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00:00 Beginning
00:43 Back side
06:04 Front side
07:26 Rotation
Large guide block (cnc milling)
CNC Production: ruckbs.sk/
Machine: Three-axis machining center brand UDM-2216
CAD/CAM software: Cimatron 15
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Hey guys. I have a new intro in the video, so don't panic. I hope you like it...😀
We like it, don't worry 😁
Oke sir 👍
we like... dude.. I PANIC About your clamping .. Really enough force..????,,🥹🥹🥹
Салют. Зачёт. Вот деталька так деталька. Прям мечта, а то надоело с мелочью возиться.
Great piece of milling and well filmed mate thanks for sharing 👍
Turned out beautifully, nice work...
Keep on with the videos! Like from Romania💪
Lucky I discovered the channel by chance - great.
Hello sir..you did it very professionally..i was inspired by your way of working
Have you ever entertained the idea of pre cutting a blank for a piece like that on a water jet table? have cut similar pieces with our waterjet and then finished them with mill. it equals huge time saving as well as tool saving. example i have done a large automotive blower spacer, 6 inches thick.
Between the multi machine/operator coordination, additional setup/g-code creation and part movement i highly doubt a 1 off production wouldnt justify the additional processs
Yes you are right we are doing like that, we can save time and tool life
Great video, and great parts produced 👍👌
Awesome machining .
Niedlich kleines Stück Metall ! Super Arbeit !
Amazing finishes especially even in deep cavity machining
svaka cast momci samo naprijed
Nice work man, cool video 😉
Good job lads 😎
Hello oh wonderful trabajo CNC saludos desde argentina*
Amazing 👏
Simply amazing. The finishing is outstanding🌟
Im still too rookie to handle a monster like this😭 I go back to my 2 axis lathe.
Keep up the good work guys
M30
M3
You funny! :D
M30
Monster? *litteraly is working on a 5 axis with a 5.5 Tonns part on it*
@@sarahbentague1466 yeah whatever. Hey , do you want to test my G83? Or maybe G88 , if you like it wild☺
Very good job
And I thought my HAAS VF-4SS was on the bigger side. This mill is huge!
порадовало как чистовые стенки получил фрезой с пластинами, легко и просто, может чуть долго, но это уже не важно.
это одна из возможностей фрез с высокой подачей, она же не только в обдирку умеет 🙂 малая ширина резания, высокая скорость резания и подача средняя. Спокойно можно поймать Ra2,5
по стенке, я так понял, не работает та периферия которая под углом, а работает носик пластины, который в снятии мяса практически не используется. если я правильно вас понял, то с вами абсолютно согласен
я еще обратил внимание на поверхность окружности на которой нет вертикальной полосы, появляется при смене направлений Х и У . станок качественный
@@retoxxx1 на данном типе фрез работает часть от нижней кромки пластины до переферийной - это 15 градусов от горизонтального плана. Обычно значение Ap достаточно маленькое. До 1 мм. Но, опять же, в зависимости от диаметра. Что касаемо полосы, то тут влияет очень много факторов, на самом деле. Начиная состоянием ШВП, продолжая жесткостью установа, принципом обработки (при винтовой интерполяции полосы не остаётся, впринципе) заканчивая настройками обработки для фрезерования (Look-Ahead, AI Look-Ahead) 🙂
что за деталь ? СПСБ
God job sir 👍
Amazing
Great video. 👍
Thanks
День стружки прям)
Nice one.
A Boring Bar or Fly Cutter would make better holes. (Better finish, more precise)
I'm not sure if it's faster, but it might be worth it
How are you picking up the work offsets?
do you ever get money back from the chips? i know the part that sells more than makes up for the loss of material stock but still..
I can't believe you got a beautiful finish like that stepping down with an incredible indexible mill!! Ours would have lines! Haha! How accurate is your machine at circle milling With mine since it's so big I can usually hold .0009" of a thousandth. Once again beautiful job love the video
Well thank you. The roundness is about 0.0004"
Walter makes some great indexable mills for side cutting. They leave almost no lines when finishing. I se them then i do jobs like this
We use sandvicks 390 cutters for that, I'm always amazed at the finish. We've tried kennametal and pramet and they leave huge steps.
