This video was great. I was just talking with someone this week about this. I think the ambient humidity plays a huge roll as well as the time of year the tree is cut down here in Indiana. Great info Genin, nice work.
I too made it to the end via the skim feature 😂. I think heat and air movement are the top 2 keys to drying firewood. A kiln gets no sunlight but has heat and air movement.
I remember that video of Chris’s. It was interesting. I’m with ya about hickory, the bugs get in it and it takes forever to dry. But hickory is very popular around my area and I almost always sell it before it seasons. The customers who buy it know it’s not seasoned but they want it while it’s available to dry themselves for smoking wood. Great video Jimmy! 👊🏻
Agree with what you said. Here in PA I believe that the worst time for drying wood is the dead of summer when humidity is very high and then in the dead of winter when we get below zero and everything freezes. It is what it is and the wood sits there until it's dry enough to sell. Take care !
Great video Genin. I am 💯 on board with your sunlight analogy. Just like 90° in the shade feels much cooler than 90° in the direct sunlight. The UV rays act just like a microwave, they just heat things up more 👌🏻 Hickory definitely takes FOREVER!!
I wasnt done watching when I replied to Jeremiah 😂😂 I'm surprised that oak was dryer than the hickory. Cool to see all the different species and how they've dried out. Wood definitely takes time. I sold too much last year and I only have maybe 2 cord ready to sell this year.... plenty for myself, but not taking from my own supply 😂😂 Sun and wind is the name of the game, and I really don't have that on my property. Nice chat man 💪
@@LogCabinFirewood thanks for stopping by jack, I was suprised the hickory took as long as it did. Luckily my hickory customers are smokers and they prefer green rather than it dry. I’m just not a big fan of hickory. I know it says it has a high btu number but after burning it last year in my stove i didn’t find that it burned as hot or as long as oak or locust. Those 2 in my opinion are the premium woods. Locust leaves a little more ash than hickory but it burns noticably hotter than other woods. I love the longevity and low ash of oak though.
Nice video Genin. We split our hickory, oak and beech smaller so that it'll dry quicker. MOST dry firewood has (around) the same btu output per ton.... regardless of the species, so quicker drying wood we split a bit bigger than the slower drying stuff. 👍
@@dereksstuff8395 that’s a good idea on smaller splits, I try to split oak, hickory and locust smaller, camera doesn’t do it justice somtimes 😂 thanks for stopping by Derek!
@@upinsmokefirewood this was definitely healthy ash, but I think the super dead ash that everyone refers to as being so dry, usually has been laying on the ground taking on water, so the fact that it’s dead kind of is counter productive to it being down and starting to rot.
Yup, made it all the way to the end! cool video Genin . It’s always interesting to see different species of firewood and they’re drying times. I’m with you. I’ve heard Ash is cash 1000 times and I’ve had some split for almost 3 months and it’s still over 30% take care, brother.👊🏻
@@toddsoutsideagain thanks for sticking threw Todd, I couldn’t decide if this would be a skim video or interesting to some people. I’m definitely most impressed with the elm drying time. Have a good safe day!
Great video Genin. I agree direct sun and breeze are critical. I’ve found air movement to actually be more important. I was glad to see the elm results. I don’t get a lot of elm but I have a landscape customer that had a large elm blowdown that I need to clean up. I wasn’t sure if I would keep it for firewood… now I know!
Man I could feel the wind being taken out of your sails when you stabbed that hickory and saw 40+ 🤣 nothing worse than being two months from firewood season and cracking stuff open to find it nowhere close. Great video!
@@FoothillsFirewoodluckily on the hickory, smokers buy it and they prefer it freshly cut. They’re disappointed when I say it’s been drying for a year 😂
Nice video ! I had a thought, on maybe the oak wasn't a accurate reading ! Im thinking that the Sun was beating on the tin that the oak was leaning on ! Im thinking the more inside pieces would still have a moisture of 35 + I did stay til the end of your videos !! LOL😊
I think the biggest factors in firewood drying time is species, initial moisture content and split size. IE. Fresh cut and split red oak has moisture content of 40+ percent. Given that it is a rather dense wood, is a reason why it takes a long time to dry.
@@bwillan I agree with you on initial moisture content that’s why I wanted to explain the woods condition before I initially split it. Split size definitely helps, I don’t want kindling size but I also don’t want huge chunks that take forever to dry. I usually try to split my denser woods smaller to compensate the drying time. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!
