You don't get it bc you're only looking at prices. A PS console, pro or not, going for 700 and wo disc support + no stand included means the next PS will also have things stripped plus a price hike. Sony is getting away w/ it bc they're dominating this console gen. Its the same ol' corporate story: Consumer is getting bent over but its happening somewhat gradually so they're taking it. Very happy to be seeing constant pushback on the PS5 Pro! 👍👍
@@kejuanh87 Yea, thats what I always do, plus all the accessories like controller that comes in the pro box. A used PS5 on ebay is around 375 value right now, controller is probably 60-70, so its about 450 off the cost. Its not that expensive to upgrade.
@@angeloferreira9173Yeah they got to hype it up even though they know it's awful. So they can bag a free $700 console or get blacklisted by sony for negative reviews. Typical IGN hype up for a free console!
For cross gen games. Same as PS6 it will be the 4k60fps machine for the PS5/Series generation of games. Devs mostly aim for the 30fps mode and try to get a decent 60fps mode now due the amount of players that like 60fps. Consoles will never have 5ghz CPUs so you aren't going to get 4k60fps for current gen games with current generation hardware. Besides random exceptions like Kojima with a Decima engine or something built in house engine and all.
Sony said it 60 fps/8k 60fps was supposed to be standard. And remember not even in ps5 pro mayority of games reach it. Its only those few chosen games.
@anhtdang92 I'm not talking about the price, only the willing adoption of it among users (in the gaming space). Of course, in the console space, 4k TVs are more commonplace in living rooms than 4K monitors are for pc's. Need to have content at that resolution in order for it to make sense to buy a display of that resolution.
Cpuld care less about more resolution at this point, how about we catch up with frame rate. Most pcs can run games higher than 120hz it's time for consoles to start focusing more on. Performance now.
lol man some of you guys here bitching are totally insane. This console is not for you. Sony is allowed to present higher tiers for other buyers. You do not have to buy it. The regular PS5 is just fine. But to say $700 is too much is wrong. It costs more to make this hardware now and inflation has ruined the cost of many parts. It just is what it is. From what I’ve seen the frame rate increases alone will be worth it.
@@iseerashonal821 It was both ways around because these corporations rob us working together both by price gouging and corrupting our politicians . Ruled by criminals ...Merican freedumb!
Doesn’t work like that .. idk why you people say this , people have different opinions they don’t go with what’s the popular opinion & that’s hating everything
It's not about what Sony can afford, it's about how much money they can squeeze out of gaming enthusiasts. They're selling the PS5Pro for profit, unlike the base PS5.
Awesome 👌 I got mine after 1hr and 31min of trying lol the website was absolutely hammered here in Australia for EB Games which is basically like GameStop.
Sony should release a high-end $2000 PS5 alongside the $699 model, with top-tier graphics performance. This would eliminate the technical headaches I face with my PC, such as game crashes, complicated settings, and reliance on third-party software like NVIDIA. A console like this would offer a simple, optimized gaming experience that a PC often fails to provide.
Yes! This is honestly an excellent idea. Every new console generation, they should release a base model, and then the Pro model would be for REAL gaming enthusiasts and be on par with high-end PCs and be priced around $2000 like you said. Or even more. 6-7K maybe? Like top of the line capabilities across the board. A PlayStation System, if you will. Rather than a console.
Yeah if the box allowed upgradable components that are Sony approved, just like upgrading a normal PC then I'd be all in on that, if not the cost of upgrading to a _whole_ brand new system would be more expensive than the highest end PC gaming which wouldn't make enough sense having to do that every few years. The PS5 Pro currently has a great balance of performance per dollar as its still relatively cheap for the performance you're getting compared to comparable PCs as its still impossible to build one for the same price point of the Pro. It's currently somewhere in between a mid range and highest end gaming PC which is good enough for me and most people. Sure it can't do path traced Cyberpunk 2077 lol but most PC games can't do anything that amazing anyways.
@@craigsampson3386 are you being serious when you say you want a £2000 ps5? What would honestly be the point? Why wouldn't you get a pc that does so much more??
I personally see enough value in it to buy it. I’m a console gamer and there are games that come to PS that don’t go to PC and it’s just my preferred method of gaming. It has an included 2 terabyte HDD this time and people seem to be forgetting about this. I see the value and will purchase for sure.
