Is the F800GS better than the R1200GS?
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In this video we go over why the F800GS is better than the R1200GS. It's cheaper and better for offroad use! Most people would be just fine with the F800GS!
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My F800GS is from the year 2016, I bought it new in Mexico, I traveled with it in the summer of 2017 from Tecamac, State of Mexico to Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, round trip, not a single failure, only change of tires, brakes and the main chain in Fairbanks, AK, then I brought it from Mexico to Miami where I living, in Mexico I traveled all over the country, plains, mountains, highways, roads, north to south from east to west, it is an excellent motorcycle.
I’ve had one for 45.000km, I wouldn’t trade it for a 1200, nor an 850. This is one amazing bike, it will take you anywhere you want, specially here in South America. Best bike ever!!!
I have a r1200gs and want to trade for a f800gs. Although the f850gs has more power I like the f800gs more in appearance. Beautifull bike.
I agree, the 800 looks better and the 850 only has +5 hp
Wow. My first vehicle was a 1972 Yamaha 360 Enduro... This is MUCH NICER! All the bells and whistles. I'm 62 and could really dig this!
I have an f800gs. A few fun facts:
1) it was the lightest adventure bike before the tenere 700 and 790 adventure
2) it's still faster than both those bikes
3) the rotax twin is incredibly reliable. There are guys out there with over half a million kilometres on their engines with only basic maintenance
4) the stock suspension is garbage
The k1200lt has poor suspension from factory as well. A dry clutch that will burn out in days if you rev it over 2k on start...and the worst break lines ever put on a 900 pound bike. other than that and the prostate killing seat it is a great bike..
3. out here is where ? take a foto pls for half a million kilometer :)
@@jocekmester th-cam.com/video/c6TPWjaeJJs/w-d-xo.html
Ducati Hyperstrada Is lighter (400lb dry) and faster in not only 1/4 mile time (11.1 secs) but also 0-60 time (3.0 secs) than the BMW f800gs. But the BMW has a much more comfortable seat for long rides.
Heated grips warm your soul, amen brother . ;)
Get a car
Love my 2016 f800gs..does it all, the ultimate zombie apocalypse bike.
It's not what you riding but who you are, as a rider and how you ride your bike.
I've been riding an F800GS for a couple of years now, best bike I've owned.
I've had the 650 version of yours for 8 years, wouldn't change it for anything...
It is good also for long trip?
@@TBBEChris 5 years ago, I went from Florida to Alaska, down to central America and back to Florida ... About 35,000 miles over 3 months ... Lots of tires, oil changes and chains but the bike itself had no issues ...
@@timlubbers2884 What a trip!! Ok thanks
@@timlubbers2884 that is my dream! Is it an easy bike to do maintenance on, do you change your oil and chains yourself? I don’t have much experience working on bikes but I’d like to learn on this bike.
I had the r1150gsa and the the r1200gs and now I currently have the f800gs no regrets, the f800gs feels much lighter, with the gas tank on the back even make it feels lighter than it is also gives to the bike a great maneuverability
I have a 2017 800gsa and I love it. It’s such a great all around bike. Long distance I’ll angle my feet on the pegs in different positions and also extend and rest them on the front crash bars.
Whatever bike you demonstrate, I find myself wanting it! Then I realize that I have my perfect bike, BMW R1150R.
The ABS light stays on until after a few feet of the bike moving. Nothing is faulty it is simply running a on board test and once it deems all is good the light goes off. totally normal.
Its amazing to me how many people dont know that the reason all importsnt dashboard lights light up on bikes and cars during startup is so you csn check if the indicator bulb is busted. Because of the bulb is busted and the ABS fails, and you DONT KNOW, you migbt get FUCKED
yes, on my motorcycle abs light still on until you hit 10km/h for the first time after starting the engine
@@Tonyx.yt. that's the real reason. self-test happens on start-up. the abs-lamp flashing means the system is not activated. BOTH wheels need to be turning at 10kmh for the system to activate.
@@luuk341 did you know that only 10% of population is well educated...
Love my F800GS ridden it in 14 states and one Canadian Provence. Carries the wife and I no problem. Pretty good off road but when I'm serious about off road I take the TW200.
