My question is; why did the old man had a hiker on the second floor and locked him with three plants? Was the hiker ok? Was he forced to be locked up there? Is the hiker a criminal? Or is the old man a criminal? Why old man WHY
it has probably to do with an unsolved murder case in japan that a developer picked up in the news where 3 potplants are to be seen in the evidence photographs
When I was a kid I spent hours searching for an answer as to what was behind those plants and I even tried for hours over probably a year on and off to glitch myself through the wall and I even tried to use every item on the trees to try get through the door; think of the Eric Andre "LET ME IN!!!" meme that was me. I was convinced that Game Freak designed that house in such a way it was possible to access the stairs through an intentional glitch and that they'd be a Easter egg or a mythical Pokemon or something behind those trees and I'd be the only kid in the world to find it. Keep in mind this was the mid 2000s and games were full of Easter Eggs, cheat codes, and secrets for Gamers™ to uncover so you can't blame me for thinking it was a secret the player was meant to discover somehow. Honestly now I know that there was something behind those trees despite not thinking about this for over 15 years I still feel a sense of cathartic relief honestly. Thanks for making this video, I never knew all these years later I needed.
Same here my friend. Can't believe how old we've become. I had Ruby version. It was my very first game I ever had, on an original GBA. I too spent many hours trying to find a way through. My grandfather bought it for me that day then took me out to eat. He's dead now, it's been 14 years, but I still think about it often. One of my best memories I have with him.
That's really sweet ❤️ I remember seeing pokemon Emerald advertised in a magazine and I never had seen rayquaza before it was an insane moment seeing a brand new legendary for the first time (we didn't have Internet back then so I got all my news from magazines) I remember begging my mum to buy me pokemon Emerald the day it came out even though we was really poor I didn't really understand at the time but she got it for me in secret despite not really been able to afford it but I found it by mistake. It was one of the best days ever, I ended up playing it day and night and using all my pocket money to buy batteries for my gba so I could keep playing. I still remember each and every section of that game and where I was and what I was doing to this day. This is why I love video games they hold so many memories and everyone has their own little stories to tell for each and everyone
when I was young I bought an action replay at a flea market that had poorly drawn fakemon on the casing. But it promised "GAME BREAKING ADVANTAGES-INFINITE POSSIBILITIES-CHEATS+CODES FOR 100+ DS titles." So with my birthday money I opted for it instead of a new game and went straight to work on my Pokémon diamond. And I kid you not after messing with the wall through walls I ended up finding Shaymin after what seemed like endless minutes walking through flower pallets. I had a whole like Pokémon diamond and pearl guide too that didn't have shaymin in it so I thought I struck gold. Haha.
emerald was full of mysteries and hidden places so I don't fault you for thinking there was something there. I honestly love how challenging some of the puzzles are for emerald, I just wish it was more polished
This is known as the Masuda room as it was originally intended to host a battle with a team from Junichi Masuda via the E Card. This however never happened and the e cards we got all were stuff for the battle tower instead
The way this person just totally skips over the dialogue of the old man as though that's not the most important interesting part about this is just mindboggling. That's extremely exciting that the old man has more dialogue after the battle and precisely the kind of thing i came to this video for
Someone actually posted a comment containing proper translations for the dialogue and even alternate dialogue in case you lost or tied the battle. No idea how you'd go about finding that comment, but if you really want to know, it's in here somewhere.
This video is equal parts fascinating and infuriating as the creator makes all these weird decisions lol. Like insisting on using the German version (but searching in English for gameshark codes and, predictably, finding English version codes), the weirdly long efforts at the beginning to reach the house, and then as you mention downplaying the old man's dialogue. Though, I *am* really impressed that the machine translator actually came up with a workable translation of the old man's dialogue, since he's talking in some weird old man type dialect in Japanese
You didn't need to translate the Japanese text. The English version has that script implemented too and you could have checked it using the rom on Advance map (0x2279B7 is the address). It goes like this: - If you win, he will say: "That was superlative! Why, it was like seeing myself in my youth again!"; - If you draw, he will say: "So, it became a standoff. It was a brilliant match in which neither side conceded a step!"; - If you lose, he will say: "Ah, too bad for you! But it was a good match. I hope you can win next time." Hope this helps, even 4 years later.
In case you were curious, the hiker text just identifies the hiker as a mountain man with no name attached (that's just what the class is called in Japanese, the Lass class is actually called Miniskirt in Japanese so that's pretty normal). Everything else is just standard battle fare. Also if you want a more stylized version of what the old guy said, "Well done! Watching that reminded me of when I was young! I was also a Pokemon trainer back in the day."
Yeah, it was definitely for e-reader functionality. There's an almost identical location in Ruby and Sapphire that uses the e-reader cards for fixed trainer battles. That was actually how I first found out that the data for a lot of the previous generation's Pokemon were coded in the game.
@@dhruvgandhi4333 This was before FRLG came out and it was uncertain whether all the old Pokemon would be brought back. It wasn't possible to trade between the old games and R/S at that time.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I seriously thought I was insane for remembering a random unreachable door in my favorite Pokemon game! 15 years of anxiety relieved! You're awesome!
