Repulsor Engines | The Archive
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- In this episode: We look in depth at the specifics of Repulsor engines and theories on its operation, centered around the Graviton.
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Oh man, is it Christmas already? I dont know what I expected, but a lesson in quantum mechanics didnt cross my mind. I am so fascinated by this entire field of research now.
Love how the Covenant ships operate. Maybe make a video on the Banished Warships along with Warship Gabraakon? That would be interesting to watch!
I was thinking about that while watching this video. I'd also like to see videos about how the Banished have altered the Covenants technology for their uses.
The interesting thing to me is that they have an "anti-gravity court" for Gravball, and the repulsors create gravity wells as this video so well explains. So if you have the ability to create a gravity well in front of the ship and an anti-gravity 'hill' behind the ship, you have an alcubierre style warp field. Is this ever used for FTL Warp travel in the Halo lore?
Yes he mentioned it in the high Charity video but other than creating or negating 1g gravity human grav tech is generally too weak to be that kind of propulsion. Also no Star Trek style nav deflector in Halo.
The thing about using it for FTL like you describe, things like relativistic side effects can occur. Slipspace allows one to sidestep those paradoxes, though it can cause it's own set of paradoxes if strained too much on the local space-time brane.
Not necessarily, one of the theoretical niceties of that manner of drive is that since the ships local space time is a relatively flat area of space surrounded by the well and the hill, then the ship itself isn't moving so it doesn't experience relativistic effects (that is my understanding, at least?). The curved space around it would, but the bubble the ship rides in would be flat. It does seem like Slipspace, once it's mastered, allows for much faster travel, perhaps, and provides a lot of other advantages. It seems like this style of FTL drive is just skipped over since they can immediately go to Slipspace drives because of the work of older races. I'd be curious if it was a stepping stone at one point in the lore with the Precursors, Forerunners or Ancient Humans, and it is really neat to see it used for non-FTL speed travel. :)
I wonder if the scale of power generated in Halo would allow for maintaining such "warp field" for extended period of time required for interstellar travel? The implication was that the slipspace engines are "cheap" power-wise to operate compared to any alternative method of travel so it became predominant-especially with hyper-efficient forerunner stuff that the Covenant were using.
I agree on the power issue. I have heard that, due to the existing known methods of energy conversion, there is not a lot better than fusion for power generation until or unless you get into exotic power generation methods. Not even a matted-antimatter reactor would be better because you must use the same methods of energy extraction as in a fusion reactor, with the added drain of maintaining the antimatter containment measures unless you spend the effort of containing each small packet of antimatter in a fullerene molecule and use that instead, which would vastly increase the cost of the fuel and likely make fusion the most economical method anyway. Exotix power generation methods include but are likely not limited to; pulsed or constant micro-singularity matter-energy conversion power, Zero-Point energy extraction, or pulling energy from other dimensions altogether, as in a Hyperspace Core Tap. This could easily result in people in the Halo universe being unable to generate the required energy, even if the drive field was configured correctly.
I've always loved the way Covenant ships moved!!! Semi perpetual engines are my favorite. Idk if you've seen Gundam 00 but they use a theoretical engine called a solar drive, and it uses particles as a kind of propellant that isn't affected by, gravity, friction, etc.. they have pretty good lore behind the solar drive and why it also uses a particle decay effect that can be done almost infinitely if it's built right.
More specifically, GN Drives utilize and exploit magnetic monopoles or baryonic decay (forgive me, it’s been a while, I can’t recall exactly which) as an effectively semi-perpetual power source with multiple applications.
so covenant used repulsor engines to manipulate gravity that's why they don't need extra small thrusters to change pitch and yow for the ship to change direction. But how did the UNSC is able to change the direction of their ship without using small thrusters to maneuver around space when the UNSC only used a more primitive method of electric drive which is Ion Drive propulsion.
Maybe one explanation can be given as there are traditional thrusters behind UNSC ships, those thrusters are used to propel the ship in normal space and only use Anti-Grav only for maneuvering the ship. This may mitigate some problems that have arrived through the assumptions in the video.
remind me, do you still need traditional thrust within slipspace?
@@rigen97 AFAIK Yes, ships still use normal thrusters inside slipspace to travel at sub-light speeds.
