22LR Lot Testing (Ruger Precision Rimfire Rifle NRL22 Base Class Build Part 7)

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  • @maryanngrove6403
    @maryanngrove6403 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have just gotten a Feddersen 18" bull barrel with a Bentz chamber. I went with a Bentz chamber rather than a full match chamber to allow wider ammo selection and not be restricted to match (read expensive) ammo. Keep up the good work. Much appreciated.

  • @jonathonschram3429
    @jonathonschram3429 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I shot a RPR for NRL22 for 2 seasons. We have 2...1 I left pretty stock (Timney trigger, arca rail, vortex diamondback tactical 6-24, aluminum tape bedding) for base class, and the other I sunk a bunch of money into (Lija barrel, trigger, different rail with arca cut, pst gen ii 5-25)...shot roughly the same score either way.
    'Upgraded' to a Vudoo...and my scores were actually worse the first year because of constant mag issues. Finally got that all sorted out...and I'm still shooting about the same scores I was 4-5 years ago when I was running the RPR lol!
    Honestly, for as flimsy as the Ruger feels, they shoot well enough for everything we do in NRL22. I still have a BUNCH of discontinued fed gmm .22, and it shoots well enough in the less-modified RPR that the only thing holding me back each week is still ME. But the vudoo gets you more style points.
    My wife had the Tika T1x (?...the chassis model). She shoots it a heck of alot better than the ruger, vudoo, or CZ.
    My son loves the ruger. At our club we usually have 1 squad of shooters under 12 with a modified COF. Rifle stays setup with no/minimal movement or positional changes. My boy takes 90% of his shots either prone or off a tripod, even if there is an obsticle in the stage. He has a blast, and he's getting alot better everytime we go out.

  • @knightdominion
    @knightdominion ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope you haven't given up on this build. I havent seen a video on it in quite a while and I love the information you provide in them. Heading down pretty much the same path with a RPRR as a trainer for a 6.5 CM RPR that i have yet to acquire.

  • @jerrycandelaria8845
    @jerrycandelaria8845 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had some pretty good luck with my Ruger precision rimfire with normatec 22 and eleytenx

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the tips. I plan on doing some more testing soon so I'll check out those options.

  • @ADKwarriors
    @ADKwarriors ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very much looking forward to the continuation of this series. I really hope you continue it!

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's the plan!

    • @ADKwarriors
      @ADKwarriors ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CopperStarPrecision Awesome! I have been building the same setup along with you for the most part as I went with a Arken SH4 G2 (kinda regret it also...) and a Tandemkross pro comp. My rifle really shoots Eley and CCI Greentag amazingly well and i'm looking forward to my first event this month! Thank you for your hard work and excellent content!

  • @PVW1960
    @PVW1960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sticking with this! Definitely a. Contender !

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, pretty happy with the results at the October match. I've got lots of modifications coming to my CZ for open class, but I'm glad I have the base class rifle set up as a backup.

  • @1murder99
    @1murder99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an RPRR that shoots Wolf Match Target into 0.48 inch at 50 yards.

  • @Dayattherange
    @Dayattherange ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to see you join the 2023 Dayattherange Challenge with the RPR.

  • @MichaelLeopold1
    @MichaelLeopold1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, a trip to Lapua would be interesting to watch

  • @texasraider1137
    @texasraider1137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New subscriber to your channel and now that the Chief's beat the Eagles in tonight's Superbowl, I'm going to watch several more of your .22 series videos. Really good content and well put together.

  • @403lacey
    @403lacey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you're doing this series, I'm interested in the lapua testing as well as the tuner. Can't wait to see how it turns out

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for stopping by. Tuner video should be out in the next week or so.

    • @Quality_Guru
      @Quality_Guru 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likewise looking forward to it

  • @TheWarriorWorkshop
    @TheWarriorWorkshop 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    awesome channel. I stumbled on here when i was looking at the RPR. I assume your done with the series though. Looked awesome and i would have loved to see it to the end with you

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a few videos of running base class with the Ruger at matches. I am transitioning this year to a new rifle, but the Ruger is still in the stable and I have some ideas for future projects with it. I'll be competing in nationals this year in Open class so that's where my attention is currently.

  • @nrf2009
    @nrf2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've go a nearly identical setup - RPRR with a match-pro scope. It absolutely loves the Center X (.5-.6 MOA groups at 50), but it also shoots the CCI standard very well (.6-.8 MOA groups at 50). The centerX holds much better groups out at 100yards+ but at 50 yards or less the CCI standard has never been the reason I didn't hit a target.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My lot of CCI SV didn't really give me any confidence, but that Center X seems to run well in a lot of rifles. I think a trip to Lapua is in order!