Used to have a 650gs 2015 and i love it, cant wait to get a 800 ur up so i ca ride again 😎
Excellent video. You’ve hit on a lot of topics gor the viewers to ponder. I would love to know the make of the windscreen on your tester. Is an optional BMW one or aftermarket? It looks more effective than the stock smaller one and it looks like it actually belongs on the bike unlike some aftermarket styles.
Yes I'd like to know what the make of the windscreen is as well thanks
I like how you get on the motorcycles a drive off in the beginning because it shows seating position.
I'm stay now riding f800gs for daily use... And off-road riding...♥️🇲🇾
My model 2010 30th anniversary GS...still now
I think you hit the proverbial nail squarely on the head when you compared the appeal of so-called Adventure bikes to that of Jeeps and similar Vehicles capable of going off road but which are seldom if ever taken there by their owners.
❤ the exhaust note (360° crank)!
Sweet bike. No wonder HD is going to make an adventure bike. Can't wait to see how it will compete with the BMW. I see a lot of the BMWs on the rode. Great for commuting.
they had the Ulysses
I'm pro America but light on/off road is not what HD does. I have doubts they will pull it off. It will be like Triumph's Adventure bike WAY TOO HEAVY.
gmcjetpilot the tiger 800 from triumph weighs 460 lbs., the tiger 800 xcx weighs 474 and the f800gs weighs 478.8. So its actually heaver than both 800cc triple cyclinder adventure bikes from triumph
It's great bike if you own only 1 bike. Its a little buzzy stock but put a slip on and power commander and it smoothes right out. A lot of people carry a spare 15 tooth front sprocket for off road use. 16 tooth is stock. Can be changed in 15 minutes or so . Turns it into wheelie machine.
Saving up for an adventure bike. They're the best
Nobody ever mentions the bmw f700gs. It’s the same 800 engine as the f800gs but more roadgoing. The 800 is like a 80/20 mix of off-road on-road. The 700 is the other way round like a 20/80. It handles better, as it’s lower and it’s easy to ride too.
Any idea how the f700gs suspension holds up with off road riding compared to the f800gs? For the average rider with intermediate riding skill, is it really necessary to buy the f800gs over the f700gs?
I loved my 700GS but my knees didnt. One 4 hour ride and I was convinced it wasn't for me. Put over 10,000 miles on her but had to sell. Fun bike didnt like the dirt much and I live on a sugar sand dirt road. Always got a little squirrelly.
Bill DeProspero I disagree. Seat height is the same as the R1250GS and they don’t say it’s for small people. And if you compare it to a lot of non adventure bikes then it’s actually high.
I think the 1250gs seat is wider, though.
My 2018 Ninja does the ABS thing. It's actually that the bike think the ABS is faulty until it receive a signal from the wheel sensors. So by default the light is on.
The ABS light stays on because it needs to do the initial test which it can only do while moving :) If its succesfull it turns off, if it fails it will stay on.
Hey! You should look into test riding a Janus.
thank you for the information. i own a 1995 bmw 1150rs tour bike. i am deciding between 650 dakar or 1200gs. after seeing your video and your honest opinion, i will more than likely get 800gs. thanks again for sharing your experiences. God bless you brother...in Christ, AIRBORNE !
Love adventure riding! Tore shit up with my triumph and I miss it everyday. I'd still have it if it weren't for my short wife and life changes to switch to another bike.
maybe put her in the tank backpack?
I was hoping for a lap on a motocross track.Send it Shawn! Or better yet make Caleb do it.
Hey .. what mark of upper crash bars you have on the white 800 gs ?!
I have 2011 800gs and I can't find those bars that installed as autonome parts and don't have to have lower bars to be installed on ..
thanks
If you really want to confuse everyone, the F650GS has an 800cc engine. And, you will never get used to those bassackwards signal lights. I just didn't use mine. They make a great seat upgrade for these too.
After 2013 proper signal switches instead.
I have the 97 Funduro that is a 650 , the first year in us
What a beautiful gorgeous Bike...👍😎🤝
If you have a chance to get a CB 500X do it. In my opinion this may be the best ADV out there. Lightweight with decent power, and it can keep up with traffic on the freeway. If you need more off road capability there are kits out there that are very good. It's kind of a open slate. Good show. Take care and be safe. Vaughn
Oh...CB 500X is for women and kids...