@@omkarpandit357 then I guess that's the primary purpose for the large thruster banks behind most Halo ships; because realistically you don't really need any other direction other than "forward" in slipspace, while in normal space having such an unbalanced amount of thrusters in one direction would be catastrophic. We never really see them do retro-burn either, perhaps because they primarily used repulsors in normal space, but they can't really do that in slipspace that has different laws of physics.
Superb video! This physicist concurs with your hypothesis 😎
*Do a video explaining the logic behind why for whatever reason Charon Frigates have permanent open doors on their rears!*
Clearly in the event of emergency warthog landing, it’s shocking how often it happens.
GUNDAM 00's GN DRIVE engines would be great to see a detailed scientific explanation video on.
Correction: We ARE producing more energy than we put in now but obviously it's about maintaining that now.
You mentioned the idea of endless acceleration at one point. I believe that objects "gain more mass" as they get closer to the speed of light, and that they contract in length in the direction of travel. Were these factors accounted for in your mention of endless acceleration?
Great video btw 👍
So the repulsers should actually be called attractors since they attract things using the gravitational force
Ah you stole my sentiment almost word for word
Yes and No. Repulsor Technology manipulates the very foundation of gravity, it repels and attracts forces to bend space itself. Repulsors can do both at the same time so it can be said it's a variable force in quantum mechanics. But to say in your level of opinion the Blackhole is more of an Attractor than a Repulsor because a Black Hole is made by a very condensed form of matter that is called a Singularity a small infiniteness to a speck degree of mass and energy that its influence if very enormous and is so dense that it bends space and time itself that every ceased to exist within its confinement and also causes to attract forces, light and matter to its center by devouring and destroying it to add more energy for the singularity in order for its continuous existence but its lifespan goes to Billions to Trillions of earth years.
Your thinking on gravity based propellantless engines exactly parallels my own, more general thinking for this type of drive. I am glad that I'm not the only one thinking along those lines, though I have considered other design concepts that are not relevant in a discussion of Covenant drive technology.
Having some rooms with lowered gravity while in space would save tons of energy in not only a lower power draw from the reactor but if you did it in say the cargo bay now everything you need to load or unload is lighter and therefore easier to move even using conventional methods of moving stuff. In the mechanics bay parts would be lighter and you would have less risk of injury or damage due to dropping something.
10:15 blanked our watching that awesome cinematic
Well we know gravitational waves exist due to observing the collision of 2 black holes some years back. I do hope we can prove that gravitational particles exist. Plus, aside from repulsors & gravball; imagine all the scientific, industrial, & recreational possibilities.
6:36 Damn, imagine saying this and then 2 weeks later the biggest breakthrough in nuclear fusion in literal decades happens.
your channel is absolutely fantastic
This is so damn interesting! you are extremly gifted at explaining hard to understand concepts to numb nuts like me, I must say!
Honestly..
Can you make a video on the evolution of halo sangheili armor patterns and the components of them, basically a lore and theory of each armor variant, especially infinite
wheres is that cas class carrier
Uploaded and Scheduled for release.
Love this series you have come out with! Keep it up
Can you make a video on plasma torpedoes
I hope for a Banshee Most Detailed. I fucking loved it since I was 8.
Big brain moment.... What if the "particle" of gravity... is particles with mass?
Want more content like this
I wonder if a graviton could change the topology of the universe in such a way that the asymmetrical tidal forces cause the center of mass to "slide down" towards the now lower point of a gravity field, and because gravity is such a weak force with such a large impact we just don't have ways to detect it yet (or as posited, a graviton may not actually exist and it's just localized mass effects on the topology of space)
who wants to go to school when we have a teacher like installation 00!
Nothing can travel through space at the speed of light.
That doesn't necessarily apply to the folding of space-time itself.
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Photons are not massless under all circumstances. They can also exist as a particle and a wave at the same time.
I would have loved for all the B roll to just be shooting the engines on Long Night of Solace! 😂
Hay can you d p a break down of the nova bomb
I thought that LIGO discovered the graviton that time it detected two black holes colliding?
They discovered gravitational waves, not gravitons. When there are waves, there *should* be particles, mind you, but nothing we have seen yet
@@benz505 Darn shame
could u upload an archive for Forerunners propulsion drives and power generation system?
its called an ion pulse drive, and its the roswell technology. its antiquity today.
