THIS Is The BEST Off-Roader You Can Buy! G-Wagon vs 4Runner vs Wrangler | TFLori S.1 EP.1
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- ( www.TFLcar.com ) In this Epic TFL Off-Road Review and Drag Race we take three of the most off-road worthy vehicles you can buy and run them up a very slick and snowy Colorado Mountain. Is the Mercedes-Benz G wagon or the Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro or the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon the most dirt worthy vehicle. PLus we drag race all three to find out which one is the fastest.
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How Good or Bad is the New Jeep Gladiator in the dirt? We compare it to the Classic Jeep Comanche here to find out: th-cam.com/video/e9awHuJ6sQw/w-d-xo.html
The Fast Lane Car I really like the new ORI I think crawl control might be a added like 5 point (possibly subjective) score. Great idea though!!
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Please watch this to see the difference between a G-Wagon with poop tires, and a G-Wagon with good tires.
You guys are shit offload drivers . SAD SHIT
i think the g wagon should get an exception for the tires. mercedes gives it a joke of offroad tires knowing 99.9% will never touch dirt.
@@maxwell5428 Perhaps for the price Merc could include a set of off road tires
G550--the hottest girl you ever dated
Wrangler--the first love you never forget
4runner--the one you marry and live happy ever after
G550 - the hot girl you love but can't afford
Wrangler- the crazy girl that can hang with the boys and is down for anything
4runner- your every day Jane, nothing to brag about but gets the job done.
Because the Toyota probably is the lowest maintenance lol
@@djayt1215
G550 - the hot girl you really can't afford.
Wrangler - the crazy girl you can't afford.
4Runner - your everyday Jane, who you still can't afford.
Wrangler is the best of the 3, watch the video
@@djayt1215 dude i just died reading this LMAFO
Kinda feel bad for the cameramen standing there out in snow. We as viewers remember you and guys get our respect for making this video happen. Thank you
Jus sum snow Dey not no bitches ☝️💯💯
@@enlightenedg3843 Do you even grammar?
@@eduardosampoia5480 Dey just sum snow, Dey not no b*tches.
@@eduardosampoia5480nice grammar man
MAN! That Blue 4runner on the white snow! That contrast cannot be beaten!
Yes 👍 I agree ☝️
Voodoo blue.
I think I'd rather see the Land Cruiser go up against the G-Wagon.
There are plenty of Russian youtube videos that do that, check out the Manager Anton channel.
Spoiler alert : the G class demolishes everything.
Might be more capable, but you'll never see a G-Wagon used the same way that the LC is used. An LC looks good with a few scuff marks on it, like it's been used the way it ought to be. Scuffs on a G-Wagon make the owner look like they don't care for their stuff.
ktpinnacle it’s been done, it failed.
Or... how about a run off between the most expensive off-reader offerings from these three manufacturers plus one from Land Rover, ie GWagon, Grand Cherokee, Land Cruiser, Discovery.
Now that's a battle!! Make it happen TFL.
No you’re wrong.
The best off-road vehicle is the one you aren’t afraid to use off-road and get all scratched, dented and dirty.
Yeah like a fifteen-year-old Jeep Rubicon or modified pickup truck. In a way this entire test is flawed because no one is going to take their brand new vehicle into a situation like this. So why single out the Mercedes... It's no newer than the rest of them or nicer than the rest of them they're all new and nice and in a way it's not any more expensive than the rest of them since it's going to be owned by someone who can afford it
Gabesafish, we get it, you have an XJ...
This is the best answer. I bought a Raptor to go off road and quickly realized it's a shit off-roader for this very reason.
@@jclar3565 I agree with MOST of what you're saying but the G Wagon is more expensive in very single way imaginable. It costs a whole lot more to buy, it costs a while lot more to maintain and it costs a whole lot more to repair.
J Clar oh you’re wrong. I bought a 16 T4R and 15 Tacoma, then 18 Tundra all new and all were promptly taken into the mountains of Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Idaho and Montana for rock bashing, sloppy mud and desert running before they even had permanent plates. There are some of us out there that bought these vehicles to be the off roader they are not a fancy mall crawler. Got dents, scratches and stories to go with them.
