crawling throughout his body. It makes me wonder if Gilgamesh is trying to find a way to save his gaurdian or if it's just a nod to the tale.
Is he alive btw? I mean the ghost
@@SirBananaFunk well, we found the shell, not the ghost, the shell had been hollowed, so the true "ghost" wasn't there, so I think that's a valid point
I honestly love that Bungie has taken the Cabal from one of the most uninteresting races of D1 and catapulted them into large scale players in D2.
I honestly didn't care about them until now. They were just boring
So much lore about their culture and race nowadays truely wonderful!!
Destiny has that effect
Well i mean this is ALL of them in one system your not gonna leave without learning somethin
@@thekaijucosmos3094 Remember Valus T'Arc guardian
_Local Emperor has a massive f*cking meltdown after his Waifu, the Winnower, completely ignores him._
Thanos and death?
@@EarCat omfg it is
Like thanos and lady death lmao. Kinda.
@@EarCat lol, my thought too
A small price to pay for Salvation.
The fact that calus has such a big role in this game and we haven’t even seen the real calus yet makes it so much better
"Savathun would like to talk to you"
@@blackjackell8939 Exactly
Calus getting ghosted by the Darkness after years of social media exchange and when they finally meet? Darkness said naw so now calus is The BIGG MADD.
The background noise behind Katabasis’ last voice log sounds like the creatures described in the Black Armory Papers
Does he have a video about the black armory papers
@@realJohnBowers th-cam.com/video/W0CRSLFLRyA/w-d-xo.html he speaks about it here. That's the only part where the sound is mentioned. Also the same from the video leaked before season of arrivals.
Katabasis' VA does an incredible job at capturing how hollow, scared and hopeless he is. I genuinely feel bad for the dude every time he speaks
I know right? He sounds so defeated.
Yeah his VA is knocking it out of the park
*Calus* “Notice me.”
*Darkness* “We were expecting a wurst and instead we got a cocktail sausage and it’s not even the meat variety. It’s f*****ng plant based.”
It was absolutely disgusting, I had to fetch so much bleach for the winnower, she was not happy at all.
Callus= Darkness Dorito simp.
OMFG, what in the actual fuck, lol!
*FUCKING PLANT BASED.....ftfy
@@MrSpawley lmao
Maybe not a river. But a "Sea of Screams" if we're talking darkness, ascendant realms and hive we can't ignore Toland
YOU CAN'T STOP ME FROM IGNORING TOLAND NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY
Screw Toland. I found him 7 times in the ascendant challenge and he never gave me my loot. Never listening to his weeb, ethereal ass ever again.
Caital mentions light and dark being used as tools, then says that the one wielding them can be disarmed. This certainly sounds like a reference to the Psions Light Disruptors that Crow is investigating
As well as the cage Ghaul used to encase the Traveler during the Red War.
She did mention uldren
I think it was just a vague threat she's leveling to remind us that it's not that hard to kill guardians given the right circumstances.
Maybe for other guardians that might be true, but some of us are quite stubborn even without our Light. Us protagonists are the prime example, of course, but there have been others like Efrideet and the Drifter who are highly allergic to dying (permanently).
@@alias588 I’m pretty surr Drifter still has his Ghost, although apparently they hate each other.
So the darkness spoke to Calus in his own voice
That’s interesting because the darkness spoke to us in a similar fashion
Yes, The Darkness is formless, it can take on shapes, voices, pretty much anything. It doesn't have it's own true shape, as far as I know.
Been looking for this comment. Darkness doesn't just speak through voices of the dead, it spoke to us in our form, claiming to be our salvation. Also, ironically, all light bearers are 'dead things'.