@@TripleG333 Why would literally anyone plagiarize a comment? Clearly we had a similar experience... I don't even remember seeing your comment. I watched the video and just typed cuz I was excited.. lol
Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green also had a similar staircase on island seven of the Sevii islands but this one was blocked by boxes, and the old lady in that house also told similar tales like the old man in Emerald.
The best explanation video i have seen on youtube period. Straight to the point with no fluff and explaining the process along the way. No yelling, bad attempts at comedy, or needlessly long asides. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
I really liked (and still like) Sootopolis when I played it back in the day. In fact I really liked the dive mechanic, one of the many failures with SM and SwSh was how small and boring the maps were. Seriously there was nowhere to go, sure they look pretty but nowhere to explore, nothing to find.
People complained that the gen 3 map was too much water, but dive made it fun. There was so many places to dive, and it made you feel like you might find a secret. What if there is a patch of seaweed with a rare pokemon? What rare items might be down in this hole? We know now all of the locations and pokemon, but as a kid in 2003, it was very exciting to explore when it was all still mysterious to you.
@@hisaceinthehole3426 okay but this is about a blocked off staircase in Pokemon Emerald if you want to do video game criticism take it to Twitter or image boards not unrelated TH-cam videos
4:21 Honestly...that makes the situation make much more sense. It explains why the dialogue is just question marks; the player is confused on why an old man is keeping a singular rock locked up in his basement, surrounded by four plants.
So they went through the trouble of placing trees after the e-reader was discontinued. That still doesn’t explain why they didn’t just remove the staircase.
nah, the trees were also there in the japanese version when the e-reader still was a thing. My guess is, that the e-reader would've activated an event that removed the trees, probably after talking to the old man with the card active. Localization removing the trees wouldn't make sense either, since they probably just edit text without checking the maps. Plus, even if they checked the maps, a blocked off staircase wouldn't be something they'd bother with.
@@mmmmmmmtoast I just thought it would be funny to use a german word here since they're german or at least played the german version of the game before which suggests that they speak/understand german haha it would literally translate to "schoolyard myths", essentially myths that were made up by friends during my elementary school years.
I remember using walk thru walls cheat to try to go inside. Since it doesn't work, I just assume it's just a pointless thing developer put. Thanks for providing more info about this.
@@guandasin3099 it's pretty cool! The TCG gives you some wacky minigames if you have the right cards and the trainercards let you fight amazing trainers with shiny pokemon and legendaries in the basement of that guy's house in Mosdeep City! I also mamaged to get an eon ticket ecard to do the southern island event.
Well, depending on the card you slash on the E-Reader, you get different battles. Since the function was Japan only in Emerald, then the Japan community must know.
That Hiker Npc was actually the old man's ditto who never forgave him for growing old and giving up the journey. So the ditto kept thinking about the old times so much that he transformed into the image permanently. It only changed into a rock when it needed to p00p. It held it in for so long it became rock. The old man just didn't want to deal with it. As usual the player the hero saves the day
The old man blocked the door because on the second floor, he hid a memory of himself from long ago. See, he used to be a Mountain Hiker when he was younger, but due to a tragic incident, he was involved in an accident that had him stuck under rocks for months. When he was finally rescued, he gave up being a Pokemon trainer and a mountain man. But that room remained, because in it he hid the dear memories of his younger self. That's why he says "You did it" and "It was like looking at my younger self again" after you defeat the man on the second floor.
People forgot about the eReader cards. Used to buy em from ice cream trucks in middle school. I used it on my Sapphire in Mossdeep and got a bunch of special battles. By the time Emerald came out in the US we were used to the wireless connector and the eReader was gone
Mixeli has already shown what is inside that room. The japanese version of the game had a functionality to summon super bosses battles against boss trainers only accessible via e-reader cards.
imagine your a real life NPC, locked in a room blocked by three trees at the exit. To live out eternity waiting for the player but never shows. There is a hell for NPCs and that is never being discovered and forgotten. Being of absolute isolation. Only to be freed many centures of gameplay later. This type of discovery would pave the way for the NPC with a life long journey of a fixated life fulfilled.
This is _fascinating._ I remember this blocked staircase very clearly. There's so many cases like that throughout the history of Pokemon! It's incredible that you went so far as to load the data of the game to see what the human eye cannot. The fact that you thought of testing all versions is praiseworthy too! I know I would have stopped at finding the guy upstairs.
This was really cool, thanks for doing all the legwork. As a kid I always tried walking through walls to try and get to the door but you showed the map editor and I was like wow that makes sense as to why the door doesn't let you in.