Tires, best mod ever.
front locker on the 4runner and it would've been chilling on that trail though
@@benjacobson7490 Yeah, especially with the IFS limiting articulation. GM offers one on the colorado ZR2 and the new Bronco will have one. Hopefully Toyota will add a front locker to the next TRD.
@@tcv4 yeah, imo they should go back to solid axles, to compete with the wrangler better but ik they won't do that
OK, first of all, for the 4 runner, when it was slipping, TURN ON THE DAM REAR DIFF LOCK!
They did.
I was really surprised with the G550's performance considering the tire it comes with. Those Pirelli's look more like summer performance tires than all season light-off roaders.
Snow chains will fix that problem
Not sure why you would be surprised...it's almost $150k. It BETTER be good.
Toyota isn’t updating the 4runner because the car never breaks and is insanely reliable
Amen to that!! I agree! I LOVE TOYOTA! :)
So true
Exactly
It's also reliably insane.
the word is "lazy"
I love my 2000 4Runner Limited with multi-mode and the factory Locker. At 210k miles she's still solid as a rock, doesn't burn oil, and still has 215psi in all cylinders. She's ready to rock up to 500k miles. The 3rd Gen still looks good too 🤘
Scott K. I have an ‘01 runner with 360k miles, that the check engine light came on in for the first time...it was the gas cap seal going bad. The engine will literally last longer than the rubber gasket on the gas cap. Best all around vehicle ever made in my opinion.
Ya but 4th gen is better
My 96 Limited running strong @ 230k.
Like you, no oil burn etc & looking good
Evan White Autotrader etc majorty of Pro reviews disagrees with your take.
Their rating
#1 - (Third Generation)
#2 - (Second Generation)
#3 - (Fifth Generation)
#4 - (Fourth Generation)
#5 - (First Generation)
I miss my 1999 Limited so much. My sister totaled it...
I am not an off roader but put KO2 on all three vehicles and redo the test!
G Wagon is Schockle approved,
Wrangler is Rubicon Trail rated,
Every Toyota off-roader is proved on dirty Asian trails, African bush, Australian outback, Middle-east desert, so you can go everywhere :) and back.
Yota is so reliable, people turn it into a tank in hot zones
Toyota, the most loved by ISIS
legitimately didn't think i'd end up watching even 5 minutes of this video because i've seen so many of these types of comparisons but 45 minutes later, i ended up being late for work!
thanks for the awesome video! makes me super excited to hopefully get my hands on one of these things someday!
A front-facing camera is the same point value as a differential locker? Hmm....
Nicholas Bromley Agreed. Apparently a strong butt clenching can leave a lasting impression on Roman.
Ha ha! Right! Is it nice to have one ...i guess but is it a necessity ...nah.😸
Points should be deducted for having a camera on a trail rig.
hm...
Agreed... The front facing camera is fairly recent tech. Lockers are a must, cameras are a perk.
“I still think we can beat the Japanese and the Germans.”
-with gentle eyebrow flex.
Cool.
Sweet tire comparison. Let's be honest, anyone doing trails like this will get better tires than what comes stock if they aren't up to par from the factory.
Exactly!
Anyone doing trails like this, could do them in a trashcan with scooter wheels.
This trail was shit.
@@bgrutterdds Tires, Tires, Tires! It's all about the tires on that 4runner
Yes the design of the 4Runner is old, but at the same time, isn't it the most reliable of the bunch?
FAKE NEWS
Yes it is more reliable. Idk about the g wagon but its more reliable than the jeep.
@@machedari It's more reliable than g wagon as well.
What are you saying bro!😨 Toyota is the most reliable car company!😣
@@randomideas7799 it has nothing to do with how you take care of your vehicle? If its yota it just last longer..parts are better!!!
That's why I put KO2's on all my trucks.
Tires really do make the difference
I've been using BFG MT's and AT's for years. They are the best all around tire if you have to drive on the road and want to hit a trail.
How are the KO2’s in snow?
@@mikewellington2738 I've tried grabbers, mts and all terrain discoveries. Hands down the KO2's are the best I've ever run. We have them on our Chevy 2500 HD and they do amazing in snow. Also have them on my Nissan hard body 78 GMC Sierra and Dodge Durango. I was running around in 34 inches of snow pulling people out when we got hit hard. Little bit of slip but that's to be expected.
