I have an 1150 GSA with 236k on it. Original engine. The Transmission and final drive lasted 190k miles. I also have a Tenere 700. I like the 150lb ish weight savings. But will always have a GS - Currently I own 4 from a 1990 to a 2012.
@@bfeadventures for me the big value of GS (2010/2012) is the DOHC VERSION of engine. i had a SOHC engine and there is not comparision. For me and for a lot of persone is the BETTER BOXER of ever. Better of LC too. And this is the reason of the highest price of air oil engine. In italy a DOHC with 80000kms costs more then 11000 EURO.
I have the identical model GeeEssA. Bought new in 2010. It now has 120k km on the clock (75 K miles) without any major hassles. Living in South Africa my bike has toured extensively off road without any problems. I have a set of aluminium side cases, and made custom use of an original 1150 gs top case which looks fantastic. Like you mentioned I have had the fuel strip replaced 5 times. BMW paying for three of them. Never had any major problem as I service my bike every 5000 kays. The prop shaft was serviced at 100k km, replaced the seals. Currently in for service where the steering bearing and sleeve is being replaced as I found a slight play back and forth in the handle bar. One of the most overlooked replacement is the knuckle attaching the front forks to the paralever. Check that this is tight and the rubber bushing not perished. The bike was the last model before the introduction of the “liquid cooled” 1250 gs. Many of the mechanics at BMW confess that our bike is still the best one made. Yes, the new ones have all the bells and whistles, tft, serious computing and general updates, but just remember when riding with your mate on the latest GeeEss that you will both arrive at the same time! Only he has cruise control - damn!
cruise control is achieved when your handle grip heaters fail (which they will) you replace with aftermarket ones (heaps easier than fixing the dry joint they seem to get in the body control module that causes the failure) when putting the new grips on you just make them sligthly tighter on the throttle twist and it gives the throttle a slight bit tension allowing the throttle to stay where you leave it, if you dont let it snap back initially, and there you now have criuise control just like your mate. i have 2011 gs1200, just clicked over 105 000 miles and still going like a champion. apart from servicing, only major repair has been a gear box, the old girl sent second gear straight out through the side of the cases, leaving a hole about an inch and half across. it was slow after that, but the old girl still got me the 130 miles to home, albeit with a few stops to add some more gear oil and wipe the ejected gear oil off of my leg. best bike i have ever owned
The more you know about something, the easier and straightforward it becomes. Whether it be issues or not. Your video helps a lot in that regard . Thank you.
Hi, Great Video and I really enjoyed it. I Ride a 2006 R1200GS that I Traded s Harley for. I’ve had it a couple of Years now and No Problems at all. No Oil Leaks, everything works perfect, and it Rides like a New One. I have Ridden Bikes for 50 Yrs and this is the best Bike I have ever Ridden. No Electronics to worry about, I just get on and go. I have 4 Fusions in my Neck and 2 in my Lower Back. I also have Scoliosis which is curvature of the Spine. The GS is the only Bike I can Ride and not hurt. I love it.👍👍
@@rajugeorge2312your Back will Thank You. I also got tired of the Heat coming off of the rear Cylinder of the Harley. Plus Forward Controls kills my Back. The GS is so comfortable I don’t hurt at all. I also don’t feel any Heat coming from the Engine. You won’t regret getting a GS. You’ll have to Test Ride one and see what you think.
2010 yellow GSA, I have had for well over three years, moderate off-roading, some long trips, the NEBDR, etc. No real issues, very durable, comfortable for up to 7 to 9 hour rides. Fuel range is easily 340-380mi, depending on speed, tires, terrain, riding style. I ride with Mosko Moto soft luggage panniers, and upgraded Tractive shocks (extreme variant on rear). Added bark busters and a kaoko throttle lock. I can do just about any terrain a 650 or larger bike can do, obviously taking into account the ~530 lb mass. I have this GS(A) and a KTM 350 excf, and surprisingly I don’t miss anything in between those two. Not tempted by upgrades. Good bike!
Thanks for taking the time to review this amazing machine. I have a 2007 GSA and, for my needs and wants, there's not another bike that even comes close to the rugged refinement, comfort and performance. I've had several bikes throughout the years including an 2001 Sportster with 235,000 miles on the odometer, so I'm not green. It's a shame that many folks will never get to experience this kind of performance due to their close mindedness. I purchased my 2007 GSA three years ago for $4,500.
Thank you for making this video. I like your style and I share your GS passion. Well done Sir. I owned the same 2011 in gray. Agree with you re road manners. I sold in year 2018 in favor of a 2019 1250gs. Inwish I had kept it. I think the older “adventure” model is among the most utilitarian, beautiful of motorcycles. The reason I sold….i wanted to “flat foot” my bike. Now I can. But I still miss my 2011. I appreciate your thoughtful content.
great review. i am trying to decide on a later vs newer model and you have done a fantastic job in explaining the pros and cons of this particular model
Don't have a GS anymore (I owned an 1150 years ago), but I have a 2013 R1200 R. I absolutely LOVE it. It currently has 28,000 miles on it and runs like new. Very easy to work on and maintain yourself.
nice overview...I picked up a lo mi 2012 GSA for $10k and love it/no issues. My riding in 80/20 street. This is my 4th GS, all good bikes and they keep improving.
i also have to move my bike just a tiny bit and it will go out of neutral easily. I believe it is how the gearbox works, it took me some time also to do smooth shifts between 1st and 2nd gear, however now it feels just natural to me.
Love my 2009 GS Bought it with 24k miles and put 9k miles on it. Bulletproof. No repairs at all. Just good maintenance and go. It can go to 136mph on the highway, then get beat up in the dirt, and keep going.
Hey! I have a similar problem getting my bike out of neutral. As you depress the shift lever, lightly let off the clutch and it'll lock into gear. Works every time.
Thanks for the review. Very thorough and honest. My new 1250gsa should be arriving at the dealer in a few weeks. Even more exited to get it when I hear how durable they are.
Late to the party 😊, thanks for the information. Thinking of a used GS to keep the Gen1 KLR company. Do my own wrenching so mechanicals aren't a problem if the price reflects that. Just getting older and taking it a little easier off-road. Thanks
I just picked up my (new to me) 2016 GSA. Unfortunately in red, but the 12k price tag more than makes up for that! 35k miles on the clock, all services done at the local dealership. This is my 2nd GSA. Approx 75% street/long distance touring. 25% gravel, forest access roads. I haven‘t done anything hard off-road, the GSA is a bit too heavy for my skill level.
This video was served up in my feed, so yay to the algorithm! Dude, I'm a new rider who said "screw it" and bought a used '05 GS with 43K on it for $5K. Had a new pair of K60 scouts and a pair of spoked wheels with it (along with the stock cast wheels and road tires). I've done paved country roads and gravel/dirt fire roads with it constantly over the last year and EVERY time I ride it I want to hug it. It is the stablest, surest, most comfortable bike. Its low center of gravity helps breed confidence with a new rider like me. Fortunately I'm tall (6'2") so the bike, while heavy, doesn't feel small to me-especially when up on the pegs. I learned to service it myself, totally tore it down with a GS expert nearby who taught me the ropes so its mechanical systems aren't that intimidating to me. I'm telling you, this video is 100% accurate. The value you can get out of a used GS-even one as old as mine-is incredible. Sure, there are other bikes that make SOME aspects of ADV riding easier, and sure, there are nightmare scenarios you could encounter on one of these where picking the damned thing up all by yourself would be pretty miserable. But just take a look at the GS Trophy videos and tell me this bike isn't any more capable than some of its more "off road" oriented brethren...hogwash...it can do WAY more than most riders will ever push it through. If you're on the fence, don't be.
