We do have the expansion "The Witch Queen", and that can refer to Eris. Makes a bit of sense since she is called the real witch in the lore of The Dark Future
I like to think at the end of The Dark Future, when the Traveler starts to glow brilliantly before Elsie wakes up back in the Tower, it’s throwing off the cage again, turning back time and sending Elsie back itself, giving her another chance to avert that future.
"A singular beam of blinding Light tears through the black sky with the velocity of a shooting star, headed straight for the Scarlett Keep" That's Zavala hitting the fattest fuckin' yeet of all time at Eris' toes
I was playing out the whole thing in my head, it was mind-blowing. The sounds, the sights, the voices. This is further evidence Bungie should make a movie or episode-series about the story instead of making the game. I was far-more captivated in this 30mins of lore than I have been playing Destiny in the past 6 months
Plot twist: the darkness leaves realizing the story is stale and the challenge disappointingly gone Players: aight we're out, this is boring, you're boring. Darkness: screw you guys, I'm going home
@@Samuel_Loegan if they built up eramis' story like they did with oryx and savathun i 100% garuntee that it would've been much better... but here we are
@@Doppel834 hmm hmm :) , right now we can't see Eramis as a good villain type of character. Also, her character feels so...cliché, she wants to destroy us Guardians and whatnot yadda yadda. But when we see Oryx, it just doesn't feel cliché with him. We killed Oryx's son and he wants revenge, that's not something you see everyday
There were two interesting parts that stuck out to me in the last lore card: -Ana mentions "a world beyond this conflict" when trying to convince Elsie to join her. This makes it seem like the Darkness is promising some kind of new world to all the dark guardians, though it may not actually intend on fulfilling that promise. -Elsie doesn't choose to travel back in time, it just seems to happen whenever she has truly lost. Maybe the Traveler's doing it so it can eventually find a timeline where it beats the Darkness? Maybe it's Vex tech, maybe Clovis installed some kind of time travel thingy in Elsie's body that she subconsciously activates whenever she kills Ana. Though either way, it also brings Elsie's motivations into question: does she really care about humanity's survival or is she just looking to save her sister and/or get herself out of the time loop?
@@Nina-NerdyReindeer groundhog day, happy death day 1-2, probly another, re zero, the skeleton who couldn't defend his dungeon. Which of these was it you are referring to
@@lunararmy1624 na its like the one dude was a soldier died multiple times then realized these alien robot thing was making everything reset had to destory the device to stop reset from happening
Honestly even if it was for her own reasons, I don't blame her. She seems to be adept in the use of Stasis and handles it decently, so doing this for her sister is something I would understand
I love these types of apocalyptic stories. Where we see unusual crossing of different locations, characters, and objects from past stories in the universe . Zavala and his willingness to forcefully take the traveler using Ghaul’s trap. Mara taking control of the leviathan. Rasputin in an exo piloting the leviathan. Eris and her control of the darkness, the hive, and vex. These all create a great sense of finality, scale, and climax that I hope we get in the next two expansions.
I'm so glad you decided to cover this lore book, it's by far my favorite in the game. Beyond Light may not have been the biggest DLC, but it was top-tier in terms of the lore we got.
In all honesty, it takes a lot of effort. I actually have to sit down, listen and digest what he has to say. This is not a light video you listen to during work. You have to savor and chew every word he says, because it might reveal something you have missed. But is it worth the effort? Absolutely.
We need to be there for Eris as we have always been since The Dark Below. Together with Elsie’s guidance on how to use the darkness without succumbing to its temptations we can avert this dark future and hopefully finish off the Osmium Dynasty for good
I think that's why this timeline is different. We are there for Eris and are her friend, she has helped us and us her. We also accept Crow and are his friend as well.
What a miserable book it would be. Byf does amazing but this is a betrayal everyone sees coming, and the betrayal doesn't make sense. To be honest it really underwhelming and doesnt hold up after the first reading.
@@ArcherWillows ahh the destiny shill arives. I quite lietrally said byf did a great job. The fact remains that destiny does not have as much lore as several others. And this particular lore book is rather poorly done. Re read it. Literally every character is sus of ana yet they all let her come along. You actually think mara would really nit be checking ana out very step IF they brought her along. She bareky trusted her own brother, but will give ana the chance to backstab her. Lol ok. Com9kete contrary to her character but ok. They all imply they will kill her if they have to....then dont and let her screw up the whole plan. A plan that was working lol. There are soooo many more but those are some big obvious ones. Dont have the time to do a Mauler style takr apart of the book but no irs not well thought out. But it is entertaining for a one time read.
The full extent of darkness powers are given to Eris, while Zavala and the crew has to take the traveler's pure light by force, that is kind of ironic.
Its a mad idea but i think we are going to capture the traveler when it tries to abandon us, just like it did with the eliskni. Then we will force the light out of the fucker to capture the darkness and use it's powers for good. I mean in the dark timeline we do capture the traveler after it left us like ghaul did soooo
@@mrxerxes7947, If the fucker tries to leave, we shove it in a Dyson sphere? Ight, when do we combine both Light and Dark, to create a unholy alliance. The light gives control, and the darkness gives us power. A limbo Guardian, but requires a lot of self control. And confidence of our actions.