The games that are built from the ground up with the pro in mind are the games I’m waiting for. That’s where the system will shine. Day one purchase for me!
That's the flaw in your comparison. If it's an fps difference, then that's wonderful if it can run much better at higher fps. Not going to notice that in an image.
Exactly, it helps explain why the 2TB model Xbox Series X is only $100 usd cheaper than the PS5 Pro, but arguably the Xbox is worse value with a disc drive nobody uses ballooning the price and also its still old 2020 hardware in an old 2020 box with no refresh slim design either.
Which is a very smart strategy. The reason Sony leaves out the disk drive is because they really want a digital only future where they can dictate the price. They don't like that Amazon and other retailers tend to heavily discount games after a very short time which eats into their profit margin. Spider-Man 2 and God of War: Ragnarok are around 45 on Amazon. They are still 70 on the Playstation Store. And Digital is all profit - there is no pressing the disc, logistics and shipping cost.
After consideration over the last few weeks since the PS5 Pro announcement, I preordered mine yesterday. As a regular console player (I'm definitely no hard-core gamer, but play most days), I want the best PlayStation experience in my living room, and a £700 investment on a new console (which of course will go up once I buy new covers, controllers etc) over the next 3 - 4 years doesn't seem a huge amount to me. Once I swap out the disk drive from my PS5 Slim into the Pro, I will then also have a nice compact(ish) console that I can use in my home office as a second PS5. Whilst I understand the arguments around price (and yes, it is considerably more than any previous mainstream console and is certainly unaffordable for a lot of people), and I appreciate that I could build a PC to match the performance of the Pro. However the simple fact is I don't want to build or play on a PC! I love the convenience of playing in my living room, on a console that hides away under my TV unit, that I can grab a controller, switch it on and start playing in a few seconds. I like the Playstation setup, so why would I want to change? I'm sure there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of other people like me, that have no interest in PC gaming, but just want the best experience on their home console - and that is who I feel the PS5 Pro is aimed at. You can still have a great experience with the base PS5, but I just want that little bit more, and I am happy to pay for it!
All these clowns crying about the Pro….this console is NOT MEANT FOR YOU! Personally I’m ordering day 1 and gaming is my cheapest hobby, this is a no brainer for me. No one is forcing you to buy this, stick with the base console.
People just mad that it doesn't come with a disc drive and stand. I'm sure if those things were included people wouldn't be so mad about the ps5 pro. It's definitely a want and not a need. I'll hold onto my base ps5 and put my money elsewhere, for now. Switch two and crossing fingers for an actual Sony handheld.
@@streetlive05 People are mad because the Pro is basically a robbery at this point: there is hardly if any difference and it costs twice as much as the base ps5... That's the reason people are upset and they have the right to be...
Why is everyone trying to say that the PS5 and Pro is exactly them same…it isn’t. Each consumer needs to figure out if upgrading or buying this instead of a PS5 is worth it? Only you can answer that. DF noted improvements in most of the games they looked. Especially FF7 Rebirth as is confirmed here. Don’t hate if you can’t afford this mid gen refresh. Gotta hope that most upcoming third party titles will offer a Pro option for fidelity settings. I’m sure GTA6 will drive some consumers to buy the pro.
The ps5 pro is the real ps5 and the ps5 is the ps4 pro. People complaining about the ps5 pro knowing that they don't have too buy it. Cause they still have the regular ps5.
But the official playstation podcast from IGN was pretty negative. And I'm saying that lightly. Now there's probably going to be very positive going forward. Can't take these guys serious...
Another benefit of the ps5 pro is that it will give u excellent gaming until this generation finishes like for another 4 years or so. We still have a ways to go and I'm sure if anyone who bought a ps5 pro would have benefited no matter the price tag. 700 for excellent quality now and for another 4 years if not better quality games by then isn't that bad at all
Why are there people here talking about hardware that clearly have no idea about hawldware. It what adds to this situation of false information constantly being spread. We were playing in 8K or an upscale version of 8K. Native and upscaled from internal resolution are very different. Especially AMD upscale FSR which is very poor, I’m yet to see if their AI will be anything like DLSS Yes, it focused on fidelity as they have only changed the GPU not CPU. So there is not processing power change here!
maybe because they dont mention no mechanics version, how overpriced it is or how little upgrade it is compared to ps5 that you have to zoom in to details in the background that nobody notices
Great convo guys! Thought you all gave a great pro and con debate. I'm probably gonna be upgrading to the ps5 pro. Still playing my ps3. Really feeling like its worth it having skipped the ps4. Lol.