Got the exact same model and even colour but mine is made in 2010. I had to have the fuel strip changed. Didn't cost much. I have ridden it for three years now and never had any other problem. My gear box doesn't cause me any problems actually although it is a little bit clunky but no problem really. I am sure the more recent BMW´s are even better but still, it is an amazing bike and you get an awful lot for your money if you find a slightly older bike in really good shape. I absolutely love my 1200GS!
@@bseidem5112 there is a kit with steel attack for 80 usd. If you dont know how to resolve problem is not GS responsability. Going ever to the dealers is wrong. Them change the problem with same parts.
@@bseidem5112BMW has a new, improved type of fuel strip now. They exchanged my old one for free and updated parts in the injection system with no cost as a goodwill gesture. Runs like a dream now and I am impressed by the BMW service, I must say!
2010 onwards BMW reverted to the old float fuel gauge so it isn`t a problem anymore . 2010-2013 twin cam motor from the HP2 is the best air/oil cooled motor with 110hp . Regreasing the shaft splines at 10k miles is a good idea if you use it off road and you might get a little corrosion on the front engine cover if you use it in the winter .otherwise a great solid fun characterful long term 2nd hand buy . twin cam motors are the best , did I allready say that ?
Purchased a 1150 GS a few years past, it had 26000 miles on and a great bike. Returning from Arizona to northwest through Nevada on 2 lane and stopped for fuel and I side the clerk told me my bike was being mess with. Look and 3 Harley riders poured gas on it and burned. I like this GS as it did have the electronic strapping on it. Never was able to locate another low mileage one.
That’s sorry for anyone to do that to someone’s Bike, no matter what brand it is! The Harley Riders all think they are tough, but there has to be a Group of them!!! By themselves they are Pussys!!!
Depends if it's taken care of, I got two r1200gs now because I got a parts bike. The best windshield is the givi airflow, wind goes over my head and I'm 6,2
I decided to check out the BMW GS 1200GSA after reviewing the adventure bike reviews on youtube and in the major bike magazines. I decided on the BMW. I found a 2016 R1200GSA with 48K miles. One owner and that person purchased the bike at the dealership where it was being sold. He traded it in for a newer GS. I had all the service records at that dealer to review and unfortunately I was unable to get the owners name at that time. The bike just had a service at 48K. I purchased the bike and have been working on it off and on since Oct of 2020. I have 54K on it now and I am happy with what has been done to it and everything is working as it should except for the gate/valve in the exhaust pipe located just before the muffler. Once this valve starts to bind it is very hard to correct properly. I have worked on this at 2 different times and I finally decided to pull the cables from it so the servomotor can still move freely and the valve is at the open position as to not impede exhaust flow. The valve was put in place mainly for exhaust noise tuning. The torque loss at a particular rpm range is negligible. I also installed a plexiglass viewing window during troubleshooting. I love this bike and have not done any extreme off-roading with it. Mainly paved roads. I do most of all the servicing and decided to have dealer do valve adjustments. Every valve had to be adjusted and a rocker shaft had to be replaced. Sorry about being long winded but just wanted you to know, I would buy one again after doing the proper research on prior servicing. I believe the past owner did not have the valves adjusted at 48K because of the cost. If I heard valves tapping when I purchased it I probably would have done it then. But it is done now and ready for world touring!
Doing the valve clearances with shims is fiddly but doable for the home mechanic as long as you have a micrometer . I only had one to replace made a note of the shim size for future reference . They are more reliable than screw and locknut adjustment though .
Nice job here. I have had a 2009 R1200RT and a 2007 K1200LT. I really like the RT and it was low mileage, but the BMW reliability (or I should say the BMW dealership service departments) issues scared me away. I am aware of the final drive concerns of an older bike but I did not know of the rear case oil leak. Thanks for your help.
Never again a BMW for me. My 2008 1200GS (95000 km~ 62000mi) had for the second ! time ABS pump failure( new €1500 ) And Final drive failure ( second hand one for €900)+ labor + yearly inspection/ maintenance. Payed nearly € 3000. It had regular service at the dealership since new and no off road driving. I bought it second hand a few years ago at the dealership. My conclusion: quality far below par, repair costs far above. It's a fine ride though.
Absolutely agree with you I'm a fan of the old / 2 I would not buy anything newer than 1985 I've owned 30 or 40 of them over the course of my life so far have a 1150gs it's been a total piece of s***
I would have thought to check the final drive it would have been better to have it on the centre stand , and moving side to side would be a wheel bearing thing ( I’m asking the question )
The leak on the balance shaft is a issue. But if you are very careful about the amount of oil you put in and check it correctly that will help lesson the issue. Also I have a 05 and have had the bike apart twice and did the seals twice. BMW dealer I talked to said to install those seals with a small dab or RTV sealant on the case where they come together. That pretty much will solve your oil leak issue.
Hey there. I have a 2010 GSA and just noticed for the first time a bit of oil on the skid pan. It's coming from the back of the motor for sure. I think I may have overfilled it a little while back and was assuming this was the issue. But now I'm hearing (in this video) of the common problem of a leak. Any way you could elaborate a bit on what might be causing it. Would greatly appreciate your input. Thanks
Just split my gs it’s a big job to replace the seals ,if you do it do the main seal balance shaft seal and the input and output gearbox seals +clutch. Trust me you only want to do it once .
Hi you are Dem right my man I have old model 2000 and 1 GS alloy wheel alloy wheel that is good the problem is the think is 19 anytime only but is a strong bike strong bike thank you for your device
I honestly couldn’t tell you on the weight. I’m sure the manufacturers wet weight is close, but ultimately- loaded weight depends on what you are bringing.
As far as getting it out of neutral- have you tried applying a little downward pressure on the gear shifter while simultaneously letting go of the clutch slightly? That usually works on BMWs!
I ride motorcycles all my life I’m 63 I had Hondas kawasakis Yamaha and never have problems I said it’s time to get a bmw and did it now I have the 2010 Adventure 30 anniversary and was disappointed in the beginning, start to burn oil, strap sensor for fuel, now after 9k when I seriously think on sale it, everything works fine so I’m going to keep it, to much electronics is the key to stay away for issues
It happens to me exactly ,I have 2010 30 anniversary, start to burn oil and fuel sensor change it few times under garantie, and when think of sale , everything works fine so I keep it, I have a 2002 fz1 with 62000 miles never got a mayor issue
Hey there. I have a 2010 GSA and just noticed for the first time a bit of oil on the skid pan. It's coming from the back of the motor for sure. I think I may have overfilled it a little while back and was assuming this was the issue. But now I'm hearing (in this video) of the common problem of a leak. Any way you could elaborate a bit on what might be causing it. Would greatly appreciate your input. Thanks
Hey, Jim! Honestly, it's been a while since that issue, so I don't remember exact details. That sounds almost exactly how it shows up. There are 2 leaks that show oil in the same spot. One is about a $7 fix and the other is a few hundred dollar fix. The problem is the whole bike needs to be split in half to determine which one it is and THAT is where the big money comes in - the labor...