@@nesty9289, Fuck it, what if we just shove the Traveller into the darkness(or maybe the conquer). What if humanity created a grand crusade to unite what's left of all willing species and maybe new ones to maybe subjugate the Traveller and tell him to get a job. And to tell the Darkness to fuck off like a Drunk out of a bar.
@@mrxerxes7947 I find funny that everything I've heard from destiny wants to push the idea that the traveler is "the good guy", and the fandom seems to distrust it and be all happy about doing the same thing the bad guys did in vanilla destiny2... I think bungie and the fandom have very different opinions about it.
@@buffpeteydinky7748 well we don’t know. Since we messed with the timeline and kept him from dying, for all we know shaxx, Saint, and salad man all held the last like of defense so that zavala could dip. It has tons of open ends. But it’s kinda disappointing to know that my two favorite characters would die in the final war.
Yeah that's like kinda weird... But on the over hand I mean like... Eris is like... Idk yeah nah actually I can see this in like a "I planned ahead of ur planning ahead" kinda way u know Outsmarting the which queen and then like putting something like a really really really strong hive curse on savathun Or ripping out her worm making her mortal and like using it as her own source of power and shit u know
@@themightybeen7856 our character yes, but I think he means US. Like 4th wall breakage. Our character has succumbed to the dark before but now we have control over what we do with our character. I think he also means the nine are aware of US and breaking the fourth wall
@@InsomniaVirus_ point is in our timeline we had elsie's help with the black heart. in the dark timeline we did not. hence the lack of corruption in here
Thank you byf for being a true lorekeeper. My friends and i have been guardians since the beginning and you always feel like an elder warlock giving knowledge from the future, the past and the present. keep up the good work and may the light guide you.
Byf, I’ve said it like 1000 times. I’m really glad to see your uploads again. Make sure you take care of yourself in the meantime, my man. Peace and Love
Imagine that when we get to go back to Mercury. That the Darkness has corrupted Osiris Sundial and it allows us to travel to one of these dark times. Seeing everything destroyed and maybe even fighting against Dark Guardians.
byf does have a big backlog of videos to make and post so that may have already been made and still needs to be posted or may be in the making currently
Every time I fall asleep watching TH-cam on my ps4, I wake up and bring the ps4 back from rest mode and it's always at a different place in the Destiny History video. I've probably accounted for at LEAST 500k views alone lol
Once again Byf, you fail to realize that our guardian was a part of ALL the timelines. Elsie tells us "You...were no exception" to falling to Darkness. We were there in the other timelines. What cause the divergence wasn't us in the game, it was us as the player.
Maybe it's another version of us, we might have never conquered the black garden like Byf said, we are stronger and more capable in this timeline, it's not like Elise knows what we did specifically that's why she's observed us in d1 because we were acting in a way the previous timeline versions of us never acted.
Ana in Twilight Gap: ignores orders and follows Shaxx, then deserts Tower military to search for an AI with multiple personality disorder and on the spectrum. Ana in Final Moon Battle: betrays her own sister over popsicle powers. WHY IS THAT HERETIC STILL BREATHING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?! For Darkness sakes, if this was the 40k universe...
@@Birbucifer true, but either Ana is on the same spectrum as Rasputin or is the most narsistic character in the franchise. Who else deserts a critical post to search for an over-glorified machine?
@@bobisconsumed520 She faked her death when the tide of battle was in their favor, I don't think her post was very critical at that point. I'm not really vibing with the whole ableism thing you got going on with these comment tho.
I shared the hell out of the Complete Story Of Destiny video. Gave the game more meaning when playing. And now my friends and I enjoy talking lore while playing. Thanks for the videos. 🙏
It’s mind boggling to think that all this would have happened if Elsie didn’t talk to us on Venus to destroy the black garden. This is like a crazy butterfly effect!
She doesn't care about the war between dark and light cuz her people is born from both and she probably prefers to live far from the traveler as she hates that it provocates constant war between light and dark at the cost of lives giving hope where there is none so she might have got partially of what she wanted at the cost of the safety of her people
Mara Sov is pretty much the only character who can in any way hope to stand a chance intellectually against savathun. But savathun is the Hive God of cunning and trickery and mighty enough that her being a third force next to darkness and light is not too far out of reach. That anyone can even be close to her is impressive enough
I remember when you published the complete story video I saved it for later cause I was on my way to a birthday party. Party went pretty well other than that I had to walk home at 3 AM through 7km of pitch black forest, completely by myself. Your video really kept me sane and focused and I don't know what I would've done without it. I don't know why I'm sharing this you just reminded me of this story. Thanks for your content and keep up the awesome work!
The dark future sounds way more fun that what we have now in game. Can't believe what I'm saying but we need more massive battle scenes that are cod/halo like
So basically, this is ground hogs day for Elsie. It's kinda like Terminator Dark Fate. No matter what you do, the future events will happen one way or another. I wonder if Elsie ever tried changing events like Cayde 6 lives instead of dying or tell Zavalla that she from the future and knows what will happen.
Your channel pulled me back into destiny i play my nightfalls and strikes and gambit to your videos playing in my headphones and it makes for a amazing experience. Thankyou mynameisbyf
I feel like everyone is forgetting that the Witch Queen is mentioned here, so we gotta put some doubt in this being the actual dark future. Like her trying to make us doubt Eris again.