About the BMW 800 GS i disagree.
You can buy the road style.
Of you want to go off road you just change the tyres.
One thing you must have when you buy One, just ask for the chain and not the Axel shift.
Um saying this os because i have the 1200 GS and this os what i do.
All the best for.bykers.
Awesome bike! I have a 2015 F800GSA. I've put it through the ringer with trails in the Ozarks, street riding old Route 66 , gravel roads, fire roads, and it handles it all. It's way more capable than I am. Its rugged too, dropped probably 15 times at slow trail speeds, no damage. Never had one problem. I keep TKC 80s on it most of the time for max traction off road. Vibbs a little over 75 mps but its minimal. Id recommend it to anyone in the market for adventure.
How is it for 2 up riding? Is it a good commuter?
is 2015 f800 better than 2008 one?
Thank you.
Great video. But after owning both bikes, I would say that the R1200gs "feels" lighter than the f800gs or f850gs. Reason being, the weight sits lower.
Put both bikes next to each other, and lean each one over. Yes the r1200gs is wider and weighs more. But it's a serious competitor in terms of how the weight is distributed.
That being said I just bought another F800gs because of its width and price being less.
What year would you recommend for a first-timer in the ADV market? I'm looking at '11-'15 right now.
I couldn't agree more about the adventure bike segment. Sadly, the last chapter of the Longway Series, from the bottom of South America, into North America ending near Los Angeles....why is it sadly? They are using the Harley Davidson Live Wire....
Loove these bikes i wanna get one this year
You always forget to check the tire pressure before you take off. Do that.
Another awesome video
I love the f800gs
I know so many people that bought adventure bikes wanting to make a trip to Alaska and never did it. Then they turn around and sell them like this one.
You can stand up all day on Dyna's and sportsters and road kings and etc etc...not all Harley's are forward gear many are lots are mid..but yes this bike makes standing very simple even for beginners..
many are*....not many and lots are...damned predictive texts...proofread proofread proofread!
will be my next ride after honda transalp xl600v pd06
Mine is 10 years old.And now gets this EWs error #/^$/^.
Anybody can point me to a youtube adressing this issue?
What’s the bike like on road trips on road with the smaller engine does it struggle sitting at 70-75mph
Should I buy a 1200 gs lc or a f 800 gs adventure?
Ik AM waiting for the versys 400,....
Im looking at possibly buying a 2005 f 650 GSA with 34k. Can you give me your thoughts on this bike? I've had sport bikes and harleys, but the whole adventure bike class is new to me.
Had the same one. Excellent for beginner, you will overgrow it in a year or max two
I bought an F800GS four years ago, the best decision I've ever made. I have 50,000KM/30,000Miles mostly off-road and dropped the bike numerous times with zero issues so far.
I know this is a old video, but made me laugh with the standing part. I probably spend 60% of the time on my R1150GS standing just because I think it's fun
Amen ,Bro
What is the name of the black topbox? :)
I'm going to Perth Australia in early October this year. It will be a two week vacation. I would like your(and any others out there) recommendation on which bike to rent('hire' they call it there). Either a gs f800 or gs r1200. I'm going to rent for a week. Dollar wise, there is not much difference. For me, my experience is, I have a k1200lt 2006 that I've put on over 50k miles in four years. 40 yrs ago, I've had an r750/7 that I road cross country. I'm 66 and have had 3 others in my life. I'm not a fan getting off road, but I want to rent a BMW while I'm there. There might be some off road options for me there maybe on a beach. I like this review of the 800. I do like touring around. So, 800 or 1200? I love my LT!
Keep pressing on brother!
I see no one responded to you. Curious what you ended up renting. I would have recommended renting the r1200/1250gs or gsa if you're road riding. The bike is insanely comfortable.
@@motarded4214 thanks for the suggestion. As with everyone else, I had to cancel my travel plans. Hopefully, next year. And I'll do the 1200.
How do the F800GS and R1200GS compare with the latest Kawasaki Verseys 1000 SE LT +?