I'm considering a 2013 or 2014 r1200gs myself versus a 2022 Kawasaki klr 650 for a second motorcycle to start doing some offroad riding on it like gravel and fire service roads and eventually the mid Atlantic bdr that starts about a hour away from me. I have ridden both the new klr and two 2017 bmw r1200gs so I know how both bikes ride . But I torn to Kawasaki because of the cheaper price? What you're opinion and what would you choose.
If you are not getting into anything more aggressive than gravel roads and occasional double track, I think you will find value in the BMW. I have also owned a KLR. It is a very reliable steed. I will say though as I progress through motorcycles, I now see the value in the higher price tag in many cases. If this is only going to be a secondary motorcycle, do you mind me asking what your primary bike is? That may help me give you a better opinion.
Heya! I have owned a KLR myself, sold a few months ago because of work from home and haven’t been riding it much. My 2c, the KLR will be brilliant if you are going to be doing some heavy off roaring because of its weight. The GS is obviously heavier and bigger and higher! The only downside to the KLR is that it is very slow in terms of its top speed.
I just bought an 08 1200GS with 75,000 Mike's on it. Seems to ride real well. I have no problem getting mine out of neutral but getting it into neutral- that's a whole different ball game.
@BFE Adventures The joys of mass production and tolerances. Have you come across the unexpected engine cut out when changing down yet? Happened to me within hours of collecting mine and apparently is a thing on some of them.
My 2012 will cut out sometimes if I blip the throttle kinda hard from idle or when downshifting. There is a fuel pump recall I need to have done, but I’m not that worried about it.
you're totally true...driving the same bike! 2 things: true, it can be hard to get it in gear...before I had the 1150...at the trafficlights I would never put it in neutral...sometimes I had to kick it into gear!!! In dutch we say: it's pretty grumpy mortorblock. People who drive this the first time think it will fall apart...haha. With the 1200 I got less problems...saying that..it happens sometimes. Fuel strip: strange, when I bought it, it was totally unreliable, but after a couple of fill ups, it totally worked perfect. I only drive the motor, don't own a car. On the other hand I heard stories that people had it repaired....very costly, like everything on a BMW...love your vid.
Nice video. I rented a 2008 R1200GS in Australia a few years ago, it had 140000km (87500 miles) on it and it was a rental bike that had probably been dropped over a hundred times over the years (it had many scars)...and it felt like a brand new bike, from brakes to suspensions, to engine it was flawless. With that said I've seen one of these having it's clutch replaced...and the bike basically has to be completely disassembled to make it happen. I had a 2018 RNineT and it was taking 1L of oil per 10000km...and BMW said anything under 4L per 10000km was within specs...which is pretty insane on a modern bike. Valves are easy to check but the maintenance schedule is ridiculously high. Then you can find many having driving shaft failures at 100000km (60000miles). ABS modules and electronic suspensions are extremely expensive to fix on the later models. Super comfortable, fun bike, but I wouldn't consider it as my own for the reasons mentioned above.
Shaft failure isn't as common if maintained decently. ABS only up to 2007 a prob. Clutch around 100K Km/60k miles - terrible repair. Rust on subframe may be a problem atleast 2013 and younger. My 2011 uses 800ml-1000ml every 10000km as well. Suspension is to be maintained at a specialist around 260€ per demper if you take them off the bike yourself, every 5-7 yrs or 60K km. 2014 and up are around 370 per demper. Expensive and not really possible to maintain yourself. Make sure to check if you still have damping, harder to feel up front. Maintenance is easy to do yourself on this bike, reason I got it myself. Also: exhaust valve will cease. If you work it often it ll remain working. I gave up and decoupled the cables in the module closest to the engine, not the exhaust itself. On 2014 and up it is fully connected. Pre 2013 you can disconnect it from the exhaust system if wished for. In 'idle' mode it stays open
@@protectork9831The Clutch is up front on the newer models, so it’s a lot easier to Repsir if ever needed. On the older Models, the Clutch is at the back of the Motor. So you have to pretty much remove or Pivot the rear Frame up to get to the Clutch.
Nice video and I love my 13 GSA as well. But you left out the #1 BMW boomer the FUEL PUMP needs to be upgraded over the OEM one. BMW fuel pumps are trash.. 👍🏾👍🏾GS
Thanks for the insight. I'm in SC and planning to pickup a used one this coming week, 2007 R1200GSA with over 100k miles. Thanks for helping me know what to look for! Would love to link up for a ride!
@@manuelrivera6873 Yeah... and the bike runs awesome! I need to rebuild the ABS (or pay $250 to get it done), but the 2007 brakes still work when ABS fails. Has 107.5k miles.
Honestly - miles are arbitrary- I think it matters more on the owner. I know I personally would not be concerned at 50-60k miles if it comes from a good owner.
Reliable???? You must be joking! I have a 2007 GS and it has been a cluster of failures. I am on my third fuel pump and it has failed with a rusty motor, and it is now showing yet again a crack at the fuel connector. The strip sensor, third one, is also showing some signs of ill health. I have had a new ECU too!!!! A number of tyre pressure sensors . Of course, the shaft balancer seal too, etc etc. Front shock leaking, final transmission rubber boot cracking, indicator stems becoming sticky then cracking, the list is endless ( the weather maybe a factor, I am in Phuket, Thailand but that is NO excuse!!!. I could go on but you get the drift. Cheers.
In one sentence this review states the bike is dead reliable, then in another sentence states the case has to be split due to know issues with oil leakage. High cost repair at dealer. Contradictory. Another issue is limited BMW dealers and backlog of repairs equals transportation costs, long travel and wait times for repairs. Higher ownership costs than Japanese bikes. As our goal is more riding time and low cost of ownership this motorcycle is not the king in those areas. Any less featured motorcycle can be modified to meet the riders needs.
@@f42un84u great point. I was trying to portray that the majority of these bikes are ridden many miles with no issues. However, if they do, they can be costly. I don't disagree though. That is why the GS was replaced with an Africa Twin. Ride safe out there!
Like a lot of things the GS- GSA is a great bike till it breaks, then you better hope whatever’s wrong is covered by warranty if you have one otherwise pretty much everything on these bikes is ridiculously expensive. 💰💰💰
That’s why I would suggest a slightly used one AND a headlight guard! 😜 I will say, you get what you pay for. In the ADV world, nothing is cheap outside of a KLR/DR. Lol If you are looking for something more budget friendly, check out our review including the Super Tenere. Another option is a CB500X. Check out our review on that soon!
not sure where you buy your parts from, but i have only been impressed with the cost of bits for mine, worse failure i have had is a gearbox, and i managed to get a second hand gearbox from a wrecked bike for $1000. a couple of my mates are riding harleys and buells and theyn spend more than that on their tassles and belt buckles
No thanks my friend, I got rid of mine too heavy, not very capable of rough off road tracks. I exchanged it for a tiger 800 xca which although not totally an off-road machine it’s mucho better than my gsa so sorry I was fooled by what everyone said about the beemers off-road capability.
She is definitely a big girl off-road! Glad you found the right bike for you! I spend more off-road time on the Africa Twin now and may even go with the T7 to get even more rowdy
I just picked up a 2008. Mine also doesn't like to get out of neutral. It's not terribly difficult and not persistent, but it gets annoying. Did you ever figure out what was causing it?