Spoke to me in sagiras voice
@@danielabernathy6123 they actually foreshadowed this with a picture of the pyramids behind a single humanoid figure and i assumed that there might be “Darkness” guardians and I was kind of right but mine extended deeper to the point of theorizing that the darkness copies everything the light touches but instead of just reviving them it possesses or revives but malformation is what happens when it revives instead of bringing the bearer back. so back to what I’m saying is that what if the darkness keeps the person they were before reviving or every time a guardian dies it makes another or mutates the copy more and more
@@jameskimball9960 It's not in the mission, but at the end of the Shadowkeep campaign. We talk to the Darkness in a place that looks like the Black Garden from D1's vanilla campaign. It appears to us as ourselves, and talks in the same voice our guardian has.
Edit: Apparently the place they talk to us also looks like/is the garden of Salvation. I haven't done the raid and don't know the lore for it, so didn't realise, sorry for the error
When Auryx communed with the Deep, he emerged as Oryx, the Taken King.
Coming in season 14: Colus, the Dragged Emperor
i want to see that
Carlos, the Conquistador
Imagine Calus shift gender to be female (oposite of Auryx)
@@Bladings as an spanish, *N o*
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 That actually happened when Aurash became Auryx. IIRC it was the moment the three sisters made their bargain with the worm gods. So it had little to do with the Darkness, it was more related to the krill coming-of-age process.
So what if we’ve fundamentally misunderstood the Ascendant Realm? What if it’s less Hive and more a plain of existence that’s closer to the Darkness’s version of reality: oppressive and inherently dangerous, like a land in the midst of a constant storm.
I mean, the Awoken utilized it quite a bit, I always figured it was much more tied to the Dark than the Hive, they just know and use it the best.
The Mindbender from forsaken had his own ascendant plain so it's confirmed not a hive only state
Maybe the "void room" from Levianthan was calus' own ascendant plain or a part of it
@@letrollface9514 or possibly it's just calus's attempt to forge his own throne world in the ascendant realm, through the power of psions and royal nectar, and it's a partial success. Would explain why it looks completely unlike any of the other throne worlds we've seen, which are remarkably similar to the surrounding environments, and seemingly intertwined with them in ways I don't entirely understand. Although I seem to remember that you could get pulled into some plane of the ascendant realm during the mission where we stole crotas soul, and you get immediately crushed.
You make a really good point
I think that the plane is the line between light and darkness
My theory? Calus is drinking Dark Ether.
Interesting, he would have access to lots of dark ether. And it would explain why katabasis explains his appearance as ugly and disfigured. I mean, the dark ether hasn’t really made the scorn look like normal fallen so... and it could explain how he dissapeared. The dark ether. DARK ether. Doesn’t sound like it has any connection to the traveller. So maybe that’s his link to the anomaly. How he was s u c c’d by t h e b i g s u c c
Actually, that makes perfect sense tbh. The scorn were created by ether being corrupted by dark and rezzing dead eliksni to mutate and warp. This basically makes them almost direct acolytes of the Dark. It's a simple thing. But with all the experiments, I'm sure theres a logic to it but.. the royal jelly or whatever it's called. The purple shit he consumes. That, mixed with dark ether. Used as a sort of IV drip for.. whatever purpose calus is doing this. So its sustaining his life while also twisting his form not unlike the eliksni to scorn.
Great idea
@@noahkline4263 Yeah.We should also remember one thing about Dark Ether... Scorn are in a way undying. They die - but they also raise back up after a while... Or, at least Fikruul the Fanatic did. As far as we know, he might be still reviving to this day.
@@duskbringer4583 yep. They are basically the antithesis of a guardian. Give them some extra intelligence and powers and the Scorn would be a race of champions like no other for the Dark. Potent enemies to face as warriors of the Light. Could be that, maybe calus will try to use the crown of sorrows and his dark ether goo, and whatever it ends up doing to him as an end result, to command the Scorn as a new army in his quest for being the last being to die in the universe. To spread his opulence. And the Darkness' "salvation."
@@noahkline4263 if Scorn can get back up, then it might, just might be possible for each of the experimented scorn can take complete control of the ship. Just imagine how scary that would be.
