Video Idea: Spend way too much time trying to use the art assets of Fury's Rage to then guess what Scott's narrative intent for Security Breath was. Based on his last interview, it seems like Scott had a specific story for Security Breach but failed to communicate it to the team properly... BUT... He MADE Fury's Rage. So it's lore-hints may represent Scott's intentions.
I want to bring up another, equally valid interpretation of The Immortal and the Restless that was actually given to us by michael in the logbook. Which is that the show represents Fazbear's ineptitude and willingness to be ignorant to the obvious even if it's staring them in the face. its an official take on the show that i never see anyone really mention that i find very unique and interesting considering how prevalent yet understated FE are in the series even now. and how even around sl (or more likely 6 considering its source's release) FE's shadiness was still a prevalent plot point scott likely wanted to tackle in more depth.
3:13 Logbook says Mike relates most to Clara, if that changes anything. (I agree with the rest) 6:35 i see it more as... Afton does to Fritz (4th MCI kid) what Pitt-trap does to Oswald. Coax him over to the safe room. And that's enough, as the kid follows. Fritz is then killed, no contingency required. (The contingency being he replicates what happened at his house during MM) While Oswald ESCAPES. And what happens...Pit-trap follows him, and goes to his house, through the front door. As for "Fritz=4th"... (the main points, as there ARE more) 1. Fnaf 3's arcade minigame buttons map onto GGGL. 2. ITP have you face off against Chica, Bonnie, then Freddy, and Oswald is implied to become Foxy...Giving you the same order. Finally, Susie fits the 2nd story. Jeremy is abandoned by his parents l, based on SB's comedy bot (no evidence for how THAT maps onto the 3rd story). Gabriel fits the 4th story, if you see it as "let's go to your secret party (remember HW's Pizza Party where you become Freddy). All your (live hostages) friends will be there." And Fritz is coaxed to the back room, simple as that. The 5th story. 8:20 Cassidy (Possibly Cassidy Andrews, being related to TWB's Mrs Andrews) is still an unknown, but is DEFINITELY the 6th story (possibly Springlocked, and definitely the MOST violent). Then we have Charlie as Story 1. Charlie is lured away from the door with a "come and help me with work", from Afton. (Security Puppet shows Charlie dies PRETTY FAR away from the window, so she must've been lured away to Afton's car, before being killed) 7:55 + 12:20-13:42 And then we have ONE character who dies before even Charlie. Someone we don't see in the cutscenes. If Charlie dies in late 1983 (books have her die on Halloween, while it's implied she dies in 1983) and Elizabeth dies in 1985 (based on 1578 being Jan 7th 1985), then the ONLY murder we know that happens before then is CC/BV/Dave. The kid killed by Foxy Bro, hence the hook. (Although TC implies it was a murder though)
10:00 just wanna add something to make his point stronger Matthew Lillard literally said in an interview that their job in that movie was to deliver lore. So knowing that the movie is meant to solve lore and that the movie portrays Golden Freddy as the vengeful spirit and well it paints a pretty clear picture.
Nice video as always Tho I will say something I'm surprised you didn't brought up regarding the immortal and the restless Was the fact that in the survival log book Mike says that of all the characters from the show he relates to, he relates to Clara the most Which draws in a connection between Mike and Clara Which is the only officially presented connection that show has with any other character Making it much stronger than Clara being connected to Miss-nonexistent-Afton Who's only connection is that they exist and are both womans and are married to a guy
Mike relates to Clara because there has always been a bunch of crazy things happening in his life and William always says he’s not involved, but he obviously is. I think Cryonide’s thoughts can be simultaneously true.
I found that more of a joke See their is a huge misconception in the Fnaf community related to Michael and the Immortal and the Restless is a huge hint So when Michael watches it basically entirely about his life and says “I am so like this character” when he just side step the relevant part of him it kind of adds to the humor
i just wanna say that the use of YTTD music probably makes this my favorite theory channel ever, even if i have some disagreements with the theories from time to time. just hearing someone talk about lore over "not so, sou" immediately brings to mind the image of sou and sara arguing about the lore, and i find incredible amounts of joy in that.
All theories are valid and with a psycho like William it isn't impossible he loved them in a sick twisted way so willcare i don't think is what people are thinking, if he does it's in a bad way
10:38 while i see your point, the entire thing about TOYSNHK is that he's "always watching", the Golden Freddy kid backs out of the room and stops watching
Something in Immortal and the Restless I haven't seen was brought up by NotRealName NotAtAll in her Music Man video. How Vlad and Clara look like a cover for The Music Man.
my first thought for the intentional leaving out of the "they'll be mine forever, i just know it" line was that it was meant to symbolize the first souls, just in reverse. if toy chica is supposed to be a stand-in for afton, it would make sense that s/he wouldn't know that the first victims would stick around, much less that he would be vying for that fact. it does call into question the order, whether or not it really means anything, which is a whole other can of freddy worms
William most likely only cared abt his kids as extensions of himself and tools to prove he's better than Henry. I 100% think he only had kids to proce he's better than Henry I mean, Henry had 2 kids and William by chance has 3. He most definitely wanted to have a better public image than henry
So I disagree that the 5 interludes are about William not wanting Afton. Mainly because Mike is supposed to be Clara. And that’s not like a leap in logic or anything, that’s straight up what Mike says about himself. Looking at it through that lens, it seems more like it was about Michael and someone else, probably William, discussing Baby, the actual animatronic, and whether or not it was actually possessed. Which makes a lot of sense given that Baby is mostly her programming (based on how she talks about Elizabeth's death) until we remove the disk, which is when Elizabeth fully comes out (and later has to separate from Molten Freddy).