  • @wisco_guy
    @wisco_guy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m really surprised by your results. With mine, I achieved great accuracy with the same ammo you tried, with Center-X and SK Plus(yellow box) shooting the best groups. I did follow a break-in process(from Krieger Barrels) like I do with all my rifles. I’m still tinkering with my Ruger RPR at the moment.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's the beauty of the barrel lottery. Mine seems to be pickier and definitely likes to be cleaned frequently.

    • @wisco_guy
      @wisco_guy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CopperStarPrecision Yep! I clean mine after every range session. Sometimes just a dry cloth down the bore or complete cleaning depending on how many rounds.

  • @gamergeek8933
    @gamergeek8933 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to see an update on how it/you did

  • @MrConcord75
    @MrConcord75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s a contender. Remember it’s not just the tool but also the craftsman. Good luck at the tournament.

  • @EagleEyeShooting
    @EagleEyeShooting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haha awesome video and really digging the triggercam footage

  • @FishOn1
    @FishOn1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look forward to the tuning video. Thinking about one for me B14R.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Should be out in the next week or so. I have had good luck with them before, but there are only a few right ways to use a tuner and a lot of bad info out there.

  • @IamONaLIST
    @IamONaLIST 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving the series. I don't know if I would ever compete but the information has been great as I have been wanting to setup a 22lr precision gun. I had been wanting a Ruger for several years and going back and forth on caliber. More recently I see all the videos of the CZ, Bergara, Vudu setups but I love having a chassis and after watching your cost comparison and learning about Base entry level, I love the idea of the Ruger even if I am just plinking at my 100yd range.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All good choices, but I think for the value the Ruger wins out. Going for extreme accuracy will require finding that perfect ammo. I will say with the other rifles you will get a smoother action and better trigger, but mine on the Ruger has broken in well after 1000 rounds and triggers can always be replaced down the line (even as simple as a spring change gets you most of the way there). I plan on polishing my action up as well (will show in a future video). CZ offers some of their higher end models in a chassis, but you're talking near double the price of the Ruger which you could put towards ammo/accessories.
      It comes down to this: do you want to save money and have to do some work to the rifle to get it at its best and buy upgrades over time, or do you want something more expensive that is pretty well fitted out of the box?
      Thanks for sharing and best of luck.

  • @michaelblackwell3789
    @michaelblackwell3789 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am new to the 22 precision rifle game. I just acquired a Ruger RPR a week ago and am looking forward to taking it to the range. If it shoots as good as my Ruger 10/22 Target Lite, I will be very pleased. Enjoyed your videos on the build on your rifle.Keep it up!

  • @shaynehorton132
    @shaynehorton132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tried numerous lots, eley club,sport and action , sk rifle match but settled on cci standard, accurate out to 100m also eley action works well for a 40grn round. will see what happens when the arca rail and mdt weights(x4) go on.

  • @billfeigal7283
    @billfeigal7283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you share a bit of info about the barrel tuning process you went through and its effect on the group sizes? Also which tuner did you end up using, and was there a selection process for that item? I really enjoy this series, thank you for putting this together.

  • @stanfrinak5616
    @stanfrinak5616 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my RPR Lapua Midas Plus was better than Center X. The groups were about 0.30 at an indoor range.

  • @davidnelson9568
    @davidnelson9568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have owned my RPR since 2018 and have tested it all.... I'm currently shooting ARA with mine with good results.
    Try Some SK Semi-Auto.... I found it to work for me..... I also recomend keep the barrel clean.....

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the tip. I'm working on sourcing more lots/brands of ammo for future videos.

  • @richardoverton57
    @richardoverton57 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi From Oz! Enjoying All your content here! All very useful to me! Luv it! Im subscribe To All your useful content on Ruger Precision 22 . Thanks!

  • @Mike-u7k1q
    @Mike-u7k1q 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great series for this rifle. I have one and plan for bench rest type shooting. Little too old for NRL shooting. Have you upgraded the barrel or do you plan on doing that?

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a very special barrel being made right now, but lead times are atrocious. Still a ways out, but there will be more Ruger content coming soon.

  • @joed3264
    @joed3264 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Took my new RPR to the range today. It did not care for any of my subsonic ammo. Best 5 shot group at 100 yds was 1 1/2". I just happened to have a box of Eley Force with me. 42 gr HV ammo. It really liked it. Worst group was 3/4". Best was 5/8". I have several Lots of Force as my 10/22, with Feddersen barrel, likes it also. All I have done to the rifle is check the action screws torque and remove one spring from the trigger. More Lot testing soon if the wind behaves.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was definitely a sort of break in period with mine. I ran 400 rounds of CCI SV through the barrel and then cleaned it before doing any serious lot testing. The first groups with that CCI SV were pretty bad, but it tightened up over time.

    • @joed3264
      @joed3264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CopperStarPrecision I forgot to mention that I scrubbed the bore with J-B Bore Bright before I shot it. It does away with any break in period.