Go to discount tires if you're interested in a set, if you don't like em they'll take em back with in the first 30 days.
@@mikewellington2738 They are accepted as a snow tire in Canada, so damn good.
mike wellington excellent! The new bfg AT rubber compound is a huge improvement; especially on snow. I run BFG AT’s in the summer and Blizzaks on my Tacoma in Alaska all winter. The BFG’s have ~75% the traction of the Blizzaks. They’re not a dedicated winter tire but they’re impressively close.
Jeep for life. Love you all's channel. Watch this channel in my free time all I can.
TFL, you guys rock. Thanks for this review and the testing. I’d like to see more like this.
G550 - The hot and wealthy woman that will never run along the beach in her bare feet.
Wrangler - The woman you've always wanted but isn't very practical.
4Runner - The woman that at first, seems boring, but once you get to know her, really is the love you've been looking for.
HunterXray also the 4Runner is the woman that holds her age better then all the others lol. Meaning it’s not gonna break down with it’s proven reliable motor and drive components.
Feel like my girlfriend is the g550 lol
The is nothing boring about the 4RUNNER TRD PRO Voo Doo Blue
C Man I agree ☝️
Nah, the Wrangler is much more predictable, but not boring; only ever-so slightly more expensive, but doesn’t give you fits; doesn’t slip as often and can perform with or without the need to rev up, and best of all, no drama. This is the one you’re looking for.
$51,000 for a jeep ? This world done lost it's mind.
What’s even worse is that it’s a four cylinder 😂
In 1989 2-door Jeep Wrangler Rubicons sold for $15,000 adjudged for inflation at $31,000 today. Jeeps have always been $$$
Jesse pacheco yea but $31k is not 55k, so are you saying they should be 31k
Latent Tweet they are from a big 3 brand which means msrp is really only a suggestion. If you shop around you can get 6-7 grand off that fairly Easily which is much harder to do with Toyota for example.
Bryant V.W you can get a v6 and next year yoj can get a diesel
Nice to see you cleaning up the trails as you go. Thank you from all off road enthusiasts.
I really appreciate your guys' videos. Thanks so much!
Doug DeMuro stated that the 4Runner sucks because it does not come with Apple Carplay, I sure wish he would watch this video. We don't buy the 4Runner for head unit's and gadgets. We buy for off-roading capability.
Douglas Buck Toyota just announced the 4Runner is getting Apple CarPlay in the coming year. You don't have to use it, but it is nice to know it's there. I wonder if Toyota was listening to Doug 🤔
@@jaydot10 Thanks for the info! Maybe I should trade my 18 TRD Pro so I can meet with Doug's approval by having Apple Carplay!
I can guarantee that 90percent of people with a forerunner bought it because it looks cool. Not to take it off road
D Jay T let’s be honest jeeps are the king of mall crawlers
Bought our 4runner over the Jeep for a few reasons. #1 being reliability. #2 Safety. #3 no water leaks.
The BEST Off-Roader is one you can use. You should have brought Nathen with the Suzuki. ;O)
With its lack of lockers and terrain management, I don't think it can do that trail in those snowy conditions.
And the land cruiser
Agreed. Nathen in the Suzuki with the headband on giving it all the beans he could.
@@MichaelMiller-rg6ordrop a pair of lunchbox lockers in it for under $500 total and it would be beast
Old Man Jeeping and Biking you’re right but I think I remember them saying they wanted to keep the Samurai stock.
I’ll take the 4Runner any day of the week. Mine is 18 years old and always gets me home.
I'm so glad you did this video... and In the snow also. Thanks for more great content
The Jeep performed better in the snow because it had the superior tire. The only tire of the three that has the blizzard rating. It would be interesting how these three cars would do if they all had the KO2’s now that we know how they do with the oem tires.
I’m sure the locking front diff makes a huge difference as well
Jeep would still crush them both. Solid axles and sway bar disconnect would be the difference maker.
@@greg2772 well, I think the Toyota's is more for the high-speed off-road stuff.
Exactly. Who goes offroad without offroad tyres? 4 rubber tyres are nothing compared to 140k.
Ok Romans photo shoot with gwagon cracked me up!