Finally, ever since I discovered this hidden entrance in Pokémon Emerald over a decade ago I always asked myself what they wanted to hide. First I thought it was only accessible after the Elite Four and defeating the Champion, well, when that didn't happen I was disappointed. Then I went to the Hoenn Battle Frontier and forgot about it for a while, because the Battle Factory was epic and I spent like most of the time there because I could temporarily own Pokémon I wasn't able to catch. Thank you for solving it! :3
It's unfortunate that TH-cam recommended this because it seems like it's the only video of its kind for this channel I'd subscribe if you did more of this content as you have a pretty good voice for it, and the deep diving you did for the answer was awesome
Very interesting exploration!!! Thank you! I love seeing easily forgotten or unnoticed mysteries in games tested out or explored more especially because things like this make the imagination run wild and we all know how much mystery and wonder a simple glitch or seemingly unfinished area can provide if we've played Gen1
Watching you get to Sootopolis was hilarious because the whole time I was thinking "He could have just edited any warp point in Littleroot with Advanced Map to get him there." And then you casually pull up Advance Map and start editing shit lol
The old man says that you were amazing and you remind him of his youth. This event is clearly like some sort of battle tent/battle tower type of set battle that wasn't programmed fully into the game.
Here’s a thought. The stairs are a time machine. The man you battle once you go down the stairs is the old man, but younger. The reason his Pokémon are unknown question marks is because they are older than the Pokédex
I live in the US and I had an e-reader as a kid. It worked with some Pokemon Trading cards and a few other Nintendo cards. I always wondered why there wasn't more I could with it -- I guess being discontinued would explain it!
I think the bigger mystery is: HoW DiD I NoT kNoW tHiS eXsIsTEd?! O.O (the e-reader and cards) (although I was totally oblivious to this door too) (abut too be fair I didn't spend much time in this city, since it was late game, most of my hours were spent everywhere else getting here laboriously)
I swear RSE games have so much stuff that are way too complicated for the common kid to discover without internet and with most of them being pointless or not very rewarding too like 😭 from the regi trio puzzles, mirage island, this, and even the very obscure items for the secret bases that most fans don't even know about One of the reasons why these games are the goat
It reminds me that one house in the sevii Islands excpet the entrance was covered with boxes, As I can remember it was located on the seventh island which the npc was probably an old lady or guy.
It was a old lady. The staircase had probably the same functionalitys as the one in emerald, but since the one in emerald was cut, the one in pokémon fr/lg was cut too
Man I am 35 and pokemon magic the gathering and gaming on PC on D2 swg wow and cs2 skateboarding Dailey was life. Rofl I had a fun start at life and it makes me feel so good watching these kinda videos.
Same as mine.my childhood was answered! :D long ago there wasnt a video like this during that time i was finding the answer. Now it makes clear why there are chances we encounter "?"pokemon is bcos of that door. thanks mate :)
The (?) Pokémon is Gen. 3 Missingno, known as 'Dekamark'. As for the E-reader functionality, there's patches (I believe they still exist) for international releases, I'm not quite sure how well they work.
So wait, were these trainer battle cards ever actually released in Japan? Is this actually fully functional in the Japanese version if you had an e-reader with one of these cards or was it already scrapped by release? If it was functional I'd be curious how the actual event plays out normally; how/when do the trees move, does the old man have dialogue before you enter the basement, does the trainer have dialogue, does its sprite change?
It's fully functional and is the exact same as the Mosdeep e-reader house in Ruby & Sapphire which supported both Japanese and North American e-battle and item cards.
i once actually ran into that question mark pokemon in the wild. I tried to catch it but the whole game just crashed. Definitely cool seeing it in a battle here
Reminds me of the old lady in Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green in Sevii Islands who has boxes blocking the stairs in her house! Thanks for clarifying :D (the results of battling her are the same, with generic dialogue of her reminiscing about being a pokemon trainer when she was younger. if you manage to use warp codes or walk through walls, you get in a trainer battle with Archie, the leader of Team Aqua, who sends out a shiny question mark in battle. Which is strange, instead of a generic trainer, why is it Archie? Maybe a special event was planned with the e reader and then scrapped.)
FR and LG is built with the same engine as RS so all the trainer sprites are left in the code just dummied out. The Archie trainer data is near the beginning.
Just like the blocked staircase in New Mauville. I wonder if it was used to hold a Victini event (Like Liberty Garden from Pokemon BW/BW2) but was scrapped due to time restraints?
Clicked on this five year old video because I had no idea what staircase this was taking about. As soon as I saw the house though I instantly remembered.
There's a blocked staircase in FRLG aswell! On one of the Sevii Islands. Has there been any discoverings on that? I haven't seen it in a long time but I believe it was near the pokecenter on the vertical island with rich NPCs you can farm with the VS Seeker to the south.
It was for wireless play with 2 people. I believe a pokemon jump rope minigame and another minigame where you catch falling berries with Dodrio's mouth.
Never even played any pokemon after second gen, but I still had to click this. Also somehow knew you'd point out that you played the german version of the game, cause my own german brain was like "this dude be talkin hella familiar bruh.". I don't really know as to why I am here, but I am glad to be here.