Honestly, the greatest lie Savathun ever told was that the entity and the darkness are one. I think she has invented the entity to trick all who come in contact with the darkness.
Just had a several hour long conversation with a random fireteam member in which we referenced your videos several times.
The lore in this game and your portrayal of it is amazing.
❤️❤️❤️
Im so excited for the lore of this season. It has so much... Potential....
Most things made by bungie do... yet they almost never reach that true potential
They just "plan really far in advance." If you think they've forgotten about a loose end or two... you're "wrong" ;)
@@justblaze4707 I fucked up and missed the word lore, he’s right
Well, they demoted luke smith so i actually have hope for the future of destiny.
@@deadinside1662 they didn’t demote him lmao, he moved on to oversee the expansion of Destiny into other media. Y’all love to shit on Luke but forget he’s also been responsible for all the good shit we’ve gotten too. King’s Fall? That was Luke.
The Glykon is not in the anomaly at present moment. It flew through it. But it's outside now.
Agree, Byf constantly said we went into the anomaly when we didnt. The Glykon is drifting on the asteroid belt, not inside the anomaly.
i like how going to the glycon is just a casual outing now. it’s just like “honey i’m heading out to the glycon to see a dead guardian i’ll be back soon, need anything while i’m out” it’s like going to the store.
"Remember to grab a dead Mans tale once youre there!"
Also the flavor text on the Shell of Gilgamesh reads, "For ghosts who've delved into the underworld"
"Osiris sends you through a trash-compactor. If you were Cabal, I would raise you to the stars"
"you sound like your father"
"get your rock, off my map"
@@Bladings "get your drop pod off my guardian"
The whole talk about the Greek Underworld and the Winnower/Darkness being an entity and a space reminds me of Tartarus.
Yeah, doesn't help that I watched some God of War gameplay right before watching this video.
That Brute Chieftain needs to mind his own business.
It's getting a little "Pandora's Box'-y 'round here...or even Persephone maybe (if I'm remembering her story right)
Wait a sec, wasnt the whole point of tartarus that the monsters inside could revive over and over again? Like the scorn depicted in the lore here
@@gabrielpineirogarcia2078 that's only in Percy jackson
If Calus has successfully communed with the darkness/deep who is to say if he hasn’t gained some new level of power? Perhaps even the power to take. Maybe he has communed in the same manner that Oryx did. Imagine if Calus could ascend to the level of power Oryx had.
NEW RAID LETS GO!!
Very true would be quite the story so many different outcomes what if he's been given the power to take but tricked by savathun slave to her and but has been given a ascendant realm to where he can gain more power for her
Callus the Taken Emperor
brooo that would be sick
Emperor’s Fall 2022
As to the thing where the darkness speaks in the voices of the dead, didn't it speak to us in our own voice in the Garden of Salvation after the Shadowkeep campaign? Or was that something else?
Ohhh... this is a very astute observation. It most certainly did speak to us not only "in our own voice"... but as us. Now it's done the same with Calus.
it's formless, it doesn't have its own voice, so it uses our own, or our ghost, or now the voices of the dead. good catch. does this mean the weird lines we hear during our exploration (cayde, sagira, ghaul, etc) is the darkness taunting us?
we did die though, at the very start of the game you're resurrected, i saw another comment that said they thought calus was drinking dark ether, we know dark ether can resurrect dead fallen, so maybe calus died the first time he met the darkness and was given dark ether so he could be resurrected, and thats why the darkness can speak in his voice even though hes not dead. kind of farfetched but i think its plausible
@@bearbearmo287 I remember back in the Season of Opulence where Calus had mentioned in the Menagerie that he, like us, was resurrected by a supernatural force. Of course, he could be lying about it, but I'd have no doubt that he has died at least once before we knew of his existence. I mean, the way Katobasis describes Calus' form definitely makes it sound like his body is rotting. At least, it does to me.