Great review Gentlemen! Thanks.
Love the slow drag race. Another great video guys.
The crawl-drag race was the funniest thing I've seen in a good while. Great fun!
The old 4L V6 and 5 speed auto will outlast the other two powertrains by thousands of miles and decades
True my 96 forerunner still runs great with 346k miles on it
@Private Number and a hyundai sante fe is getting near 40k too...except u have to buy 2 or 3 of those to match the longevity of 1 4runner
Toyotas are one-trick ponies: "reliability." Not all of us keep our vehicles for 800k miles. Would rather drive an exciting, passionate vehicle that "only" lasts for 200k miles than an underpowered, uninspired dog.
@MysteriousOklahoma You're right. That's why I pay cash and only buy what I want to drive, not an uninspired, bland, appliance-like vehicle that appeals to the one-dimensional folks who only value "reliability" in its various, sometimes intangible forms. Regarding the planet, I agree that we are destroying it by needlessly and selfishly emitting approximately 40 billion tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year and are reaping the destructive results in the form of horrific climate change. There is a mandate in Europe that all new vehicles sold by 2035 must be electric.
@Private Number It's not out dated if it out lasts the new shit :P
Excellent review guys
Wow the wrangler makes that hill look effortless!❤
In my opinion you should fit all the vehicles with same tires. After all the tires are the only way to transfer the power to the ground. It would also result in a more fair comparison.
Blame MB for putting shit tires on that truck.
@David Kopp not us you offroad or if you have heavy snow where you live. I live in the mountains and it snows and I offroad a lot.
@David Kopp not true I have the bfK02 and they are silent!
The point was to test the cars as they shipped from the factory. So you can't talk about fitting the same tires here.
Great video. Do more of these. I’d like to see a LX/Land Cruiser video like this with other luxury suvs.
Was about to comment this 😂😂 Land Cruiser is one of the best
YES! The G-Wagon should have pitted against at least the Land Cruiser.
Land cruiser king of SUV.
Vanisshen yeah not the frickin 4Runner trash
@@rigobertogarza7945 How is the 4Runner trash? It outperformed the G in this video.
Jeep Wrangler: The off-road automotive equivalent of hold my beer.
And don't forget your tool box.
BPRescue 😂😂😂
Can't wait to have my own Wrangler
Slowest too...
@@BPRescue That Jeep is way more reliable than that G-wagon and it has closed the gap in reliability with the Toyota, thus the good resale values.
Awesome video. So entertaining. You should do more of these real-life experiences.
I love all 3 of these off road icons but that Jeep made off roading look uneventful. I realize tires play a big role but damn. As a ZR2 owner (in part because of your recommendation) I tip my hat to the Jeep. Nice!
U mean the Fiat?
@@americansniper1641 - even more embarrassing for the competition then?
@@americansniper1641 And? All of your "made in America" vehicles are just assembled with Mexican and Chinese parts by dimwits too ignorant to realize they are the bottom of the manufacturing barrel
@@americansniper1641 You do know the Wrangler is engineered by en entirely different team than the rest of the line up right? FYI when designing the JK, and JL the engineers took a lot of advice from the off road community including people in the after market business. Those Wranglers are JEEP's plain and simple!
@@Seenoevilspeaknoevilhearnoevil yes the under dog that cost more then the other two combined and built with crappy fiat parts by lazy alcoholics in the south if that's the underdog then maybe the underdog should lose
The slow drag test was awesome. For the first half i was screaming "You've got it in 2nd Tommy! You've got it in 2nd!".
Hey guys thanks for putting out these great videos. I appreciate how you guys are doing more and trying to push the envelope. Can you do a G Wagon vs Toyota Land Cruiser?
But same tyres.
Great comparison though. Good job. Not a marketing stunt really. Felt as if I was there test driving these machines
Ok I'll say it. This video is just bad ass!!!! Great job tfl crew. This is just a fun time in beautiful CO
I believe the ORI doesn’t weight tires high enough. Time and time again in many of your videos “it’s all about the tires”.
Jack Galuardi >>> I agree. A pair of A/S slicks on the most capable vehicle turns it it into a spinner. Good offroad tires on something not so offroad worthy makes a surprising difference in grip.