This reminds me of when I was a kid, my friend told me you could crawl back out through the vents on The Library and get a secret ending in Halo: CE Anniversary. I spend literal days trying to get up there, and checked every damn vent on the first and second levels. Nothing. Nothing but disappointment, that is…
Removing the plant sprites wasn’t necessary as long as you changed their collision boxes (you’d simply walk through them and into the staircase). I wonder, had you left the sprites alone, would they still be gone after completing the battle & exiting? I’m sure they would in order to make room for the old man. Still interesting though.
The hiker transforming into an actual boulder has gotta be the most literal example of character development I've ever seen lol
My question is; why did the old man had a hiker on the second floor and locked him with three plants? Was the hiker ok? Was he forced to be locked up there? Is the hiker a criminal? Or is the old man a criminal? Why old man WHY
Well, that suddenly turned real dark.
The old man is Ash and the Hiker was Brock
it has probably to do with an unsolved murder case in japan that a developer picked up in the news where 3 potplants are to be seen in the evidence photographs
I think it's supposed to be the old man from when he was younger?
I love the young people
When I was a kid I spent hours searching for an answer as to what was behind those plants and I even tried for hours over probably a year on and off to glitch myself through the wall and I even tried to use every item on the trees to try get through the door; think of the Eric Andre "LET ME IN!!!" meme that was me.
I was convinced that Game Freak designed that house in such a way it was possible to access the stairs through an intentional glitch and that they'd be a Easter egg or a mythical Pokemon or something behind those trees and I'd be the only kid in the world to find it.
Keep in mind this was the mid 2000s and games were full of Easter Eggs, cheat codes, and secrets for Gamers™ to uncover so you can't blame me for thinking it was a secret the player was meant to discover somehow.
Honestly now I know that there was something behind those trees despite not thinking about this for over 15 years I still feel a sense of cathartic relief honestly.
Thanks for making this video, I never knew all these years later I needed.
Same here my friend. Can't believe how old we've become. I had Ruby version. It was my very first game I ever had, on an original GBA. I too spent many hours trying to find a way through. My grandfather bought it for me that day then took me out to eat. He's dead now, it's been 14 years, but I still think about it often. One of my best memories I have with him.
That's really sweet ❤️
I remember seeing pokemon Emerald advertised in a magazine and I never had seen rayquaza before it was an insane moment seeing a brand new legendary for the first time (we didn't have Internet back then so I got all my news from magazines)
I remember begging my mum to buy me pokemon Emerald the day it came out even though we was really poor I didn't really understand at the time but she got it for me in secret despite not really been able to afford it but I found it by mistake.
It was one of the best days ever, I ended up playing it day and night and using all my pocket money to buy batteries for my gba so I could keep playing.
I still remember each and every section of that game and where I was and what I was doing to this day.
This is why I love video games they hold so many memories and everyone has their own little stories to tell for each and everyone
when I was young I bought an action replay at a flea market that had poorly drawn fakemon on the casing.
But it promised "GAME BREAKING ADVANTAGES-INFINITE POSSIBILITIES-CHEATS+CODES FOR 100+ DS titles."
So with my birthday money I opted for it instead of a new game and went straight to work on my Pokémon diamond. And I kid you not after messing with the wall through walls I ended up finding Shaymin after what seemed like endless minutes walking through flower pallets. I had a whole like Pokémon diamond and pearl guide too that didn't have shaymin in it so I thought I struck gold. Haha.
emerald was full of mysteries and hidden places so I don't fault you for thinking there was something there. I honestly love how challenging some of the puzzles are for emerald, I just wish it was more polished
Kids will never understand that this man just solved one of the biggest mysteries in Pokémon
someone still watches dis omg
@@ameytipre9699 what’s wrong with you lol
There's a crazier mystery to come
Wasn't there one in firered too?
when i think about pokemon mystery, i always think about this
10 years of anxiety and trying to sleep at night have finally been solved. Thank you 🙏
Edit: Year later and I can confirm I sleep better.
I know the feeling 😁😁
Cool 😁
How is it 3 years later bro
@@SwoleHobo a past memory now, the things you learn as you get older lol
Lol
This is known as the Masuda room as it was originally intended to host a battle with a team from Junichi Masuda via the E Card. This however never happened and the e cards we got all were stuff for the battle tower instead
Can you link me to the event
Now it is known as the medusa room
@@fadinglight7103 I want to see the battle and if there's any rewards
@@fadinglight7103 Ah because the hiker turned to stone, I get it
Did this actually come out in Japan?
I like how the way they patched up this room makes it look as if the old man was desperately containing an eldritch being within his basement
"This is the gateway to the unknown and unknowable. Fortunately I have succulents in the way"
@@RAFMnBgaming And an invisible spell that repels deviants from getting in, along with a door that was floating in the air just to be safe.
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The hiker so confused that he turned to rock
Lol 🤣
"reject humanity, return to rock"
Since I'm a Dragon Tamer, I'd love my outcome.
"although he wished for death,he was unable to die.