I have a kind of out pocket theory on the Immortal and the Restless, in that it is also telling us the early days of the Afton family. Basically I am thinking Michael was concieved out of wedlock, maybe that he was the result of a teen pregnancy. And William wanted to get out of responsibility by saying the kid isn't his. Since he's a lousy person he resents Michael for making him take responsibility for a kid he didn't plan on having
Something that bugs me a little - people talk about William loving or not loving his kids, but there's another option, which is that he treats them like possessions. He doesn't love them in the way that you should love your children, but that doesn't mean he can't be mad when one "breaks" or is taken away from him.
5:01 TSMT Heres how I see TIATR: Vlad = William Clara = Mrs. Afton The Baby = Michael William never wanted Michael nor did he ever love him, if Michael was born in 1970, then William would see Michael as the mistake that "ruined" Fall Fest 1970 Midnight Motorist: Player = William Couch person = Mrs. Afton Runaway = Michael Mound/Grave = David Later That Night, after David died, after William stuffed Davids corpse in Fredbear/Golden Freddy, after William got drunk, after William Killed Charlie.
Immortal and the Restless; going off of your interpretation this could communicate a few other details. William may have felt he was trapped into a marriage he did not want and wasn't prepared for; Clara is Vlad's mistress, not his wife. The show ends with the implication they will soon be wed. Everything Vlad says implies he's trying to alienate and push Clara away from him. Clara is not a saint (shown taking rash actions) but as Mike says in the logbook; she is the only one that seems to see how nutty all of this is. Mike relating to Clara could even be to say Mike related to his mother's perspective more. The final take away I get from it is that we're never suppose to believe the Aftons were a stable, happy family; it was a marriage built on problems and those problems persisted long passed Mrs. Afton disappearing from the picture. I still think the three items in the FNAF4 bedroom (during gameplay) are actually the story of why Dave is crying and why preteen Mike is such a bully; the flowers are for a sick/recovering mother, the pills are her medications, the IV bag was when it became terminal. I really think Dave in FNAF4 is always crying because his mother isn't there to comfort him; life is unpredictable, unsupervised and full of cold shoulders. Dave/Mike's mom should be there to comfort him, to comfort both children... But she's not there anymore. She's not there so Father can run an experiment. There is no second parent there to stop the fear experiments; the flowers, pills and IV bag are the memory of things associated with why mother isn't there anymore.
With the Immortal and Restless, there’s Mike’s quote about the show in the Logbook: “Clara from “The Immortal and the Restless” because everything about this place is crazy and no one seems to notice me.” If Clara is a stand-in for Mike when Vlad is a William Stand-in, I see this more as Clara is Mrs. Afton stand-in but Mike looks up to his mother more. And Clara is convincing Vlad that their son is his, symbolizing that Mrs. Afton accepted Michael while William didn’t- and now Mike develops this memory and led him to believe that Fazbear is denying Phone Guy’s disappearance and William’s involvement with the company. That’s how I’ll interpret it. And the Toy Chica interludes frustrates me at times. My idea was that this is Scrap Baby killing off multiple Freddy’s knockoffs to continue her father’s legacy, with each death getting brutal. And given how Toy Chica says “Tomorrow is another day” and Baby saying “I can put myself back together” which is similar to Mike saying he put Elizabeth back together and (possibly) William saying “I will put you back together”, I could see Scrap Baby mimicking her father’s acts when killing. And also, given how the “Bear of Vengeance” cutscenes seem to parallel both BV and Michael, so this could indicate that the UCN interludes focus on the Afton kids. But looking at your view of it, I really think it could work, so it is plausible. I might have it interpreted as BV1st (with the Foxy hook connecting to Mike), Charlie, Susie (fitting to be Wolf since it’s calling for the “dead dog” thing, indicating that Afton ran over the dog), Fritz, Gabriel, Jeremy, and then Cassidy (makes sense given how Springlocks are described to be painful, so I could see Cassidy having the worst death inside of Golden Freddy). I know some interludes are questionable, but I really love to see more interludes in the FNAF lore because they really make the story unsettling and mysterious when it comes to the lore. But this has been a great video 👍
Clara is actually Michael, and the show is about Mike noticing the things happening at Freddy's. Its not literally a baby, but are actions that obviously is from William's doing. In the Final Episode he even slips in the end.