Watching this I’m like yup. Don’t assume. Everyone s set up is different and there are so many factors that help or hinder wood drying. I tried the bin thing and it was a total fail. There are TH-camrs that are so lucky with their drying conditions and make it seem so easy. They turn their yard over late winter to early winter. It’s amazing fortunate . Or it’s not dry. Either way I can’t do that and I’m good with it. My conditions are simply different. Learn your wood and what works for you!
@@stannelson2582 that’s right, learn the wood, learn the moisture meter and figure out what’s works for you. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Thank you for saying that about ash. I always tell people that your stove or fireplace doesn’t know it’s ash or oak. It just knows it’s still reading 30% when you dropped . The myth that can you just go ahead and burn it is nuts lol. Maybe if it was dead for years and you burn outside sure. No way that’s burning in a modern EPA stove.
Some people think the same thing about Aspen, lol. Even some of the sellers in my area advertise that it was cut yesterday, and will be ready to sell tomorrow.
@@amandadavis9726 there is a lot of sellers around me that claim it’s seasoned wood but in reality it rolled off the tree service truck Monday and on Wednesday it’s on the road side stand rack
@@Raymerwood I don’t cover them, it’s probably a good idea but I don’t want to go through the process of making tops and then having them laying around when the totes empty. Somtimes in the winter when I know there’s rain in the forecast and I have wood to sell I’ll put a hand full of totes under my lean to so they stay dry. Thanks for watching!
@@OpenAirAdventure the hickory was about average size for what I split and had a while to dry, I think it just takes awhile. The ash hasn’t had much time to dry so I’m sure that’s why it was still wet.
I think it might dry a little faster tossed in a ibc tote but not a pile that's 12 foot wide and 8 feet high the middle won't dry as fast as stacked. I noticed the hickory the bugs don't seem to get in it if you split it not long after it's down
@@ironbound1984 I don’t cover it, somtimes when I know rain is coming and I have deliveries planned I’ll put the wood that’s going out under my lean too to keep it dry.
Bottom line……it all burns and it’s best to stay a year at a time or more ahead of the needed season to burn. Try to provide as much sun and air movement as possible orient the wood as best to take advantage of both. More importantly to me is the BTU each species gives when burned vs the time required to burn……..point being the density of the wood , woods like hickory, oak and locust……give off the most heat for the longest periods……woods like Poplar, Walnut and Pine….to a point even Ash (Slightly longer) give of great heat, but for shorter periods of time……they burn up fast. So in the scheme of things……the amount of wood needed, for personal use vs commercial use (How Much Wood, needed how fast) will make,one choose different species, types of drying, based on the turnover of wood required. So if for a business VS personal use……will determine what process and type of wood one would choose to have. * Key factor…….room for storage available and access to the type of wood available 👍 IMHO 🔥🪵🇺🇸
@@Living-The-Dream all great points Rick. Lighter woods, dry fast, heavier dry slower. I really like the locust, I feel like it drys well for how heavy it is, and it burns hot and long! Hickory isn’t my favorite but it’s a sought after wood, luckily the people cooking with it prefer it wet. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. Have a good one!
Morning Genin , great comparison . I would have said the walnut thrown into the tote would have had smaller number that the stacked . Man you are far from being an idiot . 👍🏻🇺🇸🪵
Humidity plays a huge role in drying along with air movement . Having the first 2 in place are the key from my experience.
@@AllenFamilyFirewood great points Phil!
This video was great. I was just talking with someone this week about this. I think the ambient humidity plays a huge roll as well as the time of year the tree is cut down here in Indiana. Great info Genin, nice work.
@@BobbySixguns good point on the humidity Bob 👍
I too made it to the end via the skim feature 😂. I think heat and air movement are the top 2 keys to drying firewood. A kiln gets no sunlight but has heat and air movement.
@@KNLFirewood heat and air, but for us average guys, hard to get heat without sunlight 😂
Interesting video bud. Take care.
Sunlight and wind are your best days of drying firewood, in my opinion!! Great video!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
@@davidedwards3734 I agree, thanks for watching David!
I remember that video of Chris’s. It was interesting.
I’m with ya about hickory, the bugs get in it and it takes forever to dry. But hickory is very popular around my area and I almost always sell it before it seasons. The customers who buy it know it’s not seasoned but they want it while it’s available to dry themselves for smoking wood.
Great video Jimmy! 👊🏻
@@TwinCityFirewood like you most of my hickory customers are buying it to smoke with. Thanks for stopping by Jacob, have a good safe day!
Agree with what you said. Here in PA I believe that the worst time for drying wood is the dead of summer when humidity is very high and then in the dead of winter when we get below zero and everything freezes. It is what it is and the wood sits there until it's dry enough to sell. Take care !