Whether to upgrade to a PS5 Pro depends on a few factors: Performance Needs: If you want enhanced graphics, faster load times, and better performance in games, the Pro version may be worth it. Game Library: Consider if upcoming games take advantage of the PS5 Pro's capabilities. If you’re excited about titles that will utilize its features, an upgrade could be beneficial. Current System Satisfaction: If you're happy with your current PS5's performance and game selection, you might choose to wait. Budget: Assess if the upgrade fits your budget and if the benefits align with your gaming habits. Ultimately, if enhanced performance and future-proofing are priorities for you, upgrading might be a good choice. Otherwise, sticking with your current console could be just fine for now.
So let me get this straight... One comment was Dragons dogma 2 was terrible and stuttery on the standard PS5, but on the pro it run at a locked 60fps.. They then go on to say we don't know what the difference was After they say GT7 at 8k was spectacular... But then ask why the Pro is 700... The bias is comical The console isnt expensive, it's just MORE expensive than the last iteration. You can't ask "why is it this price" then simultaneously say it's running games twice as good and you're very impressed😂😂 Silly comments.
What the hell is she talking about? Handheld PC’s are double the price of the pro. The steam deck although a cheaper rendition of a PC handheld is completely inferior to the pro and all other mobile PC’s not to mention the best version of the steam deck is $600 without a stand.🙄
This was a great discussion, but it seems like many people didn’t watch the entire video and are just complaining. IGN did a solid job explaining the details. At no point did they say you have to buy the PS5 Pro. They even emphasized that if you already own a base PS5, there’s no real need to upgrade. The Pro model is more for newcomers to the PS5 who are willing to spend $699. Like everyone else, they weren’t thrilled with the $699 price tag and still seem somewhat unconvinced, but they do understand the value of the extra $200.
Rebirth looks awful on PS5 for me the real reason to get a pro is the huge visual improvements for ff7 Rebirth. However, I’ve already finished it and will probably not being doing a second playthrough due to feeling disappointed by the game in general and the awful visuals put me off of wanting to play it again.
Not once has anyone mentioned that yes, you can buy a PC for the price of a pro, but some people aren't "setting screen players", some people just want to turn on a console and play, and the pro allows you to do that.
You sound like a idiot. A 400 pc does the samething as a 4000 dollar pc. Plays the exact same games. Just simply higher frames & better resolutions. Same as ps5 pro. The 4000 pc doesn't change the fact you're playing the exact same game just like the ps5 pro wont change the game outside of resolution & frames.
new rumours suggest that the PS6 will be backwards compatible with the PS5 and PS4 as well. for those with a large library of games across the generations, it makes sense to get the console. as building a PC means repurchasing the games you probably already have on your console be it physical or digital.
The best solution wasn't even mentioned in the news piece and it's what I am waiting for, is an Asus ROG Ally X but running native Steam OS but with an eGPU do "dock" it. So it's got loads of power when docked, is portable, access to PlayStation and Xbox games on one machine and will run smooth like a console without all the PC quirks thanks to Steam OS. Yes will it be more expensive than a PS5 Pro but it does so much more.
Meanwhile in a parallel world; a game with cartoon graphics of a princess releases with an innovative take on gameplay to sell a few million. This makes the fans happy and has a sustainable / large profit margin for business.
PC is great, but come January there’s a lot of PlayStation first party exclusives coming that won’t hit PC for years and they will be taking advantage of of the Ps5 Pro, so it’s down to whether you want to miss all of that.
Honestly 60fps should be the new default minimum expectation. At least always an option. 8k is a silly thing I'll have no interest in for the next 10 years or never.
Not 700 impressive I'm sure. If this was my first console in years sure. But having a ps5, switch, pc, and series x. Its hard to justify such a dumb price.
In a way it would be nice if they made the consoles with upgrade-able GPU's instead of having Pro consoles. The enhanced GPU could have an AI accelerator for PSSR much like Nvidia does with DLSS and frame-gen.
@lbpk5786 but then you're still left with the same CPU and RAM which are over clocked in the Pro, not to mention the larger box it's wrapped in for cooling.