12:43 ============================ Okay, so there are a couple of things here that i disagree with. My reason why is because all of Toy chicas victims are pretty directly connected to MCI and Charlotte, which we know were killed directly by Williams' hands but BV was not killed by William sure William could have made Fredbear and Springbonnie, but again, the MCI and Charlotte were directly killed by Afton's hands, making BV being the seventh victim very flawed. What makes the gravestone idea even more flawed is, as you said, there's only SIX gravestones. If this interpretation is true, why wouldn't BV have a gravestone too. ======final statement====== So i think BV being the seventh victim is pretty much impossible to be true, and i believe that there has to be a secret seventh victim.
Here's my theory for The Immortal (William) and the Restless (Mike) William (The Immortal) is Vladd Clara (The restless) is sorta Michael And the baby is all of Williams crimes. "Clara the baby isn't mine" = "Mike, I never killed those kids" or "Mike, I never 'killed' your sister" and so on. Then near the end Clara burns the house down just like Mike burned down Fazbear Frights. I think the show is trying to represent mikes & williams relationship between games up to Sister location. With the last episode being just what convinced mike to go to SL and "put her back together." Remember the line "Just like you told me to do" from mikes speech, Mike and William spoke before hand or at least communicated before SL and Mike losing contact afterwards leaving him to "Come find you."
For give NY paraphrasing in this comment as I was writing quotes from memory. So grain of salt for verbal accuracy, my theory stands. Tho some things I said would have to be corrected for any misremembered lines to make more coherent sense.
I was always confused by people genuinely believing Vlad since I thought it was so obvious he was lying. Guess people really are way too quick to take things at not even face value
wow I've been doing a lot of research on the toy chica cutscenes today and then you make a video on them! i noticed that in the final cutscene, you can actually see the gravestones from FFPS i have been thinking about Gibi's video talking about Cassidy possibly being killed in the DCI, and i have something interesting that could back it up, just as much as not be important at all. Toy chica mentions blaming Balloon Boy, but not even really having any motive to kill Pigpatch.Toy Chica herself is from 1987, which got me thinking if all these murders happened in 1987. Freddy, Wolf, Bonnie, Funtime Foxy, Puppet and Pigpatch. It fell apart tho when Wolf so easily is how William kills Susie. Heres what i found that has has my mind racing. I saw a post that the Midnight Motor in Five Laps at Freddy's has two die hanging. An 8 and a 7. So maybe Midnight motorist takes place in 1987, later the night of the DCI. i thought about it a while and if true, i still dont know what's the point if Michael is the runaway. one of the shadows or golden freddy could be outside his window but i don't know why he goes with them or where.
12:34 "We have a group of 6 to consider other than the MCI: The 6 gravestones in the forest with the big tree in FNAF 6" Ah yes, instead of the MCI+Charlie, this cutscene refers to the 6 graves stones meant to represent the MCI+Charlie. Makes perfect sense
I think its more likely that the Foxy victim would be Michael instead of Elizabeth or CC as Michaels Sister Location death could be viewed as William sending Michael to his death as much as William killing any other person compared to Elizabeth and CCs unintentional deaths? It also makes the choice of being represented by Foxy make more sense as well as his death being not presented like the others like how it was the only death intentionally caused by William that he didn't physically commit.
Yeah I think if we're going to include the hook in Toy chica's bag then we should also account for the 7th cutscene establishing "But tomorrow is another day. And I just know there's a guy out there, who's right for me. " that there is more. It's interesting that both these cutscenes and the Bear of Vengeance both clearly have chronology despite the looping elements and specifically the implication that there is at least one cutscene we don't see that takes place before the others in the loop. Considering the final cutscene is likely tied to UCN directly with Golden Freddy in the void, it is interesting that these all tie into UCN's looping elements.
With the "one of William's kids isn't his by birth" theory, I always interpreted the fact that the baby is Clearly his as a "I don't care that he's adopted He's Still Your Responsibility". But that's moreso an excuse than solution
RXQWFSC'S Mini game in Fnaf 3. The shadow Bonnie mini game. Weird to play through as it requires the completion of the 4 other mini games(can only be accessed on night 5) and has a ghost of a Different colour to all the spirits that are to be set free in the happiest day mini game. It can't be Puppet or Golden Freddy as if you enter Happiest day on night 1, they are already present(Golden Freddy doesn't have their mask yet). And chronologically through the mini games, the other 4 turn up due to the events of the first four mini games. So who is the dark spirit given cake by RXQWFSC? They don't seem to appear outside of this mini game. It's an oddity to be sure.