Totally different bikes, the Kawi i wouldn't take off road like you could the F800GS the R1200GS is a bear off road to handle its big and can/is done a lot but when you get into the real technical stuff you only drop it once or twice and your pooched. If you want off road go with a lighter 800GS but if your mostly 90% highway 10% dirt road go with the 1200GS. Maybe look at the new Yamaha 700 Tenere. The Kawasaki is a more road going bike, a lot of plastic to break and not really designed for off road work.
Dual purpose bikes are comprises. "Enduros" now Adventure have been around for decades, now just bigger more street than dirt. Engine made in India or somewhere not Germany.
Incorrect. The F800GS has a German made engine. The new 850 is built in Asia
Have you heard of the sinnis terrain? Well its an adv bike and i want it
Otherwise known as Zongshen RX1... Unfortunately not available in the US.
The rx3 and rx4 are available here though.
Srkcycles toughs on the Royal Enfield Hymalayan
Try doing a review on a
K.T.M. LC-4 640CC dual sport .
I got a 1999 and I've own 3 of them in the past.
I've also own two
1999 honda xr650
A 2006 Suzuki drz400
And I totally prefer the
K.T.M. L C.-4 ..
It's definitely a life long keeper.
I'll never sell it..
Bro i love this bike
Hey mate what windscreen is that
You’ve heard of enduro racing haven’t you? Long distance, multi environment racing? Been doing it since the 1980’s
all day comfort, gas sipper, feels a little small at highway speeds but it’ll run 85 mph all day long
The increased interest in Adventure Bikes is largely due to the overall poor condition of Streets, and Highways in many parts of the U.S.
beardo52 have you even been to South America? Highways in America are the smoothest thing in the world 🤨
H H they suck where you probably went to, not Massachusetts
@H H That's because of Europe's Tiny Roads you could barley drive a pickup over there.
what comfort seat is on there ?
how can i contact you with important info concerning a bike auction
Just google SRK CYCLES and call them. There's a phone number on the website.
R1200gs will take up a bit more room in your garage and is heavier on the scale BUT: it’s balanced better, feels lighter, is actually easier to pick up off the ground than a f800. And anyone that thinks a f800gs has good Riad handling probably hasn’t ridden a good handling bike. The front end is light and vague. The r1200 by contrast leans over with much greater ease and confidence.
Hi,
Awesome video. Could you tell me how tall are you. I’m 200 cm and I wonder if this bike will be good for me.
I think he said once he was 6’2”.
My friend is 200 and he rides Honda VFR1200XD Crosstourer
i'm 198cm, and i have an 09 myself. i think it's definitely among the best bikes for tall riders. i've tried a few variations of the triumph tiger, the africa twin and a couple of ktm's. it's for sure better than the africa twin. one of the tigers was about same (don't remember exactly which model...) and the ktm 1290 super adventure R beats it. but then, the ktm is a different class of bike, twice the price, 10 years newer and not as reliable.
BUT, i wouldn't recommend starting out on a 800gs. it's not the easiest bike to learn on. you will drop it. it's really big and heavy, and driving it feels like a hybrid between a road bike and a motocross.
Svein Arne Løkken What do you mean by 09?
@@eshin2003 2009 model year F800GS
I owned a '87 R100GS back in the day and I can tell you there is no motorcycle more useful and versatile than an ADV. While I never technically did "off-road" riding I did drive over curbs, highway medians when stuck in traffic, cratered parking lots, dirt roads, sketchy campground paths not to mention rough pavement and soft road shoulders.
I would be riding one now if I could get my leg over one, but I may have a RE Himmie in my future.
What year was this bike
LOLOL I laugh at what you say about people buying Jeeps. My wife bought a Wrangler Sahara and it will rarely even see a dirt road let alone off road haha. That looks like a nice bike although I am thinking of trading up my Ninja 1000 for a Honda CB500X as I miss riding on the dirt roads and my wife won't let me take her Wrangler. LOL
ABS light flashing means it's working and ready, but not engaged. Reason being speed too slow. Has to be about 5mph or above for abs to work.
How can i not like this bike or the 1100 or 1200 ?
Best F800gs video on TH-cam!
Hows the reliability?
And Mpg?