@@bfeadventures It's been my dream bike for about 15 years. My fuel gauge failed today, it was my 3rd time riding the bike since I bought it. I found a trick online where you zap the connector pins with a modified lighter and it worked lol (but for how long..). The bike only has 28,000 miles on it and it's very clean for a 2008 so I am very happy with the purchase.
Hi there, mine was a 2010 GS and also did that. I remember the first time it happened I was stopped at an intersection and in neutral, and I could not get it into first gear. For some reason I rolled forward, and that allowed me to shift. I asked the service department and they said that’s normal behavior (I forget why). Since then, I would always pull in the clutch, give it a rev of gas, and then drop I to neutral and it worked. Please let me say, this happened on both by 2009 and my 2010 GS. It is a really solid machine, and the only issues I had were prematurely wearing down the clutch (due to too much feathering), and then around 90K a u-joint on the drive shaft failed. Along the way there were the occasional seal failures, but nothing that I would call a major problem. The clutch replacement is a big deal because of the labor cost associated with splitting the bike in two. All in all, it ends up being around eight hours worth of time, something like that. Still an absolutely amazing excellent machine, particularly with that antidive front suspension.
The Fuel strip IS a big deal. The new part along costs over $200 then you have the labor since you can't simply install the stupid thing, it has to be calibrated by a computer. To have this repair done is over $500 to replace an electrical wire. Very stupid design to save few ounces.
It all depends on your attitude. Todays bikes are full of electronic sophistication and they need regular servicing. And by that I mean dealer logbook servicing. You know the rule about not buying a car without a service history, right? Well it's the same for a bike these days. Long gone are the days when you could do it yourself. Most manufacturers also have tamper proof ECUs that only a factory dealer can reset. Jake at your local bike shop might think his scanner he bought from Amazon can do that? Well no. It can't. Manufacturers like BMW have invested millions into their dealer networks and they are now making sure that they get the servicing business just like the car dealers do. So wanna buy a used GS? Meet the seller at the dealer and pay the $100 for them to do a proper scan. It's all there and if the stamps are not in the log book, walk away.
You must be rich to buy a new one.You constantly pick these things up for half the price with 20 000km or les on the clock....why on earth buy a new one??? Its a toy.....
let some one whos paid 20k plus run in your next GS , let them do the first services , find and fix any faults , add all the extras , and take 30% depreciation in two years ,,, then buy it pre loved The real question here is why should anyone buy a new GS.
I think you could find a GS in GREAT shape for under $10k. Base models started around $15k. Whether or not it is worth it depends on the way you plan to ride and what your budget allows.
My 14,000 mile - 2016 ❤️ GSA Rocks. At $15,555 the poor Bro’ who lost out to CoVid 🦠 should rest in peace, knowing his steed is in a good place / warm garage ❣️
I have an 1150 GSA with 236k on it. Original engine. The Transmission and final drive lasted 190k miles. I also have a Tenere 700. I like the 150lb ish weight savings. But will always have a GS - Currently I own 4 from a 1990 to a 2012.
Now, if that isn't a testament, I don't know what is!
Wow that’s a LOT of miles!!
@@bfeadventures for me the big value of GS (2010/2012) is the DOHC VERSION of engine. i had a SOHC engine and there is not comparision. For me and for a lot of persone is the BETTER BOXER of ever. Better of LC too. And this is the reason of the highest price of air oil engine. In italy a DOHC with 80000kms costs more then 11000 EURO.
@@Okke-j2n wow!
Bullshit
I have the identical model GeeEssA. Bought new in 2010. It now has 120k km on the clock (75 K miles) without any major hassles. Living in South Africa my bike has toured extensively off road without any problems. I have a set of aluminium side cases, and made custom use of an original 1150 gs top case which looks fantastic. Like you mentioned I have had the fuel strip replaced 5 times. BMW paying for three of them. Never had any major problem as I service my bike every 5000 kays. The prop shaft was serviced at 100k km, replaced the seals. Currently in for service where the steering bearing and sleeve is being replaced as I found a slight play back and forth in the handle bar. One of the most overlooked replacement is the knuckle attaching the front forks to the paralever. Check that this is tight and the rubber bushing not perished. The bike was the last model before the introduction of the “liquid cooled” 1250 gs. Many of the mechanics at BMW confess that our bike is still the best one made. Yes, the new ones have all the bells and whistles, tft, serious computing and general updates, but just remember when riding with your mate on the latest GeeEss that you will both arrive at the same time! Only he has cruise control - damn!
That's a great testament to this bike! Cruise control is definitely longed for. haha
cruise control is achieved when your handle grip heaters fail (which they will) you replace with aftermarket ones (heaps easier than fixing the dry joint they seem to get in the body control module that causes the failure) when putting the new grips on you just make them sligthly tighter on the throttle twist and it gives the throttle a slight bit tension allowing the throttle to stay where you leave it, if you dont let it snap back initially, and there you now have criuise control just like your mate. i have 2011 gs1200, just clicked over 105 000 miles and still going like a champion. apart from servicing, only major repair has been a gear box, the old girl sent second gear straight out through the side of the cases, leaving a hole about an inch and half across. it was slow after that, but the old girl still got me the 130 miles to home, albeit with a few stops to add some more gear oil and wipe the ejected gear oil off of my leg. best bike i have ever owned
The more you know about something, the easier and straightforward it becomes. Whether it be issues or not. Your video helps a lot in that regard . Thank you.
You're welcome!
Hi, Great Video and I really enjoyed it. I Ride a 2006 R1200GS that I Traded s Harley for. I’ve had it a couple of Years now and No Problems at all. No Oil Leaks, everything works perfect, and it Rides like a New One. I have Ridden Bikes for 50 Yrs and this is the best Bike I have ever Ridden. No Electronics to worry about, I just get on and go. I have 4 Fusions in my Neck and 2 in my Lower Back. I also have Scoliosis which is curvature of the Spine. The GS is the only Bike I can Ride and not hurt. I love it.👍👍
have similar issues , wanting to give away Harley Sportster XLC 1200 and get something like this ,
@@rajugeorge2312your Back will Thank You. I also got tired of the Heat coming off of the rear Cylinder of the Harley. Plus Forward Controls kills my Back. The GS is so comfortable I don’t hurt at all. I also don’t feel any Heat coming from the Engine. You won’t regret getting a GS. You’ll have to Test Ride one and see what you think.
2010 yellow GSA, I have had for well over three years, moderate off-roading, some long trips, the NEBDR, etc. No real issues, very durable, comfortable for up to 7 to 9 hour rides. Fuel range is easily 340-380mi, depending on speed, tires, terrain, riding style. I ride with Mosko Moto soft luggage panniers, and upgraded Tractive shocks (extreme variant on rear). Added bark busters and a kaoko throttle lock. I can do just about any terrain a 650 or larger bike can do, obviously taking into account the ~530 lb mass. I have this GS(A) and a KTM 350 excf, and surprisingly I don’t miss anything in between those two. Not tempted by upgrades. Good bike!