We all knew the PS5 Pro was going to impress. This is why I just get tired of being on the internet where everyone shuts off their brain and quickly jumps on the hatewagon before ever trying out a product themselves. And then you have these disingenuous content creators who keep putting out clickbait of anything sensational just to make a quick buck. It’s getting old and annoying especially when all these videos are coming out now with people backpedaling on the Pro, like we all already didn’t know how well the console was going to perform 🧐
guaranteed the vast majority of those haterade guzzlers weren't planning to buy one anyway, so they want to throw negativity at those who are considering it
Supply line excuses and components not getting any cheaper, but lets go ahead and make a console that costs 100% more than it should and offers nothing drastically new. No one will notice. Such a brilliant business decision 🙄
We already can notice, take your ps5 and try 30 fps fidelity mode. If you are satisfied with it and don't mind the choppy fps, that's all good and well. If you like 60 fps mode and don't mind the visual downgrade, then the ps5 is the best console for you. However, if like the fidelity mode is best but bothered by 30 fps caps, then Sony has more expensive options for you.
@@faisalmohamed328 This is exactly it. To the average consumer (such as myself) there is little reason to buy a PS5 pro as it would offer very poor value for money even if you didn't already have the base version. (Especially if you have a substantial library of physical games) But the super-fan power-users who really care about top-notch frame rates will be the ones who buy this, and they are the sliver of the market that this device has been created for.
The cpu is a huge issue because they didn’t change it so warhammer won’t hit 60fps and games happening rt won’t hit high fps because it hammers the cpu even harder. This is a same fps but higher resolution upgrade for aaa games unless the game is not using the cpu much.
You have zero clue what you’re talking about several of these games are 4k60 with ray tracing and they have some at 4k 120 with ultra settings but ray tracing off 😅 keep on with the coping
@@TheKing8608_ironic since you have zero clue on how vital a cpu is 😂. Clown type comment. Also, they’re not native 4k, they’re upscaled. You’re playing games at 1440p at most
@@merathe9391 ok but the picture quality is right next to native 4k, so it’s not a problem when a 4090 using DLSS does it but the pro uses the same tech it’s a problem 🤣
Kat made a really good point what happens when new games come out and they drop frame rate significantly on the original PS5. I feel like I’ve been scammed by sony. PS5 Pro is what we were promised but I bought a PS5 original at launch a system that still had to pander to the PS4 games and people that couldn’t afford it.
One thing many people forget when say can get pc for similar price. If one buy ps5 pro who already have ps4/ps5 console. They keep their library. If they move to pc, they need to restart their library. Ie even if pro cost more, might be cheaper option for many still.
Sony have made an optional modular disc drive attachment for the little people left like yourself who still use or want one, so just go buy that. If you _don't_ buy you're literally signalling to Sony even less people use discs now and they probably won't even make _any_ sort of disc drive for the PS6. If you have a tantrum and say you're done with console gaming then PC hasn't had disc based games for a long time now and their systems are always more expensive than any new console.
@@DarksideofDarby "Sony has revealed 79 per cent of all PS5, PS4 games sold during its latest fiscal quarter were for the digital version. This represents a dramatic increase for the start of fiscal year 2022; a 13 per cent boost over fiscal year 2021 to be exact, when two-thirds of games were purchased digitally." article from 29th July 2022. So yeah with the overwhelming vast majority of games purchases being digital now, even more by 2024 now, including a disc drive as standard on the PS5 Pro, or _any_ Playstation console from now on is just dumb to expect lmao why balloon the cost of your console with unnecessary expensive hardware? Xbox is guilty of this, atleast Playstation offer a unique modular disc drive attachment to add on separately which accommodates the remaining small percentage of users without upsetting the masses who prefer digital now. Maybe if Xbox could've put in the effort for a refreshed slim console like Sony they might’ve made an optional modular disc drive attachment aswell... but they didn't because Xbox is selling like trash and it isn't worth putting in the money to that platform.
Games. New Games. I play all those games with my PS5 and the experience was awesome. Show the PRO with some new great games. Make people actually want to buy a PRO by offering totally new experiences. If all the games shown were never released before, and first seen during the PRO trailer, Sony would much more positive feedback here despite the high price (which would still be viewed as too high). Oh well….the narrative is what it is. An improved console, with lackluster games at the moment, living a lot off past performances. Hoping the ship can be course corrected. (Looking at you Ghosts 2!). Until then…….Best!