In part 1 were told that Eris is controlling Savathun, and yeah we're gonna kill her when the expansion comes out but it's a different timeline where we aren't their
I look up towards the Scarlett Keep, my focus breaking away from the battle that consumes me. I see Zavala above head, saturated in the Traveler's light, descend onto the Scarlett Keep. Even in the midst of battle, I can hear him shouting something. A name unfamiliar to me. Jenkins? I cannot recall anyone named Jenkins. Now or prior to The Bombardment. A Warlock under the immense power of Stasis breaks me of my trance. Back into the fray...
This all makes me very curious as to what role exactly the Nine play in all of this. They seem to be beyond simply Light and Darkness, and are communicating with various characters, including us. What's their goal in all of this? What's their stake? They have enough interest to commune with us and send Xûr to equip us with Exotics. But why?
As BioShock Infinite's Elizabeth (I see what you did there Bungie) aptly said, "constants and variables". Events and players may have changed slightly, but it seems we're heading in the same direction nonetheless. In the Destiny universe, it seems obessesion is the path towards the Dark Side and Eris and Ana have walked that razor's edge for too long now and they're primed to fall. In the Regarding Stasis lore book, Eris' tone is that of one who has toppled over already. In the new Grimoire Anthology, there is an entry of what appears to be Ana's first communion with the Darkness, tho I admit it's hard to determine if that's "our" Ana or that of another timeline. And then there's Eramis, tucked in her nice stasis coccoon. Perhaps, when all is said and done, everything's inevitable. And it'll be up to us the player to determine if we will make a difference or if, ultimately, it will be Destiny fulfilled for everyone.
I like to think we’ve also given Eris a purpose she didn’t have in the dark timeline. We avenged her fireteam, we killed hive gods, we gave her hope and helped her grieve. Eris has a purpose to fight the darkness, not to purely seek power anymore. She’s not motivated by grief or revenge
because that's the only way to actually kill a guardian of the light. also, ana probably turned to darkness before this encounter so her ghost either fleed or was killed by Eris.
I wonder if this is why our ghost says that he has finally found us. Maybe we are the being that will break this loop and the traveler has been looking for us through all of these time turn backs.
So did the traveler send elsie back to the beginning of this “loop”? Maybe it’s not a punishment, maybe she was also chosen by the traveler, and it’s saying “find a way”.
Almost feels like most of this story WILL indeed play out. But since we're the anomaly, one/ a few actions by us will cause a Domino effect and change the outcome, aka we're the chosen one.
I get the feeling that lightfall will include some form of the bombardment where xivu arath takes eris's role as the darkness's champion and attacks the city
I was under the impression that Elsie was jumping timelines of her own volition, not that she was being forced into these other timelines. Who or what is forcing her to live this? Where are the other Elsies?
This was a great lore book and it actually gave me some thoughts about the future of the game. Now the whole part about Eris being corrupted seems like a possibility in the witch queen dlc because there are several reasons why like she studies the darkness extensively and talks a lot about savathun and studies her ways and in the season 11 opening cutscene she talks about savathun and Zavala is shocked on how she knew so much. But anyway this is probably one of my favorite lore books because of how interesting it is.
After hearing all this the only thing I'm curious about is what happened to Crota and Oryx? Plus with the revelation of Eris turning out the way she did in the dark timeline, in ours after we defeat Oryx in the campaign not the kings fall raid. She otters something like "it is done my queen" I originally thought she was referring to Queen Mara Sov but what if it was Savathun all along she serves?
I think we might still be on the path of this, Caiatl appears to have a willingness to work with others meaning alliances with our enemies may not be off the table
Its possible. Ana did ask elsie to teach her stasis in our timeline too. I think some guardians showed some signs of corruption too but they didn't fully turn yet, shaxx showed corruption at least. Alliance with the cabal probably will happen as we see in season of the chosen and we know mara sov will come back physically. We also have fallen allies. All that is left is eris to reveal that she is the witch queen, if she actually is the witch queen.
What if it's the Vex. What if they realized Elsie's potential to save then from their fate, of being mere pawns on Eris's chessboard. So they set her on a loop, back again and again. It doesn't line up with their usual simulations, but perhaps they don't have time for that, so they use Elsie instead. This seems very unlikely, but your comment triggered this idea and I had to share.
@@mortimerbalbriggan9766 Gamer word? You mean nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnNemesis Star?
Why didn't Elsie warn everyone when she went back in time she could have saved cayde, and I know she doesn't care about the time-line because she tries to change it
I gotta start by saying I absolutely love your content. And I think that I always have. I've read this myself but you narrating it gives it a different feel entirely. Thank you for what you do
I have long predicted that Eris will supplant Savathûn and lead the Hive, though it’s interesting that in the dark future Eris kept her alive. Hoping that if she does take up the mantle she stays on our side this time around. Even if it means she has to leave again.
Zavala to the Traveler: "Why are you running, why are you running?"
Someone needs to photoshop Zavala's face on that guy.
Traveller: HEEEEAAA
Why are you running
*Eris turns to Darkness*
*Entire Community* "We're not surprised."
She was like halfway there anyway in Shadowkeep.
I still wouldn't be surprised if she turns in our timeline
We do have the expansion "The Witch Queen", and that can refer to Eris. Makes a bit of sense since she is called the real witch in the lore of The Dark Future
Im just so bothered how we cant just off her now that we know
@@spooky_4624 because this is a different timeline with different ways of events.
Zavala yeeting the Scarlet keep like a true titan.