Yeah all of this seems to be boiling down to the simplest truth (forgive my over simplification) we are all pawns on this massive chessboard between the Black Fleet and the Traveler. Both these larger than life entities are simply moving us about to see where everythin falls into place. I will be very surprised if any of the races are supposed to win or overcome these idols so to say.
What a name drop for that sword! There are two! Abide the return, and it stared back!
The lore of it stared back is interesting, speaking about calus realizing that he could become more then what he already was.
I doubt they thought that far ahead but its interesting how the name 'it stared back' becomes ominously relevant with the revelation that the darkness responded to calus. Almost as if calus had a degree of far sight.
Jonathan Young It’s in reference to what he saw when the Leviathan first approached the edge of the universe a while back
The Entity is to the Traveler as the Darkness is to the Light. They are one in the same, yet different in important ways. One is a force, that bends reality. The other is the voice, that uses the force and gives the force to others.
Makes sense:
Gardener/Light/Sky/Sphere/Traveler
Winnower/Dark/Deep/Tetrahedron/Entity
@@Audiotrocious
Nine: C u b e
Guardian: _Gun_
@@alias588 Hotel:Trivago
Calus always seemed pretty insane...sounds like he’s finally gone off the deep end
he's always been this crazy, the darkness's arrival not heralding the death of everything like he thought just pushed him to look for answers.
Haha, DEEP end!
@@Ahnock Darkness arrives. Its not the end of the World.
Calus: "B-but my fanfiction! D:"
@@Ahnock the darkness doens't kill indiscriminately, it prunes and prunes until only the one that can survive everything is left. Calus misjudged the darkness.
He wanted to become Palpatine
Just want to give props to the minor details: DMT making you feel like an old western cowboy and the VA for Katabasis who sounds out of an Old West movie.
Still waiting for the uncanny alliance with the darkness to fight Savathun
Or vice versa
I remember an old Toland passage from Destiny indicating that that the Darkness simply was. No adjectives, no descriptors. Just "...the Darkness is."
It functions on a level above us. We see it manifest, but never a core or fixture. Sorta like the Eldrazi before they got retconned. A being beyond comprehension and above classification.
MtG w00t
You are probably right, and it’s a sick idea.
Hopefully we don’t get a fucking raid boss named “ThE wInNoWer”
I wonder if calus somehow joined with the darkness in a way since he seemingly vanished after he managed to commune with the darkness and not even his loyalists know where he went and with his voice now joining the other dead voices we hear the locus speak in it seems he either died or joined with the darkness in some way
He apparently heard his own voice spoken by the locus, which is interesting
@@KyunaCookies which does fit with the MO of the darkness with how it took our form and voice when it spoke to us in the pyramid on the moon so perhaps it did the same with Cali's by speaking to him in his voice
I also believe that Calus either merged with the darkness or was granted power by it. During the Leviathan raid as we battle robot Calus, we teleport to another dimension where we fight his giant floating head that vomits skulls (I believe this to be his true form, or a reflection of the dark powers granted to him). He also saved us in Eater of Worlds after we defeated Argos by somehow teleporting us out of the leviathan’s core/belly/processing area. Not really sure if any of this has been answered in the lord or not, but I find it interesting.
If he heard his own voice, it makes me wonder if he hasn't been in a state of limbo this entire time since his first encounter with the Darkness. Neither alive nor dead. But something in between. Spinfoil hat theory for certain, but an interesting thought nonetheless. Maybe the Darkness was grooming him to become a vessel of some sort.
Maybe like Toland his soul is adrift
It would be fascinating to see a way to access the lost planets through a gateway or something, but they're just as torn up and rearranged as the Glykon is. A bunch of broken pieces stitched together in unnatural ways. You arrive on Mercury to find that what was once a plateau, standing above the landscape is now an island atop a sea of methane. You turn around to investigate the lighthouse but upon entering you are greeted with the smooth, clean hallways of the Braytech facility. In place of the infinite forest entrance is a fragment of the Pyramidion
I love how this mission started off as a “ghost ship exploration” for an Exotic and is turning into a treasure trove of lore. More please!