We use is iscar for side milling walls,,there great when they are new and take .250" or less depth of cut but you can still see the step down really good. We should look more into Walter! We have some stuff from pretty much every make n model lol. We run the square insert (old style) 3" in iscar dry at 650 sfm and .05" a rev and it lasts a long time but again. Always see steps. I should look into that tool for for finishing
All inserts for indexible mill have only one target diameter for best stepping results, the bigger diameter difference bigger stepping errors. You need to check the catalogue or ask the rep guy (not every producer puts it in the catalogue). Some even makes special inserts grinded for every diameter
That was fairly ballsy running that in 1 vise. At the start, I thought it was just getting faced and flipped but once it started drilling, I was just waiting for the part to get ripped out...lol
when you change sides, how do you center the piece with a dial or a feeler
Muito top
As always, a great movie. How many shifts do you work?
2 shifts. Morning and afternoon
Nice
Гарно попроцювали.
В Чехії?
Looks good. Looked like you were running that rough feedmill a little slow or just being conservative.
I kept the cutting speed. I couldn't go faster
Good 👍
The best
Essas máquinas são incríveis muito bom 👍👍
What milling heads and tool holders are you using for that deep hole?
Hi, they are all from Pokolm. The holders are carbide.
Thank you for sharing this movie. Can I ask you some question about how much is one of these pieces?
And how long it take to be like this piece? And what cad/cam program did you use? Good luck to you
Hi, I don't know the price, I'm just a worker. The working time was about 22 hours. We use cad / cam Cimatron 15
Hey, I'm just curious about roundness tolerance of these big holes on the side ends. Shouldn't make them with some boring bar to meet tolerance expectations?
The holes have a size of 120H7. The machine does with a circularity accuracy of 0.01 mm so it's cool.
Man, how many knives did you use in roughing up? Is the tool badly damaged?
Четко!
Бесконечно можно смотреть на три вещи, как течёт вода, как горит огонь, и как вытачивается деталь из куска метала)) что за деталь, для чего она? Похоже на цилиндр от компрессора
Привет. Я не знаю для чего это. Мне просто нужно было это сделать. Может ты прав я не знаю
Bravo momci
Zahvaljujemo ti se😀
Почему расточными головка и не пользуетесь?
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How meny mashinig hours is this job?
The thread you were putting in was LEFT HAND ?YES
Not. Right thread, but the video was shot at 60 fps, so it appears to be a left-hand thread.
@@CncFrezar Ah ha...but betting I was the only one to ASK lol Did my toolmaking in1977 so seen lots of swarf.
That's what I thought too.
How many hours did you put in the part?
Mne je čudné to vrtanie klasickým vrtákom, ja vo firme tlačím na plátkové a postupne nám to kupujú, dokonca mám aj od Palbitu 37mm a ten stál nejakých 300€
Každopádne odpadá problém brúsenia, kedže niečo nad 15mm sa už dosť blbo brúsi, za jedno na to človek nemá vyhradené brúsky a babrať sa s orovnávaním kotúča zakaždým ked človek potrebuje nabrúsiť vrták za to nestojí. Nehovoriac že v rukách to solídne nabrúsiť ani nejde, sem tam sa podarí, ale inak bieda. Ono aj vyzerá že to je nabrúsené celkom dobre, ale nie je. Jednoducho vrták nabrúsený strojovo vrta inak
Na malé vrtáky máme profi brúsku, kde si brúsime tvrdokovy a to je celkom iné nabrúsenie vrtáku.
Ale možno nerobíte do ocele 19-ky, lebo tam obyčajný vrták je akurát na vyrobenie si prúseru, ked sa trošku zatupí a prikalí dno, ktoré už potom vrtať nejde klasikou ani po nabrúsení
I'm fairly new to CNC, so pardon my ignorance in asking this question: Why do a third setup? Was it to increase the stability of the workpiece during the final operation?
Yes, also for stability. But also to get deeper through the cutter. With the second clamping, it would not be possible to go deeper with the cutter.
