Ma Te vs Chen Meng (Men vs Women)

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  • Ma Te vs Chen Meng (Men vs Women)
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  • @azraelrose
    @azraelrose 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ma Te is so consistent and smart. What an amazing performance!
    Thanks for the video coach :)

  • @dante5012
    @dante5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    women cannot beat defensive male players like Ma Te. They play fast but lack the power that you need against defensive players.

    • @pukulu
      @pukulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes, male defensive players can pop the ball up and still return many of the slams of the top women. In addition, Ma Te (and Joo Se Hyuk in the recent past) has an offense and the women have trouble handling it.

    • @quockhanhpham626
      @quockhanhpham626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. You need the strength not the speed when play against defensive player. And woman don't have it.

    • @user-jo4pb3qu6v
      @user-jo4pb3qu6v ปีที่แล้ว

      Xxxxxxxxx

    • @eviesyd
      @eviesyd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Sun ying sha vs Ma te 3-0 , you are welcome

  • @pukulu
    @pukulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Chen Meng did well. She won a game and was competitive in 3 of the 4 games that she lost.

    • @playerhard1135
      @playerhard1135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      E ela competiu com mais quem ??

  • @mrogeriolima1
    @mrogeriolima1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Queria ver a Sun contra o Fan, aposto minhas fichas na Sun.

  • @shanelawson5072
    @shanelawson5072 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ma Te had ALL the pressure.... ❗

  • @user-pk2fu4kz4d
    @user-pk2fu4kz4d 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What is Ma Te's inventory? What does he play with

  • @pablomorillo2639
    @pablomorillo2639 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like it

  • @michaelfarmhand
    @michaelfarmhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Men and women are different. Chen Meng is No. 1 ITTF ranked for women, Ma Te is 170 ITTF ranked for men, yet he beat Chen Meng easily.

    • @atwoatwoktwo678
      @atwoatwoktwo678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well not so sure, at least in TT. She did beat Fan Zhendong!

    • @michaelfarmhand
      @michaelfarmhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@atwoatwoktwo678 That was a handicap match and FZD wasn’t really up for it. I watched the match - men vs women Chinese team exercise

    • @BjoernSteltingTT
      @BjoernSteltingTT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      he is mich better Level then 170 like 30-50 for sure worldranking is not the truth Ranking..

    • @uchihadayne6506
      @uchihadayne6506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He is better than his world ranking suggests, but he also isn’t trying. Some of the attacks he made were incredibly slow compared to when he is playing a real match, and Ma Te doesn’t go off the table and start lobbing or making exaggerated motions when he chops. It was obviously for exhibition. But it does also give the Chinese women a chance to play against superior players and a very different style than playing other women, which will make the Chinese women much stronger in general

    • @gorodph
      @gorodph 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ma Te wasn't even trying.

  • @david0ade
    @david0ade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just imagine if Ma Te was a non Chinese female player from Europe beating all the top Chinese female player, everyone would go crazy right now

    • @cyruswang3863
      @cyruswang3863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but he isn't- that's like saying if fan zd is japanese smh

    • @24ghosh24
      @24ghosh24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      if he was in the US he could simply dress up like a woman and claim he was one😂

    • @shanelawson5072
      @shanelawson5072 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah... He does look a bit EFFEMINATE ⁉️😘

    • @AS004-xf4jc
      @AS004-xf4jc หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or if he (they) is an American trans 😅

  • @peterreid9769
    @peterreid9769 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Poor show from Chen against this dude ranked, 171. To be fair though, she struggled with his defensive style and prefers pace on the ball.

    • @seanreddy658
      @seanreddy658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And to be fair, Ma Te is probably top 50 player in the world, but doesn’t get to play much on the international stage, and that will affect world ranking. He’s a top tier chopper.

    • @pukulu
      @pukulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@seanreddy658 Maybe higher than top 50. Top 30 seems reasonable. I've watched the best defensive players for 13 or 14 years and Ma Te is as good as any of them with the exception of Joo Se Hyuk. Other very good ones include Ruwen Filus, Gionis Panagiotis and Hou Yingchao. I think that the Chinese table tennis association knows how valuable Ma Te is for sparring against their best players. Ma Te was a bit better than Hou Yingchao even when Hou won the Chinese table tennis championship in 2019.