And so Hiker stop thinking"
"Yo angelo"
The way this person just totally skips over the dialogue of the old man as though that's not the most important interesting part about this is just mindboggling. That's extremely exciting that the old man has more dialogue after the battle and precisely the kind of thing i came to this video for
FACTS like that’s so interesting because that means it’s a small part of the game most of us never experienced ever
Someone actually posted a comment containing proper translations for the dialogue and even alternate dialogue in case you lost or tied the battle. No idea how you'd go about finding that comment, but if you really want to know, it's in here somewhere.
@@RFX01 well if u see it and can pin it that would be appreciated!
@@RFX01 you could’ve pinned that :(
This video is equal parts fascinating and infuriating as the creator makes all these weird decisions lol. Like insisting on using the German version (but searching in English for gameshark codes and, predictably, finding English version codes), the weirdly long efforts at the beginning to reach the house, and then as you mention downplaying the old man's dialogue.
Though, I *am* really impressed that the machine translator actually came up with a workable translation of the old man's dialogue, since he's talking in some weird old man type dialect in Japanese
You didn't need to translate the Japanese text. The English version has that script implemented too and you could have checked it using the rom on Advance map (0x2279B7 is the address). It goes like this:
- If you win, he will say: "That was superlative! Why, it was like seeing myself in my youth again!";
- If you draw, he will say: "So, it became a standoff. It was a brilliant match in which neither side conceded a step!";
- If you lose, he will say: "Ah, too bad for you! But it was a good match. I hope you can win next time."
Hope this helps, even 4 years later.
Ty
This guy is unsarcastically fun at parties
Thanks for posting this. I can tell you’re very smart. I wanted to see the text so thanks for posting
@@louisroth5941 No problem mate, I am glad I could help.
@@Faria88 Maybe a dumb question but how do you draw in a pokemon game?
Omg ty for not trolling us!! You are legit bro, thx!
He got a new sub
ah, 15 years of my heart's riddle have been solved. God bless you my friend.
In case you were curious, the hiker text just identifies the hiker as a mountain man with no name attached (that's just what the class is called in Japanese, the Lass class is actually called Miniskirt in Japanese so that's pretty normal). Everything else is just standard battle fare.
Also if you want a more stylized version of what the old guy said, "Well done! Watching that reminded me of when I was young! I was also a Pokemon trainer back in the day."
Why the legit ones is always underrated?
You gave me a sense of peace I had no idea I needed. Childhood mystery solved.
Yeah, it was definitely for e-reader functionality. There's an almost identical location in Ruby and Sapphire that uses the e-reader cards for fixed trainer battles. That was actually how I first found out that the data for a lot of the previous generation's Pokemon were coded in the game.
Same with FireRed and LeafGreen
That room in Mosdeep was turned into the wireless minigame house from FRLG, hence why the e-reader room was moved.
National dex exists, so all the previous gens would be coded in anyway, correct?
@@dhruvgandhi4333 This was before FRLG came out and it was uncertain whether all the old Pokemon would be brought back. It wasn't possible to trade between the old games and R/S at that time.
the first dexit
The "hidden" staircase is for the E-Reader peripheral that sold poorly in the U.S. and thus that door went unused with exeption of Ruby and Sapphire
Yes, I mentioned a good chunk of that in the video. Pretty sure the door was in a different city for Ruby and Sapphire though.
Ye, someone explained that on a video
how would it be used?
@@music79075 it was used for trainer battles using the Battle e cards
@@retrorewind6042 were those e-reader cards ever archived?
finally i got a good answer
holy shit thanks dude
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I seriously thought I was insane for remembering a random unreachable door in my favorite Pokemon game! 15 years of anxiety relieved! You're awesome!
Nice copy of the 3yr old comment above. 1 yr before yours. Pfft. Media attention seekers
@@TripleG333 dude why are you replying to a comment from 2 years ago
@@meltedelevator lol
@@meltedelevator for plagiarizing
@@TripleG333 Why would literally anyone plagiarize a comment? Clearly we had a similar experience... I don't even remember seeing your comment. I watched the video and just typed cuz I was excited.. lol
biggest mystery of my childhood solved! good video thank you :D
Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green also had a similar staircase on island seven of the Sevii islands but this one was blocked by boxes, and the old lady in that house also told similar tales like the old man in Emerald.
I was just thinking that I thought there was something similar in FR and LG
The best explanation video i have seen on youtube period. Straight to the point with no fluff and explaining the process along the way. No yelling, bad attempts at comedy, or needlessly long asides. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
I really liked (and still like) Sootopolis when I played it back in the day. In fact I really liked the dive mechanic, one of the many failures with SM and SwSh was how small and boring the maps were. Seriously there was nowhere to go, sure they look pretty but nowhere to explore, nothing to find.
People complained that the gen 3 map was too much water, but dive made it fun. There was so many places to dive, and it made you feel like you might find a secret. What if there is a patch of seaweed with a rare pokemon? What rare items might be down in this hole? We know now all of the locations and pokemon, but as a kid in 2003, it was very exciting to explore when it was all still mysterious to you.