  • @cameronlange3448
    @cameronlange3448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you ever put out the tuner video? Just getting my Ruger together and finding your buold videos to be very helpful, thank you!

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not yet. There has been a lot of contention with tuners in the shooting sports world lately and I don't want to put out any misinformation. I still plan on making a tuning video, but it is a very in-depth topic that is taking a long time to research and get footage for. My thoughts are that a tuner can help in certain situations, but that money might be better spent on lot testing ammo for most people.
      My new Open class rifle does not have a tuner (due largely in part to its much thicker and stiffer barrel). The Ruger, with its thinner barrel can see some benefits from a tuner, but repeatability can be a challenge.
      Tuning videos will come, but I want to get all of my facts straight and do proper testing to give viewers a realistic expectation of what to expect.

    • @cameronlange3448
      @cameronlange3448 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Copper Star Precision good to know as I am deciding to purchase one. I appreciate you being thorough in you testing!

  • @allenbmooresharinginformation
    @allenbmooresharinginformation ปีที่แล้ว

    You may wish to revisit CCI now that you have gotten that barrel broken in. Only a 16th to an 8th inch better at 50 yards with the higher dollar which I'm reluctant to spend twice as much for unless I am going to stretch things out to 100 or more.

  • @jasonfisher4134
    @jasonfisher4134 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve subscribed and starting watching your channel because of this build exactly and I am trying to build mine as closely as possible. Can you tell me exactly what bipod you’re using for it. Thanks in advance. Would love to see more videos and follow review after months of shooting it.

  • @jefflayton5889
    @jefflayton5889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It should shoot great for the match i use cci in mine for nrl 22.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so too. The CCI in mine did not work well at all, but it's all about finding the right lot.

  • @gebogen4409
    @gebogen4409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you tried measuring rim thickness as part of your ammo work up? Takes a little time but it may help with the vertical spread in the SK red box ammo. I WOULD like to see you do a trip to Lapua. I hope you got that credit card ready to go.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have heard of some success with thickness measuring/weighing rounds, but time is money so I think the better way to go is to try to find a more consistent lot. Most benchrest shooters do not sort, but the ammo they use (Eley Tenex/Laupa X-Act) is already very consistent, hence the high price. I think a trip to the testing center is in order when I run low on ammo. I'm going to try to tune out some of the variance in a future video so stay tuned!

  • @edwardlyden7902
    @edwardlyden7902 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much did it cost for all the add ons

  • @berryg.6125
    @berryg.6125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am interested in this scope. Does the clarity of the scope look better to you than what your camera is showing us? Thanks for the videos

  • @ron8566
    @ron8566 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No Eley 10X?

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Surprisingly it shoots terribly in the rifle so no Tenex for this gun.

  • @Josef_R
    @Josef_R ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's the tuning video?

  • @paulgoyette8222
    @paulgoyette8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get much better consistency with my Ruger PRR the CCI Standard Hollow point than the regular. You may want to try it.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of the hollow point 22LR ammunition is supersonic which poses a challenge when shooting the longer ranges where the bullet becomes unstable when traveling through the subsonic barrier. There are subsonics, but I haven't found any locally. I'll keep an eye out though. Thanks for the tip!

    • @paulgoyette8222
      @paulgoyette8222 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CopperStarPrecision I just ordered from CCI direct… $13.99 per 100
      I use them in ARA Factory Class and IR50/50 Factory Class… 1050fps 40grain. Because the Hollow Point they are real consistent. Used them for 100mter silhouette shoot and held line awesome.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know. I'll have to check them out. Currently my SK Rifle Match is working well, but it's always good to have more options.

  • @KTthe1true
    @KTthe1true 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    noob question what’s the advantage of sub sonic vs standard vs hyper? just got my RPR and thinking about using the stanadard CCI HP but might want to try the CCI Subsonic HP

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I should make a full video about this, but the general idea is a follows: For precision shooting (what I'm using the rifle for) you get more accuracy if you start subsonic. If you start super sonic then after a certain distance the projectile slows down and goes below the speed of sound. This is known as the transonic zone. In this zone the projectile experiences a lot of turbulence from the sound wave catching up to the bullet and decreases accuracy.
      HP's need a specific velocity at the target to properly expand, so if you're varmint hunting then super sonic velocity is more important than overall accuracy. You can still have decent accuracy with super sonic ammo, but it will put you at a disadvantage for precision sports like NRL-22.

  • @Quality_Guru
    @Quality_Guru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Currently working on setting up a base class NRL22 Rifle build. I started to source various 22LR ammo but could only find 1 box of Lapua Center-X ammo. Is there a site that you use to source quality match 22LR ammo?