Kind of disagree, tires are the first and easiest thing to swap depending on what you want to use your truck for. Can't really say the G-wagon is worse off road because it's delivered on the wrong tires for the terrain? Would be like saying Usain Bolt sucks at running after forcing him to wear a pair of tap dancing shoes for a race...
@@texnorthman >>> I'll see your disagree, and raise you another disagree ;-) I think you just have a soft-spot for the Gestapo Vagon.
@@tactickleshtooper1753 You may be right ;) But I still feel that something as simple as swapping tires, done in 20 minutes at a tire shop, can't be compared to adding a lift kit or a diff lock or whatever. Would have liked to see what the stock G-wagon could do compared to the Rubicon if they were on the same tires, which anyone intending to use them for off road would do immediately.
Great point. the reason they’re rated as such is because tires are easy and relatively affordable to swap after the fact!
Thanks for going out in that weather, loved to see the snow! Disco2 Td5 in Brazil
Wrangler=the best off roader, gwagen=the chic magnet, 4Runner=you buy and keep.
Gevorg Nazaryan and that’s why I have a wrangler
Josh Phillips 😂
Josh Phillips and I, a 4Runner :)
u never trialed a G with Bayatyres. u never greenlaned a G with BFG AT´s on his feet. a G worker is a magnet. For chicks with a Kärcher in their overallpockets.
nothing than a jeep rubicon, I love mine, if only the build quality would be just a little better, but on the other hand you have always something to bolt around😃
Great episode. I think the scale is helpful and in this case, quite accurate.
For 4wd vehicles, only toyotas and nissans made in Japan can travel in the Australian outback without falling apart. Jeep and Land Rovers compete for last place but surprisingly the G wagon also shake apart on the corrugations. However, Mercedes and many other types of trucks handle the roads pretty well with some daily maintenance.
I have ordered toyota prados straight from the dealer with BF Goodrich tyres, you just have to think about your purchase. If you plan to play on sand frequently however stick with the factory standard 'soft roader' A/T tyres. Also,any slightly serious 4w driver would be adjusting tyre pressure to suit the conditions.
@rabblerouser After a few hundred kilometres of corrugated dirt roads, mine work or rocky deserts the bolts, welds, screws etc on jeeps, land rovers etc just come apart. Also many of the suspension components are not robust enough and break when placed under strain on river crossings. Toyota test all of their vehicles in Australia to be able to handle this punishment. Toyota has chosen a different position on the trade offs between cost, weight savings and strength. American toyotas are cheaper than elsewhere so it is possible that they are constructed with inferior components. In the US you don't need to drive thousands of kilometres on rough roads in temperatures up to 50 degrees celsius (122 degrees fahrenheit). Even on highways fuel may only be available every 300 kilometres or so and we have cattle stations bigger than many of your states. Australia has plenty of mountains near the coast but they have been worn down from being taller than the himalayas to not much more than 3,000 metres. More than 90% of the population lives in 0.22% of the country. Aftermarket high powered turbo and super charged wranglers with modified suspensions do well on sand dunes but generally they have to stick to bitchumen to survive.
I just heard that the jeep range received a one star safety rating in Europe and Australia. You would be stupid to buy a vehicle that is designed to kill you in a crash. The passenger compartment is already collapsing in a 64 kilometre per hour crash test. Lazy, stupid engineers.
Hey guys! All of the problems you experienced with the G-Wagen should be solved with it's new Trail Package. It includes higher profile BFG All Terrain tyres, smaller wheels (with a nice off-roady design), and more underbody protection. I think the reason most G-Wagens come with those all season tyres is, like you said, almost none of their owners will ever take them off road. But the ones that will, will get the Trail Package for sure.
Isn’t the land cruiser the most off road worthy Toyota?
4runner is a poor man's land cruiser of sorts. Want the v8 get a 4th generation (03-09) 4runner (same engine is used in tundra, land cruiser, Lexus GX460/470, and sequoia) or a Lexus GX 460/470 If you want more luxury than a 4runner. Just as capable off-road.
Landcruiser is better overall though. World's strongest frame and comes with all the lockers, like the G wagon does. But they're expensive though. So out of the 3, for the money, the 4runner is the best. Most versatile, and most capable in multiple categories. Not just focused on one thing only.