Fam this is a video about a staircase in Pokemon Emerald no need to dog on modern Pokemon
@@hisaceinthehole3426 okay but this is about a blocked off staircase in Pokemon Emerald if you want to do video game criticism take it to Twitter or image boards not unrelated TH-cam videos
4:21
Honestly...that makes the situation make much more sense. It explains why the dialogue is just question marks; the player is confused on why an old man is keeping a singular rock locked up in his basement, surrounded by four plants.
3 plants..
@@skeeplebop 4
So they went through the trouble of placing trees after the e-reader was discontinued. That still doesn’t explain why they didn’t just remove the staircase.
nah, the trees were also there in the japanese version when the e-reader still was a thing.
My guess is, that the e-reader would've activated an event that removed the trees, probably after talking to the old man with the card active.
Localization removing the trees wouldn't make sense either, since they probably just edit text without checking the maps.
Plus, even if they checked the maps, a blocked off staircase wouldn't be something they'd bother with.
There's a more mysterious tree
“I accidentally turned the NPC into a rock.” If you play D&D, notify your DM that this is a phrase that exists. But give no context
Yeah thanks i know. He is got nerves of steel
You wouldn’t believe the amount of “Schulhof-Mythen” surrounding this specific staircase that existed back in the day among my friends.
I love that old stuff from Pokémon. You'd create a whole lore just for some blocked path, or something on the corner of the map.
What is Schulhof-Mythen?
Nvm i got it lmao
@@mmmmmmmtoast I just thought it would be funny to use a german word here since they're german or at least played the german version of the game before which suggests that they speak/understand german haha it would literally translate to "schoolyard myths", essentially myths that were made up by friends during my elementary school years.
@@voidhug yeah my brain just thought it was like Meyers-Briggs or one of those phenomena named after two people lol
You accidentally turn the hiker into a Rock
Yeah thanks i know. He's got nerves of steel.
God the struggling with cheats to find a roundabout solution to an initially simple problem was so goddamn relatable
I remember using walk thru walls cheat to try to go inside. Since it doesn't work, I just assume it's just a pointless thing developer put. Thanks for providing more info about this.
Would love to see the actual e-reader fight you get to do. But I guess that's probably lost to history
Japanese version apparently, the data is gone so it crashes
You can actually find some
I have an e-reader and a bunch of e-cards I can use for battles in Mossdeep in Ruby and Sapphie
@@theindiefanclub awesome! How is it like?
@@guandasin3099 it's pretty cool! The TCG gives you some wacky minigames if you have the right cards and the trainercards let you fight amazing trainers with shiny pokemon and legendaries in the basement of that guy's house in Mosdeep City! I also mamaged to get an eon ticket ecard to do the southern island event.
Not only was a hiker trapped in there, he also had a shiny Missingno.
This is genuinely interesting, would’ve loved to know what the actual battle was supposed to be, but the world shall never know
Well, depending on the card you slash on the E-Reader, you get different battles.
Since the function was Japan only in Emerald, then the Japan community must know.
You could just search up a video of someone playing the Japanese version. There may also be a romhack somewhere that enables it
That Hiker Npc was actually the old man's ditto who never forgave him for growing old and giving up the journey. So the ditto kept thinking about the old times so much that he transformed into the image permanently.
It only changed into a rock when it needed to p00p. It held it in for so long it became rock.
The old man just didn't want to deal with it. As usual the player the hero saves the day
The old man blocked the door because on the second floor, he hid a memory of himself from long ago. See, he used to be a Mountain Hiker when he was younger, but due to a tragic incident, he was involved in an accident that had him stuck under rocks for months. When he was finally rescued, he gave up being a Pokemon trainer and a mountain man.
But that room remained, because in it he hid the dear memories of his younger self.
That's why he says "You did it" and "It was like looking at my younger self again" after you defeat the man on the second floor.
Actual canon or own interpretation?
@@wutzgedudel Source: He made it up
I'm getting real Tom Riddle Diary vibes from this. Was Lord Voldemort actually a pokemon trainer?
Source: I made it the fuck up
that also explains why the hiker turned into a rock, as it was another memory he had
5:06 "The battle isnt very exciting"
Opponent proceeds to throw out a shiny question mark
Level 0, on top of that!
Thanks for not trolling us. This video was quite educational and enjoyable ❤
Thx for telling us I was always Triggered when i saw it
People forgot about the eReader cards. Used to buy em from ice cream trucks in middle school. I used it on my Sapphire in Mossdeep and got a bunch of special battles. By the time Emerald came out in the US we were used to the wireless connector and the eReader was gone
Very interesting. I was always casually interested in this as a kid. Thanks so much!
Mixeli has already shown what is inside that room. The japanese version of the game had a functionality to summon super bosses battles against boss trainers only accessible via e-reader cards.
This video is 4 years old man
@@formerlypie8781 no problem, bro.
I'm from Australia, I had an E-Reader and the cards and the battles worked perfectly! Great video too!
Were the battles infinitely repeatable? Just curious.
@ciarraRizzuto9 it was a long time ago so my memory is fuzzy, but I'm almost certain they were!