Thanks for taking the time to review this amazing machine. I have a 2007 GSA and, for my needs and wants, there's not another bike that even comes close to the rugged refinement, comfort and performance. I've had several bikes throughout the years including an 2001 Sportster with 235,000 miles on the odometer, so I'm not green. It's a shame that many folks will never get to experience this kind of performance due to their close mindedness. I purchased my 2007 GSA three years ago for $4,500.
That’s a great deal on a great bike! Easily one of my favorites! Enjoy!
Absolutely yes!! Great value in a used GS. Bought my 2012 with 4500 miles on it in 2021.
Thank you for making this video. I like your style and I share your GS passion. Well done Sir.
I owned the same 2011 in gray. Agree with you re road manners. I sold in year 2018 in favor of a 2019 1250gs. Inwish I had kept it. I think the older “adventure” model is among the most utilitarian, beautiful of motorcycles.
The reason I sold….i wanted to “flat foot” my bike. Now I can. But I still miss my 2011. I appreciate your thoughtful content.
Thank you!
Great video with excellent info. Have being looking at GS's, new or used, and your video helps a lot. Thanks for taking the time to share. Cheers
I just bought a 2011 R1200GSA, same color as yours. This is my fourth BMW and couldn’t be happier with it. Bike is going to Sturgis this summer.
great review. i am trying to decide on a later vs newer model and you have done a fantastic job in explaining the pros and cons of this particular model
Don't have a GS anymore (I owned an 1150 years ago), but I have a 2013 R1200 R. I absolutely LOVE it. It currently has 28,000 miles on it and runs like new. Very easy to work on and maintain yourself.
nice overview...I picked up a lo mi 2012 GSA for $10k and love it/no issues. My riding in 80/20 street. This is my 4th GS, all good bikes and they keep improving.
That's a great find! I think I'll always have a GS! May get a middleweight as well, but the GS is a staple now!
I have an F650GS and I use the Mosko Moto 80L soft bags, and they are fantastic...JMTC
i also have to move my bike just a tiny bit and it will go out of neutral easily. I believe it is how the gearbox works, it took me some time also to do smooth shifts between 1st and 2nd gear, however now it feels just natural to me.
Great job on the video!!!! I feel very educated now on the bike! Well Done!!!
Love my 2009 GS Bought it with 24k miles and put 9k miles on it. Bulletproof. No repairs at all. Just good maintenance and go. It can go to 136mph on the highway, then get beat up in the dirt, and keep going.
9k miles bUlLiT PrOoF lol
@@Soulasgardhe must be comparing it to a Harley...lol
Thanks man!! I own a 2014 and bought it 2nd hand. Had 20000km on. Love it but wanted some assuring.
Enjoy paying the dealer big time 2X a year.
I have a R1200GS Adv from 2011 quite happy with it
Adquiri a minha ano passado, usada, triple black, ano 2018, com 32.000 km.
Agora, 2022, está com 41.000 km. Nenhum defeito até o momento.
Well said. As an owner who rides mine everywhere, they are solid and take a beating. On the road they are like a tourer.
Looking to close on a 2010 GSA… going backwards, I have a 2017 RS… back to the roomier GS for me.
Hey! I have a similar problem getting my bike out of neutral. As you depress the shift lever, lightly let off the clutch and it'll lock into gear. Works every time.
Thanks for the review. Very thorough and honest. My new 1250gsa should be arriving at the dealer in a few weeks. Even more exited to get it when I hear how durable they are.
Enjoy your new ride!
How to turn out with new bmw?
Hmm Currently owning a 1190 Adventure, and looking into getting LC 1200GS Interesting view from your side, thanks
Enjoy the ride!
Late to the party 😊, thanks for the information. Thinking of a used GS to keep the Gen1 KLR company. Do my own wrenching so mechanicals aren't a problem if the price reflects that. Just getting older and taking it a little easier off-road. Thanks
I just picked up my (new to me) 2016 GSA. Unfortunately in red, but the 12k price tag more than makes up for that! 35k miles on the clock, all services done at the local dealership. This is my 2nd GSA. Approx 75% street/long distance touring. 25% gravel, forest access roads. I haven‘t done anything hard off-road, the GSA is a bit too heavy for my skill level.
Congrats on the new ride!!! For that price, you still have $ to wrap it a different color! lol Sounds like the GS is perfect for your needs!
This video was served up in my feed, so yay to the algorithm! Dude, I'm a new rider who said "screw it" and bought a used '05 GS with 43K on it for $5K. Had a new pair of K60 scouts and a pair of spoked wheels with it (along with the stock cast wheels and road tires). I've done paved country roads and gravel/dirt fire roads with it constantly over the last year and EVERY time I ride it I want to hug it. It is the stablest, surest, most comfortable bike. Its low center of gravity helps breed confidence with a new rider like me. Fortunately I'm tall (6'2") so the bike, while heavy, doesn't feel small to me-especially when up on the pegs. I learned to service it myself, totally tore it down with a GS expert nearby who taught me the ropes so its mechanical systems aren't that intimidating to me. I'm telling you, this video is 100% accurate. The value you can get out of a used GS-even one as old as mine-is incredible. Sure, there are other bikes that make SOME aspects of ADV riding easier, and sure, there are nightmare scenarios you could encounter on one of these where picking the damned thing up all by yourself would be pretty miserable. But just take a look at the GS Trophy videos and tell me this bike isn't any more capable than some of its more "off road" oriented brethren...hogwash...it can do WAY more than most riders will ever push it through. If you're on the fence, don't be.
Well said!!!
Yamaha S10, shaft, reliability, better off road although heavy, way less maint. Superior to the GS (had one) in every way.
@@bseidem5112 do a review and convince me😉
Got the exact same model and even colour but mine is made in 2010. I had to have the fuel strip changed. Didn't cost much. I have ridden it for three years now and never had any other problem. My gear box doesn't cause me any problems actually although it is a little bit clunky but no problem really. I am sure the more recent BMW´s are even better but still, it is an amazing bike and you get an awful lot for your money if you find a slightly older bike in really good shape. I absolutely love my 1200GS!
09' R12R, replaced fuel strip 3X in 6 years. As usual BMW engineering is sucky.
@@bseidem5112 there is a kit with steel attack for 80 usd. If you dont know how to resolve problem is not GS responsability. Going ever to the dealers is wrong. Them change the problem with same parts.
It's bmw produced bike, so it is their responsibility.
i have a 2010, gsa with 38k and it is amazing ! never any issues, just keep up with regular maintenance.
@@bseidem5112BMW has a new, improved type of fuel strip now. They exchanged my old one for free and updated parts in the injection system with no cost as a goodwill gesture. Runs like a dream now and I am impressed by the BMW service, I must say!
2010 onwards BMW reverted to the old float fuel gauge so it isn`t a problem anymore . 2010-2013 twin cam motor from the HP2 is the best air/oil cooled motor with 110hp . Regreasing the shaft splines at 10k miles is a good idea if you use it off road and you might get a little corrosion on the front engine cover if you use it in the winter .otherwise a great solid fun characterful long term 2nd hand buy . twin cam motors are the best , did I allready say that ?
Thanks for the awesome tips!
What about 2008 gsa ?
Purchased a 1150 GS a few years past, it had 26000 miles on and a great bike. Returning from Arizona to northwest through Nevada on 2 lane and stopped for fuel and I side the clerk told me my bike was being mess with. Look and 3 Harley riders poured gas on it and burned. I like this GS as it did have the electronic strapping on it. Never was able to locate another low mileage one.