@@TimStout71 that’s right, at the end of the day, it takes what it takes! Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts 👍
Great video Genin. I am 💯 on board with your sunlight analogy. Just like 90° in the shade feels much cooler than 90° in the direct sunlight. The UV rays act just like a microwave, they just heat things up more 👌🏻 Hickory definitely takes FOREVER!!
@@McKameyFarms that’s a good example with the microwave! Thanks for stopping by Brandon 👍
I wasnt done watching when I replied to Jeremiah 😂😂
I'm surprised that oak was dryer than the hickory. Cool to see all the different species and how they've dried out. Wood definitely takes time. I sold too much last year and I only have maybe 2 cord ready to sell this year.... plenty for myself, but not taking from my own supply 😂😂
Sun and wind is the name of the game, and I really don't have that on my property.
Nice chat man 💪
@@LogCabinFirewood thanks for stopping by jack, I was suprised the hickory took as long as it did. Luckily my hickory customers are smokers and they prefer green rather than it dry. I’m just not a big fan of hickory. I know it says it has a high btu number but after burning it last year in my stove i didn’t find that it burned as hot or as long as oak or locust. Those 2 in my opinion are the premium woods. Locust leaves a little more ash than hickory but it burns noticably hotter than other woods. I love the longevity and low ash of oak though.
Nice video Genin. We split our hickory, oak and beech smaller so that it'll dry quicker. MOST dry firewood has (around) the same btu output per ton.... regardless of the species, so quicker drying wood we split a bit bigger than the slower drying stuff. 👍
@@dereksstuff8395 that’s a good idea on smaller splits, I try to split oak, hickory and locust smaller, camera doesn’t do it justice somtimes 😂 thanks for stopping by Derek!
Good video Genin. I don't get much ash but that is interesting that it was so wet.
@@upinsmokefirewood this was definitely healthy ash, but I think the super dead ash that everyone refers to as being so dry, usually has been laying on the ground taking on water, so the fact that it’s dead kind of is counter productive to it being down and starting to rot.
Yup, made it all the way to the end! cool video Genin . It’s always interesting to see different species of firewood and they’re drying times. I’m with you. I’ve heard Ash is cash 1000 times and I’ve had some split for almost 3 months and it’s still over 30% take care, brother.👊🏻
@@toddsoutsideagain thanks for sticking threw Todd, I couldn’t decide if this would be a skim video or interesting to some people. I’m definitely most impressed with the elm drying time. Have a good safe day!
Great video Genin. I agree direct sun and breeze are critical. I’ve found air movement to actually be more important. I was glad to see the elm results. I don’t get a lot of elm but I have a landscape customer that had a large elm blowdown that I need to clean up. I wasn’t sure if I would keep it for firewood… now I know!
@@oldguyfirewood thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts dick, go get that elm!
Love the question, happy to chuckle. Answer: all depends on context. Keep cuttin'!
Man I could feel the wind being taken out of your sails when you stabbed that hickory and saw 40+ 🤣 nothing worse than being two months from firewood season and cracking stuff open to find it nowhere close. Great video!
@@FoothillsFirewoodluckily on the hickory, smokers buy it and they prefer it freshly cut. They’re disappointed when I say it’s been drying for a year 😂
Ash is cash but it still needs to season. In my opinion nothing is ready to burn! Good job Genin👍👍
I 100% agree. I cringe when I see people split and sell right away from log form even if its ash.
@@outdoorsinthe608 ash is good wood, I just think they whole “ ready to burn” is blown out of proportion.
Put tin sheets over the top it holds the heat in and keep wood dry sides open allows air flow I find it drys quicker.
@@jameswilkins7757 that’s a good idea!
Nice video !
I had a thought, on maybe the oak wasn't a accurate reading !
Im thinking that the Sun was beating on the tin that the oak was leaning on !
Im thinking the more inside pieces would still have a moisture of 35 +
I did stay til the end of your videos !! LOL😊
@@kendriedger151 thanks for sticking through 😂that is a possibility on the oak!
@@765Guys 👍😁
I think the biggest factors in firewood drying time is species, initial moisture content and split size. IE. Fresh cut and split red oak has moisture content of 40+ percent. Given that it is a rather dense wood, is a reason why it takes a long time to dry.
@@bwillan I agree with you on initial moisture content that’s why I wanted to explain the woods condition before I initially split it. Split size definitely helps, I don’t want kindling size but I also don’t want huge chunks that take forever to dry. I usually try to split my denser woods smaller to compensate the drying time. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!
Outside of the species itself,…I would say that the amount of wind makes the biggest difference.
I was surprised by the results of the Hickory and the Ash. Never know what you're going to run into!