what if the movies are canon to the game timeline. however the movies (pizzerias) are the real versions that the indie dev warped changed/altered (which is why the pizzeria in the game is different) for his fictional games that are stated in help wanted 1 and in the books. which will probably explain why vanessa was in the fnaf 1 movie and if the same charater > hw > sb idk just a small stupid theory I had
For the Imortal and the Resteless. I think Vlad is William but Clara is Mike. The baby would be Dave. Because dispite being his son. (Dont matter if he was kidnaped or not) William is a absent father. And make Mike, the older (but not for much) brother, the one to take reslonsabilities. Something a kid should not have to take this earlier. To take care of a realy young sibling with a absent father. This even help expalin the sheer rage/ressentment Mike shows to Dave. Just bulluying him over and over. Mike wants William to take the reslonsabilitie but he refuses. And Clara wants Vlad but he refuses
Yet another great video :) The one thing I dont like about it is your pixel art avatar being kinda blurry in some scenes. Im just a pixel art enjoyer and it makes me a little angry lol, you can easily fix it by just exporting the files larger. Then again idk what you use to make them so im not sure how i can really help idk ah. Idk what im even saying at this point
8:53 Oh yeah, why would VS speak only throught mediocre melodies instead of his vessel? And why is He also a enemy as if he's another puppet? this cutscene is most likely a reference to every custom night which includes gf as the final enemy, and the fnaf 1 1987 code The death coin could be a creative way of showing fredbear model, hell, fredbear doesn't have any special lines on ucn, another mindless puppet
1A: Golden Freddy is a slumped over suit. It does not have a voice box. 1B: Golden Freddy could never have a scary enough voice. 1C: Scott wanted to make the mediocre melodies less goofy 2: Because it tortures William 3: Why would Scott have a Fredbear model without planning how to show it off beforehand? Because it's fun? Why would he work on that when he had 50 other characters to figure out for this game?
@@zomzomino its a ghost, it can talk We already have fredbear lines with creepy voice And? Still doesn't make sense to the spirit not talk throught his vessel He could, if "gf is the main foccus" Hell, ucn spirit photo is from a boy Fredbear death coin is just to present the model, and the 49/50 is a meta ending for the old narrative GoldenTOYSNHK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE Andrew is a character which doesn't posses any animatronic, doesn't it make more sense to him choose random animatronics instead of cassidy which already has a vessel?
@@Wizardjones69 in this game all of the characters are the vengeful spirit vessel. And the death token being there to show the model off doesn't make sense because Scott wouldnt have a reason to make the model. UCN is a big game, he couldn't just make a model on a whim with no plans
@@zomzomino the reason to him make the model is because everybody was bothering him to make it So why not show the model on a cooler mean spirited way? Also, gf only involviment on the game is on the 49/50 cutscene and this death coin Everthing else points to the spirit possesing nothing Also, how can gf attach himself into afton after molten freddy was fully burned?
Afton not giving a hoot about lore or timeline? I mean Scott? I mean Purple Guy? I mean... Phone guy? Who dare you! Ruined my day; I say! It is not the same one that let SB happen. That was... Foxy's fault? Yea. We got with that. Seriously tough. I think we have a confirmed The Game Theory. When even Matt is throwing in the towel and retiring? Like seriously... Fuhnaff seems like someone that managed to cut trough SB and the later games. Yet honestly? The only missing child victims/lost and restless left in this franchise? Is the ones trying to make the lore make sense. Everything that made the games what they are? Gone. Try and go back and find the quotes how far Fnaf have jumped the shark. The story makes no bloody sense. And now AI/Mimic? Ever since Fnaf 4 or maybe 5? The idea of this all not being unrelated games/movies/books... Like each thing has to be looked at as a stand alone thing. Since trying to mash things into a timeline only ruins what little there is to be enjoyed. Stitch Ray. Giant alien attacks. Mimic set in the 70s. You know what? The Fnaf 1-3 where things where actually scary and interesting? Where the horror was about CHILD murders and killers? Today it would be a grate service to everyone, to have any mention of kids being ever involved with this franchise removed. Based simply on the fact that the handling of murder victims are so pooooorly done. Afton stuck into electronics and transferred into games... Re-animated for SB. Even attempting to take this seriously anymore is the victims here. And they are real people in the real world. That is not how this was supposed to go down!
Not trying to put you down, but if I wanted to put on subtitles, I'd push the subtitle button. Its not that big of a deal but its very distracting for me personally for a youtube video
Video Idea: Spend way too much time trying to use the art assets of Fury's Rage to then guess what Scott's narrative intent for Security Breath was. Based on his last interview, it seems like Scott had a specific story for Security Breach but failed to communicate it to the team properly... BUT... He MADE Fury's Rage. So it's lore-hints may represent Scott's intentions.
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That's a great idea! I bet that Scott had a good story planned for Security breath.
I want to bring up another, equally valid interpretation of The Immortal and the Restless that was actually given to us by michael in the logbook.
Which is that the show represents Fazbear's ineptitude and willingness to be ignorant to the obvious even if it's staring them in the face.
its an official take on the show that i never see anyone really mention that i find very unique and interesting considering how prevalent yet understated FE are in the series even now. and how even around sl (or more likely 6 considering its source's release) FE's shadiness was still a prevalent plot point scott likely wanted to tackle in more depth.
maybe it's both
3:13 Logbook says Mike relates most to Clara, if that changes anything. (I agree with the rest)
6:35 i see it more as...
Afton does to Fritz (4th MCI kid) what Pitt-trap does to Oswald.
Coax him over to the safe room. And that's enough, as the kid follows.
Fritz is then killed, no contingency required. (The contingency being he replicates what happened at his house during MM) While Oswald ESCAPES.