As Hush would say he's the best Titan who ever Titaned, and he'll Titan until he Titaned all his Titans
I would have been extremely disappointed if he didn't do that.
Does anyone have a link to the previous video which leads up to this one please
@@pheonixeternal8981 th-cam.com/video/LPX5p6g_nV0/w-d-xo.html
@@sawota Shaxx would clap Zavala's cheeks 500 times over lmao
I like to think at the end of The Dark Future, when the Traveler starts to glow brilliantly before Elsie wakes up back in the Tower, it’s throwing off the cage again, turning back time and sending Elsie back itself, giving her another chance to avert that future.
The Traveler is paracausal so it would make sense if it had some control over time.
That might very well be the case
"A singular beam of blinding Light tears through the black sky with the velocity of a shooting star, headed straight for the Scarlett Keep"
That's Zavala hitting the fattest fuckin' yeet of all time at Eris' toes
Mmm hive toes indeed
@@d4davidg302 hive toes 😳
@@d4davidg302 Where's them Savathun feet pics at
Imagine if he was using that new chest piece 👀
lol
The traveler, when he gets caught for a second time: "OH COME ON! NOT AGAIN!"
🤣🤣🤣
Ey yo he was like
"Ahhh shit... Here we go again..."
they must be acting like a brat when stuck in that cage, simply sitting there very, VERY annoyed.
Lamar "Maybe if you got rid of that yee yee ass shell... You'd get some guardians on your side!"
Technically She, but yeah.
Imagine an animated short or some visual media about this story it would be insane
If any lore book is gonna be made into a comic, it has to be this one.
I was playing out the whole thing in my head, it was mind-blowing. The sounds, the sights, the voices.
This is further evidence Bungie should make a movie or episode-series about the story instead of making the game. I was far-more captivated in this 30mins of lore than I have been playing Destiny in the past 6 months
Wish Netflix would pick up Destiny and do an Anime style retelling
@@SALEENS7GTR5 the show should be called “The Traveler” from the creators of destiny
pls bungie, include these in ur campaigns or make a damn movie already
Gotta love how Eris practically put the vex in time out
"practically" Nah fam, she straight up did.
Yup lmao
TIME out (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
She did, she really really did
The Darkness seems to be working... my friends online haven't been seen since stasis came
Plot twist: the darkness leaves realizing the story is stale and the challenge disappointingly gone
Players: aight we're out, this is boring, you're boring.
Darkness: screw you guys, I'm going home
:OOOOOOOOOOO
@@jesussaldana4558 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, yeah Beyond Light doesn't have a good story like The Taken King
@@Samuel_Loegan if they built up eramis' story like they did with oryx and savathun i 100% garuntee that it would've been much better... but here we are
@@Doppel834 hmm hmm :) , right now we can't see Eramis as a good villain type of character. Also, her character feels so...cliché, she wants to destroy us Guardians and whatnot yadda yadda. But when we see Oryx, it just doesn't feel cliché with him. We killed Oryx's son and he wants revenge, that's not something you see everyday
I'm pretty sure the bodies Elsie is referring to is a crowd celebrating, not casualties.
14:14 You do that *very* well, Byf.
You're right 👍 they're celebrating the hunter vanguard Cayde 6 for "killing" Taniks The Scarred
He miss the chance to say “This time we can change Destiny “
drifter in his mansion in the IX's realm: "damn this crap just got real"
Drifters body was found dead in the DSC in this timeline not to upset Drifter fanboys
@@upcomingwhisper4990 Drfiter being taken to the IX Purgatory™️
@@upcomingwhisper4990 I wouldn't be surprised if the IX took his spirit or something after he died.
There were two interesting parts that stuck out to me in the last lore card:
-Ana mentions "a world beyond this conflict" when trying to convince Elsie to join her. This makes it seem like the Darkness is promising some kind of new world to all the dark guardians, though it may not actually intend on fulfilling that promise.
-Elsie doesn't choose to travel back in time, it just seems to happen whenever she has truly lost. Maybe the Traveler's doing it so it can eventually find a timeline where it beats the Darkness? Maybe it's Vex tech, maybe Clovis installed some kind of time travel thingy in Elsie's body that she subconsciously activates whenever she kills Ana. Though either way, it also brings Elsie's motivations into question: does she really care about humanity's survival or is she just looking to save her sister and/or get herself out of the time loop?
What can tell its like that one movie kinda forgot the name evertime the dude dies its reset to that point in time so he try again to stop it.
@@Nina-NerdyReindeer groundhog day, happy death day 1-2, probly another, re zero, the skeleton who couldn't defend his dungeon. Which of these was it you are referring to
@@lunararmy1624 na its like the one dude was a soldier died multiple times then realized these alien robot thing was making everything reset had to destory the device to stop reset from happening
@@Nina-NerdyReindeer i beleive that is edge of tomorrow, with tom cruise
Honestly even if it was for her own reasons, I don't blame her. She seems to be adept in the use of Stasis and handles it decently, so doing this for her sister is something I would understand
this lore sounds like something a warlock would write while snorting Alkane Dust.