When the sequoia and land cruiser gets stuck, it takes the army Corp of engineers and a Sikorsky Sky Crane to air lift those 6,000 lb behemoths out of the woods.
@Supercreech your full of shit!! Land cruiser is by far a better off-roader
The best imo is the fj cruiser
Technically the Land Cruiser is the better offroader however that would be the 80 and 70 series not the 200's. I don't think the USA gets those and only the 4runner much like only the USA has the Toyota Tacoma and the rest of the world has the Hilux. It's a weird sort of thing to be honest
didnt think i would last 10 mins and ended up watching the whole thing good job fellas , if i was rich i would go the 3 point but i am not so Toyota has to win on price, bang for buck and reliability , Jeep is impressive in the dirt though but still couldn't buy one. great video 👍
I love those three but 4Runner is my winner forever
Goins2754 funny comment coming from a Grand Cherokee, let’s check in on that thing after 175k
Enjoyed every bit of the video. I’d go with the TRD Pro any day. 👍✌️
I want to see these things done with the two door Jeeps. Superior breakover, turning radius, and weight. Using the Unlimited is just handicapping the Jeep results. We aren't comparing how much junk you can stow in them, we're comparing off road capability.
I imagine they're comparing all the on road versions as well, mixing cars capable of both to keep a more level playing field? Less variables in the experiment maybe? Lol what do I know im just a random guy commenting on a video😂
So lucky! snowing in the in the month of May, while here I am rotting in this 43 C.
I'm a jeep guy but damn those 4runners are sharp!
@@m.youtube.com-r hahaha
great job gentlemen!
You MUST put on the SAME tires on all vehicles . until then, your comparisons are only 50% valid
Massimo Mtl I agree put the BF Goodrich KO2s on all of them then see what happens.
Not factory though 🤷🏻♂️ you can modify however you want. In that case you can make any of them do whatever you want them to do
This is how you film a G-Wagen in action : th-cam.com/video/oMFIPdOOi_Y/w-d-xo.html
Right...🤣😂😂
@@hesher866 I don't even consider tires a modification if they are on the stock wheels. Anyone off-roading is going to put some kind of AT tires on the vehicle. To test the actual vehicle performance, they should all have the same tires. The major negative for the G-class are those huge wheels. Frankly, I'd rather have 15 inch wheels on any of them. More rubber is always better.
If you didn't air down the tires, you're not going to get great grip.
They forgot ...rookie mistake
Why not let the Jeep go first once in a while to see how it performs on fresh snow, not a trail where it’s already been carved through by another?
Because the tires make all the difference and it wouldn't matter.
Going first is easier. Trail isnt rotted up by shitty drivers
Hello I enjoyed the video. Well done. The BF Goodrich tires ruled and showed that they make a huge difference in off road ability. Grip is important.
“Look at that bank vaunt go!!” ☺️
The fact of the matter is that the Jeep is the best of both worlds here. Obviously amazing off road but also way less than the G wagen while also being a lot more up to date and modern than the Toyota. So for me my money is on the Wrangler all day
Modern? Eh just cuz theres no fancy GPS touchscreen lol the 4runner feels more modern to drive, quieter and smoother
@@vadimnesen8060 the wrangler is definitely way more modern. The cluster is almost all digital. Can show you off road pages with articulation and suspension angles. You have a big touch screen. Also soft touch materials everywhere inside the jeep.
@@sootlifejew again. It's a 50 year old frame with same box design,no crumble zone , no research done for the car since the day it came out. A few gadgets added doesn't make it modern.
Just a great old jeep.
@@vadimnesen8060 an outdated frame design makes it less modern than a dinosaur motor and trans in the 4runner? Lol
Great video! Absolutely love these types of videos! I would be so scared taking a 200 series or the g wagon 😂 That's why I got a '97 (80 series) and a '99 (100 series) Land Cruiser. Still scared of scratching/denting it 😂
great video. loved the comparison at bare bones stock.
Love the video. Great job. Suggestion: There should be a point category for sway bar disconnect. That’s a pretty big deal when off-roading! That’s worth at least 5 points, if not more.
Would KDSS qualify?