  • @loopkill
    @loopkill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Stylistically, this is the absolute worst match up possible between men and women. Chen Meng would have a MUCH better chance of beating offensive men that are much higher ranked than Ma Te. Chen Meng's advantages of being quick off the table are basically useless against Ma Te. Additionally, her instincts of when it's safe to push or slow loop aren't calibrated to play against men because women don't hit as hard--it would've helped a lot if she went for some backhand loops instead of pushing during certain points. But my point is that there is more nuance going on here than just men being way stronger than women
    PS - Ma Te is also way stronger than his 171 world ranking suggests. It's kind of undisputed that he's the best chopper in the world, but he rarely gets to compete internationally because he's from China, so he doesn't exactly get a chance to improve his ranking

    • @1xXNimrodXx1
      @1xXNimrodXx1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he just has to idrntify as a women ez as that

    • @d_reeves1133
      @d_reeves1133 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1xXNimrodXx1 why don't you do that push you ranking in trans women no. 1. Az ez az that.

    • @1xXNimrodXx1
      @1xXNimrodXx1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d_reeves1133 because I like competition

    • @d_reeves1133
      @d_reeves1133 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1xXNimrodXx1 I suppose it's in masturbations because I don't see xXNimshit or smth even in the lowest of world ranking of any sport.

  • @Nil-js4bf
    @Nil-js4bf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ma Te has some seriously heavy backspin based on some of the failed returns.

  • @xuzhou2017
    @xuzhou2017 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    its kinda unfair i think, for women players its hard to handle defensive male player despite her level. She needs alot of energy to break through that defense.

  • @markfrisman359
    @markfrisman359 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ma Te seemed relaxed and made some unusual side spin shots…no chance for his opponent. He is clearly on much higher level.

  • @r.h.4577
    @r.h.4577 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ma Te today the best defender of the world!👌👍🏓

    • @Vidflm
      @Vidflm หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really like and enjoy watching Ma Te's defensive BH style, which rubber does he use on his Backhand? Does anyone know?

  • @heshamsharaf3053
    @heshamsharaf3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great wall of China 🏓🎄🌈🎨💡🕯️🥊🎈💖

  • @ericwong2674
    @ericwong2674 ปีที่แล้ว

    陳夢怎麽沒有關注馬特的反手削球,轉速太高,不要用拉球囘,應該搓過去,不要讓他發揮

  • @Manikandan_youtube
    @Manikandan_youtube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma tar so much spin 😀

  • @thomasduran490
    @thomasduran490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CHEN Meng is very tired, it's like throwing pitches in a baseball game repeatedly. Ma Te varies his spin so much , then he attacks so much as well, he has beaten alot of the best men's players and has won tourneyments. I beleive Chen Meng needs more matches with Ma Te to learn his unique style, Chen Meng usually figures out how to beat an opponent, in the long run, she would learn how to win against Ma Te, I know she can beat alot of the beat ranked men in the world

    • @quockhanhpham626
      @quockhanhpham626 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its all about strength. Women don't have it. They have speed but not strength. When play with defence players like Ma Te you need more power forehand for counter his spin. So even she has more practice with him or player like him, it will not change anything, and like i remember she never win man players in real match.

    • @thomasduran490
      @thomasduran490 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@quockhanhpham626 sorry, I don't agree, Mima Ito has the fastest speed on her slams in the game

    • @quockhanhpham626
      @quockhanhpham626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomasduran490 yeah in the game with woman not man.

    • @d_reeves1133
      @d_reeves1133 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@quockhanhpham626 I beat they would beat you to 0-11 in every set tho, stop comparing men and women you dumb shit, just because you are men doesn't mean you are equal to Ma long or Fan Zendong.

    • @gorodph
      @gorodph 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Women have absolutely no chance against men. So much difference in power...

  • @nurhayatise8817
    @nurhayatise8817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mate have full power, chen meng can't beat mate

  • @schlockmeister754
    @schlockmeister754 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ma Te doesn't seem to have a ranking, does anyone know if he used to have one? I prefer watching men vs women to same gender matches now. Men just wack the ball as hard as they can and women remain glued to the table and their rallies have no tempo changes. I kinda find both equally boring and think the ITTF should have a mixed-gender world ranking. I haven't watched too many games any more the last 4-5 years but these are great fun and are always a contrast of styles!