A warlock myself i can confirm a lot of us are alkane addicts although i personally prefer etheric spirals
Personally I've been hitting the Bayron Bough
@@JB-tl8rj baryon doesn't get you that high though
@@Monarch_Prime easy to find though
I inject myself with phasglass needles
And yes there lazed with crayons
At first I thought she knew how to travel through different timelines...but now i realize she’s just living one big Groundhog Day
Thankfully she's an exo and more resilient to MADNESS
I think it’s the traveler who is making her go back in time to find a timeline where it wins
I love these types of apocalyptic stories. Where we see unusual crossing of different locations, characters, and objects from past stories in the universe . Zavala and his willingness to forcefully take the traveler using Ghaul’s trap. Mara taking control of the leviathan. Rasputin in an exo piloting the leviathan. Eris and her control of the darkness, the hive, and vex. These all create a great sense of finality, scale, and climax that I hope we get in the next two expansions.
I'm so glad you decided to cover this lore book, it's by far my favorite in the game. Beyond Light may not have been the biggest DLC, but it was top-tier in terms of the lore we got.
Yes! If only the game was as good as the lore, there would be none better.
Bruh, watching you vids takes like no effort, you don't need to thanks us, we need to be constantly thanking you for your hard work and commitment.
Period 😏🏆💯
In all honesty, it takes a lot of effort. I actually have to sit down, listen and digest what he has to say. This is not a light video you listen to during work. You have to savor and chew every word he says, because it might reveal something you have missed.
But is it worth the effort? Absolutely.
@@Dinnye01 Yes, you have ascended to lore novice, byf’s soldiers in combat
@@superspacesponge9728 One of these days. I am an Elder Scrolls Loremaster... but very far from even touching the Lore Journeyman on Destiny.
We need to be there for Eris as we have always been since The Dark Below. Together with Elsie’s guidance on how to use the darkness without succumbing to its temptations we can avert this dark future and hopefully finish off the Osmium Dynasty for good
*Meanwhile all the guardians in our time-line* "AH HELL YEAH NEW POWERS, TEMPTATIONS? WHO THE HELL CARES, GIMME."
I think that's why this timeline is different. We are there for Eris and are her friend, she has helped us and us her. We also accept Crow and are his friend as well.
@@m4gzy144 Yeah most of us say screw the traveler and the light gimme broken darkness powers.
@@AxisChurchDevotee b-but Trials, b-but Crucible...
@@fel524 Yeah but we still gave her the blade of Oryx while she gave us the ways of making swords
I will say this,
The Dark Future Lorebook should be a book.
What a miserable book it would be. Byf does amazing but this is a betrayal everyone sees coming, and the betrayal doesn't make sense. To be honest it really underwhelming and doesnt hold up after the first reading.
@@morsorcus8152 lol
In time, it might well be. Maybe an instalment of the Grimoire Anthologies.
@@morsorcus8152 i'd love to see you do better.
@@ArcherWillows ahh the destiny shill arives. I quite lietrally said byf did a great job. The fact remains that destiny does not have as much lore as several others. And this particular lore book is rather poorly done. Re read it. Literally every character is sus of ana yet they all let her come along. You actually think mara would really nit be checking ana out very step IF they brought her along. She bareky trusted her own brother, but will give ana the chance to backstab her. Lol ok. Com9kete contrary to her character but ok. They all imply they will kill her if they have to....then dont and let her screw up the whole plan. A plan that was working lol. There are soooo many more but those are some big obvious ones. Dont have the time to do a Mauler style takr apart of the book but no irs not well thought out. But it is entertaining for a one time read.
The full extent of darkness powers are given to Eris, while Zavala and the crew has to take the traveler's pure light by force, that is kind of ironic.
Imagine if in Lightfall, we have to choose which timeline we live in at the end of the DLC.
Its a mad idea but i think we are going to capture the traveler when it tries to abandon us, just like it did with the eliskni. Then we will force the light out of the fucker to capture the darkness and use it's powers for good. I mean in the dark timeline we do capture the traveler after it left us like ghaul did soooo
@@mrxerxes7947, If the fucker tries to leave, we shove it in a Dyson sphere? Ight, when do we combine both Light and Dark, to create a unholy alliance. The light gives control, and the darkness gives us power. A limbo Guardian, but requires a lot of self control. And confidence of our actions.
@@Butter_Warrior99 it WILL leave us in dire situations. Gods will be gods, after all
@@nesty9289, Fuck it, what if we just shove the Traveller into the darkness(or maybe the conquer). What if humanity created a grand crusade to unite what's left of all willing species and maybe new ones to maybe subjugate the Traveller and tell him to get a job. And to tell the Darkness to fuck off like a Drunk out of a bar.
@@mrxerxes7947
I find funny that everything I've heard from destiny wants to push the idea that the traveler is "the good guy", and the fandom seems to distrust it and be all happy about doing the same thing the bad guys did in vanilla destiny2...
I think bungie and the fandom have very different opinions about it.
“Perhaps the light will fall”, I see what you did there Byf, very clever
The sad thing is that shaxx or Saint aren’t in this story, which means they went down fighting, like expected.
Sorry to reply so late but this means Saint prolly died in the forest like he had before so at least he still has his vex shrine in there
@@buffpeteydinky7748 well we don’t know. Since we messed with the timeline and kept him from dying, for all we know shaxx, Saint, and salad man all held the last like of defense so that zavala could dip. It has tons of open ends. But it’s kinda disappointing to know that my two favorite characters would die in the final war.
@@Notatitanmain ya you’re not wrong all kinds of possibilities could happen especially without our guardian in the mix
@@buffpeteydinky7748 yeah
We all gonna ignore the fact that Zavala awakened his Devil Trigger in chapter 8?
