His full name is (AbduRahman Ibn Mohammad Ibn Khaldoon) meaning (AbduRahman son of Mohammad son of Khaldoon) so basically when you're referring to him by just "Khaldoon" you're calling him by his grandparent's name. Al-Moqadema is the abstract or introduction before any research, Ibn Khaldoon's introduction was so big and so detailed that people mistake it for the actual book. The encyclopedia he wrote was 8 books long the last one of them is the table of contents the first is the "introduction/moqademah" that's everyone is talking about. The encyclopedia's name is "Ketab Al-Ebar" that translate "the book of (lessons)" as there's no English word I'm aware of for the Arabic word Ebar that means something deeper than a lesson and more like some kind of teaching that you'd (comprehend) rather than (learn).
Glad that someone finally pointed this out, as most people underestimate his literature heritage and his genius, as they think his "Muqaddima" is his greatest work, when it's only the Introduction of his larger massive work "Kitab al-ʿIbar".
How to recognize a decaying civilization: 1. Disparity of wealth (economy) 2. Hatred against lower class not limited to ethnicity, religion, migrants, etc. (Social cohesion) 3. Deaths of scholars/scholarly works (anti-progress of knowledge/sciences) 4. Rise of calamity businesses such as war/conquest, life/death, food/famine (fueled by previous ranks)
@@DaveHawthorne-lk9mz i guess the point number 5 and 6 could be counted as number 4 as ideology often used as a tool to mobilize manpower for warfare. Moreso now that warfare or rather the mass production of armaments become the interest of the elite politician of the top nation
disconnection of ruling classes from reality, moral standards and instinctive behaviours of human kind , blind greed, will cause civilization to collapse ?
Ibn Khaldun stands as a towering figure in the annals of intellectual history. His *Muqaddimah* is a masterpiece of historical and social analysis that transcends its time, offering groundbreaking theories on the dynamics of civilizations, social cohesion, and economic development. His profound insights into the nature of human societies and his innovative methodologies have earned him a place among the greatest thinkers of all time. Ibn Khaldun’s visionary contributions have shaped the fields of sociology, historiography, and economics, making his work not only a cornerstone of Islamic scholarship but a universal beacon of intellectual brilliance.
Idk about his impact on sociology, if only cause two sociology classes HS and college level, and no one ever mentioned him or his work. But my HS teacher failed me. Said I was being lazy w my answers. I copied from the smart kids, w my own words 😂
He recognized, like most Muslim scientists using the Quran, that everything has laws. Even societies have fixed laws. Much like the physical world, there are action and reaction, inertia, causality, periodic events...
Michael G Hopf must have copied from Ibn Khaldoun when he said: "Hard times create strong men; strong men create good times; good times create weak men; weak men create bad times."
old saying ...."the strength of an army is seen by the thinness of the potatoes peels" and .............."the worst the food the more ferocious the warriors "
لهذا السبب لازم الرجال ابدا مايرتاحون، لو الصبيان اشتغلوا من سن بلوغهم بدل لعب البلايستيشن كان وصلوا لين الجامعة وهم مجمعين ثمن مهر، الحين تحصل رجال طول وعرض وشنب من بلد أمن وأمان واقتصاد ويشتكون من كل شي وبالمقابل تحصل شباب مراهقين يتزوجون ويخلفون بدول فقيرة جدا، اتخيل بس لو الدول الغنية ما أعطت لشبابها فرصة بالرخاء، بتكون أقوى من جميع النواحي، السمنة والكسل بيقل والمال والخلفة بيزدادون الراحة خطر، حتى صرنا نشوف شباب يتشبهون بالنساء والسبب يرجع لها، الحضارات ماتحتاج مجاعة وحروب عشان تتفادى هذي النتيجة
My brother had a simpler explanation. He said it took 3 generations to make a 'gentleman'. The first to fight to create the wealth, the second to trade and consolidate wealth and the third produced an educated 'gentleman', who lost all the wealth.
@@bunyip5841 Bismarck said, the first creates the foundation, the second expands, the third preserves, the fourth gambles it away, the fifth studies history of arts and decays in misery.
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 That's right. It is attributed to Bismarck. My brother's observation reflected our own experience growing up in a post colonial society where the decline among the remaining colonials was as apparent as it was rapid.
@@bunyip5841 Well I believe, success needs hard work but also luck and favorable times. I grew up in Central Europe (Austria ) and there individual success was unterrupted two times. Real stability which made planning possible did not develop before 1950.
This is assuming families are only 3 or 4 generations. Families are thousands of generations. This pattern is pretentious. It can be said that spoilt parents will traumatise their child, who will raise spoilt children. I can see that on a superficial level. But unless you are talking about the pattern of migrants, I can’t see it.
Like the rest of the natural world, humanity is a restless, wondering, adaptable species seeking out temporary havens in a forever-changing world where we may survive and flourish. There is no end to this struggle so gentlemen maybe a temporary, hopefully reoccurring phenomenon.
Without exageration, AL Mukaddima (prologue or introduction to his other masterpiece : the universal history or / the book of examples) of Ibn Khaldoun is one of the most interesting books (if not the best) dealing with history, politics, sociology, culture, art, economy and many other civilization-related topics. The main question he attempted to address was how and why civilizations rise and fall. The most interesting aspect of his reflexions is the introduction of the notion of causality. Some analysis he developed and which are still valid until today: the to-do and not-to-do regarding taxation, the basic rules of hiring people, how and why professions/jobs do prosper, some rules of market competition. The man was Born in modern day Tunisia. He lived in Tunis, Algeria, morocco and Egypt among others. He had many highs and lows in his life, served many kings of his time and lived with Tamerlan for a short period. Al Mukaddima can be found on the net in many languages. However, in order to better grasp the content one needs to have some basic knowledge of the history of the Muslim world and its mechanics. If you are to read it, read it slowly and thoughtfully; and if you can, read it more than once.
@@philosopheasy- Ibn Khaldun was expertly developing the Qur'anic thesis explaining the rise and fall of peoples based on their moral and ethical probity; that civilisations evolve according to how well and badly the institution of justice in that society is effected. The normalisation of immorality resulting in inevitable injustice marking the decline and fall of such societies.
Fine video on a much ignored genius. His observations stand today, 700 years later- that hardship breeds cooperation, that diversity is needed for societies to survive hard times. That comfort breeds laziness. That shared identity trumps individual rights. Liberal democracy is in trouble, partly because we valorise individual rights and individual freedom over leading a good life, which involves treating others respectfully. Let's hope more people listen to Ibn Khaldun's observations. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I remember as a kid my father bought me the Muqadimah, which was a thick book that weights like 5kg i read a bit of it in my childhood, and i remember the stereotypes about tribes, arabs and blacks and nordics but what was mind blowing was what he said about taxation and how it affects the economy and rise and fall of a civilization and how it's influenced by the social and cultural status of the ruling class, corruption waste money and thus taxation become heavy and complicated, and it push people to bribes and thus it create a class of people who only feed on illicite acitivities and thus ruin the culture and morals of the civilization and cause it's decadence.
sciences originally Arabic and when u graduate university u dress Arab robe and tarbin because the first university in the world in North Africa morrocco
Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) was a prominent 14th-century Tunisian scholar, historian, and philosopher who made groundbreaking contributions to the fields of sociology, economics, political theory, and historiography. He is considered a forerunner of modern social sciences and a key figure in the philosophy of history. Key Concepts and Theories: * 'Asabiyyah: Ibn Khaldun's concept of social cohesion and group solidarity, which he saw as the driving force behind the rise and fall of civilizations. * Cyclical view of history: Ibn Khaldun believed that societies and states go through a cycle of rise, peak, and eventual decline, driven by changes in 'asabiyyah. * Importance of crafts and skills: He emphasized the mastery of crafts, habits, and skills as crucial for the development and progress of societies. * Role of religion: Ibn Khaldun believed that religion plays a vital role in guiding individuals and communities towards ethical conduct and righteous behavior. * Empirical approach to history: He advocated for a critical and analytical method for understanding history, focusing on social, economic, and cultural factors.