Holy crap! So sorry to hear that!
Wtf 😂😂😂
Harley riders with Bimmer envy. We ride with pride.
That’s sorry for anyone to do that to someone’s Bike, no matter what brand it is! The Harley Riders all think they are tough, but there has to be a Group of them!!! By themselves they are Pussys!!!
Great vid, brother! Good information
Thanks!
Depends if it's taken care of, I got two r1200gs now because I got a parts bike.
The best windshield is the givi airflow, wind goes over my head and I'm 6,2
I decided to check out the BMW GS 1200GSA after reviewing the adventure bike reviews on youtube and in the major bike magazines. I decided on the BMW. I found a 2016 R1200GSA with 48K miles. One owner and that person purchased the bike at the dealership where it was being sold. He traded it in for a newer GS. I had all the service records at that dealer to review and unfortunately I was unable to get the owners name at that time. The bike just had a service at 48K. I purchased the bike and have been working on it off and on since Oct of 2020. I have 54K on it now and I am happy with what has been done to it and everything is working as it should except for the gate/valve in the exhaust pipe located just before the muffler. Once this valve starts to bind it is very hard to correct properly. I have worked on this at 2 different times and I finally decided to pull the cables from it so the servomotor can still move freely and the valve is at the open position as to not impede exhaust flow. The valve was put in place mainly for exhaust noise tuning. The torque loss at a particular rpm range is negligible. I also installed a plexiglass viewing window during troubleshooting. I love this bike and have not done any extreme off-roading with it. Mainly paved roads. I do most of all the servicing and decided to have dealer do valve adjustments. Every valve had to be adjusted and a rocker shaft had to be replaced. Sorry about being long winded but just wanted you to know, I would buy one again after doing the proper research on prior servicing. I believe the past owner did not have the valves adjusted at 48K because of the cost. If I heard valves tapping when I purchased it I probably would have done it then. But it is done now and ready for world touring!
Glad you love the bike! Thanks for adding your valuable insight as well!!!
Doing the valve clearances with shims is fiddly but doable for the home mechanic as long as you have a micrometer . I only had one to replace made a note of the shim size for future reference . They are more reliable than screw and locknut adjustment though .
Absolutely SPOT ON...wen u said "DEAD RELIABLE"! ❤❤❤❤
Nice job here. I have had a 2009 R1200RT and a 2007 K1200LT. I really like the RT and it was low mileage, but the BMW reliability (or I should say the BMW dealership service departments) issues scared me away. I am aware of the final drive concerns of an older bike but I did not know of the rear case oil leak. Thanks for your help.
I bought a2010 GSAdv 1200 4 years ago Zero problem ,only 2 recalls ….just today she turned over to 110000 km
Never again a BMW for me. My 2008 1200GS (95000 km~ 62000mi) had for the second ! time ABS pump failure( new €1500 ) And Final drive failure ( second hand one for €900)+ labor + yearly inspection/ maintenance. Payed nearly € 3000.
It had regular service at the dealership since new and no off road driving. I bought it second hand a few years ago at the dealership. My conclusion: quality far below par, repair costs far above.
It's a fine ride though.
Tough luck there, Phillip! I’m sure I’d share your sentiment with that experience as well!
Absolutely agree with you I'm a fan of the old / 2 I would not buy anything newer than 1985
I've owned 30 or 40 of them over the course of my life so far have a 1150gs it's been a total piece of s***
I just bought a 2018 r1200gs with 5600 miles. Bike is like new. I love it! Paid 12.5. Best riding bike I’ve owned.
That's a winner right there!
I would have thought to check the final drive it would have been better to have it on the centre stand , and moving side to side would be a wheel bearing thing ( I’m asking the question )
That's definitely something to check both the wheel bearing and swingarm bearing
The leak on the balance shaft is a issue. But if you are very careful about the amount of oil you put in and check it correctly that will help lesson the issue. Also I have a 05 and have had the bike apart twice and did the seals twice. BMW dealer I talked to said to install those seals with a small dab or RTV sealant on the case where they come together. That pretty much will solve your oil leak issue.
Hey there. I have a 2010 GSA and just noticed for the first time a bit of oil on the skid pan. It's coming from the back of the motor for sure. I think I may have overfilled it a little while back and was assuming this was the issue. But now I'm hearing (in this video) of the common problem of a leak. Any way you could elaborate a bit on what might be causing it. Would greatly appreciate your input. Thanks
Just split my gs it’s a big job to replace the seals ,if you do it do the main seal balance shaft seal and the input and output gearbox seals +clutch. Trust me you only want to do it once .
I bet!
Hi you are Dem right my man I have old model 2000 and 1 GS alloy wheel alloy wheel that is good the problem is the think is 19 anytime only but is a strong bike strong bike thank you for your device
Ssory 19 liters tenk
Look out for having to do a ABS pump replacement. Thousands of dollars! 2004 r1200gs.
Thanks for the heads up!
Afaik they produce gs1200 since 2005
You can just Bypass the ABS and forget about it. It still Stops the same.
I have always wanted one but I wasn’t familiar with it and was skeptical of the cost to own. So I went with Tenere 700 and never looked back.
That may be my next one!
Thanks mate, I looked at new ones just yesterday, holy shit you can throw some serious $$$ at them.
I think a 1200 will be just as good.
Thanks for that. I’m looking at 2008 r100gs with 20K miles
By the way, how much does your bike weigh all loaded?
I honestly couldn’t tell you on the weight. I’m sure the manufacturers wet weight is close, but ultimately- loaded weight depends on what you are bringing.
Now that you've owned an africa twin, do you think it's a good idea to buy a older Low mile r1200gs vs a used africa twin 1000?
As far as getting it out of neutral- have you tried applying a little downward pressure on the gear shifter while simultaneously letting go of the clutch slightly? That usually works on BMWs!
Thanks for the tip!
Great video! I’m picking up a new 1250gs This week 🤙 New sub
Love my 2016 GSA.
I live in Wales UK, thre's a r1100 gs with 296000 km for sale here, still up and running lol
You mentioned in your video that you're using a 50/50 tire but I'm wondering which tire brand? Thx
I believe I was using a trailmax mission at that time.
I had an 1150GS, probably my most favorite bike I ever had. That said, they are expensive to have worked on especially at a BMW dealership.
On the other hand, they are very easy to work on if you diy. The parts, etc are fairly priced if you shop around!
And heavy and old..
Headed to the shop this morning with my one owner ‘13 oil cooled. I’ve got a sinking feeling it’s a blown main rear seal at 27k. Wish me luck.
@@calartian85 yep… that is the news you don’t want!
I just did 2 days ago a R 1250 ADV HP 2020
Great video.hello from florida waiting on my 2022 Gsa.where you from
?
Awesome!!! Congrats! We are located outside of St. Louis, MO.
I ride motorcycles all my life I’m 63 I had Hondas kawasakis Yamaha and never have problems I said it’s time to get a bmw and did it now I have the 2010 Adventure 30 anniversary and was disappointed in the beginning, start to burn oil, strap sensor for fuel, now after 9k when I seriously think on sale it, everything works fine so I’m going to keep it, to much electronics is the key to stay away for issues
Sorry you have had so many issues!