That's an XJ (97-01) fender flare!!!!!!!
x2 good catch. XJ marking its territory!
Put the same tires as whats on the wrangler on the 4 Runner and do another test. Guarantee the results from the 4 Runner will be much different.
Tires make a big difference.
Who wants a 2 liter turbo? In terms of long term reliability alone the yota I'd take hands down.
But they test them as they come out of the factory
@@withintheglass2170 No, they test them as they got them from the dealer. If they had ordered the cars themselves from the factory, they would have some options on tires as well as all the other stuff that brought the price up to a 140k. Someone else had configured the cars, and the G-wagon was clearly meant for dry roads in this configuration. Personally I think it's a crime to put those tires on a G-Wagon, but there seems to be no actual laws on the matter :)
Now the Jeep may well be a better off road car than the the others here, but this test only proves that you need the right tires for the conditions you drive in. That said, I have only driven older G-wagons in military configurations, and they seemed unstoppable, so I have no real base for comparison.
I agree to a point. I have a set of GT Altimax r43 all season for my Rav4 and they are better in the snow than Hankook dedicated winter tire. And even with max performance summer tires I can still drive in snow. Just dont want to but yes there is a big difference. I just dont understand how those Nitos were so bad.
@@BjrnRuthberg I know I'm old school but I just don't think of Mercedes when I think of off roading.
This was a LOT of fun!
Nice reviews Guys
Great test TFL this is how you buy these trucks so they should be performing well offroad. I have a Rubicon with 70k miles and zero issues, a 4Runner wouldn’t bring me joy so I am willing to take a risk with my Jeep.
We need a calendar with those poses 🤣
The guy in the Toyota did not understand the crawl control...
Also, the guy driving the 4Runner was the worst driver.
Why didn't you just measure the Toyota's Breakover Angle ?
They did, the jeep is equal to the 4 runner in the end
If I was buying it would be a 4 Runner for reliability.
MASKOAA 100%. Also, it’s more practical for carrying stuff around.
The Benz will break down when all it’s electronics start acting up. And the Wrangler is full of fiat/chrysler parts, which will inevitably break down as well.
@@headers12 yes people who review these things forget about the rest of us but hear in Europe Mercedes-Benz G-Wagen isn't that bad and they don't break down the whole not the cars anyway
Agree 100%. Neighbor has one with 350k miles, normal wear and tear, new spark plugs at 150k, no problems. He loves it, but he is fortunate gas isn't expensive.
@@headers12 all car parts break down with wear and tear. The Wrangler like most modern vechiles is full of shared Sourced parts from around the world. Second Toyota's current gen is full of problems when compared to the early 2000 models. It seems to most everyone, that all Toyota Zealots sing the same tune like a broken record when it's demonstrated how outdated many of Toyota's models are when compared to there competitors. So when the competing vechile drives better, higher MPG, increased performace, more modern and in demand infotainment(Car play) etc.... All we hear us the same mantra, "But the Toyota is more realible"
Then you guys exacerbate the level of difference in realibility between Toyota and the competitors by acting as if the other vechiles are Lemons.
I used to sound like Paul until I bought a 100 series. 😁
I'm in Golden, I have the same JLUR but in Mojito! I put on a winch and front and rear poison spyder bumpers after getting stuck in the snow in November on Yankee Hill! Can't wait to follow you for upgrades! First... lets get some new LEDs... I hate my headlights!
I have a 2015 4Runner TRD Pro with 50k on the odometer. I’ve taken it off-road all over the West with zero problems. I do have the regularly scheduled maintenance done every 5,000 miles. Yes, it’s old school; however, it works - all the time. I would buy another one in a heartbeat, but this one has at least another 100,000 miles to go!
I Love how Roman is literally just laughing and enjoying being stuck lol
Reminds me of the Goldilocks video you did years ago. 😊
Yes to the hotdogs with mustard Roman!!! 👍🏼
Those KO2s are the best. Had them on my big truck. Miss them on my TACO
Wow I love it and thank goodness for 4Runner
lol, i was watching this and had 0 intention of commenting but that photoshoot Roman did was epic and made my morning. Now that I`m on i had a 1981 Toyota Hilux short wheelbase pickup. This wee truck only had 96hp and went anywhere, also i had BFG all terrains { which i have run since 1981} best all-round tires in my opinion, i also used to run BFG mud terrains on some of my trucks. I live in Northern B.C, Canada,
So the 4Runner's Crawl Control, Multi-terrain select and A-Trac does not constitute a terrain management system? Should be another +5 as per your scoring chart. IMO
I think it was transfer case OR terrain management. So they went with the transfer case since it's more points. But yeah, I think it they should alter that to AND/OR.