@FM-vo8pb When Ibn Khaldun lived in Tunisia, it was known as Ifriqiya (The term evolved from the Roman "Province of Africa," which was later arabized to "Ifriqiya." Over time, "Ifriqiya" came to refer to the entire continent, leading to the modern term "Africa" that is used today.) This term referred to the region encompassing modern-day Tunisia, under the rule of the Hafsid dynasty during his lifetime (1332-1406)
@@FM-vo8pb"ifriqiya" the name of Tunisia before in the ancient world (the name of the continent of Africa come from the name "ifriqia" the ancient name of the country Tunisia today) Ibn khaldoun from "ifriqya", born in "ifriqya" (the ancient name of Tunisia)
"hard times create hard men, hard men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men bring forward hard times", and the wheel keeps turning. The decline of the US nowadays should serve as a good example
Completely incorrect. A cancer casuses unhealthiness or death. A treatment or a heathly lifestyle leads to quality living. If you believe otherwise, try to live the worst lifestyle as possible and see what happens
This is not a wheel turning but more like a roller coaster in reverse..If you hadn't noticed each civilisation gets more advanced than the last..This circle of life nonsense is contradicted by an ever expanding universe,holds India back today,didn't help the Aztecs and is totally counter to evolutionary biology or we would have gone back to being monkeys by now !
Someone commented some other video (about China and how Chinese history had examples of similar decay as USA has today) in this way: "Professor Lu studied the dynastic dynamics of various dynasties to see patterns. He said most dynasties started as peasant rebellions with some socialist ideas of primitive equality. As societies mature and become richer, corruption breeds on itself, inequality becomes more widespread, any attempt to reform the system is doomed by the special interests, decadence piles on decadence until another rebellion cleanses itself." --- I myself am from nomadic culture. I see that those who call themselves "civilized" usually see themselves as better people than rest of us, and that is how every genocide is done by "civilized people", and not by those who are not seen as one. Germany, Britain, France, Israel,... Ultimate crimes, like genocide or colonialism needs idea that you are above others, not equal with them. So, "civilized people" are the most dangerous people in my eyes.
Ibn Khaldoun wrote العصبية في المقدمة... because he witnessed it happening in front of him. He was forced to leave Lisbon - Andalusia. When he visited his home...i was told that...the Protogese king offered him... his home and lands back... but he did not take them. I feel we are going through this in America.... Ibn Khaldoun RIP❤.... I read المقدمة wheb i was a child... it affected me so much
Explanation you have provided for 'asabia' is somehow more better and relevant to the entire research you have made to describe his objective of understanding the nature and character of the people, there rise and fall as their asabia remains intact or lose connection with its roots. Good work. Thanks a lot for introducing him through this platform.
I read his مقدمة he was a brilliant sociologist and I fear my words alone wont give him justice. Im so proud of being from the same pioneering nation that it once was. Ironically, Ibn Khaldun wrote about the demise of society in Tunisia back in the 14th century. I wonder what he'd say about it today during the 21st century.
Ibn Khaldun stands together with Machiavelli and Sun Tzu. An early sociologue describing the patterns of power politics and of the foundation of states.
Machiavellian attitudes is only short term gains. Trust (following rules and procedures protecting everyone’s rights) Reliability (competency and integrity) is was what really mattered. If a ruler can keep that he very likely to be in power for life unless he retires.
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 Machiavelli, Ibn Khaldun and Sun Tzu described reality, not wishful dreams. Machiavellis writings were forbidden by the church, because Elites did not want, that the people know, how they are ruled. Beside, what is not known today, Machiavelli was an early admirer of states ruled as a republic. That was revolutionary in his time. When you read his "discorsi" you will recognize that.
Your brief presentation has provided an impetus for me to organise my thoughts around this subject; a prerequisite & indispensable precursor to social cohesion. It seems that; for any social groupings to be sustainable or remain cohesive, survival of all within those groupings must be conditioned by an intrinsic determination to ensure survival of individual members within them. Because as your presentation indicates, wealth, urbanisation & other forms of social stratification, classicism & individualism, lead to, or bring about, fluidity & atomisation of social groupings & eventually lead to total disintegration. Until your presentation, I had struggled to express this concept in a logical manner. A big & a heartfelt thank-you to you.
I am very happy that you eloquently presented ibn Khaldoun's concepts. This genius is largely an unacknowledged scholar outside the academia in the public sphere, although the foundations of modern understanding of economics, sociology, anthropology, political science and history derive from his observations.
I lived the past 15 years with vthe Bedouins and oh my God so many things to learn, and I reached to a lot of similar conclusions with Ibn Khaldoon, to begin with they really don't care about us and there are different species, because they're so freaking rich. and by Rich in Arabic means that you don't really need someone else, this is with rich literally means so of course having money means that you don't need people that much but b really so freaking rich their life is so freaking fulfilling I had many things to share later go to sleep now
One of the main futuristic works of Ebn Khaldoon that he was written is what it's like when Bedouins want to build the kingdom? and it's literally how it happened, so he says that according to the Bedouin culture who is based on survival and tribal mentality that contradicts with the concept of civilisation itself, in civilized society you choose the most intelligent and capable, while in tribal Society is you just continue on the bloodline, so he says this Kingdom will be corrupted and will go to collapse and it is my country. and here is the conditions that even Ibn khaldoon himself wrote 700 years ago, first because beduina love for power so much they won't accept any Authority other than religious Authority, that's a descendant from the prophet, so this is the first condition, the second condition was when the King give lands and jobs for the tribe leaders and their kids environmental jobs in the army but even with that the King has to bring a third party as Royal Guards so that's why the royal guards in my country are definitely not bad winds because they can't be trusted for their love of power. And eventually the king won't have enough money to keep those tribe leaders happy and corruption will bring the country down.
Back to the bedrooms they really live a very fulfilling lives and since Babylon started they still refused to join and leave the nomadic life so basically with their goats Andres nomadic life the really so much fulfilled and the tribal gatherings and Customs make their lives so much socially fulfilling and whatever modern governments trying to convince Bedouin to leave their freedom they simply refuse and according to recent studies were many rich people in the west have this Gap in their life one of the solutions is to do these primitive things that these Bedouin celebrating every day which is for example making tables or drinking water or like spending the day doing these primitive things is one way to happiness so that's one of the main reasons that bed wins when won't leave that life and also recently because they're working also in tourism so they have also another source of money rather than just the goats. Like if you want to hear one joke like a Bedouin kid who suffers from autism that's a joke they are always surrounded by their brothers or their cousins and already have a lot of traditions and and Gatherings and guests. And by the way I come from Bedouin Origins so we still share some of these Traditions but my dad made it from being a farmer to the educated and live in the city but I think he f***** up that's why I went back and started to live with Beduins, more but I still enjoy the privilege of the technological life.
Wow! I have heard and read blurbs about Khaldun, but this really opened my eyes to many new ideas. Common sense I already knew but had not heard so well explained.
Thank you for this. As a regenerative farmer, this rings true on every level not only for civilizations but for people and for plants and ecosystems and animals. Evolution is the process by which an organism responds to external pressures when you remove those pressures the process of evolution is arrested and ultimately that organism Becomes separate from its surroundings, unless able to adapt. Survival of the fittest is a concept which talks not about strength, but about an organisms ability to have a place within the greater surroundings of its environment. Every organism is destroyed by its own success, it chokes itself out by proliferating itself into grade and abundance. we need to keep this in mind right now at this point of civilization transition if we have the capacity to find a new challenge, perhaps repairing our planet from an environmental standpoint we have a chance to synthetically put pressure on ourselves as a species and therefore reignite our own evolutionary process to become further aligned with the rest of lifekeep up the good
I studied about ibn khaliduns concept in my high school. about the raise and fall of the state. It was so true and beautufully stated. I remember we studied too about ibn sina
Absolutely fascinating. Never got the chance to read any of this great thinker's work. (Typical Western academic prejudice so often tells you that there are no other philosophy and literature worthy of consideration besides *Western* philosophy and literature.) Are there any good English translations of his work?