I can wait to sit on my levitating couch when we figure out how to do this.
The trouble with antigrav tech is that, based on our current understanding, there's a very high likelihood of a wholly destructive interaction with the fabric of space-time. What do I mean? Simple: gravity is not it's own separate 'thing'. That which we call gravity is, in practical terms, a bending / warping of the fabric of space. We know that space and time are bound up with one another (hence the term "spacetime continuum"), proven both mathematically and experimentally, the best example being how satellites are programmed to take the difference between gravity and orbit vs gravity on the ground into effect when calculating time. As theory goes, a traveler on a spaceship moving at near the speed of light could spend decades in space (from the perspective of earth) but only have aged by years.
What does this have to do with antigravity? Simple. Anything that effects the flow of gravity also effects the flow of time, as discussed. Ergo, a device capable of creating an antigravity field is also creating an anti-time field... and the implications of that, the damage it could cause, and the secondary technological miracles needed to safely use it as a form of propulsion... well, it's all fairly staggering.
So what you're saying is that through quantum mechanics, we could control gravity??
Maybe, maybe not. We don't know yet, but the only way we'll find out is by doing science.
@@g.f.martianshipyards9328 that's good enough for me.
Tho, my question is, if you could allow it to be put in toys (the gravity tech) that might mean that it can't truly take up THAT much power to power it, right?
@@marz.6102 Probably, yeah. It depends on what you define as "much power", a society with fusion reactors might see this differently than we do today.
@@g.f.martianshipyards9328 I mean let's see the equivalent to fusion grab tech, for us it's the combustion engine, and wait-, we use combustion engine in toys,
Like those rc cars that go really fast,I think that's a property comparison, right?
@@marz.6102 For my view, flattened zero modes of 'action' may be the crucial key.
Presumably Einstein action, and akin to Cassimir engineering?
But it's all exceptionally theoretical, and tenuous, at best, so far.
Brute salesman: *Slaps Repulsor Engine*
This baby can cut across the Milky Way in 10 minutes.
LoL
haw u makit so simply/ or gravatron partic. even exist??
There is now new research that scientist claim to have found the existence of a graviton particle in a semi conductor
actually the collider at waxahachie in texas would very likely not have helped or help in any way tor find the graviton. bobby broccoly made a video series on the thing and long story short: that things would have been powerfull but with a realy low resolution. the LHC is far weaker but has far better resolution.
But I thought any sort of gravity based engines had to be powered by element 115?
I don’t mind anti gravity being used to explain how these massive ships hover in atmosphere but it just bugs me that these gravity wells also serve as the ship’s propulsion. If these gravity generators are what push and pull ships, then what’s the point of the massive engines on the rear of every ship? it just seems dumb to have these cool looking ships with huge thrusters on the back just to hand wave it all away and say the ship actually moves by manipulating a gravity well. Plus any gravity well big enough to move your ship around in any meaningful way would also attract anything in the area. Space battles including fleets of ships in close proximity don’t make sense anymore if you consider the hundreds of massive gravity wells being generated by these ships to maneuver around. Think of all the fighter ships like banshees and seraphs whizzing around these ships somehow overcoming the gravity wells of all those ships in the battle. It just doesn’t make sense.
Plus it really feels like that system violates the laws of physics even as we know them currently. For the same reason that you can’t put a fan on a sail boat and blow it into the sails and sail around, it seems to me that generating a gravitational pull from within your ship and projecting it forward would just cancel out all of the movement.
It’s such a needless explanation that just over complicates everything. Ships moving using the massive conventional engines already on the ship just makes so much more sense
The Repulsor Drives, Anti-Grav "Thruster" Suite, and Artificial Gravity Systems are all 3 unique to themselves technologies.
The "Engines" on the back are exhausts for the residual exotic particles and plasma particulate that need to be dumped via an electromagnetic chute similar to UNSC Fusion Drives Vectored Drive Exhaust System. Otherwise the Function of the Repulsors at base operation of the core drive itself doesn't require any sort of visible apeture like the fraking Cylon's 2003 variant Basestars.