I feel like 5 gears is more than enough for offroad.
rashard D'Auvergne you may need 3 if in low range.
My 04 Tahoe Z71 has only 4 and it’s a fun ride off road.
Yes you are dead on bro. Some guys need to put down what they don’t drive, 5-6-20 gears my ass🍀
Considering I'm old enough to remember some cars with 2 speeds and the most any had was 3, 5 is plenty in my book.
This was a great comparison. I really wish Tommy had tried without the lockers, only engaging them if and when needed. I'd like to see just how capable the brake-assist is. I don't have lockers on my JKU and I've never had an issue.
Great video. Tommy has me loving the wrangler too.
Can't wait for the new Bronco to join the TFL 4x4 challange.
psi should've been at 18psi on all vehicles for a more accurate comparison
I came to the comments to see what the PSI was set at.
Not enough sidewall on the g wagon
You never see a G Wagen offroad 🤣
It's essentially the same as Land Rovers. It takes seven years and it's third owner for a Land Rover to be actually off-roaded.
@@psychologicaltirefire8190 not true, I’ve got a 2019 RR Lwb autobiography and it spends about 70% of its time off-road and not just around a farm, I take it everywhere off-road. I go green laneing in it, enough said. (If you don’t know what green lanes are, just search up strata Florida green lane, I do that all the time in mine, no modifications what do ever.)
Thanks you for this video
Excellent exercise guys, Thank you. Let's add a Land Cruiser and a Land Rover to the mix.
I don't quite understand the comment that the 4runner engine feels weak unless you rev it when it has 7% more torque (18 more lbs-ft) at the same rpm compared to the 3.6 in the Jeep that no one ever complains about. And with the hard top, they weigh about the same. Thats 12 more HP that the Jeep at that rpm. Transmission complaints? sure. Power? I guess I don't share that sentiment.
He was talking about putting it in high while climbing obstacles which you don’t do. Always low range when climbing a obstacle. Every engine is going to feel “gutless” when In high 4 going up an obstacle lol
@@Nonfat_Snacks Dumbest complaint ever by people. Nobody does technical trails in 4HI.
Also I don’t believe he turned off the traction control in the drag race, which should help
I took my 2012 Honda Pilot through similar sections using the locker and it was shocking how well it did. However, the suspension just isn't built to take on these conditions consistently.
I live in Russia. There are a lot of snow in the winter. But I want to live in The US, especially in Colorado. When I am watching this video, I think that this snow is beautifull! Colorado is amazing state! My opinion about this test. Obviously, it isn't off-road test. Maybe it's light off-road. But in Russian off-road really harder. Anyway, thank you for this test! I like to watch off-road tests by you, guys.
Toyota hasn't updated the 5-speed 4.0 because it just works so well. Super reliable.
Please explain why they updated (downgraded) the Tacoma drivetrain?
Reliable but not as capable since it was struggling more than the Jeep.
Most cars can be reliable as long as you take care of it
No question, the Fiat and the Mercedes will be insane maintenance hogs over time. A lot of flash up front, a lot of cash down the tubes down the road.
greghowardbell At least they have reason for the extra maintenance as they offer capabilities that Toyota does not have. I mean with Jeep, it’s doing more ‘gymnastics’ in more difficult obstacles while with MB, it’s the luxury part.
The ORI on my cherokee KL is 94. (76 out of factory) You really should add suspension travel as a score
Land Rover would heartily agree
I've driven Jeeps for a very long time and had no issues with any of them. Currently I'm driving a 2016 Wrangler with over 150,000 miles on it. half of those miles have been on trails across the country. I change the fluids regularly and follow my maintenance schedule. All my Jeeps have only used synthetic oil which I do believe has contributed somewhat in my vehicles longevity.