The hardware is only good if the developers actually invest itself in it. We’ve seen what PSV is capable of with a good development team. MGSV released on PS3 and ran smoother than most games released to date on modern consoles. Games run 60fps but the cutscenes don’t.🤦🏻♂️
the PlayStation will be the best place to play vr with the best vr games to come in the upcoming years 2d gaming may never really see the full power of the ps5 pro
Console players are getting their first taste of PC pricing and they don't like it. Hate to tell you, but consoles are about to become much more expensive moving forward. PS6 and the next Xbox will be around the same price. Once you get into high-end parts the price to performance ratio skyrockets.
Just to be clear, this video isn't scripted at all. The people in the video have their own opinions, thus not really lying for sure. The title might be misleading, sure. But roasting in the comments and not watching the whole video won't fix the problem. Besides, I hate spam bots and comment trolls! Especially the stupid UTTP (UTubeTrollPolice) jerks who bother fans of SMG4 and other great content creators by spamming "Rage-Baiting" messages in the replies. I hope scalping and rage-baiting becomes illegal.
1. What they are selling now is the gat was promised for ps5 base 2. Price wise it is not sensible. There is no significant difference in he for a 50% increase 3. It is disgusting how ign presents it in such biased way. We remember how you lied about cyberpunk. You lied about ps5. Now another set of lies.
Whats impressive about it? Spending a bunch of cash to fix poorly optimised games that really should have looked better on base PS5 and insignificant imporovements to some firat party games that in some respects have even seen downgrades such as geometry in Ratchet and drops to native res in a handful of others
In my opinion. If you got the ps5 at launch. Not the slim. Have a huge PS library. Pro is worth it if you can AFFORD it. If you can’t keep playing the regular PS5
You don't have to buy it. It is a VIP console. Just like you aren't forced to buy a 4090 if you have a PC.
@ChileanSpartanUSA exactly and people crying about price sell your current ps5 and that's 200 bucks off the pro.
I preordered one. This will be my fourth PS5 in our house.
@@danbooke2001same preordered it
You don't get it bc you're only looking at prices. A PS console, pro or not, going for 700 and wo disc support + no stand included means the next PS will also have things stripped plus a price hike. Sony is getting away w/ it bc they're dominating this console gen. Its the same ol' corporate story: Consumer is getting bent over but its happening somewhat gradually so they're taking it. Very happy to be seeing constant pushback on the PS5 Pro! 👍👍
@@kejuanh87 Yea, thats what I always do, plus all the accessories like controller that comes in the pro box. A used PS5 on ebay is around 375 value right now, controller is probably 60-70, so its about 450 off the cost. Its not that expensive to upgrade.
Sorry IGN. You’re not fooling anyone with this.
They get invited to an event and now its all good with the PS5 Pro… or next time Sony invites someone else
@@angeloferreira9173Yeah they got to hype it up even though they know it's awful. So they can bag a free $700 console or get blacklisted by sony for negative reviews. Typical IGN hype up for a free console!
@@angeloferreira9173 Or maybe hear me out... it's actually a good system just too expensive for you 🫨
xbox is much better
@@ammonitida LOL
You choose to show it off in a video that only puts out 1080p 😅
@@dwane3950 it’s 2180p on my iPhone ?
Blame youtube bitrates
@@PCgamerChannelGenuinely curious, what does bitrate have to do with IGN uploading only up to 1080p?
@@PCgamerChannel lol dude, yeah we know youtube bitrates suck and thats is why they should have uploaded the video in 4k.
@@PCgamerChannelits not youtube, it’s ign worried that digital foundry will dissect this video
It’s like everyone forgot ps5 was supposed to be a 4k 60fps machine
Same for Xbox.
Sony never said that. Check the marketing for each console. Now Xbox said something like that.
For cross gen games. Same as PS6 it will be the 4k60fps machine for the PS5/Series generation of games. Devs mostly aim for the 30fps mode and try to get a decent 60fps mode now due the amount of players that like 60fps. Consoles will never have 5ghz CPUs so you aren't going to get 4k60fps for current gen games with current generation hardware. Besides random exceptions like Kojima with a Decima engine or something built in house engine and all.
Sony never said that
Sony said it 60 fps/8k 60fps was supposed to be standard. And remember not even in ps5 pro mayority of games reach it. Its only those few chosen games.
People should stop complaining about the PS5 Pro and express their opinion with their wallet.
oh they will my friend
Showing PS5 Pro footage at 1080p with youtube compression is just embarrassing.