What?
@@MyNameMojo Devil May Cry. Wild stuff. Many Dante references.
Nice reference
I love the effect you used when you were reading elsies lines, nice touch
Twas cool
"you cant unhear the virulent tune of Savathuns song" -Byf
also byf : uses it as background music
I didnt know how elsie timetraveled but this makes it seem like she basically tom cruise in edge of tomorrow
I’m surprised this actually would’ve happened without Elsie interfering in D1. Hard to imagine Savathûwûn being out-galaxybrained by Eris
Yeah that's like kinda weird... But on the over hand I mean like... Eris is like... Idk yeah nah actually I can see this in like a "I planned ahead of ur planning ahead" kinda way u know
Outsmarting the which queen and then like putting something like a really really really strong hive curse on savathun
Or ripping out her worm making her mortal and like using it as her own source of power and shit u know
I both love and hate the fact that you called her Savathûwûn
@@joshuafranz7416 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Is that her new nickname?
Wild to think this dark timeline didn’t even know who the fuck the witness was
What makes this timeline different is us, the player. The Nine knows it.
I could be wrong but didnt Elsie say even the player character was corrupted by stasis or something like that
@@themightybeen7856 our character yes, but I think he means US. Like 4th wall breakage. Our character has succumbed to the dark before but now we have control over what we do with our character. I think he also means the nine are aware of US and breaking the fourth wall
@@InsomniaVirus_ point is in our timeline we had elsie's help with the black heart. in the dark timeline we did not. hence the lack of corruption in here
A dark alternate future where Humanity FEELS & the Darkness won.
Humanity FEEL. Lol I love the video description.
Gorillaz knew before we could even understand
feels?
Jeeze its like Dark Souls
@@slorchman672 wait what 👀
One of many
*Ana Stabs Mara
*
_the simps are all mine now_
Not as long as Elsie lives
I'd simp for Ana when she was still voiced by Jamie Chung :/
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@arnoldgoh5625 Well said bruh. Her current VA just doesn't capture the magic of Ana Bray's character as well as Jamie Chung does.
@@JB-tl8rj agreed
Thank you byf for being a true lorekeeper. My friends and i have been guardians since the beginning and you always feel like an elder warlock giving knowledge from the future, the past and the present. keep up the good work and may the light guide you.
Byf, I’ve said it like 1000 times. I’m really glad to see your uploads again. Make sure you take care of yourself in the meantime, my man. Peace and Love
My favorite line: “Then darkness. n”
I love that he pronounced it too, lol.
"...nnh."
Imagine that when we get to go back to Mercury. That the Darkness has corrupted Osiris Sundial and it allows us to travel to one of these dark times. Seeing everything destroyed and maybe even fighting against Dark Guardians.
A bowl of hot curry, its 1AM in the morning and I have a Byf video to watch
time well spent
Traveler tried to keep running and we said "Oh tf no you don't! You brought that shit here, you ain't leaving us to suffer in your shadow"
Humans always have liked the “you break it you buy it” mentality
Could we get a lore vid on the mask of bakris?
edit: it’s a lot to take in especially one who isn’t as experienced in lore as byf is
I completely agree
I mean, in short its the face of Atraks before she became an exo
@@billgeannaris8919 yeah but I’m sure there’s more
byf does have a big backlog of videos to make and post so that may have already been made and still needs to be posted or may be in the making currently
That new beginning. The day Cayde-6 got Taniks and became hunter vanguard. Good day to begin with.
R.I.P Cayde 2018
Every time I fall asleep watching TH-cam on my ps4, I wake up and bring the ps4 back from rest mode and it's always at a different place in the Destiny History video. I've probably accounted for at LEAST 500k views alone lol
Once again Byf, you fail to realize that our guardian was a part of ALL the timelines. Elsie tells us "You...were no exception" to falling to Darkness. We were there in the other timelines. What cause the divergence wasn't us in the game, it was us as the player.
@Sean Beebe There’s a reason the traveler chose only The Guardian to get their light back during the red war.
@@MaxM227 I'm probably also supposed to assume Shaxx Raze-lighter for a reason too?
Maybe it's another version of us, we might have never conquered the black garden like Byf said, we are stronger and more capable in this timeline, it's not like Elise knows what we did specifically that's why she's observed us in d1 because we were acting in a way the previous timeline versions of us never acted.
that would make a sick destiny spin off. where us the player ends up playing this out, and we’re fighting everyone at the end
Ana in Twilight Gap: ignores orders and follows Shaxx, then deserts Tower military to search for an AI with multiple personality disorder and on the spectrum.
Ana in Final Moon Battle: betrays her own sister over popsicle powers.
WHY IS THAT HERETIC STILL BREATHING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?! For Darkness sakes, if this was the 40k universe...
The Inquisition would like a word
If she didn't follow Shaxx, the tower would have most likely fallen and we wouldn't have a last city.
Im sorry but..."There is but one truth and it is CHAOS!"
@@Birbucifer true, but either Ana is on the same spectrum as Rasputin or is the most narsistic character in the franchise. Who else deserts a critical post to search for an over-glorified machine?
@@bobisconsumed520 She faked her death when the tide of battle was in their favor, I don't think her post was very critical at that point.
I'm not really vibing with the whole ableism thing you got going on with these comment tho.