Reliabillity is great. Rotax engine. Will not go kaput if maintained properly
Yes
I have a 2016 Triumph Tiger, a Yamaha TW200 and looking to add a 2019 Soft Tail.
What should you expect to pay for this bike?
slow riding youngtimer. What a Pity for such a Beauty.
Yo where that wheelie at?
yes
How do you feel about the 310 GS ? ... In comparison ...
Not comparable bikes, but litle GS is worth to take a test drive and form an opinion.
I'll take the KTM 790 Adventure R
Hell ya this is a bad boy
Can’t decide on this bike or the Triumph 800 XC or XR
The electronics on the BMW lacks reliability. And they have no kick start.
@@bigdogpete43 nothing has a kick start anymore.
...did he say, adventure bikes are LIGHT?
How much is a final drive for a gs1200?
I had one done on my r1150gs. I personally removed it and had bmw rebuild it. Something like $500. Also they wear out between 30-70k miles. That is why every other oil change you do the final drive oil to find out if your final drive is going out.
@@aernan I guess I heard some false horror story's about those final drives costing as much as 3k for replacement
Please please find a Ktm 1290 super adventure r and do a review
Hello! What is your height?
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I like the words of wisdom
I would not trade my gsa1200 for any other bike. It'll tour more comfortably than the chinese engined 800 and is far more torquey and powerful. As 99% of owners will never go off road the smaller bike's only real advantage is gone. The weight doesn't matter on road and the 1200 is about as manouvrable as bikes get. If I had an 800 I wouldn't change that either because it also does most things well plus I wouldn't eant to pay the extra for the gsa! This is the main selling point of the 800....value. it's a fantastic bike for the money. Over here in the uk used prces have risen so my 2016 gsa is worth as much now as when I bought it 2 years ago and a similarly spec'd ones would set you back over £20K. That makes the 800 a bargain.
Isn't the 800 rotax built in Austria. The newer 750/850 have a loncin engine built in China.
@@chrishart8548 you may well be right but I thought all of the 800s were now Chinese made. It doesn't change my personal thoughts though. The 1200 is the better bike, price aside. Once you experience the torquey boxer, no other bike will do.
@@ReferenceFidelityComponents I tried the r1200gs and the S1000xr and was happy to get my f800gs back. It's a 2014 has dynamic pack (esa) (asc) etc and comfort pack. They all have there advantages.
@@chrishart8548 they do but to really appreciate the gsa you need an extended all day ride. It is more comfortable than the gs and has more legroom and more suspension travel. It is effortless, comfortable and characterful. The torque and flat twin are the heart and soul of the bike. CoG is remarkably low too.
My gsa is the 2016 model and has all the bells and whistles including dynamic esa, plus it has the full pannier complement; heated grips, full led lights, spots, 5 engine modes for various surfaces or weather. It's a complete joy to ride.
@@ReferenceFidelityComponents I was surprised how the 1200 never felt like it would ever tip over. Even 2 up and 3 point turns the manageability was mind blowing. 125mph 2 up with no effort. The screen is also very effective. They are amazing bikes. The 800 is a fun little bike though and cheap if it's bought outright. Insurance for me is £65.25 for the whole year. If a was changing bikes I couldn't even decide between a S1000xr and a r1250gs.
Almost the end of 2019, why are you reviewing a 2011 model??
@Paul Smith Relevancy!
@Paul Smith No, I wear a helmet. To answer your second question is to answer why I commented in the first place. Don't do a click bait title video on an old bike and btw this years model is a significantly different to the bike you are displaying, and review it like it's new. Great comparisons to the 1200.....might be too tall or too heavy for some people.
Great work keep it up and Jesus was way cool!
@Paul Smith Click Bait! and he didn't even get it on the dirt! Ha
ARE YOU ENVY? MMHHH yes you are envy
Great bike, best investment of my life. Invest in happiness and fun and you wont regret a penny.
Amen!
If you cross a 800GS with a Grom you get a Royal Enfield Himalayan.
OMG YOU TOOK OFF WITHOUT A HELMET OMG!!!!! UNSAFE!!!!! OMG!!!!!
I love how you read a bible verse or say a prayer before each ride. Wonderful man, I love it. God bless
Then put some Air bro