Anyone else feel a tad bit bad for Caiatl? She seems really desperate for an alliance and is distressed about her father as well...
She wants revenge on the Hive for the destruction of her home world. She also wants to see her father suffer because of his pacifism approach which made their people too weak to fend off the Hive. I want to ally with her as equals and be kind of like 2 friends. I don't want to necessarily join the Cabal though.
Destiny lore update - she betrayed Callus in Midnight Coup leading to Gall being Dominus and Red War. Of which Callus fled she sees him as weak for leaving them Cabul in a weaker place and even lesser when Darkness took the Cabul home world. So im with Osiris andSavalla no
same
"The emperor is gone, may we abide his return" meanwhile Abide the Return is the dreaming city sword that crow saved osiris' life with on the moon last season. Probably a coincidence but I thought it was cool
The whole story of calus has been very interesting to me ever since I found out he was a robot
He’s not a robot. Those robo-calus you see after every leviathan raid were just built by the loyalists. Calus’ real form is disfigured, rotten and gross. He’s nothing compared to the man he used to be.
@@vuvuzela4570 hell he may not even have a physical form anymore according too different lore sources
@@lukefurno1151 but katabasis met him. Katabasis saw the ugly thing calud was.
@@vuvuzela4570 what I meant is when I found out he was a robot and not the real Calus
So, the Entity spoke to Calus in his own voice....kinda reminds me of a certain someone, who spoke to us in our own voice wearing our own face at the end of shadowkeep main story.
Also remember our old buddy Oryx? How he communed with "the Deep" and emerged as the Taken King? I have a feeling Calus is on a similar path and will eventually return. An admiral of the Black Fleet perhaps?
As for hearing "the voices of the dead", I believe it to be just a general effect of the Darkness doing what it is meant to do. Where Light creates infinite possibilities, Darkness condenses everything, every possibility that Light created, into a singular point. "As if every permutation of the ship's existence collided in one space", referring Glykon's state, after entering the anomaly. And thus everyone hears voices from their past, as that past is being pushed ever closer by the Darkness.
Okay, tinfoil time's over. Love the vid. Love y'all. ❤
A lot like Event Horizon I would like to say!
Darkness is like Galactus and Calus is begging to be his herald.
Nah, the darkness is black winter
I thought of this after last week's video, but these Darkness plant things. ... Remember in The Forsaken Prince lorebook, when that Legionary removes his helmet and his face is covered in seeds from the Black Garden? Could these plants be what spawned from those?
We all felt that that moment where the Locus teleported to him. That sudden rush of panic thinking your about to die.
GOD THAT HAPPENED EARLIER I SWEAR I HAD A HEART ATTACK
That goddamned thing omaewamou'ed behind me and stomped me into the ceiling, it was straight up a NANI- moment.
Not gonna lie, been watching a lot of lore stuff here not only makes me enjoy the game a lot more, but seeing some of the concept art and stuff like that makes me really want some of those armors we see other guardians wearing.
Kataboses is wearing foetracers, nobody wants to wear that
This “entity” sounds like an SCP. Very cosmic horror on this mission.
You gotta give bungo props for this mission. Its Just a mission, but has more insight than a dungeon
The Void is also mentioned in Greek mythology as a Primordial being before even the titans, along with Khaos and Order. Could go along with the idea of the traveler being an agent of Khaos, the Darkness is Order and a 3rd we've not heard of being Void
Aphelions maybe
The 9 would like to present you a gift.