I shared the hell out of the Complete Story Of Destiny video. Gave the game more meaning when playing. And now my friends and I enjoy talking lore while playing. Thanks for the videos. 🙏
It’s mind boggling to think that all this would have happened if Elsie didn’t talk to us on Venus to destroy the black garden. This is like a crazy butterfly effect!
Cell - tell me kiddo, what do you know about time travel?
Trunks - Less than I should.
Yess! Really interesting lorebook. Was waiting for this
Rewatching this now again in season 22, we are dangerously close to this now...
If Mara Sov was as smart, clever, and cunning as she is fluffed up to be in the lore then she would have foreseen all this coming.
Smart, clever, and cunning...but not all knowing.
Zavathun is the god of trickery so I don’t blame her being fooled
She doesn't care about the war between dark and light cuz her people is born from both and she probably prefers to live far from the traveler as she hates that it provocates constant war between light and dark at the cost of lives giving hope where there is none so she might have got partially of what she wanted at the cost of the safety of her people
@@gumball5024 I've seen the community ship many characters, but Zavathun is something new xD
Mara Sov is pretty much the only character who can in any way hope to stand a chance intellectually against savathun. But savathun is the Hive God of cunning and trickery and mighty enough that her being a third force next to darkness and light is not too far out of reach. That anyone can even be close to her is impressive enough
Damn, this was a kick to the feels to listen to. Kinda sad I fell off playing Destiny during this time, but thanks for the lore!
Sounds to me like Clovis Bray made his Granddaughter into a fail safe.
I remember when you published the complete story video I saved it for later cause I was on my way to a birthday party. Party went pretty well other than that I had to walk home at 3 AM through 7km of pitch black forest, completely by myself. Your video really kept me sane and focused and I don't know what I would've done without it. I don't know why I'm sharing this you just reminded me of this story. Thanks for your content and keep up the awesome work!
The dark future sounds way more fun that what we have now in game. Can't believe what I'm saying but we need more massive battle scenes that are cod/halo like
Speaking facts honestly😂
Right now it seems we might have to fight the entire Last city. 😀
So basically, this is ground hogs day for Elsie. It's kinda like Terminator Dark Fate. No matter what you do, the future events will happen one way or another. I wonder if Elsie ever tried changing events like Cayde 6 lives instead of dying or tell Zavalla that she from the future and knows what will happen.
(11:38 pm) and i finally get my bedtime story
It made a timestamp... edited it out
Good for you
Yay 🥱😴😍 lol
12:18 AM for me
Your channel pulled me back into destiny i play my nightfalls and strikes and gambit to your videos playing in my headphones and it makes for a amazing experience. Thankyou mynameisbyf
I feel like everyone is forgetting that the Witch Queen is mentioned here, so we gotta put some doubt in this being the actual dark future. Like her trying to make us doubt Eris again.
But isn't the best lie the one which tells the unwanted truth?
but elsie said that eris turned to obession and make a dark hive god.
This timeline is different cause WE are here I believe
But isn't this one of the timelines that Elsie visited that fell to Darkness not our dark future?
In part 1 were told that Eris is controlling Savathun, and yeah we're gonna kill her when the expansion comes out but it's a different timeline where we aren't their
I look up towards the Scarlett Keep, my focus breaking away from the battle that consumes me. I see Zavala above head, saturated in the Traveler's light, descend onto the Scarlett Keep. Even in the midst of battle, I can hear him shouting something. A name unfamiliar to me. Jenkins? I cannot recall anyone named Jenkins. Now or prior to The Bombardment. A Warlock under the immense power of Stasis breaks me of my trance. Back into the fray...
Is this actually in the lore book?
@@floppa7826 unfortunatly no
Destiny: the movie I would love to pay for that.
This all makes me very curious as to what role exactly the Nine play in all of this. They seem to be beyond simply Light and Darkness, and are communicating with various characters, including us. What's their goal in all of this? What's their stake? They have enough interest to commune with us and send Xûr to equip us with Exotics. But why?
Zavala out-titaning the most titan titan makes this dark timeline way brighter than it should be. Takes all the light he can and just yeets at Eris.
As BioShock Infinite's Elizabeth (I see what you did there Bungie) aptly said, "constants and variables". Events and players may have changed slightly, but it seems we're heading in the same direction nonetheless.
In the Destiny universe, it seems obessesion is the path towards the Dark Side and Eris and Ana have walked that razor's edge for too long now and they're primed to fall. In the Regarding Stasis lore book, Eris' tone is that of one who has toppled over already. In the new Grimoire Anthology, there is an entry of what appears to be Ana's first communion with the Darkness, tho I admit it's hard to determine if that's "our" Ana or that of another timeline. And then there's Eramis, tucked in her nice stasis coccoon.
Perhaps, when all is said and done, everything's inevitable. And it'll be up to us the player to determine if we will make a difference or if, ultimately, it will be Destiny fulfilled for everyone.
I like to think we’ve also given Eris a purpose she didn’t have in the dark timeline. We avenged her fireteam, we killed hive gods, we gave her hope and helped her grieve. Eris has a purpose to fight the darkness, not to purely seek power anymore. She’s not motivated by grief or revenge
I wonder who axed oryx and crota in that timeline
If the chronicon is Calus' secret fanfic journal, this lorebook is Elsie's secret fanfic journal
have I told you, the definition of insanity, Guardian?