And what happens...Pit-trap follows him, and goes to his house, through the front door.
As for "Fritz=4th"... (the main points, as there ARE more)
1. Fnaf 3's arcade minigame buttons map onto GGGL.
2. ITP have you face off against Chica, Bonnie, then Freddy, and Oswald is implied to become Foxy...Giving you the same order.
Finally, Susie fits the 2nd story.
Jeremy is abandoned by his parents l, based on SB's comedy bot (no evidence for how THAT maps onto the 3rd story).
Gabriel fits the 4th story, if you see it as "let's go to your secret party (remember HW's Pizza Party where you become Freddy). All your (live hostages) friends will be there."
And Fritz is coaxed to the back room, simple as that. The 5th story.
8:20 Cassidy (Possibly Cassidy Andrews, being related to TWB's Mrs Andrews) is still an unknown, but is DEFINITELY the 6th story (possibly Springlocked, and definitely the MOST violent).
Then we have Charlie as Story 1. Charlie is lured away from the door with a "come and help me with work", from Afton. (Security Puppet shows Charlie dies PRETTY FAR away from the window, so she must've been lured away to Afton's car, before being killed)
7:55 + 12:20-13:42 And then we have ONE character who dies before even Charlie. Someone we don't see in the cutscenes.
If Charlie dies in late 1983 (books have her die on Halloween, while it's implied she dies in 1983) and Elizabeth dies in 1985 (based on 1578 being Jan 7th 1985), then the ONLY murder we know that happens before then is CC/BV/Dave.
The kid killed by Foxy Bro, hence the hook. (Although TC implies it was a murder though)
10:00 just wanna add something to make his point stronger
Matthew Lillard literally said in an interview that their job in that movie was to deliver lore.
So knowing that the movie is meant to solve lore and that the movie portrays Golden Freddy as the vengeful spirit and well it paints a pretty clear picture.
Nice video as always
Tho I will say something I'm surprised you didn't brought up regarding the immortal and the restless
Was the fact that in the survival log book Mike says that of all the characters from the show he relates to, he relates to Clara the most
Which draws in a connection between Mike and Clara
Which is the only officially presented connection that show has with any other character
Making it much stronger than Clara being connected to Miss-nonexistent-Afton
Who's only connection is that they exist and are both womans and are married to a guy
Also, I forgot to mention that Henry most likely built Fredbear and Springbonnie.
But Mike in the logbook said that he related to Clara soo- whats that mean?
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@@wsgimfloof i hate typing on my phone, let me edit
Mike relates to Clara because there has always been a bunch of crazy things happening in his life and William always says he’s not involved, but he obviously is. I think Cryonide’s thoughts can be simultaneously true.
Personally I think Clara could be a stand in for Vanessa and then Vlad would be Mike.
I found that more of a joke
See their is a huge misconception in the Fnaf community related to Michael and the Immortal and the Restless is a huge hint
So when Michael watches it basically entirely about his life and says “I am so like this character” when he just side step the relevant part of him it kind of adds to the humor
i just wanna say that the use of YTTD music probably makes this my favorite theory channel ever, even if i have some disagreements with the theories from time to time. just hearing someone talk about lore over "not so, sou" immediately brings to mind the image of sou and sara arguing about the lore, and i find incredible amounts of joy in that.
i knew the music was familiar
All theories are valid and with a psycho like William it isn't impossible he loved them in a sick twisted way so willcare i don't think is what people are thinking, if he does it's in a bad way
10:38 while i see your point, the entire thing about TOYSNHK is that he's "always watching", the Golden Freddy kid backs out of the room and stops watching
Something in Immortal and the Restless I haven't seen was brought up by NotRealName NotAtAll in her Music Man video. How Vlad and Clara look like a cover for The Music Man.
The boy is Mike! All bullies have a bully, that’s why they bully. William bullied Mike, Mike bullied Dave, Dave gets bit.
my first thought for the intentional leaving out of the "they'll be mine forever, i just know it" line was that it was meant to symbolize the first souls, just in reverse. if toy chica is supposed to be a stand-in for afton, it would make sense that s/he wouldn't know that the first victims would stick around, much less that he would be vying for that fact. it does call into question the order, whether or not it really means anything, which is a whole other can of freddy worms
the interludes were the best part
William most likely only cared abt his kids as extensions of himself and tools to prove he's better than Henry. I 100% think he only had kids to proce he's better than Henry I mean, Henry had 2 kids and William by chance has 3. He most definitely wanted to have a better public image than henry
>Henry had 2 kids
That is if Sammy is game-canon
@@burner555 I don't see a reason why he wouldn't
So I disagree that the 5 interludes are about William not wanting Afton. Mainly because Mike is supposed to be Clara. And that’s not like a leap in logic or anything, that’s straight up what Mike says about himself.
Looking at it through that lens, it seems more like it was about Michael and someone else, probably William, discussing Baby, the actual animatronic, and whether or not it was actually possessed. Which makes a lot of sense given that Baby is mostly her programming (based on how she talks about Elizabeth's death) until we remove the disk, which is when Elizabeth fully comes out (and later has to separate from Molten Freddy).