It happens to me exactly ,I have 2010 30 anniversary, start to burn oil and fuel sensor change it few times under garantie, and when think of sale , everything works fine so I keep it, I have a 2002 fz1 with 62000 miles never got a mayor issue
Hey there. I have a 2010 GSA and just noticed for the first time a bit of oil on the skid pan. It's coming from the back of the motor for sure. I think I may have overfilled it a little while back and was assuming this was the issue. But now I'm hearing (in this video) of the common problem of a leak. Any way you could elaborate a bit on what might be causing it. Would greatly appreciate your input. Thanks
Hey, Jim! Honestly, it's been a while since that issue, so I don't remember exact details. That sounds almost exactly how it shows up. There are 2 leaks that show oil in the same spot. One is about a $7 fix and the other is a few hundred dollar fix. The problem is the whole bike needs to be split in half to determine which one it is and THAT is where the big money comes in - the labor...
@@bfeadventures - Thanks Alex
Excellent résumé. One of my worries would be, for example, if the rear shock goes, it's about 3 and a half grand to replace it .
That’s always a consideration! However, I don’t think that tends to be a weak point on these guys. Enjoy the ride!
@@bfeadventures 3500 for a rear shock? People says a lot of stupid thinghs. And howewer ESA shock are revisionable
Try Wilbers or ohlins to transform the handling
Thanks mate for info 🤝👌 all the best!!! Hi from London 🇱🇹 🇬🇧
Have you rode the vstrom 800DE? If so, would you still buy a pre-2013 GS
I'm considering a 2013 or 2014 r1200gs myself versus a 2022 Kawasaki klr 650 for a second motorcycle to start doing some offroad riding on it like gravel and fire service roads and eventually the mid Atlantic bdr that starts about a hour away from me. I have ridden both the new klr and two 2017 bmw r1200gs so I know how both bikes ride . But I torn to Kawasaki because of the cheaper price? What you're opinion and what would you choose.
If you are not getting into anything more aggressive than gravel roads and occasional double track, I think you will find value in the BMW. I have also owned a KLR. It is a very reliable steed. I will say though as I progress through motorcycles, I now see the value in the higher price tag in many cases. If this is only going to be a secondary motorcycle, do you mind me asking what your primary bike is? That may help me give you a better opinion.
Heya! I have owned a KLR myself, sold a few months ago because of work from home and haven’t been riding it much. My 2c, the KLR will be brilliant if you are going to be doing some heavy off roaring because of its weight. The GS is obviously heavier and bigger and higher! The only downside to the KLR is that it is very slow in terms of its top speed.
Single cylinder motorcycles are fine for little blasts here and there. On motorways I want power to avoid dangers and rapidly overtake.
I just bought an 08 1200GS with 75,000 Mike's on it. Seems to ride real well. I have no problem getting mine out of neutral but getting it into neutral- that's a whole different ball game.
It’s funny how they can be the same bike but have such different quirks!
@BFE Adventures The joys of mass production and tolerances. Have you come across the unexpected engine cut out when changing down yet? Happened to me within hours of collecting mine and apparently is a thing on some of them.
@@cliveadams7629 yep! I occasionally get that when I blip the throttle on a downshift. haha
My 2012 will cut out sometimes if I blip the throttle kinda hard from idle or when downshifting. There is a fuel pump recall I need to have done, but I’m not that worried about it.
@@robertatkins272 same issues here - not a big enough problem to address
you're totally true...driving the same bike! 2 things: true, it can be hard to get it in gear...before I had the 1150...at the trafficlights I would never put it in neutral...sometimes I had to kick it into gear!!! In dutch we say: it's pretty grumpy mortorblock. People who drive this the first time think it will fall apart...haha. With the 1200 I got less problems...saying that..it happens sometimes. Fuel strip: strange, when I bought it, it was totally unreliable, but after a couple of fill ups, it totally worked perfect. I only drive the motor, don't own a car. On the other hand I heard stories that people had it repaired....very costly, like everything on a BMW...love your vid.
Thank you! Enjoy your 1200!
On my 2006 GS the Gear Box is smooth as ever. No problems at all, not clunky just smooth shifting.
I own an 2008 BMW R1200RT.
121k kilometres.
No oil loss.
Nice video. I rented a 2008 R1200GS in Australia a few years ago, it had 140000km (87500 miles) on it and it was a rental bike that had probably been dropped over a hundred times over the years (it had many scars)...and it felt like a brand new bike, from brakes to suspensions, to engine it was flawless. With that said I've seen one of these having it's clutch replaced...and the bike basically has to be completely disassembled to make it happen. I had a 2018 RNineT and it was taking 1L of oil per 10000km...and BMW said anything under 4L per 10000km was within specs...which is pretty insane on a modern bike. Valves are easy to check but the maintenance schedule is ridiculously high. Then you can find many having driving shaft failures at 100000km (60000miles). ABS modules and electronic suspensions are extremely expensive to fix on the later models.
Super comfortable, fun bike, but I wouldn't consider it as my own for the reasons mentioned above.
Great points!
Shaft failure isn't as common if maintained decently. ABS only up to 2007 a prob. Clutch around 100K Km/60k miles - terrible repair.
Rust on subframe may be a problem atleast 2013 and younger.
My 2011 uses 800ml-1000ml every 10000km as well.
Suspension is to be maintained at a specialist around 260€ per demper if you take them off the bike yourself, every 5-7 yrs or 60K km. 2014 and up are around 370 per demper. Expensive and not really possible to maintain yourself. Make sure to check if you still have damping, harder to feel up front.
Maintenance is easy to do yourself on this bike, reason I got it myself.
Also: exhaust valve will cease. If you work it often it ll remain working. I gave up and decoupled the cables in the module closest to the engine, not the exhaust itself. On 2014 and up it is fully connected. Pre 2013 you can disconnect it from the exhaust system if wished for. In 'idle' mode it stays open
@@joost1183 is clutch still hard to repair on newer like 2018 models
Its a flat twin store it on the mainstand .
@@protectork9831The Clutch is up front on the newer models, so it’s a lot easier to Repsir if ever needed. On the older Models, the Clutch is at the back of the Motor. So you have to pretty much remove or Pivot the rear Frame up to get to the Clutch.
Nice video and I love my 13 GSA as well. But you left out the #1 BMW boomer the FUEL PUMP needs to be upgraded over the OEM one. BMW fuel pumps are trash.. 👍🏾👍🏾GS
GREAT point!
Thanks for the insight. I'm in SC and planning to pickup a used one this coming week, 2007 R1200GSA with over 100k miles. Thanks for helping me know what to look for!
Would love to link up for a ride!
Good luck with your purchase! We are in NC on tours occasionally. We would love to meet up!
@@bfeadventures Likewise!
I was wondering if you purchased a bike yet?
@@manuelrivera6873 Yeah... and the bike runs awesome! I need to rebuild the ABS (or pay $250 to get it done), but the 2007 brakes still work when ABS fails. Has 107.5k miles.
@@bfeadventures Do you guys have a forum you post rides on?
King of Adv that s when bm shines
The fuel strip issue will be covered by BMW for bikes up to 12 years old so have your friend check into it.
Thanks for the heads up!
I have an 1150 GSA with 133k on it. Will never part with it.
Good video, so this is a 2011 or 12 GSA?