I just watched you first one on this yesterday and was like “damn when’s the next one coming!?”.....you can only imagine how happy I am today
1:17 why does everyone keep losing their ghost?!?
because that's the only way to actually kill a guardian of the light. also, ana probably turned to darkness before this encounter so her ghost either fleed or was killed by Eris.
This is why I love destiny and it's community. Even more so why I love this channel!! Great video! I look forward to more content, Byf!
my eyes popped out of my head when I saw this while scrolling
I wonder if this is why our ghost says that he has finally found us. Maybe we are the being that will break this loop and the traveler has been looking for us through all of these time turn backs.
So did the traveler send elsie back to the beginning of this “loop”? Maybe it’s not a punishment, maybe she was also chosen by the traveler, and it’s saying “find a way”.
Eris: You can't defeat me
Elsie: I know, but he can
My Guardian: *loads Fellwinter's Lie with malicious intent*
Almost feels like most of this story WILL indeed play out. But since we're the anomaly, one/ a few actions by us will cause a Domino effect and change the outcome, aka we're the chosen one.
The only question is how much changes...
I get the feeling that lightfall will include some form of the bombardment where xivu arath takes eris's role as the darkness's champion and attacks the city
nice touch in the music selection. storm the keep when they're launching the attack to the witch queen :D
I wonder if, in those other dark timelines, Eris turns to the Darkness when she also had the loyal support of Ikora and our Guardian?
I was under the impression that Elsie was jumping timelines of her own volition, not that she was being forced into these other timelines. Who or what is forcing her to live this? Where are the other Elsies?
This was a great lore book and it actually gave me some thoughts about the future of the game. Now the whole part about Eris being corrupted seems like a possibility in the witch queen dlc because there are several reasons why like she studies the darkness extensively and talks a lot about savathun and studies her ways and in the season 11 opening cutscene she talks about savathun and Zavala is shocked on how she knew so much. But anyway this is probably one of my favorite lore books because of how interesting it is.
Thank you! No one tells these stories better than you do!
Interesting how Stasis is the only power that Dark Guardians used and not other kinds of powers from the Darkness
After hearing all this the only thing I'm curious about is what happened to Crota and Oryx? Plus with the revelation of Eris turning out the way she did in the dark timeline, in ours after we defeat Oryx in the campaign not the kings fall raid. She otters something like "it is done my queen" I originally thought she was referring to Queen Mara Sov but what if it was Savathun all along she serves?
I think we might still be on the path of this, Caiatl appears to have a willingness to work with others meaning alliances with our enemies may not be off the table
Its possible. Ana did ask elsie to teach her stasis in our timeline too. I think some guardians showed some signs of corruption too but they didn't fully turn yet, shaxx showed corruption at least. Alliance with the cabal probably will happen as we see in season of the chosen and we know mara sov will come back physically. We also have fallen allies. All that is left is eris to reveal that she is the witch queen, if she actually is the witch queen.
my god byf you're awesome every new video is better than the one prior to it, mate you're breathtaking
I wonder if the traveler keeps sending her back in time when it fails to try and get the victory
What if it's the Vex. What if they realized Elsie's potential to save then from their fate, of being mere pawns on Eris's chessboard. So they set her on a loop, back again and again. It doesn't line up with their usual simulations, but perhaps they don't have time for that, so they use Elsie instead.
This seems very unlikely, but your comment triggered this idea and I had to share.
I love listening to your Lore Stories about Destiny, Byf. Keep up the great work! ^__^
I'm a simple man, I see new Byf, I like.
0:31 No, Thank YOU. I can't imagine the amount of work that took, and we shouldn't take it for granted
He even said the little "n" at 22:03
LMAO
Is that there for a reason or is that a mistake?
@@elitegamer9310 its the stranger trying to say the gamer word before she loses
@@mortimerbalbriggan9766 Gamer word? You mean nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnNemesis Star?
Btw something you may not have noticed when in the HELM, is that Crow is humming Savathun’s tune
Elsie is actually going to teach ana how to wield stasis instead of keeping it from her.
Wow! This Dark Future Lore Story up there in quality with the Books of Sorrow! Love it! The lore is SO GREAT!!!
Dude.... This lore book felt like a fever dream
you are one of my favorite youtubers and I love your content!, keep going!
so the Traveler is constantly sending Elsie back in time before it gets destroyed as a messure of last resort?
The exo strangers voice you did was very well done!
Why didn't Elsie warn everyone when she went back in time she could have saved cayde, and I know she doesn't care about the time-line because she tries to change it
I watch the complete story of destiny like 10 times no joke I had too much free time. Your videos are amazing
"i will do what i must" - obi-wan - elsie bray
Amazing quote from two amazing characters
I gotta start by saying I absolutely love your content. And I think that I always have. I've read this myself but you narrating it gives it a different feel entirely. Thank you for what you do
I have long predicted that Eris will supplant Savathûn and lead the Hive, though it’s interesting that in the dark future Eris kept her alive. Hoping that if she does take up the mantle she stays on our side this time around. Even if it means she has to leave again.
Zavala's Thundercrash in this lore was foreshadowing for this season's Thundercrash exotic armor
Byf, please get a side job in audiobooks. Your voice is GOLDEN ❤️👏🏽👏🏽
Wow! Had my emotions all over the place lol great alternate story/ universe hope to see more lore videos!!