As a note: The Week Before heavily implies the Cassidy's full name is Cassidy Andrews.
I have a kind of out pocket theory on the Immortal and the Restless, in that it is also telling us the early days of the Afton family. Basically I am thinking Michael was concieved out of wedlock, maybe that he was the result of a teen pregnancy. And William wanted to get out of responsibility by saying the kid isn't his. Since he's a lousy person he resents Michael for making him take responsibility for a kid he didn't plan on having
Something that bugs me a little - people talk about William loving or not loving his kids, but there's another option, which is that he treats them like possessions. He doesn't love them in the way that you should love your children, but that doesn't mean he can't be mad when one "breaks" or is taken away from him.
5:01 TSMT
Heres how I see TIATR:
Vlad = William
Clara = Mrs. Afton
The Baby = Michael
William never wanted Michael nor did he ever love him, if Michael was born in 1970, then William would see Michael as the mistake that "ruined" Fall Fest 1970
Midnight Motorist:
Player = William
Couch person = Mrs. Afton
Runaway = Michael
Mound/Grave = David
Later That Night, after David died, after William stuffed Davids corpse in Fredbear/Golden Freddy, after William got drunk, after William Killed Charlie.
Immortal and the Restless; going off of your interpretation this could communicate a few other details. William may have felt he was trapped into a marriage he did not want and wasn't prepared for; Clara is Vlad's mistress, not his wife. The show ends with the implication they will soon be wed. Everything Vlad says implies he's trying to alienate and push Clara away from him. Clara is not a saint (shown taking rash actions) but as Mike says in the logbook; she is the only one that seems to see how nutty all of this is. Mike relating to Clara could even be to say Mike related to his mother's perspective more. The final take away I get from it is that we're never suppose to believe the Aftons were a stable, happy family; it was a marriage built on problems and those problems persisted long passed Mrs. Afton disappearing from the picture.
I still think the three items in the FNAF4 bedroom (during gameplay) are actually the story of why Dave is crying and why preteen Mike is such a bully; the flowers are for a sick/recovering mother, the pills are her medications, the IV bag was when it became terminal. I really think Dave in FNAF4 is always crying because his mother isn't there to comfort him; life is unpredictable, unsupervised and full of cold shoulders. Dave/Mike's mom should be there to comfort him, to comfort both children... But she's not there anymore. She's not there so Father can run an experiment. There is no second parent there to stop the fear experiments; the flowers, pills and IV bag are the memory of things associated with why mother isn't there anymore.
With the Immortal and Restless, there’s Mike’s quote about the show in the Logbook:
“Clara from “The Immortal and the Restless” because everything about this place is crazy and no one seems to notice me.”
If Clara is a stand-in for Mike when Vlad is a William Stand-in, I see this more as Clara is Mrs. Afton stand-in but Mike looks up to his mother more. And Clara is convincing Vlad that their son is his, symbolizing that Mrs. Afton accepted Michael while William didn’t- and now Mike develops this memory and led him to believe that Fazbear is denying Phone Guy’s disappearance and William’s involvement with the company. That’s how I’ll interpret it.
And the Toy Chica interludes frustrates me at times.
My idea was that this is Scrap Baby killing off multiple Freddy’s knockoffs to continue her father’s legacy, with each death getting brutal. And given how Toy Chica says “Tomorrow is another day” and Baby saying “I can put myself back together” which is similar to Mike saying he put Elizabeth back together and (possibly) William saying “I will put you back together”, I could see Scrap Baby mimicking her father’s acts when killing. And also, given how the “Bear of Vengeance” cutscenes seem to parallel both BV and Michael, so this could indicate that the UCN interludes focus on the Afton kids.
But looking at your view of it, I really think it could work, so it is plausible. I might have it interpreted as BV1st (with the Foxy hook connecting to Mike), Charlie, Susie (fitting to be Wolf since it’s calling for the “dead dog” thing, indicating that Afton ran over the dog), Fritz, Gabriel, Jeremy, and then Cassidy (makes sense given how Springlocks are described to be painful, so I could see Cassidy having the worst death inside of Golden Freddy).
I know some interludes are questionable, but I really love to see more interludes in the FNAF lore because they really make the story unsettling and mysterious when it comes to the lore.
But this has been a great video 👍
Clara is actually Michael, and the show is about Mike noticing the things happening at Freddy's.
Its not literally a baby, but are actions that obviously is from William's doing. In the Final Episode he even slips in the end.
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Okay, so there are a couple of things here that i disagree with.
My reason why is because all of Toy chicas victims are pretty directly connected to MCI and Charlotte, which we know were killed directly by Williams' hands
but BV was not killed by William sure William could have made Fredbear and Springbonnie, but again, the MCI and Charlotte were directly killed by Afton's hands, making BV being the seventh victim very flawed.
What makes the gravestone idea even more flawed is, as you said, there's only SIX gravestones. If this interpretation is true, why wouldn't BV have a gravestone
too.