    • @hjiang5758
      @hjiang5758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Matt is the only defender in the national table tennis team and his main job is to partner in practice

    • @PianistsRavel
      @PianistsRavel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ranking is not indicative of his level of play, for some reason the Chinese do not send him out for international competitions. Therefore, no points accumulated. Maybe he's more of a practice partner for upcoming defensive players against the Chinese.

  • @tizumigmd3859
    @tizumigmd3859 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Third video

  • @vinadamsllc
    @vinadamsllc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty cool Coach, battle of the sexes!

    • @pingsunday
      @pingsunday  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you @Vin Adams

  • @tomthomas9708
    @tomthomas9708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ma Te is very consistent but Chen should be winning against guys like this.

    • @gorodph
      @gorodph 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No chance against any man ranked in top 100.

    • @tomthomas9708
      @tomthomas9708 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gorodph Of course she could. Second tier female players like Juan Liu have beaten men ranked in the top 100 and lower.

    • @putiputain1230
      @putiputain1230 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol, treating Ma Te like any regular guy. Ma Te has beat top many top 20 male players what makes you think Chen Meng will ever do that?Only in your tiny mind, boy.

    • @tomthomas9708
      @tomthomas9708 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@putiputain1230 Please feel free to go and bore someone else.

  • @TimeattackGD
    @TimeattackGD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    im wondering if a woman from other ethnicity with generally bigger people has potential to be a serious threat for top male players if they grew up with chinese top training etc. this isnt trying to be mean but i feel like players from other countries would physically be able to outperform chinese (atleast in women category) but i guess they simply dont have the same training methods someone over there can get.

    • @vincenzoTTop99
      @vincenzoTTop99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Has nothing to do how big a person is, there are 16 years old world class players that have small bodies, of course man's have an advantage because they are stronger and more athletic, and a top woman would never beat a top men that the reality.

    • @michaelfarmhand
      @michaelfarmhand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      German female players are bigger and that hasn’t helped much

    • @anhmt90
      @anhmt90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't forget bigger in size also means slower in movement. Have you wondered why chinese male players are not physically stronger than male players from Europe but their strokes seems to be more powerful? E.g., Ma Long with the most powerful forehand in the world? It's all about techniques, my friends. I think there are some videos in this channel explaining this fact.

    • @david0ade
      @david0ade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just imagine if a non Chinese female player who plays exactly like Ma Te and just as skillful as Ma Te suddenly beating all the top Chinese Women player, everyone would go crazy right now.

    • @anhmt90
      @anhmt90 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@david0ade I'm almost certain that there's no female players in the world having such a powerful and consistent inside-out forhand attack like Ma Te does. He did score many points with that stroke in this match though.

  • @harrischen6103
    @harrischen6103 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    男生讓女生

  • @industrialengineeringcorpo2034
    @industrialengineeringcorpo2034 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t agree.chen beat Fan twice in a row.Bur MA tae should be stronger than Fan

    • @hridoyahmed1433
      @hridoyahmed1433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro, chen meng beat fan twice...plz give me the video link or source or news..i watched one but other one can not find

    • @gorodph
      @gorodph 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, she didn't. She has absolutely no chance against Fan Zhendong.

    • @rahmatulakbar5005
      @rahmatulakbar5005 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea they let her start from 9 i believe

    • @marleocjsdjostcte7289
      @marleocjsdjostcte7289 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your IQ is below the horizon.

  • @lighthousemaccabee8133
    @lighthousemaccabee8133 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This lady smashed the girls so bad she has to play men lol....She did get beat a couple of times by a lady but I think that was just a couple of fluke games

  • @denny92859042
    @denny92859042 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    陳夢的時代早就結束

  • @gopals-rv7rh
    @gopals-rv7rh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ㄱㄴㅁㅅㄹㄴ묘

  • @alexli15
    @alexli15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    女的怎么可能打得过男的 莫名其妙的比赛 练练手得了

    • @loopkill
      @loopkill 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta love blanket sexist af statements like this. For anyone who's wondering, he said "how could women ever beat men?" 😒

    • @AK474KA
      @AK474KA 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      输了就理所当然,赢了就牛逼刚刚的。稳赢,怎么不赢。