2011
What’s your opinion on how many miles is too many miles for a used gs?
Honestly - miles are arbitrary- I think it matters more on the owner. I know I personally would not be concerned at 50-60k miles if it comes from a good owner.
Reliable???? You must be joking! I have a 2007 GS and it has been a cluster of failures. I am on my third fuel pump and it has failed with a rusty motor, and it is now showing yet again a crack at the fuel connector. The strip sensor, third one, is also showing some signs of ill health. I have had a new ECU too!!!! A number of tyre pressure sensors . Of course, the shaft balancer seal too, etc etc. Front shock leaking, final transmission rubber boot cracking, indicator stems becoming sticky then cracking, the list is endless ( the weather maybe a factor, I am in Phuket, Thailand but that is NO excuse!!!. I could go on but you get the drift. Cheers.
Holy cow! Now that is some misfortune! I’m sorry to hear all of that!
In one sentence this review states the bike is dead reliable, then in another sentence states the case has to be split due to know issues with oil leakage. High cost repair at dealer. Contradictory. Another issue is limited BMW dealers and backlog of repairs equals transportation costs, long travel and wait times for repairs. Higher ownership costs than Japanese bikes. As our goal is more riding time and low cost of ownership this motorcycle is not the king in those areas. Any less featured motorcycle can be modified to meet the riders needs.
@@f42un84u great point. I was trying to portray that the majority of these bikes are ridden many miles with no issues. However, if they do, they can be costly. I don't disagree though. That is why the GS was replaced with an Africa Twin. Ride safe out there!
thanks you know your onions !
*YES*
Did you ever try an Africa Twin?
I owned one and LOVED it! I also have a review on that bike on this channel!
Like a lot of things the GS- GSA is a great bike till it breaks, then you better hope whatever’s wrong is covered by warranty if you have one otherwise pretty much everything on these bikes is ridiculously expensive. 💰💰💰
Hey where’s my little heart thingie? 😹
That’s a great point! Overall, these bikes do have rather proven reliability!
@@bfeadventures Yes I’ve herd that but I herd just a new headlight Is $1,500. I’m thinking of buying one. 🤟The new ones are beautiful but again 💰💰💰
That’s why I would suggest a slightly used one AND a headlight guard! 😜 I will say, you get what you pay for. In the ADV world, nothing is cheap outside of a KLR/DR. Lol If you are looking for something more budget friendly, check out our review including the Super Tenere. Another option is a CB500X. Check out our review on that soon!
not sure where you buy your parts from, but i have only been impressed with the cost of bits for mine, worse failure i have had is a gearbox, and i managed to get a second hand gearbox from a wrecked bike for $1000. a couple of my mates are riding harleys and buells and theyn spend more than that on their tassles and belt buckles
No thanks my friend, I got rid of mine too heavy, not very capable of rough off road tracks. I exchanged it for a tiger 800 xca which although not totally an off-road machine it’s mucho better than my gsa so sorry I was fooled by what everyone said about the beemers off-road capability.
She is definitely a big girl off-road! Glad you found the right bike for you! I spend more off-road time on the Africa Twin now and may even go with the T7 to get even more rowdy
I just picked up a 2008. Mine also doesn't like to get out of neutral. It's not terribly difficult and not persistent, but it gets annoying. Did you ever figure out what was causing it?
Never did. Small price to pay for a great bike though!
@@bfeadventures It's been my dream bike for about 15 years. My fuel gauge failed today, it was my 3rd time riding the bike since I bought it. I found a trick online where you zap the connector pins with a modified lighter and it worked lol (but for how long..). The bike only has 28,000 miles on it and it's very clean for a 2008 so I am very happy with the purchase.
@@brandvik9172 good to know the lighter trick! 😂
Hi there, mine was a 2010 GS and also did that. I remember the first time it happened I was stopped at an intersection and in neutral, and I could not get it into first gear. For some reason I rolled forward, and that allowed me to shift.
I asked the service department and they said that’s normal behavior (I forget why). Since then, I would always pull in the clutch, give it a rev of gas, and then drop I to neutral and it worked.
Please let me say, this happened on both by 2009 and my 2010 GS.
It is a really solid machine, and the only issues I had were prematurely wearing down the clutch (due to too much feathering), and then around 90K a u-joint on the drive shaft failed. Along the way there were the occasional seal failures, but nothing that I would call a major problem. The clutch replacement is a big deal because of the labor cost associated with splitting the bike in two. All in all, it ends up being around eight hours worth of time, something like that.
Still an absolutely amazing excellent machine, particularly with that antidive front suspension.
The Fuel strip IS a big deal. The new part along costs over $200 then you have the labor since you can't simply install the stupid thing, it has to be calibrated by a computer. To have this repair done is over $500 to replace an electrical wire. Very stupid design to save few ounces.
All good points! So, until then, trip meter it is! Haha
What do you mean used?
By used, I mean whether it’s worth buying a pre owned R1200GS. Enjoy!
@@bfeadventures thanks for answering. If it is used, you have to examine it one by one. There are more factors than the reliability of the producers.
It all depends on your attitude. Todays bikes are full of electronic sophistication and they need regular servicing. And by that I mean dealer logbook servicing. You know the rule about not buying a car without a service history, right? Well it's the same for a bike these days. Long gone are the days when you could do it yourself. Most manufacturers also have tamper proof ECUs that only a factory dealer can reset. Jake at your local bike shop might think his scanner he bought from Amazon can do that? Well no. It can't. Manufacturers like BMW have invested millions into their dealer networks and they are now making sure that they get the servicing business just like the car dealers do. So wanna buy a used GS? Meet the seller at the dealer and pay the $100 for them to do a proper scan. It's all there and if the stamps are not in the log book, walk away.
If you had to live with only one, gs or africa twin
I’d pick the AT because I like to get silly off-road. If it was primarily a pavement princess, I’d pick the GS every time.
You must be rich to buy a new one.You constantly pick these things up for half the price with 20 000km or les on the clock....why on earth buy a new one??? Its a toy.....
Great point!
Same story with pretty much any vehicles....
It completely doesn't make sense financially.
Already did...
Till 2008 was bloody servo brakes! If you dont need abs,you can buy gs 2004-2008
let some one whos paid 20k plus run in your next GS , let them do the first services , find and fix any faults , add all the extras , and take 30% depreciation in two years ,,,
then buy it pre loved
The real question here is why should anyone buy a new GS.
Is that even a question? You should totally buy a used GS!
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They are asking almost original selling price for these… nope I will not buy it.
I think you could find a GS in GREAT shape for under $10k. Base models started around $15k. Whether or not it is worth it depends on the way you plan to ride and what your budget allows.
Used Yamaha S10. 12' for
@@bseidem5112 Sadly, I sold my '12 S10 for $6500 2 years ago. The market has exploded lately! The S10 is an incredible bike for
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Camo with a GS? No BMW branding on the camo? Sacrilege!!!
Right!? 🤣
A Pan American is best. I've owned a GS .
I would argue that it depends what you are doing with the bike. I have heard RAVE reviews of the Pan-Am though!
Great video, bad audio
Great video
Thanks!
My 14,000 mile - 2016 ❤️ GSA Rocks. At $15,555 the poor Bro’ who lost out to CoVid 🦠 should rest in peace, knowing his steed is in a good place / warm garage ❣️