Well, this kinda looks like one of the cases where someone locks you in a small area for your whole life and the kid goes clinically insane
imagine your a real life NPC, locked in a room blocked by three trees at the exit. To live out eternity waiting for the player but never shows. There is a hell for NPCs and that is never being discovered and forgotten. Being of absolute isolation. Only to be freed many centures of gameplay later. This type of discovery would pave the way for the NPC with a life long journey of a fixated life fulfilled.
This is _fascinating._ I remember this blocked staircase very clearly. There's so many cases like that throughout the history of Pokemon! It's incredible that you went so far as to load the data of the game to see what the human eye cannot. The fact that you thought of testing all versions is praiseworthy too! I know I would have stopped at finding the guy upstairs.
so interesting that the shiny version of the question mark pokemon came out, first time i see it
They even gave it a rolling animation
I've always wondered what those stairs did as a kid and now in 2022 after this amazing video was on my recommended page I finally know !
This was really cool, thanks for doing all the legwork. As a kid I always tried walking through walls to try and get to the door but you showed the map editor and I was like wow that makes sense as to why the door doesn't let you in.
Finally, ever since I discovered this hidden entrance in Pokémon Emerald over a decade ago I always asked myself what they wanted to hide.
First I thought it was only accessible after the Elite Four and defeating the Champion, well, when that didn't happen I was disappointed.
Then I went to the Hoenn Battle Frontier and forgot about it for a while, because the Battle Factory was epic and I spent like most of the time there because I could temporarily own Pokémon I wasn't able to catch. Thank you for solving it! :3
It's unfortunate that TH-cam recommended this because it seems like it's the only video of its kind for this channel
I'd subscribe if you did more of this content as you have a pretty good voice for it, and the deep diving you did for the answer was awesome
totally agree, guy got some nice voice
@@finhz I agree his voice is very clear and satisfying to listen to. Its also kinda attractive 😳
Very interesting exploration!!! Thank you!
I love seeing easily forgotten or unnoticed mysteries in games tested out or explored more especially because things like this make the imagination run wild and we all know how much mystery and wonder a simple glitch or seemingly unfinished area can provide if we've played Gen1
Watching you get to Sootopolis was hilarious because the whole time I was thinking "He could have just edited any warp point in Littleroot with Advanced Map to get him there." And then you casually pull up Advance Map and start editing shit lol
Better yet, just use Fly...
🤲🏼👑 your crown sir. I had long forgotten this and you’ve settled an ancient grievance. Thank you.
And the hiker turned himself into a rock! The funniest shit I've seen
The old man says that you were amazing and you remind him of his youth. This event is clearly like some sort of battle tent/battle tower type of set battle that wasn't programmed fully into the game.
Here’s a thought. The stairs are a time machine. The man you battle once you go down the stairs is the old man, but younger. The reason his Pokémon are unknown question marks is because they are older than the Pokédex
4:00 he is confused how you got in there so he says ???
No, he said that because he had no data for any dialogue
@@bagelgeuse3079 thank you captain obvious 😜
@@bagelgeuse3079 are you kidding me, how are you gonna respond to an obvious joke with that.
@@toxicpoizon Very late reply but it didn't occur to me back then that it was a joke.
I live in the US and I had an e-reader as a kid. It worked with some Pokemon Trading cards and a few other Nintendo cards. I always wondered why there wasn't more I could with it -- I guess being discontinued would explain it!
I think the bigger mystery is: HoW DiD I NoT kNoW tHiS eXsIsTEd?! O.O (the e-reader and cards) (although I was totally oblivious to this door too) (abut too be fair I didn't spend much time in this city, since it was late game, most of my hours were spent everywhere else getting here laboriously)
Thanks for clearing this up, one of the many long time questions swirling around in my head from childhood finally answered!
There is a door similar to that but with boxes and it is found in pokemon firered and leafgreen in seven island house in near the pier
I swear RSE games have so much stuff that are way too complicated for the common kid to discover without internet and with most of them being pointless or not very rewarding too like 😭 from the regi trio puzzles, mirage island, this, and even the very obscure items for the secret bases that most fans don't even know about
One of the reasons why these games are the goat
Imagine minding your own business and then suddenly turning into a rock
So, in short, it sounds like I would need to scan the e-reader card to have that interaction.
I remember there's also a stair in g/s/c or an elevator in hg/ss when you go inside pokemon tower, there's a guard that blocks the way.
1 mystery from my childhood has been resolved. Thank you for that.
It reminds me that one house in the sevii Islands excpet the entrance was covered with boxes, As I can remember it was located on the seventh island which the npc was probably an old lady or guy.
It was a old lady. The staircase had probably the same functionalitys as the one in emerald, but since the one in emerald was cut, the one in pokémon fr/lg was cut too
yep. it was to also use the E reader as well.
Man I am 35 and pokemon magic the gathering and gaming on PC on D2 swg wow and cs2 skateboarding Dailey was life. Rofl I had a fun start at life and it makes me feel so good watching these kinda videos.