@@billobermeyer660 that’s right, I thought it was interesting to take the time and find out how things were going. Thanks for watching bill!
Great video buddy 🪵🔥😀
@@markficarra8502 thanks!
Watching this I’m like yup. Don’t assume. Everyone s set up is different and there are so many factors that help or hinder wood drying. I tried the bin thing and it was a total fail. There are TH-camrs that are so lucky with their drying conditions and make it seem so easy. They turn their yard over late winter to early winter. It’s amazing fortunate . Or it’s not dry. Either way I can’t do that and I’m good with it. My conditions are simply different. Learn your wood and what works for you!
@@stannelson2582 that’s right, learn the wood, learn the moisture meter and figure out what’s works for you. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Thank you for saying that about ash. I always tell people that your stove or fireplace doesn’t know it’s ash or oak. It just knows it’s still reading 30% when you dropped . The myth that can you just go ahead and burn it is nuts lol. Maybe if it was dead for years and you burn outside sure. No way that’s burning in a modern EPA stove.
Some people think the same thing about Aspen, lol. Even some of the sellers in my area advertise that it was cut yesterday, and will be ready to sell tomorrow.
@@josevelasco3245 the epa stoves definitely like dry wood!
@@amandadavis9726 there is a lot of sellers around me that claim it’s seasoned wood but in reality it rolled off the tree service truck Monday and on Wednesday it’s on the road side stand rack
@@765Guys oh it’s an epidemic here in CT
Great video! You have a lot of IBC totes, nice. So you don’t cover your wood either?
@@Raymerwood I don’t cover them, it’s probably a good idea but I don’t want to go through the process of making tops and then having them laying around when the totes empty. Somtimes in the winter when I know there’s rain in the forecast and I have wood to sell I’ll put a hand full of totes under my lean to so they stay dry. Thanks for watching!
@@765Guys makes total sense. Thx for replying
Hey Genin. Do you think Hickory and Ash may need to be split smaller to keep up with the rest?
@@OpenAirAdventure the hickory was about average size for what I split and had a while to dry, I think it just takes awhile. The ash hasn’t had much time to dry so I’m sure that’s why it was still wet.
@765Guys I understand. The sun, as you mentioned, does make a big difference. ttyl
I think it might dry a little faster tossed in a ibc tote but not a pile that's 12 foot wide and 8 feet high the middle won't dry as fast as stacked. I noticed the hickory the bugs don't seem to get in it if you split it not long after it's down
I guss it all depends were the woods stack or if the sun hits and how loose you stack it
@@Asimpleman753 no doubt about that!
It would dry much quicker if you sunned the wood on concrete/pavement instead of grass/dirt. It reflects the heat and keeps it dry.
@@williepie that’s a good idea, and I bet it would
You must cover all that come rain season? That’s a lot of work just to tarp it all !
@@ironbound1984 I don’t cover it, somtimes when I know rain is coming and I have deliveries planned I’ll put the wood that’s going out under my lean too to keep it dry.
Just wondering what type of ax are you using there?
@@kurtmanshardt9825 it’s a Husqvarna, cool little axe and great for pounding wedges but doesn’t compare to an x27 at splitting wood.
Bottom line……it all burns and it’s best to stay a year at a time or more ahead of the needed season to burn. Try to provide as much sun and air movement as possible orient the wood as best to take advantage of both. More importantly to me is the BTU each species gives when burned vs the time required to burn……..point being the density of the wood , woods like hickory, oak and locust……give off the most heat for the longest periods……woods like Poplar, Walnut and Pine….to a point even Ash (Slightly longer) give of great heat, but for shorter periods of time……they burn up fast. So in the scheme of things……the amount of wood needed, for personal use vs commercial use (How Much Wood, needed how fast) will make,one choose different species, types of drying, based on the turnover of wood required. So if for a business VS personal use……will determine what process and type of wood one would choose to have. * Key factor…….room for storage available and access to the type of wood available 👍 IMHO 🔥🪵🇺🇸
@@Living-The-Dream all great points Rick. Lighter woods, dry fast, heavier dry slower. I really like the locust, I feel like it drys well for how heavy it is, and it burns hot and long! Hickory isn’t my favorite but it’s a sought after wood, luckily the people cooking with it prefer it wet. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. Have a good one!
Morning Genin , great comparison . I would have said the walnut thrown into the tote would have had smaller number that the stacked . Man you are far from being an idiot . 👍🏻🇺🇸🪵
@@inthebackyardwithdel438 definitely interesting to see the results, thanks for stopping by del, will I be seeing you at Bunyon in a few weeks?
@@765Guys yes sir Genin , I’m at the Days Inn