Since Ibn Khaldoun wrote his book in my country Algeria, I was surprised that we have never read his books even though some of his observations covered our social structures back then
@@sayborg2344 In 1375, Ibn Khaldūn sought refuge with the tribe of Awlād ʿArīf, who lodged him and his family in the safety of a castle, Qalʿat ibn Salāmah, near what is now the town of Frenda, Algeria. Which dynasty? The Zayyanid dynasty
@@sayborg2344 I don't think it was small. Maybe not as big as its neighbors at the time. But it was definitely not small. At that time the names were not Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco, there were the names of the ruling dynasties. It was crazy back then. Imagine that the ruling dynasty in today's Morocco was the Marinid dynasty originated from Zeb Biskra located in the south east of modern day Algeria. In fact Marinid and Zayyanid were cousins
Societies built on power, conquest and violence are doomed to face resistence and opposition from oppressed groups. Societies that aim to thrive but also stabalize must do so in a sustainable way that benefits all of humanity and the environment as well.
Thank you for this content. I had a friend explain this cyclical nature of civilisations to me but his explanation was too shallow and missed a lot of the insights that you conveyed. Great video.
Yes that is it. It's not a matter of just knowing but living it which is the most difficult. It will always be the solidarity in the heart of those people working on it that will solidify and temper the real essence of that end.
Interesting and felt as if I didn’t waste my time watching. The relationship between United States and China over past 50 years finally started to make sense. Thanks
I mean he lived in andalusia the muslims there were getting lazy and living nice arguing about philosophy while the christians were ready to die in battle and lived in hardship.
@@zuhasbekillin3461You make it sound like philosophy was a mistake. No. The Muslims were busy killings themselves and aiding other Christians over their own kin. Hence the fall of Andalusia.
Wow, am proud of myself!! I thought of this deeply & came to some of his conclusions.. Very interesting.. All we need is to observe & think. I really have to read this famous masterpiece. I heard about it several times, & have it on my list, but I didn't know he talked about this point..
Is a black cow the opposite of a white cow? No. Both are cows. Black people and white people are not opposites, just different. Men and women are not opposites but different. We need to focus on our similarities, not differences.
Men and women are very different. A Black Man and a White man only have 1 difference in 1000 genes. But a women has more difference compared to even her own brother. What I am trying to say is you can make cows live the same way but you can’t make a man and a women have the same rights.
Oh please tell us how the different cow breeds are actually not different at all. How the red Brahmin is not at all different to highland cow.... I'm anxiously awaiting to know why one ethnicity is more inclined towards athleticism while another is built for endurance. Oh that's right they are different after all....
as an Arab who studied and lived abroad for a number of years i can say one thing we might look different from each other but we are still living life almost identical to each other just a change in environment. "you cant connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards" with experiences the picture will be clearer and more easy to understand what makes people act certain way vs others
UK are not excluded from the rule of ""Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” Ibn Khaldun
"ati sarvatra varjayet" Sanskrit saying. But the group dynamics dominates with cyclical view you mentioned. It is perhaps Nature's Law. Nice script work. Kudos!!!!
In THE ALEXANDRIAN QUARTET, Durrell searches out through the entire quartet how place is the fundament; we who live 'there' are the soil and air of it merely. Our individualities are as shaped by the forces of that land as is the topography. Our rise and fall 'there' is geological; great mountains are formed and erode, so the same with peoples. It haunts as an idea, and certainly contributes enticingly to the the thoughts of this sage (of many names). Thank you for encouraging a conversation on such a vast topic.
“culture” is just a collection of solutions that worked to assure a society’s survival and thriving, in its accumulated history. that’s why it’s strongly correlated with what kind of environment the culture evolved in, and the historical pressures it had survived - because what became coded in what we call “culture” had helped them survive it. rather than judge what’s “higher” and “lower” as if there’s a hierarchy or linear progression, we should have the insight to understand that different cultures contain the “DNA” that can help humans through different struggles, and then we can appreciate all of them because at the scale of millennia, as civilisations rise and collapse, one day we might want to know how to face a struggle new to us, but not new to another culture who once survived something like it in a time perhaps only barely remembered.
it's almost comical how strong civilizations stand on the wisdom of the collapsed previous civilizations if you think about it. I've traveled around, to russia and other western countries. i was always surprised of how many examples are taken from the arabic or islamic culture, the culture i know most about, when it was in it's peak, and had something to offer. And often times ppl who speak up such great lines have which were taken from a new modern scholar , a scholar who have taken rhat wisdom from the older advanced civilizations"at the time" and carried the torch. If there is anything to take from all what i am saying here, it would be the simple fact that often our wisdom is shared and mixed with all our roots, yet our ego is boosted by it. And that ego takes a form of false pride in our kin rather in our hunanuty creating false differences. But if wisdom is tracked to it's origin and roots, i am certain it would humble us knowing we were all part of the total structure and we are all relying on each other's past, to move forward.
As we can see , the Relation (possiby Asabiyyah in Ibn Khaldu view) is the only Creator in the Univers. It creates new Properties that we can not find in any individual participants, a new kind of Intelligence among those properties .
Isn't it interesting that he feels the need to make such comments? A reflection of the times - because he's probably right. Such comments are necessary.
There is no need to comment on what the author of the video says. As author and our belief in Freedom of Speech, he is entitled to interpret what he studies in any way he likes. You can present a rational argument to the actual content he speaks, but not his method of presentation, nor his own emotional reactions. I had not heard of this ancient wise man - so my sincere thanks for waking me up to his work, which I will now seek out.
@@pamelastorer8570 Apparently you are missing the point of the comment, namely that the author is trying to make "apologies" for the great thinker of the past. And that is very characteristic of our current academics in general... and totally unnecessary.
LOL LOL LOL only because of the leaders and authorities? GEESH you are the problem dude, it is IGNORANCE NOT OWNING UP TO THE BULLSHIT WE ALL BRING TO THE TABLE for discussion .... U R clueless IF you believe all problems are due to forces outside of you
I have a slightly different way of describing Asabiyyah. That it is likened to a foundational myth that each culture and kingdom/empire has at its birth. Of course, besides the physical/geographical circumstances needed for a society to succeed, there must be such myths that catch the imaginative, psychic drive/energy of a people. This conviction drive is harnessed in all kingdom/empire-building projects (in their creative cultural projects & empire expansion). It provides a cosmology (one's place and purpose within the world and universe) and maintains and justifies a social order (provides morals/ethics & a ruling hierarchy). I think your commentary adds to this by suggesting such myths are laid and resonate earlier in the process with common life's struggles by various peoples. I think this psychic energy eventually wanes as the original shared impulse and spirit are lost with time. Societies fracture and geographies and climates change. We become soft.
Thank you! It’s inspiring and instructive. I have a question: how’s promoting these espectacular audio lessons? The narration is a person’s voice or AI generated?
I really enjoyed watching the video. I just have a friendly suggestion, that might come useful to you. What if you incorporated more media in videos such as these, and display them more frequently while you are narrating the content? It might add more quality to your videos and grab more viewers.
'While Europe slumbered through the Dark Ages'. This dismissive assertion reveals a profound ignorance of the variety and sophistication of European culture.
❤❤❤ THANK YOU SIR, INDEED, THE EXCESS & WORLDLY TRAPPINGS OF SUCCESS CAN BE THE "GERMINATING" FACTOR TO THE DETERIORATION & DECAY. GOD BLESS YOU DEAR SIR, MAY GODLY WISDOM LIGHT & GUIDE.
Much of this I see as true. The UK has good, very diverse and also accesible mineral resources. But before you even get to using them, survival in the UK has certain requirements. The climate is good for growing crops during the summer. But you must get your act together, and prepare for the cold damp winters which will kill without adequate shelter and some degree of planning. IMO this all encourages work discipline and innovation.
Takeaway? Nomadic tribes in middle-ages had to fight for survival, hence they had stronger social bonds than civilizations whose survival was better secured. It was waste of time. Good you have found your interest tho.
The melding between common peoples called Assadeyah [sp???] on it's own will always have one failing, if it doesnt not acknowledge that in this Universe of duality, everything has it's opposite value. Thus, as we have hours of daylight, work, productivity, we must have hours of darkness, of rest and reflection. And as we have good, we have evil. But we need to define the good and the evil, and then learn how to protect ourselves from the evil, and what we must put in place to foster and grow the good. Just as we learn what a plant needs to grow well, be it, perhaps, dry ground with moderate rain, and if so, we thus do not plant in marshy ground, so we need to know what it is of good and evil in a human being, and the society they are a part of, to know what to protect and grow and what to eliminate and destroy; as we pull seeds from the ground we grow our food in, we must remove and nullify the evil in those who would destroy our society.. And this is the failing all societies have had so far. They have not learned how to define, recognise and remove, the seeds of evil.