"8K adoption has been pretty slow"
What? 4K adoption has been pretty slow. 8K won't be worth mentioning for over a decade.
Really? You can get a 4k these days for
@anhtdang92 I'm not talking about the price, only the willing adoption of it among users (in the gaming space). Of course, in the console space, 4k TVs are more commonplace in living rooms than 4K monitors are for pc's. Need to have content at that resolution in order for it to make sense to buy a display of that resolution.
Cpuld care less about more resolution at this point, how about we catch up with frame rate. Most pcs can run games higher than 120hz it's time for consoles to start focusing more on. Performance now.
Yeah but it's okay if the Switch isn't even 4K 😂
if we are talking about native gameplay even a 4090 can't run 8k and that's IF u have the proper setup for it
lol man some of you guys here bitching are totally insane. This console is not for you. Sony is allowed to present higher tiers for other buyers. You do not have to buy it. The regular PS5 is just fine. But to say $700 is too much is wrong. It costs more to make this hardware now and inflation has ruined the cost of many parts. It just is what it is. From what I’ve seen the frame rate increases alone will be worth it.
Like seriously
People who can't afford it are mad that somebody else will have fun and will have better performance than them.
It's not "bitching", it's hardcore Sony fans feel conned by a minor upgrade and no stand or disc drive for 700 smackers!
Exactly, tell them NERD. They dont understand the power of more FPS, regardless of how outdated and old the game is. FPS is king.
You very much miss the point. This is what they promised us with base ps5.
IGN: "So How Much For The AD ?
Sony: "Yes"
@@YoshSams shouldn't this be the other way around?
@@iseerashonal821 It was both ways around because these corporations rob us working together both by price gouging and corrupting our politicians . Ruled by criminals ...Merican freedumb!
Doesn’t work like that .. idk why you people say this , people have different opinions they don’t go with what’s the popular opinion & that’s hating everything
@@MrAjking808it most certainly does work like that, are you new here?
Dumbass comment
We give the PS5 Pro 7/10
@@HandsomeBwonderful93 we give ign 0/10
Sony can't afford to include a vertical stand or a disk drive for the ps5 pro but has no problem bribing journalists for damage control 😂
PC players would not know anything about quality.
You just sit and complain on your sock accounts.
You lamos can't event crack 1K 😂
You sound stupid.
It's not about what Sony can afford, it's about how much money they can squeeze out of gaming enthusiasts. They're selling the PS5Pro for profit, unlike the base PS5.
20M PS5Pro consoles x extra £100 profit = extra £2B for Sony.
Perfect to fund PS6 development.
It’s clearly that you cannot afford it and that’s why you ranting
Here they come…
Pressed 😂
Who?
@@Frogdoddofficial the comments will answer your question
@@Frogdoddofficial the people that won't get scammed by sony😀
@@anarchy4102 ← found one of them 😂
Pre ordered. So many haters made it easy for me, thanks 🙏.
Shhh you can get two ps5 pro if you want 😂😂😂
Awesome 👌 I got mine after 1hr and 31min of trying lol the website was absolutely hammered here in Australia for EB Games which is basically like GameStop.
Sony should release a high-end $2000 PS5 alongside the $699 model, with top-tier graphics performance. This would eliminate the technical headaches I face with my PC, such as game crashes, complicated settings, and reliance on third-party software like NVIDIA. A console like this would offer a simple, optimized gaming experience that a PC often fails to provide.
Yes! This is honestly an excellent idea. Every new console generation, they should release a base model, and then the Pro model would be for REAL gaming enthusiasts and be on par with high-end PCs and be priced around $2000 like you said. Or even more. 6-7K maybe? Like top of the line capabilities across the board. A PlayStation System, if you will. Rather than a console.
Yeah if the box allowed upgradable components that are Sony approved, just like upgrading a normal PC then I'd be all in on that, if not the cost of upgrading to a _whole_ brand new system would be more expensive than the highest end PC gaming which wouldn't make enough sense having to do that every few years.
The PS5 Pro currently has a great balance of performance per dollar as its still relatively cheap for the performance you're getting compared to comparable PCs as its still impossible to build one for the same price point of the Pro. It's currently somewhere in between a mid range and highest end gaming PC which is good enough for me and most people. Sure it can't do path traced Cyberpunk 2077 lol but most PC games can't do anything that amazing anyways.