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So i think BV being the seventh victim is pretty much impossible to be true, and i believe that there has to be a secret seventh victim.
Also, I may have forgotten to add that Henry most likely built Fredbear and Springbonnie
Here's my theory for The Immortal (William) and the Restless (Mike)
William (The Immortal) is Vladd
Clara (The restless) is sorta Michael
And the baby is all of Williams crimes.
"Clara the baby isn't mine" = "Mike, I never killed those kids" or "Mike, I never 'killed' your sister" and so on. Then near the end Clara burns the house down just like Mike burned down Fazbear Frights.
I think the show is trying to represent mikes & williams relationship between games up to Sister location. With the last episode being just what convinced mike to go to SL and "put her back together." Remember the line "Just like you told me to do" from mikes speech, Mike and William spoke before hand or at least communicated before SL and Mike losing contact afterwards leaving him to "Come find you."
For give NY paraphrasing in this comment as I was writing quotes from memory. So grain of salt for verbal accuracy, my theory stands. Tho some things I said would have to be corrected for any misremembered lines to make more coherent sense.
FNAF's Discarded Storytelling Method
I was always confused by people genuinely believing Vlad since I thought it was so obvious he was lying. Guess people really are way too quick to take things at not even face value
wow I've been doing a lot of research on the toy chica cutscenes today and then you make a video on them!
i noticed that in the final cutscene, you can actually see the gravestones from FFPS
i have been thinking about Gibi's video talking about Cassidy possibly being killed in the DCI, and i have something interesting that could back it up, just as much as not be important at all.
Toy chica mentions blaming Balloon Boy, but not even really having any motive to kill Pigpatch.Toy Chica herself is from 1987, which got me thinking if all these murders happened in 1987. Freddy, Wolf, Bonnie, Funtime Foxy, Puppet and Pigpatch. It fell apart tho when Wolf so easily is how William kills Susie.
Heres what i found that has has my mind racing.
I saw a post that the Midnight Motor in Five Laps at Freddy's has two die hanging. An 8 and a 7.
So maybe Midnight motorist takes place in 1987, later the night of the DCI.
i thought about it a while and if true, i still dont know what's the point if Michael is the runaway. one of the shadows or golden freddy could be outside his window but i don't know why he goes with them or where.
yo man honestly your videos are that of someone with many more subscribers lol
wishing you the best you deserve it
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12:34 "We have a group of 6 to consider other than the MCI: The 6 gravestones in the forest with the big tree in FNAF 6"
Ah yes, instead of the MCI+Charlie, this cutscene refers to the 6 graves stones meant to represent the MCI+Charlie. Makes perfect sense
I think it makes a lot more sense if you don’t phrase it in the worst way possible lol.
0:45 BRO PUT YOUR PIGGIES AWAY
5:29 DON"T LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT
I think its more likely that the Foxy victim would be Michael instead of Elizabeth or CC as Michaels Sister Location death could be viewed as William sending Michael to his death as much as William killing any other person compared to Elizabeth and CCs unintentional deaths? It also makes the choice of being represented by Foxy make more sense as well as his death being not presented like the others like how it was the only death intentionally caused by William that he didn't physically commit.
Yeah I think if we're going to include the hook in Toy chica's bag then we should also account for the 7th cutscene establishing "But tomorrow is another day. And I just know there's a guy out there, who's right for me. " that there is more. It's interesting that both these cutscenes and the Bear of Vengeance both clearly have chronology despite the looping elements and specifically the implication that there is at least one cutscene we don't see that takes place before the others in the loop. Considering the final cutscene is likely tied to UCN directly with Golden Freddy in the void, it is interesting that these all tie into UCN's looping elements.
With the "one of William's kids isn't his by birth" theory, I always interpreted the fact that the baby is Clearly his as a "I don't care that he's adopted He's Still Your Responsibility". But that's moreso an excuse than solution
A hook in chica's bag? A hook like Funtime foxy from fnaf world, who is fixed mangle whom is also theorized to be haunted by Susie's dog?
RXQWFSC'S Mini game in Fnaf 3. The shadow Bonnie mini game. Weird to play through as it requires the completion of the 4 other mini games(can only be accessed on night 5) and has a ghost of a Different colour to all the spirits that are to be set free in the happiest day mini game. It can't be Puppet or Golden Freddy as if you enter Happiest day on night 1, they are already present(Golden Freddy doesn't have their mask yet). And chronologically through the mini games, the other 4 turn up due to the events of the first four mini games. So who is the dark spirit given cake by RXQWFSC? They don't seem to appear outside of this mini game. It's an oddity to be sure.
ye now we are waiting another video for the anime thing
7:10 ainodarifaididnt bring it up here
leave me ALONE 😭😭😭
what if the movies are canon to the game timeline. however the movies (pizzerias) are the real versions that the indie dev warped changed/altered (which is why the pizzeria in the game is different) for his fictional games that are stated in help wanted 1 and in the books. which will probably explain why vanessa was in the fnaf 1 movie and if the same charater > hw > sb idk just a small stupid theory I had
For the Imortal and the Resteless.