@@CncFrezar Thanks for the reply! But why is depth a factor here? The cutter never went through the bottom of the piece. Again, pardon my ignorance. :)
@@jasonbourne4865 I think the bro might mean the cuts in general he was able to get deeper and harder during the rough because the final set up was alot more rigid than that of the provious op which more for finishing the sides of the part
@@krispyduck7592 Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the reply! :)
Harika iş ama zaman çok sürmüş türkiyede 22 saat çok uzun bir süre iyi bir planlama ve cam ile çok daha kısa bir sürede bitirilebilir delikleri 120H7 bara ile işlenebilir ve delikler u drill ile delinebilir etrafı 32 freze ile mastercam dynamic optirough olarak işlenebilirdi 22 saat çok uzun bir süre yine de güzel iş
Great looking part! What was the tightest tolerance you were dealing with and what was the actual machining/run time?
Hi. The holes were 120H7. The whole part lasted about 22 hours
@@CncFrezar couldn't you use a reamer for the 120 H7 holes? Does it even exist of that size?
@@abugohan I don't know if it exists. I could still use the boring head.
Hay bapak full proses untuk yang tolling 35 habis berapa insert bapak, mohon dijawab trimakasih
yes!
kullandığın cam proğramı nedir bana kalırsa uzun sürdü daha kısa zamanda yapabilirdin ...
Cimatron 15. I make the best I know.
Sir I can do this job in 1 setting and can do the programming also
Have any vacancies there ?
Hezká práce 🙂, jen bych si dával trošku pozor na to, co do videa dát nebo ne. Například manipulace břemena ve výši hlavy bez přileb by mohla pro zaměstnavatele do budoucna představovat problém a konec tohoto kanálu a to by byla škoda.
Dík. Budem sa snažiť.
Jen dotaz proč to nehrubujete větším nástrojem d-63 třeba méně dráh?
Správny dotaz. Máme 62 hrubovaciu frézu tá by sa dokázala dostať do hĺbky asi 100mm. Ale keďže som to upínal do jedného zveráku a držalo to v strede za dosť malú časť tak pri frézovaní tých krajov by to strašne stŕpalo a poškodilo by to minimálne nástroj. Už takto to bolo na hrane.Je lepšie použiť menšiu frézu pri chvení.
I want to know why you turn the part 2 times why you didn't complete the first side to the final dimension are you abble to keep concentricity and squareness between your 2 first holes and the face of your part
I did part that look like yours and doing the same way you did end up with .0007 off betwwen the paralelisme of the hole and had only
.0005 tolerance
Tá rohovka na boky je na antivibračnom trni?Od koho používate ?
Áno. Je to tvrdokovová tyč dokáže ísť vedla kolmej steny do hĺbky 190mm (Pokolm)
How long did it take you to finish the part?
about 20 hours
Деталь выточил - ипотеку закрыл 😉
😂😂🤣😂😂
А если запорол деталь, то плюс ещё одна ипотека на маленькую студиию
Can you teach cimatron e15 software...
In the future, I will definitely make a video in Cimatron
To bych udělal ve svěráku fortunkou taky!!!
😀
Ahoj, proč si to dělal na 3 upnutí? Nešla by ta 2. strana uponout rovnou do 2 svěráků podelně a udělat komplet spodek?
Teoreticky by to šlo na 2x ale iba keby som to tretie upnutie nerobil. Musel som to tretie upnutie dať do 2 zverákov lebo mi to držalo ako na stračej nôžke. Takže pri tom druhom upnutí som urobil komplet boky vo zverákoch by som tie boky na hotovo nedorobil.
I find it very hard to believe that those insert cutters machined this faster than an end-mill would have. Do you have any comparisons?
3:14 coling collet chuck ?? why not dril :)
Teach the computer beside making the piece learn to clean up after itself and you could possibly eliminate another human at that shop. Machine vs. human is a no brainer for quality.
what is the price for this part's manucfacturing. let's compare all around the world. in Turkey I would machine it around 600 - 700 euros + metal block.
In Slovakia, about the same
In Germany, depending on the region, for 22 hours 1400-2200 Euro for Labor.