What the fuck are youse guys talking about?? A 2 thousand dollar console? This is a joke right, like I'm just really not getting it if it is
@@Spacecowboyy69 excuse me?
@@craigsampson3386 are you being serious when you say you want a £2000 ps5? What would honestly be the point? Why wouldn't you get a pc that does so much more??
I personally see enough value in it to buy it. I’m a console gamer and there are games that come to PS that don’t go to PC and it’s just my preferred method of gaming. It has an included 2 terabyte HDD this time and people seem to be forgetting about this. I see the value and will purchase for sure.
The games that are built from the ground up with the pro in mind are the games I’m waiting for. That’s where the system will shine. Day one purchase for me!
Finally, Pre Ordered ❤ can't wait to play this beast when it releases it.
@@playboygamerzone samo, pre-ordered and do not follow main stream, just going enjoy my time with PRO 🫶
Do these people really think consumer are stupid? IGN should stop making ads
Yes they do. And that makes THEM look really stupid.
Then watch digital foundry and don't come here if u don't trust ign simple
Wow Lord forbid anyone try to sell anything.
Y'all really have something else y'all want to complain about.
Seek help!
Well....people still pre order games..
You just proved that the consumer is stupid with your comment. Well done.
Corporate needs you to find the differences between this picture and this picture.
(PS5 Gameplay) Vs. (PS5 Pro Gameplay)
They're the same picture.
That's the flaw in your comparison. If it's an fps difference, then that's wonderful if it can run much better at higher fps. Not going to notice that in an image.
@@IvecoFrom2006 but according to the people IN the video, not as much. 2 of the people sitting here don't agree with it.
If you think those look the same, you should just play PS2, cuz you're actually blind
@@syndromeofadown21 that's kind of the point? To run ps5 fidelity mode at twice the frame rate, basically twice the performance? How is that bad?
Must be blind then 🤷
8k is better wow? Nothing runs in 8k. 1080p 120fps is still what most people are at just now.
The broke ones
Most people can barely afford dinner. A premium steak dinner is still great though regardless of who can eat it.
@@Luke973T It's not better when it's running at 3 fps
@@arifmunshi6833 gt7 was running at 3fps?
But ain't you the same ppl who had a different tone 🤔 last week
They didn't get the cheque from Sony yet😂😂😂😂
@parthgurnani-g2j no this thing is just a beast of a console everyone wanted to hate on before seeing what it actually was.
the obvious quality they saw may have shut their mouth.. but still people are bitching here in the comments (not especially you)
Here’s an idea if you don’t want to buy a pro don’t buy it it’s that simple
They want to so bad tho... 😢
Why does nobody factor in the 2TB SSD when complaining about the price.
@@gotime1124 bc they’re broke
Ikr, most 2tb SSDs are at least 150
@@xchxmpagnepxpix🤣🤣 Or some people aren't stupid...
They want reasons to throw a tantrum. Doesn't fit in with their objectives.
@@AKSBSU Wow. You Sony bots are becoming really lifelike.
A computer is also very impressive and versatile.
@@trappyboi8678 so is yo mama
@@SoraFinalForm47 Their mama has an impressive computer? Nice.
And much more expensive than a PS5 Pro if you want to match it.
Except it's not plug and Play and it doesn't have the thousands and thousands of dollars worth of the library that I've accumulated
but not as impressive as xbox series x and its backwards compatibility supported in HARDWARE!
Why does nobody talk about that your getting 2tb ssd of hard drive space??? That plays into the price!
Exactly, it helps explain why the 2TB model Xbox Series X is only $100 usd cheaper than the PS5 Pro, but arguably the Xbox is worse value with a disc drive nobody uses ballooning the price and also its still old 2020 hardware in an old 2020 box with no refresh slim design either.
Because it should have 2tb ssd.
@@craigsampson3386Xbox is also overcharging for the 2tb Xbox.
@@83jdc1 well duhh? The point is it is an upgrade that exists that doesn't magically come free, it adds to the build cost therefore the sale cost.
Which is a very smart strategy. The reason Sony leaves out the disk drive is because they really want a digital only future where they can dictate the price.
They don't like that Amazon and other retailers tend to heavily discount games after a very short time which eats into their profit margin. Spider-Man 2 and
God of War: Ragnarok are around 45 on Amazon. They are still 70 on the Playstation Store.