The word عصبية "Asabiya" derives from عصب "Asab" which translates into nerve. Imagine the group as one body. When a nerve is hit, the whole body gets shaken. And THAT's what Asabiya is
His views on the cyclic rise and fall of societies were echoed by Giambatista Vico, Oswald Spengler, and Arnold Toynbee. (Toynbee explicitly acknowledged his debt to Ibn Khaldun.) Probably there have been plenty of other historians who have had similar ideas.
This video begins in a very untruthful way... The milddle ages lasted more than 800 years and most of them were of great progress... The University System, with more tham 80 Universities all across Europe, from Portugal to the Czeck Republic... From UK to Italy... and most of those 80 exist until today... No! No! No! The Middle Ages had its fine centuries also...
European medievale/middleage ... was dominated by destructive inquisition ... and the arabic world was far ahead ... now its sunken into dogmatism like europe 500 years ago ... but Khaldun, Macchiavli, Kopernicus pointed the right way ... the rulers are ignoring these fundamentals -> scum rules the world ... Buddha, Konfuzius, Mohamed, Jesus, Voltaire, Gandi and Popper would cry for revolution ...
Yes, that's true. A lot of people don't realize that the 'Dark Ages' was not all dark. There were great points of light if you have the time to study history.
@@Sapwolf The term "Dark Ages" refers only to the fact that we know little of them, and more written works to illuminate us are available from what we call the Middle Ages. No one is saying there were no Universities, learning, etc. Just that we have not managed to retain much of the written word and the history in detail, is all. For example, I have a copy of the Four Books of Cymru - [English Wales], in which it is detailed that we drove "the last of Gaelic people from our coast line of the land of Cymru and drove them over the sea to the Island there". Yet still, today, because this was 2000 yrs ago, people refer to the Irish and Scots as Celts. They arent. They are Gaels, where they are not now English. Only the Welsh are true Celts. But the information is from the so called Dark AGes, and hardly anyone is aware these days.
Yeah sure 😂 bible Cleansing From Defiling Skin Diseases 14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease,[a] 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.
The first universities in history are Al Zaitouna in Tunisia and Al Quarawe'in in Morocco founded by Fatima Al Fehri a pious Muslim woman...of course there was scientific progress in Europe but it was far slower and mostly based on going to study in Muslim universities. Now it's the opposite as prophecised by the last prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him and that's ok we will be back in she Allah
Very appropriate for these modern times we all share. We've been ever so greedy, insincere and treacherous, and it's simple finally caught up with us. We couldn't even have the most basic equal human rights for all.
I'm going to argue with the premise. My argument is that while a group struggles to exist until it is comfortable, it might be learning/enshrining the wrong lessons. They might cling to values that temporarily gave them success but ultimately destroy them. Like Israel's assumption that they have to destroy all indigenous people. Did anybody notice the artist trick of making you think that the eyes are closed when you first look and then they're open when you look again. Freaky.
It takes decades to move from tolerance > acceptance > celebration, but once homosexuality is celebrated in a society, history teaches us that that’s one of the causes of major societal chaos.
If you look at all this coldly, a society as an organism then, indeed, homosexuality is a kind of cancer that affects an older organism to grow an rejuvenate. So is any mechanism that affects the basic fabric of family and relationships such as alienation, isolation through pandering to base instincts and hedonism, individuality, materialism...
What a load of bullshit. You are born homoseksuel. Its not something that affects other people. Its funny how the most backward and poor countries in the world is also the most religious. And the most religious countries is also the ones with low tolerance toward other people. My theory is that its because that poor, weak and stupid people need someone to blame for their own failure and stupidity.
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His full name is (AbduRahman Ibn Mohammad Ibn Khaldoon) meaning (AbduRahman son of Mohammad son of Khaldoon) so basically when you're referring to him by just "Khaldoon" you're calling him by his grandparent's name.
Al-Moqadema is the abstract or introduction before any research, Ibn Khaldoon's introduction was so big and so detailed that people mistake it for the actual book. The encyclopedia he wrote was 8 books long the last one of them is the table of contents the first is the "introduction/moqademah" that's everyone is talking about.
The encyclopedia's name is "Ketab Al-Ebar" that translate "the book of (lessons)" as there's no English word I'm aware of for the Arabic word Ebar that means something deeper than a lesson and more like some kind of teaching that you'd (comprehend) rather than (learn).
Glad that someone finally pointed this out, as most people underestimate his literature heritage and his genius, as they think his "Muqaddima" is his greatest work, when it's only the Introduction of his larger massive work "Kitab al-ʿIbar".
Channel owner got cooked and all he did was heart the message. 😂
@@ViVeriVniversvmVivusVici Bro. Respectfully, shut thefk up. Nothing wrong with what the channel owner doing.
Was he muslim?
@CTzons Yes, he was a Muslim.
Glad that people are beginning to recognize this brilliant thinker!
i heard they study him in Harvard
He is pretty well studied in the Arab world.
Only thinkers I recognize are:
Western and Chinese (Ancient China)
@@Tethloach1 Good for you.
@@Tethloach1 3asba lik w lihom
Bottom line, anything to excess will destroy you.
Wall St and the corporate world need to understand this, unfettered capitalism is a cancer on the human species.
that's why you have to share excess. too much of anything is bad.
@125discipline2 great observation! Now if we can just groom society to differentiate between excess and propaganda, all will be hunky dory.
@@dvoiceotruthis that an accurate translation?
too much restriction cause outbreak
too much freedom cause chaos
How to recognize a decaying civilization:
1. Disparity of wealth (economy)
2. Hatred against lower class not limited to ethnicity, religion, migrants, etc. (Social cohesion)
3. Deaths of scholars/scholarly works (anti-progress of knowledge/sciences)
4. Rise of calamity businesses such as war/conquest, life/death, food/famine (fueled by previous ranks)
5. Constant babbling about 'democracy, and 6. Elite looting of the Tax base
Sounds like America
@@DaveHawthorne-lk9mz i guess the point number 5 and 6 could be counted as number 4 as ideology often used as a tool to mobilize manpower for warfare. Moreso now that warfare or rather the mass production of armaments become the interest of the elite politician of the top nation
Hatred against "migrants" lead to the collapse of civilization?
Talk about poisoned pill, jeez dude.
disconnection of ruling classes from reality, moral standards and instinctive behaviours of human kind , blind greed, will cause civilization to collapse ?
Ibn Khaldun stands as a towering figure in the annals of intellectual history. His *Muqaddimah* is a masterpiece of historical and social analysis that transcends its time, offering groundbreaking theories on the dynamics of civilizations, social cohesion, and economic development. His profound insights into the nature of human societies and his innovative methodologies have earned him a place among the greatest thinkers of all time. Ibn Khaldun’s visionary contributions have shaped the fields of sociology, historiography, and economics, making his work not only a cornerstone of Islamic scholarship but a universal beacon of intellectual brilliance.
Are there any translations available by muslim scholars?
Idk about his impact on sociology, if only cause two sociology classes HS and college level, and no one ever mentioned him or his work. But my HS teacher failed me. Said I was being lazy w my answers. I copied from the smart kids, w my own words 😂
@@camouflage962 yes of course. I think this a book that all presidents and high intellectuals read. But they dont talk about it, guess why...
If you don't know about his impact, then why won't you search about it? Acting smart doesn't make you one.
@@camouflage962 It's already translated to many languages. Assuming that you are willing to go through hundreds of pages to read it.
This was a wise guy. Very few reach this wide comprehension of societies throughout history.
ابن خلدون... جبل ليس مثيل له🖐
He recognized, like most Muslim scientists using the Quran, that everything has laws. Even societies have fixed laws. Much like the physical world, there are action and reaction, inertia, causality, periodic events...
@@samimas4343"using the Koran" 😅 really?