Tbf, "The Void" is actually mentioned several times in lore as an actual place, and not the same as The Deep. It's mentioned in Voidwalker and Nightstalker stuff as a place you can visit, that stays with ya after you leave, n drives some insane
@@scarybubblegum5100 very true, but in most mythology a place can also have an embodiment, such as Tartarus being both a place and a being. As well as, I mentioned Void as a primordial just to represent a truly neutral entity. Khaos is kind "let life live" like the traveler, where Order is controlling and "do what I say, how I say it" like how the darkness is being portrayed. Void reminds me more of the 9, which they could be a representation of, where the actions aren't done with malice or praise, just done. It's an idea where the story could be going with how heavy we see the base number 3 in the game.
Perhaps, but I just meant we have possibly already been introduced to the 3rd side, being The Void, as mentioned several times in lore
THe analogy with the Greek mythology is good even tho The darkness wouldnt necessarily be Hades but much rather Tartarus, because he is the personification of the true dark
That bit where they mentioned hitting the Acheron and getting twisted I imagine would've hurt a lot, and the Acheron was the river of pain.
Isnt erebus the god of darkness ? Tartarus is no god but a prison complex.
@@thomaatoes2874 Tartarus was a prison complex in the same way a black hole is small
@@thomaatoes2874 You see Tartarus isnt just a location. Its a living Thing in its own territorry that consists of Itself. Tartarus is the ruler of Tartarus and yes he is no god. But that isnt because he is weak but more the gods represent something good and everything else doesnt.
Tartarus in Greek mythology was one of the original few primordial forces, along with Chaos and Aether. Both an intelligent entity as well as a vast plane of existence. When Hades/the Underworld was brought into existence, Tartarus and it were linked/joined in some respect, but Tartarus is distinct. In some of the original writings it was described that "Tartarus exists as far below Hades as the living world does above Hades."
You kind of get the idea that it's essentially a pocket reality with its own unique rules, which would explain why it might make a perfect prison for unimaginably powerful creatures such as the Titans.
Bonus fact: Gaia felt enraged by Zeus' casting of the Titans into Tartarus, so she and Tartarus joined together and produced Typhon, the Father of All Monsters, who was the embodiment of destructive nature and was the only thing more powerful than Zeus. In their first encounter, Typhon ripped Zeus into tiny bits and scattered those bits all over the world. Hermes raced around the world and gathered the bits, putting Zeus back together, and Zeus picked up a mountain and trapped Typhon under it, but was never able to destroy Typhon. That's part of the reason evil creatures are thought to reside below the ground, and also part of the cause of earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
TMYK
It may be worth noting that Gilgamesh, as in the namesake of Katabasis's Ghost, is an ancient mythological figure with many ties to the Sumerian Underworld in his own stories, adding yet another interesting Underworld connection/reference to the happenings aboard the Glykon
Do you think that Caital is going to become an ally after all of this?
I'm pretty sure by the end of this season, we will ally with Ciatal and the Cabal Empire.
Wheter we wanted it or not, we've stopped the war with the cabal [loyal to caiatl]
@@antares8826 do you have different thoughts now, one year later? :D
Osiris knows more than he is letting on, and I feel that’s why he was and continues to be interested in working with the Cabal and Caiatl. Osiris and Crow give us a line during the final HELM quest part that a major Vex prediction involving Zavala was decoded suggesting that there is one that shouldn’t involve him, which could tie into Traveler’s Chosen lore of Zavala potentially being corrupted.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how relaxing Byf's voice is?
You always tell the best lore stories my dude. Excellent, as well as very thought provoking. I just soloed tonight, and listened to all of this new material. Some of which I hadn't researched yet. This is turning out to be one heck of trip into darkness.
Cool cool, thanks for keeping us updated with the lore Byf!
“Spin foil hat”. Damn that’s a good ass term.
I'm so glad I found this channel, Bungie has done some really good work this season but I wouldn't understand half of it if Byf wasn't here to explain it. I Love this game.