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Match ammo has been really hard to find lately. Killough Shooting Sports usually lets you buy by lot for Eley ammo, but both Match and Texex are out of stock. Even AmmoSeek isn't showing much Center-X in stock anywhere.
      My Local Store (Bruno's Shooters Supply) currently has 184 boxes of Eley Match EPS, unfortunately of the three lots they had in stock none worked in my rifle (not to say it wont work in yours). If you order a brick (10 boxes) you'll likely get the same lot number as they will be plastic wrapped together. There are also a good chunk of Wolf Match Target and Wolf Match Extra, typically not as good as the other brands, but you never know. They do ship so what you could do is order a box or two of a bunch of different types and then call them to see if they have more of the same lot that works in your rifle and then place a bigger order. Kind of a gamble, but that is the state of the world right now.
      I wouldn't discount 22LR pistol ammo. As long as you're not going supersonic pistol match ammo has the potential to give you similar accuracy. It's usually loaded to a different pressure and has a different bullet profile, but still will work in a bolt action rifle (may not cycle in all semi auto rifles).
      When you find something that works be prepared to buy as much as you can and stick with it. A tuner can help tighten the groups (video on that soon).
      Last option would be Lapua or Eley testing centers in the US. I'm confident they would find something that would work really well for your rifle, but that means shipping your barreled action (if you aren't local) and then being prepared to buy a case (5000 rounds) or multiple cases at a time.
      Best of luck.

    • @Quality_Guru
      @Quality_Guru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CopperStarPrecision Greatly appreciate the in-depth detail. I haven’t started to formally compete, but some friends are gathering together to do a 22 LR bench rest test at 100, 300, and 1100 yards. I’ll let them know that I had lots of instruction from a wise mentor that invested a great deal of his time to pour into me.

  • @zaleski727
    @zaleski727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What height scope rings are you using?

  • @braylinmangrum724
    @braylinmangrum724 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did u get your bolt so smith

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't done anything to the bolt yet (I will in future videos), just many many rounds downrange (1500 or so). It started smoothing out after 600-800 rounds.

    • @braylinmangrum724
      @braylinmangrum724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CopperStarPrecision ok

  • @tommyj7087
    @tommyj7087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try Eley Match.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm working on sourcing some lots of Eley Match for future videos and I have some Tenex saved up for competitions. Stay tuned!

  • @scarbourgeoisie
    @scarbourgeoisie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For all those extras, you get a CZ457 Pro Varmint that will blow that thing out of the water straight out of the box.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably, but I already run a CZ457 in Open Class and wanted to try something different. The CZ457 Pro Varmint will still likely need an arca rail and some form of weight balancing (which isn't the easiest to do on that style stock) for a true competition setup. A lighter trigger would also be a plus. To each their own.

  • @typedeaf
    @typedeaf ปีที่แล้ว

    Lapua whatever testing! Do it!

  • @rustynut1967
    @rustynut1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's the tuner video?

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the works, I have a few other projects taking up time at the moment, but it's coming.

  • @hopefloats7573
    @hopefloats7573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Testing the rifle at Lapua and buying a $1400 case of ammo seems a bit ridiculous for a class that is supposed to be a "budget" class.

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, but you're going to have to buy ammo anyway. Center-X is slightly more expensive than some of SK or Eley ammo, and by spending $50 at the testing center you skip the hassle of lot testing. There's also no obligation to buy the case so you can spend the $50 to get an idea of the potential accuracy of the rifle and then try to find ammo that gets close to that. Plus a case would last me 2-3 years of matches/practice.
      I agree that it is overkill for a base class rifle and I'll probably only end up doing it for my Open rifle.
      Cheers.

  • @jefflayton5889
    @jefflayton5889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember the more you shoot it the tighter those groups will get…

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sitting at 600 rounds through it now, hope it will tighten up in the next 400 rounds or so.

  • @Josef_R
    @Josef_R ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is your scope so out of focus? Shouldn't you be able to read the text with that thing?

  • @Pew_pewchronicles
    @Pew_pewchronicles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All this testing is meaningless when you use a Ruger precision rifle because there is nothing precision about it. It’s just a cheap plinker

    • @CopperStarPrecision
      @CopperStarPrecision  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would have to disagree considering it's shooting in the low 3's and I posted the 6th highest score out of 1134 base class shooters in the entire country at this month's NRL-22 match... but to each their own.

    • @Toimu13
      @Toimu13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CopperStarPrecision I love Ruger! About how many people use a Ruger in Base class?

    • @D70340
      @D70340 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My Ruger RPR shoots right next to my best CZ457`s at 200yds, so i will have to disagree with your misinformation statement.

    • @Pew_pewchronicles
      @Pew_pewchronicles ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@D70340 that’s great for you but that’s probably just one of many thousand guns that don’t shoot well. As for me it takes more than that a polymer gun is made cheap looks cheap and I like quality workmanship