@@sagn1962no, ibn khaldun was not a very religious man (though he was a believer)
Yes using the quran @sagn1962
الأيام الصعبة تُخرج رجالا أقوياء، والرجال الأقوياء يصنعون الرخاء، والرخاء يُخرج رجالا ضعفاء، والرجال الضعفاء يتسببون بأيام صعبة" ابن خلدون
Michael G Hopf must have copied from Ibn Khaldoun when he said:
"Hard times create strong men; strong men create good times; good times create weak men; weak men create bad times."
old saying ...."the strength of an army is seen by the thinness of the potatoes peels"
and .............."the worst the food the more ferocious the warriors "
It was Ibn Khaldun that said that? wow
@@zer-atop3032 the supremely wise men just state the bloody obvious
لهذا السبب لازم الرجال ابدا مايرتاحون، لو الصبيان اشتغلوا من سن بلوغهم بدل لعب البلايستيشن كان وصلوا لين الجامعة وهم مجمعين ثمن مهر، الحين تحصل رجال طول وعرض وشنب من بلد أمن وأمان واقتصاد ويشتكون من كل شي وبالمقابل تحصل شباب مراهقين يتزوجون ويخلفون بدول فقيرة جدا، اتخيل بس لو الدول الغنية ما أعطت لشبابها فرصة بالرخاء، بتكون أقوى من جميع النواحي، السمنة والكسل بيقل والمال والخلفة بيزدادون
الراحة خطر، حتى صرنا نشوف شباب يتشبهون بالنساء والسبب يرجع لها، الحضارات ماتحتاج مجاعة وحروب عشان تتفادى هذي النتيجة
My brother had a simpler explanation. He said it took 3 generations to make a 'gentleman'. The first to fight to create the wealth, the second to trade and consolidate wealth and the third produced an educated 'gentleman', who lost all the wealth.
@@bunyip5841 Bismarck said, the first creates the foundation, the second expands, the third preserves, the fourth gambles it away, the fifth studies history of arts and decays in misery.
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 That's right. It is attributed to Bismarck. My brother's observation reflected our own experience growing up in a post colonial society where the decline among the remaining colonials was as apparent as it was rapid.
@@bunyip5841 Well I believe, success needs hard work but also luck and favorable times. I grew up in Central Europe (Austria ) and there individual success was unterrupted two times. Real stability which made planning possible did not develop before 1950.
This is assuming families are only 3 or 4 generations. Families are thousands of generations. This pattern is pretentious. It can be said that spoilt parents will traumatise their child, who will raise spoilt children. I can see that on a superficial level. But unless you are talking about the pattern of migrants, I can’t see it.
Like the rest of the natural world, humanity is a restless, wondering, adaptable species seeking out temporary havens in a forever-changing world where we may survive and flourish. There is no end to this struggle so gentlemen maybe a temporary, hopefully reoccurring phenomenon.
Without exageration, AL Mukaddima (prologue or introduction to his other masterpiece : the universal history or / the book of examples) of Ibn Khaldoun is one of the most interesting books (if not the best) dealing with history, politics, sociology, culture, art, economy and many other civilization-related topics. The main question he attempted to address was how and why civilizations rise and fall. The most interesting aspect of his reflexions is the introduction of the notion of causality. Some analysis he developed and which are still valid until today: the to-do and not-to-do regarding taxation, the basic rules of hiring people, how and why professions/jobs do prosper, some rules of market competition.
The man was Born in modern day Tunisia. He lived in Tunis, Algeria, morocco and Egypt among others. He had many highs and lows in his life, served many kings of his time and lived with Tamerlan for a short period.
Al Mukaddima can be found on the net in many languages. However, in order to better grasp the content one needs to have some basic knowledge of the history of the Muslim world and its mechanics. If you are to read it, read it slowly and thoughtfully; and if you can, read it more than once.
Very relevant concepts for our decadent and troubled times.
Thank you ! Glad you found it useful
@@philosopheasy- Ibn Khaldun was expertly developing the Qur'anic thesis explaining the rise and fall of peoples based on their moral and ethical probity; that civilisations evolve according to how well and badly the institution of justice in that society is effected. The normalisation of immorality resulting in inevitable injustice marking the decline and fall of such societies.
I believe a decline in Asabiyah leads to more and more people in society feeling more and more lonely and lost.
In Islamic countries you have that because of the Shahada. Everything else a blind delusional illusion
The modern state killed it
I guess capitalism leads to individualism, for the good and the bad.
Hard times - strong men - good times - weak men - hard times. Even the latest generation youth knows. Hard times is coming.
How about this instead?
Our hard times = their good times = jealousy, war. Conquest = our good times = their hard times = jealousy.
Circle if life
I enjoy how half the population is left out of this conversation
You forgot: give women authority without responsibility and destruction soon follows
So you're one of those soft men?
Fallacy. Compounding failure upon failure, denying responsibility and shifting blame.
a true genius ! light years ahead of his time !
Fine video on a much ignored genius. His observations stand today, 700 years later- that hardship breeds cooperation, that diversity is needed for societies to survive hard times. That comfort breeds laziness. That shared identity trumps individual rights. Liberal democracy is in trouble, partly because we valorise individual rights and individual freedom over leading a good life, which involves treating others respectfully. Let's hope more people listen to Ibn Khaldun's observations. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I read his Muqadima, you have done a great work consolidating Ibn khaldoun’s philosophy
I remember as a kid my father bought me the Muqadimah, which was a thick book that weights like 5kg
i read a bit of it in my childhood, and i remember the stereotypes about tribes, arabs and blacks and nordics
but what was mind blowing was what he said about taxation and how it affects the economy and rise and fall of a civilization and how it's influenced by the social and cultural status of the ruling class, corruption waste money and thus taxation become heavy and complicated, and it push people to bribes and thus it create a class of people who only feed on illicite acitivities and thus ruin the culture and morals of the civilization and cause it's decadence.
sciences originally Arabic and when u graduate university u dress Arab robe and tarbin because the first university in the world in North Africa morrocco
Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406) was a prominent 14th-century Tunisian scholar, historian, and philosopher who made groundbreaking contributions to the fields of sociology, economics, political theory, and historiography. He is considered a forerunner of modern social sciences and a key figure in the philosophy of history.
Key Concepts and Theories:
* 'Asabiyyah: Ibn Khaldun's concept of social cohesion and group solidarity, which he saw as the driving force behind the rise and fall of civilizations.
* Cyclical view of history: Ibn Khaldun believed that societies and states go through a cycle of rise, peak, and eventual decline, driven by changes in 'asabiyyah.
* Importance of crafts and skills: He emphasized the mastery of crafts, habits, and skills as crucial for the development and progress of societies.
* Role of religion: Ibn Khaldun believed that religion plays a vital role in guiding individuals and communities towards ethical conduct and righteous behavior.
* Empirical approach to history: He advocated for a critical and analytical method for understanding history, focusing on social, economic, and cultural factors.
How can he be a Tunisian as it did not exist as a country at the time?
@FM-vo8pb When Ibn Khaldun lived in Tunisia, it was known as Ifriqiya (The term evolved from the Roman "Province of Africa," which was later arabized to "Ifriqiya." Over time, "Ifriqiya" came to refer to the entire continent, leading to the modern term "Africa" that is used today.) This term referred to the region encompassing modern-day Tunisia, under the rule of the Hafsid dynasty during his lifetime (1332-1406)
@@FM-vo8pb"ifriqiya" the name of Tunisia before in the ancient world (the name of the continent of Africa come from the name "ifriqia" the ancient name of the country Tunisia today)
Ibn khaldoun from "ifriqya", born in "ifriqya" (the ancient name of Tunisia)
Small addition, Tunis as a town exists at his time and even long time before that.
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"hard times create hard men, hard men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men bring forward hard times", and the wheel keeps turning. The decline of the US nowadays should serve as a good example
Completely incorrect. A cancer casuses unhealthiness or death. A treatment or a heathly lifestyle leads to quality living. If you believe otherwise, try to live the worst lifestyle as possible and see what happens
This is not a wheel turning but more like a roller coaster in reverse..If you hadn't noticed each civilisation gets more advanced than the last..This circle of life nonsense is contradicted by an ever expanding universe,holds India back today,didn't help the Aztecs and is totally counter to evolutionary biology or we would have gone back to being monkeys by now !
Someone commented some other video (about China and how Chinese history had examples of similar decay as USA has today) in this way: "Professor Lu studied the dynastic dynamics of various dynasties to see patterns. He said most dynasties started as peasant rebellions with some socialist ideas of primitive equality. As societies mature and become richer, corruption breeds on itself, inequality becomes more widespread, any attempt to reform the system is doomed by the special interests, decadence piles on decadence until another rebellion cleanses itself."