Thanks BYF / lot to think about / love the connections / thanks for your work
I liked your point on how Calus’s hearing his own voice was special, however the darkness also spoke to us at the end of shadow keep with our voice and face. Maybe the darkness chooses people
Epic video. Thanks byf. I'm mad excited to see what's coming
9:33 "The station's name was A113"
Destiny casually throwing in a Pixar/Disney reference
This Glykon arc is an incredibly good step forward for destiny 2 content and including lore in game. Really hope they do more of this!
Thanks for another great lore video.
The darkness stared back 👀
(Like the raid sword lol)
And meanwhile, the Vex are just chilling in the background, watching all this unfold and patiently awaiting their turn...
Never thought I’d see cabal, fallen, and humanity working together. This story is getting very interesting
So much story in this recent mission, lovely stuff.
Papa lore and his sweet gravy! Thank you for what you do in our community, you f**kin' legend.
I'm always looking forward to what new developments await us on the Glykon. What news mysteries and discoveries will unfold. This is such great story telling!
That river/gateway reminds me of the sphere thing in the movie event horizon with Sam Neil.
Cool stuff.
The story of Glykon and the progression of Battleground we getting each week is very intriguing. It makes each week of the season feel refreshed
I have been waiting for this!
The eeriest mission coated with questions even weeks after its debut. This is getting close to being one of my favorite stories in destiny
When the darkness spoke to calus in his “own voice” I assume it’s referencing how in shadow keep the darkness spoke to us in a cutscene appearing as our guardian
Could the fact that we are now wielding a portion of darkness would be a reason we can now move through it easier. Or could it be the fact that technically our Guardians are already dead and had been resurrected via our Ghost's channeling of the Light from the Traveler. Good points made and I do love the Greek/Roman mythology linking within Destiny.
SCP: Destiny edition.
Containment breach
When your playing gambit look at the plants on the drifters ship, Same plants from the glykon.
Osiris notes this in one of your first runs
yeah, I mentioned this to my friends the first time we boarded the glykon, they're identical to the plants in the backroom of his ship where his little campspot is
Drifter has some explaining to do 🤣
I love that this is almost like Destiny's very own Event Horizon Storyline. Soon as I read the Lore that movie was the first thing I thought of. Can't help but think of it everytime I visit the Glykon and now with these references Byf mentioned it feels like this is a direct Easter Egg for that flick
Usually I listen to these while falling asleep but these glykon videos are giving me nightmares
It seems there’s a chain of command in the light and dark. Winnower-Pyramid ships-hive and what not. Gardener-traveler-guardians. Maybe in one of the expansions coming up we’ll commune through the traveler to the gardener. Loved the video, can’t wait till we see some answers.
Yay, lore to listen to as I do seasonal challenges
Sounds to me like Katabasis' voice actor and Uldren/Crow's are one and the same.
mm what if... katabasis is actually the rezzed uldren sov and the one we know as crow is savathûn? i mean there’s the lore of hawkmoon and i remember another one that savathûn tells shes been walking around the city in disguise....
Awesome video!
Just what I needed right now
Great stuff!
your presentation and voice depth is so similar to vaatividya(dark souls lore youtuber) that i deadass thought its him :D great video mate
Watching your videos makes me miss Destiny less. I don't feel like I can pick it up after not playing for so long (FOMO mostly), but I always did love the lore and story of Destiny. You do the community a service with your content, keep it up.
Hey Byf, I just want to point out that the general setting and story of the Glykon remembered me about a movie from 1997 called "Event Horizon". That movie is a terror movie about a ship that is testing a warp engine and disappears, and when it shows back they send a team to investigate, only to find horrors and such.
The ship is in a constant process of being sent into "hell" and back, they listen to the voice of their past failures/regres, there is a "flame-like villain". Most of the things check.
I say this because I do not believe that the Glykon is still inside the anomaly. I think it was expelled from it, maybe as a lure, but since not only us, but also Cabal are capable to enter the Glykon (and also all communication) I do not believe that we are inside the anomaly when playing the mission.