I think Vlad is William but Clara is Mike. The baby would be Dave.
Because dispite being his son. (Dont matter if he was kidnaped or not) William is a absent father. And make Mike, the older (but not for much) brother, the one to take reslonsabilities.
Something a kid should not have to take this earlier. To take care of a realy young sibling with a absent father.
This even help expalin the sheer rage/ressentment Mike shows to Dave. Just bulluying him over and over.
Mike wants William to take the reslonsabilitie but he refuses. And Clara wants Vlad but he refuses
OH MY GOD YOUR TURN TO DIE REFERENCE
I've always viewed that as being about Michael and William, I've never heard anybody say that it was about William kidnapping children what???
Yet another great video :)
The one thing I dont like about it is your pixel art avatar being kinda blurry in some scenes. Im just a pixel art enjoyer and it makes me a little angry lol, you can easily fix it by just exporting the files larger. Then again idk what you use to make them so im not sure how i can really help idk ah. Idk what im even saying at this point
Imagine if the game after secret of the mimic is
Five Nights at Freddy's
The immortal and the restless
Now I want a game that has this name goddamit
What doloes MCI mean?
Missing children incident
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Oh yeah, why would VS speak only throught mediocre melodies instead of his vessel? And why is He also a enemy as if he's another puppet? this cutscene is most likely a reference to every custom night which includes gf as the final enemy, and the fnaf 1 1987 code
The death coin could be a creative way of showing fredbear model, hell, fredbear doesn't have any special lines on ucn, another mindless puppet
1A: Golden Freddy is a slumped over suit. It does not have a voice box.
1B: Golden Freddy could never have a scary enough voice.
1C: Scott wanted to make the mediocre melodies less goofy
2: Because it tortures William
3: Why would Scott have a Fredbear model without planning how to show it off beforehand? Because it's fun? Why would he work on that when he had 50 other characters to figure out for this game?
@@zomzomino its a ghost, it can talk
We already have fredbear lines with creepy voice
And? Still doesn't make sense to the spirit not talk throught his vessel
He could, if "gf is the main foccus"
Hell, ucn spirit photo is from a boy
Fredbear death coin is just to present the model, and the 49/50 is a meta ending for the old narrative
GoldenTOYSNHK DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
Andrew is a character which doesn't posses any animatronic, doesn't it make more sense to him choose random animatronics instead of cassidy which already has a vessel?
@@Wizardjones69 in this game all of the characters are the vengeful spirit vessel. And the death token being there to show the model off doesn't make sense because Scott wouldnt have a reason to make the model. UCN is a big game, he couldn't just make a model on a whim with no plans
@@zomzomino the reason to him make the model is because everybody was bothering him to make it
So why not show the model on a cooler mean spirited way?
Also, gf only involviment on the game is on the 49/50 cutscene and this death coin
Everthing else points to the spirit possesing nothing
Also, how can gf attach himself into afton after molten freddy was fully burned?
@@Wizardjones69 how can Andrew attach himself to an afton after dying years earlier and probably having passed on
Afton not giving a hoot about lore or timeline? I mean Scott? I mean Purple Guy? I mean... Phone guy?
Who dare you! Ruined my day; I say!
It is not the same one that let SB happen. That was... Foxy's fault? Yea. We got with that.
Seriously tough. I think we have a confirmed The Game Theory. When even Matt is throwing in the towel and retiring? Like seriously...
Fuhnaff seems like someone that managed to cut trough SB and the later games. Yet honestly? The only missing child victims/lost and restless left in this franchise? Is the ones trying to make the lore make sense. Everything that made the games what they are? Gone.
Try and go back and find the quotes how far Fnaf have jumped the shark. The story makes no bloody sense. And now AI/Mimic? Ever since Fnaf 4 or maybe 5? The idea of this all not being unrelated games/movies/books... Like each thing has to be looked at as a stand alone thing. Since trying to mash things into a timeline only ruins what little there is to be enjoyed. Stitch Ray. Giant alien attacks. Mimic set in the 70s. You know what? The Fnaf 1-3 where things where actually scary and interesting? Where the horror was about CHILD murders and killers? Today it would be a grate service to everyone, to have any mention of kids being ever involved with this franchise removed. Based simply on the fact that the handling of murder victims are so pooooorly done. Afton stuck into electronics and transferred into games... Re-animated for SB. Even attempting to take this seriously anymore is the victims here. And they are real people in the real world. That is not how this was supposed to go down!
loved this :)
With how insistent you and TDReads are on your "WillCare is bullshit" propaganda, it almost makes me want to believe WillCare IS true
@@lilypord6618 I can’t even complain, this is exactly how I feel about the people who swear by TalesGames.
Toy Chica is william afton is true 6:01
good video plz make the subtitles smaller
They're going away entirely, does that count?
@@Cryonideyer 💚
Not trying to put you down, but if I wanted to put on subtitles, I'd push the subtitle button.
Its not that big of a deal but its very distracting for me personally for a youtube video
This will be the last video with subtitles anyway so you’re fine lol