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I myself am from nomadic culture. I see that those who call themselves "civilized" usually see themselves as better people than rest of us, and that is how every genocide is done by "civilized people", and not by those who are not seen as one. Germany, Britain, France, Israel,... Ultimate crimes, like genocide or colonialism needs idea that you are above others, not equal with them. So, "civilized people" are the most dangerous people in my eyes.
Ibn Khaldoun wrote العصبية في المقدمة... because he witnessed it happening in front of him. He was forced to leave Lisbon - Andalusia. When he visited his home...i was told that...the Protogese king offered him... his home and lands back... but he did not take them.
I feel we are going through this in America.... Ibn Khaldoun RIP❤.... I read المقدمة wheb i was a child... it affected me so much
We can also witness a lot of collapses. Buy popcorn.
@@gendalfgray7889 Bro... i am not engoying this at all 😭
اللّه يرحمه
You are
He wasn't from Lisbon, he was from Sevilla in Spain
Explanation you have provided for 'asabia' is somehow more better and relevant to the entire research you have made to describe his objective of understanding the nature and character of the people, there rise and fall as their asabia remains intact or lose connection with its roots. Good work. Thanks a lot for introducing him through this platform.
Thank you!
Some may say he is the father of sociology
Everyone outside of NATO
I read his مقدمة he was a brilliant sociologist and I fear my words alone wont give him justice. Im so proud of being from the same pioneering nation that it once was. Ironically, Ibn Khaldun wrote about the demise of society in Tunisia back in the 14th century. I wonder what he'd say about it today during the 21st century.
Ibn Khaldun stands together with Machiavelli and Sun Tzu. An early sociologue describing the patterns of power politics and of the foundation of states.
Machiavellian attitudes is only short term gains. Trust (following rules and procedures protecting everyone’s rights) Reliability (competency and integrity) is was what really mattered. If a ruler can keep that he very likely to be in power for life unless he retires.
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 Machiavelli, Ibn Khaldun and Sun Tzu described reality, not wishful dreams. Machiavellis writings were forbidden by the church, because Elites did not want, that the people know, how they are ruled. Beside, what is not known today, Machiavelli was an early admirer of states ruled as a republic. That was revolutionary in his time. When you read his "discorsi" you will recognize that.
@@schurlbirkenbach1995 The best leader is Prophet Muhammad peace be upun him and the Meccan Elite could not overcome him
@@randomlygeneratedname7171lol 😂
Your brief presentation has provided an impetus for me to organise my thoughts around this subject; a prerequisite & indispensable precursor to social cohesion.
It seems that; for any social groupings to be sustainable or remain cohesive, survival of all within those groupings must be conditioned by an intrinsic determination to ensure survival of individual members within them. Because as your presentation indicates, wealth, urbanisation & other forms of social stratification, classicism & individualism, lead to, or bring about, fluidity & atomisation of social groupings & eventually lead to total disintegration.
Until your presentation, I had struggled to express this concept in a logical manner.
A big & a heartfelt thank-you to you.
Amazing futuristic thinker ,we are still need his books to discuss matters today.
I am very happy that you eloquently presented ibn Khaldoun's concepts. This genius is largely an unacknowledged scholar outside the academia in the public sphere, although the foundations of modern understanding of economics, sociology, anthropology, political science and history derive from his observations.
I lived the past 15 years with vthe Bedouins and oh my God so many things to learn, and I reached to a lot of similar conclusions with Ibn Khaldoon, to begin with they really don't care about us and there are different species, because they're so freaking rich. and by Rich in Arabic means that you don't really need someone else, this is with rich literally means so of course having money means that you don't need people that much but b really so freaking rich their life is so freaking fulfilling I had many things to share later go to sleep now
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Should have spent those years in mental hospital
pls do... pls share... important to be told
One of the main futuristic works of Ebn Khaldoon that he was written is what it's like when Bedouins want to build the kingdom?
and it's literally how it happened,
so he says that according to the Bedouin culture who is based on survival and tribal mentality that contradicts with the concept of civilisation itself,
in civilized society you choose the most intelligent and capable,
while in tribal Society is you just continue on the bloodline,
so he says this Kingdom will be corrupted and will go to collapse and it is my country.
and here is the conditions that even Ibn khaldoon himself wrote 700 years ago,
first because beduina love for power so much they won't accept any Authority other than religious Authority, that's a descendant from the prophet,
so this is the first condition,
the second condition was when the King give lands and jobs for the tribe leaders and their kids environmental jobs in the army but even with that the King has to bring a third party as Royal Guards so that's why the royal guards in my country are definitely not bad winds because they can't be trusted for their love of power.
And eventually the king won't have enough money to keep those tribe leaders happy and corruption will bring the country down.
Back to the bedrooms they really live a very fulfilling lives and since Babylon started they still refused to join and leave the nomadic life so basically with their goats Andres nomadic life the really so much fulfilled and the tribal gatherings and Customs make their lives so much socially fulfilling and whatever modern governments trying to convince Bedouin to leave their freedom they simply refuse and according to recent studies were many rich people in the west have this Gap in their life one of the solutions is to do these primitive things that these Bedouin celebrating every day which is for example making tables or drinking water or like spending the day doing these primitive things is one way to happiness so that's one of the main reasons that bed wins when won't leave that life and also recently because they're working also in tourism so they have also another source of money rather than just the goats.
Like if you want to hear one joke like a Bedouin kid who suffers from autism that's a joke they are always surrounded by their brothers or their cousins and already have a lot of traditions and and Gatherings and guests.
And by the way I come from Bedouin Origins so we still share some of these Traditions but my dad made it from being a farmer to the educated and live in the city but I think he f***** up that's why I went back and started to live with Beduins, more but I still enjoy the privilege of the technological life.
Wow! I have heard and read blurbs about Khaldun, but this really opened my eyes to many new ideas. Common sense I already knew but had not heard so well explained.
Thank you, glad that you found it informative and useful :)
Really enjoyed this summary of Khaldun!
Thank you :)
Thank you for this. As a regenerative farmer, this rings true on every level not only for civilizations but for people and for plants and ecosystems and animals. Evolution is the process by which an organism responds to external pressures when you remove those pressures the process of evolution is arrested and ultimately that organism Becomes separate from its surroundings, unless able to adapt. Survival of the fittest is a concept which talks not about strength, but about an organisms ability to have a place within the greater surroundings of its environment. Every organism is destroyed by its own success, it chokes itself out by proliferating itself into grade and abundance. we need to keep this in mind right now at this point of civilization transition if we have the capacity to find a new challenge, perhaps repairing our planet from an environmental standpoint we have a chance to synthetically put pressure on ourselves as a species and therefore reignite our own evolutionary process to become further aligned with the rest of lifekeep up the good
Why didn't they teach us about this in our schools?
Cause it's outdated
@@begumhasina1052 not at all, the west is still learning from their wisdom.
@@dr3am3r2 do mean the school is teaching them or the internet
@@begumhasina1052 their educational institutes from schools to university level
I studied about ibn khaliduns concept in my high school. about the raise and fall of the state. It was so true and beautufully stated. I remember we studied too about ibn sina
Absolutely fascinating. Never got the chance to read any of this great thinker's work. (Typical Western academic prejudice so often tells you that there are no other philosophy and literature worthy of consideration besides *Western* philosophy and literature.) Are there any good English translations of his work?
basically Arnold Toynbee civilization on trial is an updated version of the book more or less
Yes. There are many more books from the Muslim scholars of that time which are worth reading.
His most famous work is the مقدمة or Introduction in English. Im not sure which versions exist in English, i only read it in its 'original' form.
Look for The Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History
@@dmeddah Thank you!
Since Ibn Khaldoun wrote his book in my country Algeria, I was surprised that we have never read his books even though some of his observations covered our social structures back then
what king or what dynasty ruled algeria back then?
@@sayborg2344 In 1375, Ibn Khaldūn sought refuge with the tribe of Awlād ʿArīf, who lodged him and his family in the safety of a castle, Qalʿat ibn Salāmah, near what is now the town of Frenda, Algeria. Which dynasty? The Zayyanid dynasty
@@sayborg2344 the Zayyanid dynasty
@@DragonDHunter the Kingdom of Tlemcen, a small kingdom between Tunisia and Morocco.. it's wild how north african history is not well known for us.