Still, I would suggest watching the movie, it does have some similar scenes to what we see in the Glykon (if my memory serves me well)
The lore alone in this game makes it hard for me to jump ship to any other looter shooter & your telling of it is like tuning in to a popular TV show!!! This is so great!!!
I love the videos that are just Byf’s purest brain thoughts
Out of curiosity, has Bungie ever thrown something in that's inadvertently become a red herring? Acheron also has ties to Aliens which, let's face it, the environment and atmosphere is leaning heavily into.
Not saying that it is, but that's where my mind went to rather than Greek mythology (which is probably a reflection on my pop culture brain).
Its game over man!
Hey, so i just jumped straight on your newest videos comment section to tell you this: i was just having a good time at the tower when i heard it, the postmaster robot humming it, svathuns song...
Speaking of rivers, I immediately thought of the intro video of beyond light where it looks like the swirls and eddies of a river are overtaking the planets lost to the darkness.
One thing that connects to your point is that the Deep is both an entity and a place, Hades similarly is both the name of the Underworld and the Entity that rules it. Great video by the way.
Man I sit hear and watch you video's like one giant movie..... Trying to track the story of Destiny is a task to say the least
the Glykon is the best lore book destiny has ever made. Its a story you walk through. Thats epic.
Yeah, absolutely. The biggest of Destiny's flaws has always been the way it taught it's story. The glykon is incredible
A connection I'm surprised I didn't see made, was that all the rivers in the underworld -- Acheron(woe), Lethe(amnesia), Styx(souls), Cocytus(lament), and Phlegethon(fire) -- all lead to tartarus. Which is the DEEPest part of the underworld. Made for the torment of the wicked, not to mention also being a primordial being... similar to the deep seemingly being both a place and a thing... maybe it too is a primordial being...
I’m calling it now, next season we use the glycon to access the vault of glass. Considering the vault can be anywhere at anytime and how the anomaly’s of the glycon seem to put you through different times and realities it could pop us back up at the vault. Also the vault of glass is merely a copy of the glycon anomaly’s by the vex with vexy differences
interesting
I initially thought the secret mission was going to involve cocytus station before the season started. Glad to know I was partially right and that the anomaly is most likely related to it.
This Mission of communion with the Dark brings me more and more, time and time again, to Dark Souls and how Darkness is contextualized in that world's Lore. I do feel some influence of it in these logs and especially how the Dark is a space and a entity, some force and power alongside of it.
As my "mentor" Mr. Spock would say with a raised eyebrow. Interesting.
Just a note: The river Lethe has also been referenced in Destiny previously, albeit as the name of the Lethe Noblesse (which, coincidentally, was rebranded and offered to us in the Crown of Sorrow Raid as the Calus Noblesse). The river Lethe is best known as the river Achilles was dipped into, which made him almost invulnerable. And this legend is also mentioned directly in the Truth to Power lore book.
Fascinating!
You KNOW today’s boutta be a good one!
That thumbnail is amazing
Awesome vid, but something I cant shake about the Glykon and the Deep with relation to Xol. I wonder if the dialogue in the Whisper mission were excerpts or quotes taken from our future guardians lives.
"You shall drift" - Xol; We first drifted to the darkness over the past year or two, and a man named the Drifter helped us along the way.
"There is no light here"-Xol; was also said by Osiris upon entering the Glykon. To my knowledge, Osiris had no communication with our Guardian in the Whisper Mission which makes his line fairly organic.
"You shall drown in the Deep" - Xol; And now, onto the near or far future of Xol's potential timeline for us, where, in the spirit of this video and speculation, we would potentially meet our reason for Lightfall: the Deep. I would say its safe to assume that our Guardians have the potential to sway too far to the Darkness, just like we were purely Light based in the past.
Could Xol of been telling us about the Glykon way back in Warmind? Could we eventually fall victim to the Deep, just as Calus, and trigger a decent into a situation where we lose our Light? Find out next week, on Dragonball Z!