Its okay you have this heavy/costly CNC 3 axis milling machine but casting it may have saved time and metal
How many lines in program ?
To ti neviem povedať. Najviac bolo hrubovanie možno okolo 80 tis riadkov.
A masina neutahne zavity, ci len strach zo zlomenia a istota na rucnej ?
Zvládne závity bez problémov ale vieš keď on má vedľa seba iskričku...🙂
Crak! 😂😂
zdar nebylo by lepsi koupit vypalek nez frezovat tolik matrosu ?. Dneska slo cerny hrozne nahoru. Jinak libi se me strategie. A otazka co to je za celni frezu? .A co pouzivas za prodlouzeni, ? . Je to celkem tichy. My pouzivame WALTER komplety a nekdy to pekne drnci . a to mame i mozna mensi reznou nez ty. ! Palec Hore at se praca vydari a vali to jak má !
S tým výpalkom by to bolo podľa mňa skôr. Ale som len robotník šéf to má na starosti. Všetky nástroje som popísal vo videu od koho sú. Používame všetky karbidové predĺženia od Pokolmu. Tento konkrétne je dlhý aj s frézou 190mm. Čiže 32jka fréza vedľa kolmej steny dôjde do hĺbky 190mm.
@@CncFrezar no tak proto si to je to sepot kvetin, tvrdokovovy prodlouzeni antivibracni, my to mame vsechno z klasiky nastrojovky modulovy nastavce od walteru . Ono s tim vypalkem je to nekdy tezky resit, sice bys mel strojni cas, ale urcite bys upalil vice platku, pac ty kraje byvaji tvrdy podle toho jakej matros obrabis. Ale myslim si , ze v tomhle pripade by to byla uspora tak jako tak . Jinak nastroje si popsal to vim , ze to je 63 spis by me zajimala znacka nastroje. no :) Jo ted jsem si toho teprve na podruhe vsiml. PALBIT platky takze predpokladam ze i drzak je stejne znacky .
Áno je to Palbit. Často ju používame. Určite sú aj lepšie frézy ale nám stačí lebo robíme väčšinou nástrojárske práce žiadnu sériovku.
How much does that machine center cost?
I can't say that, I'm just a worker. About 250,000€
Why you use so many setups? On the first, mill the profiles, tap holes; on the second you can just mill excessive metal and the work is done 🤔
Looked like only two setups to me.. and tapping offline maybe because the machine didn’t have the capability
@@BillJonesiii exactly, that’s what I’m telling about. In that case, this scenario possible if some amount of excessive material not available 🙂 And last, but not least, there’s still an artist which made another one masterpiece from the blank
What's the price for the finished part?
I don't know, I'm just a worker
What's size of holes? Thanks
120H7
@@CncFrezar H7 in one pass?
@@snejku for twice
@@CncFrezar good job
👨🔧👏👏👏🛠👍
why not using a plate for the process
lamun kitu gawe dua kali
or jig
hello sir
prečo nezávitujete priamo na mašine?
Lebo má nástrojár vedla seba iskričku..😀
Is this machine slow af? Or is the part massive?
Compared to smaller cnc machines it is very slow.
@@CncFrezar What machine is it? Manufacturer and model? Or what's the max feeds and RPM?
@@geoffdl03 UCHINE UDM-2216 Max feed 5000mm/min RPM 8000
Always (always) do holes and threads before other time consuming/costly features in large parts, guys. Good job otherwise!
Barso dobsa
C'mon guys. You know better. Safety glasses please.
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Con I help me
Rz = 5.000
ach jaj znova ten palbit, normálne mám averziu na to
Veď je tam aj Pramet tak klídek. Ale zase palbit je palbit.
Ok. did I just see at the beginning. A guy power taping without wearing safety glasses.
Punch out and go home.
OK Bye
this method take too much time
This method brings economy to the process. You can mill holes in different sizes. And you don’t need to buy boring bars and holders since it’s just one part job
No good, to slow..
well thank you
говно! ни какой инженерной мысли и работы рук!
I get anti-seize on me just watching this lol 😂