@@sayborg2344 I don't think it was small. Maybe not as big as its neighbors at the time. But it was definitely not small. At that time the names were not Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco, there were the names of the ruling dynasties. It was crazy back then. Imagine that the ruling dynasty in today's Morocco was the Marinid dynasty originated from Zeb Biskra located in the south east of modern day Algeria. In fact Marinid and Zayyanid were cousins
☘☘"Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” Ibn Khaldun 👌🏻
What an insight. He certainly called it.
So... yay?
it truly amazing that this thinker has such a profound insight I must read more about him sometime.
he is the father of social sciences .sociology.history.political science.economy
Very nicely summed up and delivered, well done 👍🏽
Societies built on power, conquest and violence are doomed to face resistence and opposition from oppressed groups. Societies that aim to thrive but also stabalize must do so in a sustainable way that benefits all of humanity and the environment as well.
Americans beg to differ
Yup probably an European after centuries of colonialism would think that way. May be he fears what he stole, might be stolen from him?
Thank you for this content. I had a friend explain this cyclical nature of civilisations to me but his explanation was too shallow and missed a lot of the insights that you conveyed. Great video.
Yes that is it. It's not a matter of just knowing but living it which is the most difficult. It will always be the solidarity in the heart of those people working on it that will solidify and temper the real essence of that end.
Brilliant and Thank you!. Many would have one think that there is no such thing as the Islamic contribution to scientific thought.
Yes very little contribution
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8 centuries of civilization can never be little.
Interesting and felt as if I didn’t waste my time watching. The relationship between United States and China over past 50 years finally started to make sense.
Thanks
Just brilliant. He wrote in the 14th century but it is perfect.
Precisely summarized where is the West heading to. It's about time to relocate.
I mean he lived in andalusia the muslims there were getting lazy and living nice arguing about philosophy while the christians were ready to die in battle and lived in hardship.
@@zuhasbekillin3461You make it sound like philosophy was a mistake. No. The Muslims were busy killings themselves and aiding other Christians over their own kin. Hence the fall of Andalusia.
Wow, am proud of myself!!
I thought of this deeply & came to some of his conclusions.. Very interesting..
All we need is to observe & think.
I really have to read this famous masterpiece.
I heard about it several times, & have it on my list, but I didn't know he talked about this point..
Great video about this great North African Arab sociology figure إبن خلدون
Historian Arnold Toynbee considered Ibn Khaldun as foundational to his modern theory of the rise and fall of civilizations.
Is a black cow the opposite of a white cow? No. Both are cows. Black people and white people are not opposites, just different. Men and women are not opposites but different. We need to focus on our similarities, not differences.
Men and women are very different. A Black Man and a White man only have 1 difference in 1000 genes. But a women has more difference compared to even her own brother. What I am trying to say is you can make cows live the same way but you can’t make a man and a women have the same rights.
Try telling that to Bob the Bilger and Rabbi Kookaburra.😂
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 What you are trying to say is nonsense.
Bla bla bla. There are HUGE differences. Just go look up what Ibn Khaldun said on black people. He compared them to "dumb animals".
Oh please tell us how the different cow breeds are actually not different at all. How the red Brahmin is not at all different to highland cow.... I'm anxiously awaiting to know why one ethnicity is more inclined towards athleticism while another is built for endurance.
Oh that's right they are different after all....
as an Arab who studied and lived abroad for a number of years i can say one thing we might look different from each other but we are still living life almost identical to each other just a change in environment. "you cant connect the dots looking forward, you can only connect them looking backwards" with experiences the picture will be clearer and more easy to understand what makes people act certain way vs others
I recommend you guys to read this book it's really ahead of it's time
UK has lost it's Asabiyah. Take note Douglas Murray.
Why don't you invite a human being????????
@@AhmedMushtaq-ux9wu let us invite Farage
UK are not excluded from the rule of ""Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” Ibn Khaldun
"ati sarvatra varjayet" Sanskrit saying. But the group dynamics dominates with cyclical view you mentioned. It is perhaps Nature's Law. Nice script work. Kudos!!!!
In THE ALEXANDRIAN QUARTET, Durrell searches out through the entire quartet how place is the fundament; we who live 'there' are the soil and air of it merely. Our individualities are as shaped by the forces of that land as is the topography. Our rise and fall 'there' is geological; great mountains are formed and erode, so the same with peoples. It haunts as an idea, and certainly contributes enticingly to the the thoughts of this sage (of many names). Thank you for encouraging a conversation on such a vast topic.
Along with complacency comes expectations. Expectations breeds hatred of the established order and it's failings.
“culture” is just a collection of solutions that worked to assure a society’s survival and thriving, in its accumulated history. that’s why it’s strongly correlated with what kind of environment the culture evolved in, and the historical pressures it had survived - because what became coded in what we call “culture” had helped them survive it. rather than judge what’s “higher” and “lower” as if there’s a hierarchy or linear progression, we should have the insight to understand that different cultures contain the “DNA” that can help humans through different struggles, and then we can appreciate all of them because at the scale of millennia, as civilisations rise and collapse, one day we might want to know how to face a struggle new to us, but not new to another culture who once survived something like it in a time perhaps only barely remembered.
Culture is simply an expression of how groups of people live. A word suitably vague, seized upon to capture imagination and sentiment.
it's almost comical how strong civilizations stand on the wisdom of the collapsed previous civilizations if you think about it. I've traveled around, to russia and other western countries. i was always surprised of how many examples are taken from the arabic or islamic culture, the culture i know most about, when it was in it's peak, and had something to offer. And often times ppl who speak up such great lines have which were taken from a new modern scholar , a scholar who have taken rhat wisdom from the older advanced civilizations"at the time" and carried the torch.
If there is anything to take from all what i am saying here, it would be the simple fact that often our wisdom is shared and mixed with all our roots, yet our ego is boosted by it. And that ego takes a form of false pride in our kin rather in our hunanuty creating false differences.
But if wisdom is tracked to it's origin and roots, i am certain it would humble us knowing we were all part of the total structure and we are all relying on each other's past, to move forward.
His Magnum opus 'al muqadimmah' or the 'introduction' is a seminal text from which many argue the field of sociology erupted
Ibn Khaldun was man kind Giant, humanity : since him, has not produced, nor it will produce like him !!!!
May his soul rest in Peace,
“History is filled with the sound of silken slippers going downstairs and wooden shoes coming up.” - Voltaire .
As we can see , the Relation (possiby Asabiyyah in Ibn Khaldu view) is the only Creator in the Univers. It creates new Properties that we can not find in any individual participants, a new kind of Intelligence among those properties .
Make a video on this book : "Digitalism vs. Capitalism" to explain how civilization dies.
excellent, thank you for sharing your ideas, you communicated in a succinct and effective manner. Cheers!
Very nicely explained 👍🙏
Thanks and welcome
a tunisian symbol that we are proud of 🇹🇳❤
To author: Khaldun do not need your apologies.
Isn't it interesting that he feels the need to make such comments? A reflection of the times - because he's probably right. Such comments are necessary.
The narrator believes he has to be "politically correct"...😎
There is no need to comment on what the author of the video says. As author and our belief in Freedom of Speech, he is entitled to interpret what he studies in any way he likes. You can present a rational argument to the actual content he speaks, but not his method of presentation, nor his own emotional reactions. I had not heard of this ancient wise man - so my sincere thanks for waking me up to his work, which I will now seek out.
@@pamelastorer8570 Apparently you are missing the point of the comment, namely that the author is trying to make "apologies" for the great thinker of the past. And that is very characteristic of our current academics in general... and totally unnecessary.
Who are you to talk for someone else.?
LOL
Funny
You should incorporate videos in it. Remember, we are here to watch...
I suspected as much but could not formulate or express it. Thank you !
God bless you, Brother. Amazing video ❤
When an Empire forgets how it got its power and wealth, that's the beginning of its end
Very relevant to our times.
"Abundance": it is the root cause of all the problems that follow.
Societies collapse because of terrible leaders and corrupt authorities.