Same as mine.my childhood was answered! :D long ago there wasnt a video like this during that time i was finding the answer. Now it makes clear why there are chances we encounter "?"pokemon is bcos of that door. thanks mate :)
How is there no comment on this mans obscene number of Opera tabs? There must be hundreds and the top of screen taskbar too!
A rock is a hiker?
Seems legit
The (?) Pokémon is Gen. 3 Missingno, known as 'Dekamark'.
As for the E-reader functionality, there's patches (I believe they still exist) for international releases, I'm not quite sure how well they work.
Finally, I can now rest easy after all of that imagination about the staircase back then.
'Aw yeah, perfect intro'
I'm 15 seconds in and I like this guy already
4:23
Alright subbed
It is the same with the old lady's house with blocked boxes in Pokemon Fire Red?
Probably the best Pokemon video I've seen in a while
So wait, were these trainer battle cards ever actually released in Japan? Is this actually fully functional in the Japanese version if you had an e-reader with one of these cards or was it already scrapped by release?
If it was functional I'd be curious how the actual event plays out normally; how/when do the trees move, does the old man have dialogue before you enter the basement, does the trainer have dialogue, does its sprite change?
It's fully functional and is the exact same as the Mosdeep e-reader house in Ruby & Sapphire which supported both Japanese and North American e-battle and item cards.
This staircase and the stop'n swap from banjo Kazooie drove little kid me INSANE!!!
Thanks! I won't think of those stairs every nights!
Maaaan that intro. I remember the excitement I experienced when I played that with like 7 or 8
My child version gamer of me Thanks you , and My grown up developer version of me Respects you .
i once actually ran into that question mark pokemon in the wild. I tried to catch it but the whole game just crashed. Definitely cool seeing it in a battle here
Reminds me of the old lady in Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green in Sevii Islands who has boxes blocking the stairs in her house! Thanks for clarifying :D (the results of battling her are the same, with generic dialogue of her reminiscing about being a pokemon trainer when she was younger. if you manage to use warp codes or walk through walls, you get in a trainer battle with Archie, the leader of Team Aqua, who sends out a shiny question mark in battle. Which is strange, instead of a generic trainer, why is it Archie? Maybe a special event was planned with the e reader and then scrapped.)
FR and LG is built with the same engine as RS so all the trainer sprites are left in the code just dummied out. The Archie trainer data is near the beginning.
That at least let’s me make my own head canon that the room was originally planned to let you battle the team leader from the other game.
That at least let’s me make my own head canon that the room was originally planned to let you battle the team leader from the other game.
"When I was young I was a Pokemon Toner." He was the first Pokemon PT in a game, nice!
Just like the blocked staircase in New Mauville. I wonder if it was used to hold a Victini event (Like Liberty Garden from Pokemon BW/BW2) but was scrapped due to time restraints?
From what i seen. It doesnt go anywhere
Clicked on this five year old video because I had no idea what staircase this was taking about. As soon as I saw the house though I instantly remembered.
There's a blocked staircase in FRLG aswell! On one of the Sevii Islands. Has there been any discoverings on that? I haven't seen it in a long time but I believe it was near the pokecenter on the vertical island with rich NPCs you can farm with the VS Seeker to the south.
I dont think that one has a load zone
@@itssevii3622 sad :(
It was for wireless play with 2 people. I believe a pokemon jump rope minigame and another minigame where you catch falling berries with Dodrio's mouth.
@@richardray6258 That doesn't sound right. That sounds like Joyful Game Corner on Two Island.
@@BIZaGoten Ah shit. My b. Thought you were talking about that.
Never even played any pokemon after second gen, but I still had to click this. Also somehow knew you'd point out that you played the german version of the game, cause my own german brain was like "this dude be talkin hella familiar bruh.".
I don't really know as to why I am here, but I am glad to be here.
In fr lg there is a blocked door with the same looking room with an npc in the same part of the room. Apparently you would battle the aqua team leader
The hiker was said to be a mass murderer and he stabs you in the throat repeatedly until you reset the game. This is why the old man trapped the door.
Now I honestly want to see someone do this battle with the actual card that goes with it.
Absolute Chad plays with the non-backlit pallete
What if you use "can catch other trainer's pokemon" cheat? Will you get the "?" pokemon?
This reminds me of when I was a kid, my friend told me you could crawl back out through the vents on The Library and get a secret ending in Halo: CE Anniversary. I spend literal days trying to get up there, and checked every damn vent on the first and second levels. Nothing. Nothing but disappointment, that is…
Removing the plant sprites wasn’t necessary as long as you changed their collision boxes (you’d simply walk through them and into the staircase).
I wonder, had you left the sprites alone, would they still be gone after completing the battle & exiting? I’m sure they would in order to make room for the old man. Still interesting though.
nerd
What an interesting video. Idk why It was suddenly recommended to me but I'm happy it was.
my dude just start with a pokemon with fly
It’s nice to finally know about this. Couldn’t for the life of me, understand why I couldn’t go back there.
Finally i can sleep with peace now
Woah, the name for Sootopolis City is even cooler in German!
Sleepless nights has been defeated
What happens if you don't kill his pokemon? What move would that 'thing' use?