The gravity wells and gravitics generated by these systems and even Star Trek Warp Drives don't interact with objects like you'd think and aren't strong enough to do so. Now, when it comes to small-craft, it would impart some influence. However the Repulsor and Anti-Grav's are not attractors and classical in function gravity like Artificial Gravity. Small-craft are usually going fast enough and the diagmagnetics on their spaceframes aren't that strong enough that they can wizz by.
The Repulsor System has a steering, pushing, and pulling component. You can think of it like the Do335 Pusher-Puller that the Germans cooked up during WWII. The part at the bow is pulling it forward like a tradional prop. The system on the stern is pushing it along like a turbofan engine. The Steering System operates like he said, but that's too simplistic a description to be honest and I can't bring forth the knowledge to more intricately describe it; its certainly above current science and tech level at the moment I'll say that. The sum total system also is making a rippling like effect on the fabric of spacetime via another part of the system, so you can imagine this part acting like a magic carpet kind of deal; this works by rippling the tidal gravitic forces from fore to aft in a wave like manner.
The "falling into" description is because of the actual falling into the well of the hull along the Y axis via the gravity generators whilst the "thrust vector" of the Repulsor proper from the "exhaust plume" is "pushing" the hull forwards and because of its situation the hull like the exhaust nozzles on the Su-35 Super Flanker it is also slightly pushing the hull out and away from the well's singularity point in spacetime gently; thus allowing the "magic carpet" motion of the whole system.
Its "needlessly" complex, because the mechanics and science of the whole thing is so complex on just the particulars of how it functions.
But in Science Fiction there are different types of Electric drives and Matter Manipulation Drives that are confirmed and theorized for example are listed below, the higher the tiers the more efficient it is and Repulsor Drives belong to matter manipulation tech three.
Electric Propulsion Technology
T1. Ion Drive
T2. Plasma Drive
T3. Anti-Matter Drive
T4. Fusion Drive
T5. Impulse Drive
Matter Manipulation Technology
T1. Repulsor Drive
T2. Reaction Drive/Torsion Field
T3. Dark Matter Drive
T4. Black Hole Drive/Singularity Drive
and many other types of more hyper-efficient and hyper-advanced forms of Propulsion Technology in science fiction that defy laws and physics, space and time, from dimensions to multiversal scale that could be found in both Films and Books theory of facts otherwise.
I thought the higgs boson carries gravity
But we have 1 Way its name is to make this look like its called "Magnetohydrodynamics thruster "
Man if you just waited two more weeks to make this video you would have been able to talk about how we just got nuclear fusion to put out more energy than we had to put in to make it happen.
How. How does a ship withstand its own engines gravitic fields. GRAVITIC fields.
So it's a warp drive...
My head is going yo explote y just got out of microbiologie class and know I'm listening to cuantom mecanics
I need more on the precursors and I want to know what the primordial told them ppl 😂
Already got a video on it.
@@Installation00 So, do you think the 'test' of humanity will ever come to pass?
Or has it been and gone, even?
Also, will the Endless ever reawaken a Precursor, perhaps?
You forgot to tell everyone to roll sanity before starting this
Me Finks das got uh bunch of Gretchen in dim engines and dem Gretchen's is just yell'ns direction that the ship wans ta Go
Electromagnetism, density and buoyancy instead of "Gravity".
The equation for buoyancy has gravity in it. You can't have one without the other.
@@g.f.martianshipyards9328I always thought of it as acceleration due to density
@@brandonthipphavong1656 Then you thought of it wrongly, no other way to put it.
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So, let me ask you this... (and if you think it violates any of the known laws of physics, lets work to find a way to break or workaround).
What if I said there might be a way to manage gravity, in a way that it works against itself. I call it a resonance field. Find w;hat frequency gravity exists or works at, and your work is halfway done. Now find a way to resonate gravity against itself. There's the other half. Simple, huh? The entire system, called GEMS (Gravity Environment Management System) would do what the Repulsorlifts do with bits of a star's singularity plucked from black holes. Only in our own backyard and without blackholes to mine.
Get back with me when you finish thinking it over.
First?
If my comments seem outta place it's because they are. Trying to comment on a Death Clock/ Metal apocalypse video. Lol.
Gravity is _not_ a force. It is an observed affect. It doesn't exist. When you accept and understand what Stephen Hawking was saying, that there is no mass or energy just information, it starts making more sense.
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