LOL LOL LOL only because of the leaders and authorities? GEESH you are the problem dude, it is IGNORANCE NOT OWNING UP TO THE BULLSHIT WE ALL BRING TO THE TABLE for discussion .... U R clueless IF you believe all problems are due to forces outside of you
Most helpful for the present historic situation. No doubt a source of inspiration for Arnold Toynbee
I have a slightly different way of describing Asabiyyah. That it is likened to a foundational myth that each culture and kingdom/empire has at its birth. Of course, besides the physical/geographical circumstances needed for a society to succeed, there must be such myths that catch the imaginative, psychic drive/energy of a people. This conviction drive is harnessed in all kingdom/empire-building projects (in their creative cultural projects & empire expansion). It provides a cosmology (one's place and purpose within the world and universe) and maintains and justifies a social order (provides morals/ethics & a ruling hierarchy).
I think your commentary adds to this by suggesting such myths are laid and resonate earlier in the process with common life's struggles by various peoples.
I think this psychic energy eventually wanes as the original shared impulse and spirit are lost with time. Societies fracture and geographies and climates change. We become soft.
Thank you for this informative video on this great man and his thoughts
Welcome !
Thank you!
It’s inspiring and instructive.
I have a question: how’s promoting these espectacular audio lessons? The narration is a person’s voice or AI generated?
Thank you for this sharing!
I really enjoyed watching the video. I just have a friendly suggestion, that might come useful to you. What if you incorporated more media in videos such as these, and display them more frequently while you are narrating the content? It might add more quality to your videos and grab more viewers.
4:24 He Was An Arab Himself...
North African.
@@BlueB-bx6nhThat's Not A Race. Also It's Called The Arab Magrehb...
@@BlueB-bx6nhnorth African Arab
Great thinking, never heard about this wise man before.
Great Ibn Khaldun
DUNE. You did a wonderful job expressing these ideas.
'While Europe slumbered through the Dark Ages'.
This dismissive assertion reveals a profound ignorance of the variety and sophistication of European culture.
It was right during the inquisition kind of period you'd rather avoid
A culture of little tribes that breaks into war every 50 years. Perhaps russia should take over europe and save everybody some time?
@@tosamja117atrocities are being committed at all times in history.
Yeah, you have precisely identified the you tubers own use of stereotypes. you tube allows us to hear even more rubbish than we heard before.
Fool. European history is full of wars of Europeans fighting other Europeans!
This picture I saw as his eyes closed HA they are open but the art is so fine to depict it both ways perfectly.
❤❤❤ THANK YOU SIR, INDEED, THE EXCESS & WORLDLY TRAPPINGS OF SUCCESS CAN BE THE "GERMINATING" FACTOR TO THE DETERIORATION & DECAY. GOD BLESS YOU DEAR SIR, MAY GODLY WISDOM LIGHT & GUIDE.
It is for convenience and nothing last for ever ; laws of nature
There another genius from that part of the world and from the same era: Ibn Taymiyah, he was very misunderstood even among his people!
Much of this I see as true. The UK has good, very diverse and also accesible mineral resources. But before you even get to using them, survival in the UK has certain requirements. The climate is good for growing crops during the summer. But you must get your act together, and prepare for the cold damp winters which will kill without adequate shelter and some degree of planning. IMO this all encourages work discipline and innovation.
Immortality and the oppression of others.
Takeaway? Nomadic tribes in middle-ages had to fight for survival, hence they had stronger social bonds than civilizations whose survival was better secured.
It was waste of time. Good you have found your interest tho.
8:17 The good stuff
The melding between common peoples called Assadeyah [sp???] on it's own will always have one failing, if it doesnt not acknowledge that in this Universe of duality, everything has it's opposite value.
Thus, as we have hours of daylight, work, productivity, we must have hours of darkness, of rest and reflection. And as we have good, we have evil.
But we need to define the good and the evil, and then learn how to protect ourselves from the evil, and what we must put in place to foster and grow the good. Just as we learn what a plant needs to grow well, be it, perhaps, dry ground with moderate rain, and if so, we thus do not plant in marshy ground, so we need to know what it is of good and evil in a human being, and the society they are a part of, to know what to protect and grow and what to eliminate and destroy; as we pull seeds from the ground we grow our food in, we must remove and nullify the evil in those who would destroy our society..
And this is the failing all societies have had so far. They have not learned how to define, recognise and remove, the seeds of evil.
The word عصبية "Asabiya" derives from عصب "Asab" which translates into nerve.
Imagine the group as one body.
When a nerve is hit, the whole body gets shaken.
And THAT's what Asabiya is
His views on the cyclic rise and fall of societies were echoed by Giambatista Vico, Oswald Spengler, and Arnold Toynbee. (Toynbee explicitly acknowledged his debt to Ibn Khaldun.) Probably there have been plenty of other historians who have had similar ideas.
Well spoken and very fair
This video begins in a very untruthful way... The milddle ages lasted more than 800 years and most of them were of great progress... The University System, with more tham 80 Universities all across Europe, from Portugal to the Czeck Republic... From UK to Italy... and most of those 80 exist until today... No! No! No! The Middle Ages had its fine centuries also...
European medievale/middleage ... was dominated by destructive inquisition ... and the arabic world was far ahead ... now its sunken into dogmatism like europe 500 years ago ... but Khaldun, Macchiavli, Kopernicus pointed the right way ... the rulers are ignoring these fundamentals -> scum rules the world ...
Buddha, Konfuzius, Mohamed, Jesus, Voltaire, Gandi and Popper would cry for revolution ...
Yes, that's true. A lot of people don't realize that the 'Dark Ages' was not all dark. There were great points of light if you have the time to study history.
@@Sapwolf The term "Dark Ages" refers only to the fact that we know little of them, and more written works to illuminate us are available from what we call the Middle Ages. No one is saying there were no Universities, learning, etc. Just that we have not managed to retain much of the written word and the history in detail, is all. For example, I have a copy of the Four Books of Cymru - [English Wales], in which it is detailed that we drove "the last of Gaelic people from our coast line of the land of Cymru and drove them over the sea to the Island there". Yet still, today, because this was 2000 yrs ago, people refer to the Irish and Scots as Celts. They arent. They are Gaels, where they are not now English. Only the Welsh are true Celts. But the information is from the so called Dark AGes, and hardly anyone is aware these days.
Yeah sure 😂 bible Cleansing From Defiling Skin Diseases
14 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “These are the regulations for any diseased person at the time of their ceremonial cleansing, when they are brought to the priest: 3 The priest is to go outside the camp and examine them. If they have been healed of their defiling skin disease,[a] 4 the priest shall order that two live clean birds and some cedar wood, scarlet yarn and hyssop be brought for the person to be cleansed. 5 Then the priest shall order that one of the birds be killed over fresh water in a clay pot. 6 He is then to take the live bird and dip it, together with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, into the blood of the bird that was killed over the fresh water. 7 Seven times he shall sprinkle the one to be cleansed of the defiling disease, and then pronounce them clean. After that, he is to release the live bird in the open fields.
The first universities in history are Al Zaitouna in Tunisia and Al Quarawe'in in Morocco founded by Fatima Al Fehri a pious Muslim woman...of course there was scientific progress in Europe but it was far slower and mostly based on going to study in Muslim universities. Now it's the opposite as prophecised by the last prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him and that's ok we will be back in she Allah
Very appropriate for these modern times we all share. We've been ever so greedy, insincere and treacherous, and it's simple finally caught up with us. We couldn't even have the most basic equal human rights for all.
I'm going to argue with the premise. My argument is that while a group struggles to exist until it is comfortable, it might be learning/enshrining the wrong lessons. They might cling to values that temporarily gave them success but ultimately destroy them. Like Israel's assumption that they have to destroy all indigenous people.
Did anybody notice the artist trick of making you think that the eyes are closed when you first look and then they're open when you look again. Freaky.
Well, great parallel between city and naturistic life
It takes decades to move from tolerance > acceptance > celebration, but once homosexuality is celebrated in a society, history teaches us that that’s one of the causes of major societal chaos.
If you look at all this coldly, a society as an organism then, indeed, homosexuality is a kind of cancer that affects an older organism to grow an rejuvenate.
So is any mechanism that affects the basic fabric of family and relationships such as alienation, isolation through pandering to base instincts and hedonism, individuality, materialism...
What a load of bullshit. You are born homoseksuel. Its not something that affects other people.
Its funny how the most backward and poor countries in the world is also the most religious.
And the most religious countries is also the ones with low tolerance toward other people.
My theory is that its because that poor, weak and stupid people need someone to blame for their own failure and stupidity.