And Digital is all profit - there is no pressing the disc, logistics and shipping cost.
After consideration over the last few weeks since the PS5 Pro announcement, I preordered mine yesterday. As a regular console player (I'm definitely no hard-core gamer, but play most days), I want the best PlayStation experience in my living room, and a £700 investment on a new console (which of course will go up once I buy new covers, controllers etc) over the next 3 - 4 years doesn't seem a huge amount to me. Once I swap out the disk drive from my PS5 Slim into the Pro, I will then also have a nice compact(ish) console that I can use in my home office as a second PS5.
Whilst I understand the arguments around price (and yes, it is considerably more than any previous mainstream console and is certainly unaffordable for a lot of people), and I appreciate that I could build a PC to match the performance of the Pro. However the simple fact is I don't want to build or play on a PC! I love the convenience of playing in my living room, on a console that hides away under my TV unit, that I can grab a controller, switch it on and start playing in a few seconds. I like the Playstation setup, so why would I want to change? I'm sure there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of other people like me, that have no interest in PC gaming, but just want the best experience on their home console - and that is who I feel the PS5 Pro is aimed at. You can still have a great experience with the base PS5, but I just want that little bit more, and I am happy to pay for it!
All these clowns crying about the Pro….this console is NOT MEANT FOR YOU! Personally I’m ordering day 1 and gaming is my cheapest hobby, this is a no brainer for me. No one is forcing you to buy this, stick with the base console.
Yeah brokies
People just mad that it doesn't come with a disc drive and stand. I'm sure if those things were included people wouldn't be so mad about the ps5 pro. It's definitely a want and not a need. I'll hold onto my base ps5 and put my money elsewhere, for now. Switch two and crossing fingers for an actual Sony handheld.
@@streetlive05 People are mad because the Pro is basically a robbery at this point: there is hardly if any difference and it costs twice as much as the base ps5... That's the reason people are upset and they have the right to be...
That they most likely play on a t.v that never took advantage of the system in the first play. May as well stayed with the base PS4.
Why is everyone trying to say that the PS5 and Pro is exactly them same…it isn’t. Each consumer needs to figure out if upgrading or buying this instead of a PS5 is worth it? Only you can answer that. DF noted improvements in most of the games they looked. Especially FF7 Rebirth as is confirmed here. Don’t hate if you can’t afford this mid gen refresh. Gotta hope that most upcoming third party titles will offer a Pro option for fidelity settings. I’m sure GTA6 will drive some consumers to buy the pro.
GTA6 will be the same game on the regular PS5 😂
The ps5 pro is the real ps5 and the ps5 is the ps4 pro. People complaining about the ps5 pro knowing that they don't have too buy it. Cause they still have the regular ps5.
@@demon-mi2ho most idiotic comment I have seen in a while
But the official playstation podcast from IGN was pretty negative. And I'm saying that lightly. Now there's probably going to be very positive going forward. Can't take these guys serious...
Maybe because they had a chance to play it...
@@hat8918exactly how don't people realise this
@@bigbossgames8818 different people = different brains = different opinions
Maybe just maybe, Twitter isn't real life...
Sony ad?
Only 1/4 person was impressed, wth are you talking about?
The 1/4 person happens to be the one assigned to pick the title.
@@RosarioPereiraFernandesHe was the only one that tried it tbh
All these broke people in comments 😂 Nobody is forcing you to buy ps5 pro, you won't die if you dont by it, misarable
They broke as hell bro
look who talking😂 a corporate slave boot😂
While a mid range gpu on pc now cost $600 😂😂 a high end gpu like the 4090 cost $1500 alone. But we dont comolain we up the profit 😂
@@smokegames1179and still play same games,just better res and framerate,sama as ps5 vs ps5pro
The peasantry is real… lmaooo
Another benefit of the ps5 pro is that it will give u excellent gaming until this generation finishes like for another 4 years or so. We still have a ways to go and I'm sure if anyone who bought a ps5 pro would have benefited no matter the price tag. 700 for excellent quality now and for another 4 years if not better quality games by then isn't that bad at all
Why are there people here talking about hardware that clearly have no idea about hawldware. It what adds to this situation of false information constantly being spread.
We were playing in 8K or an upscale version of 8K.
Native and upscaled from internal resolution are very different. Especially AMD upscale FSR which is very poor, I’m yet to see if their AI will be anything like DLSS
Yes, it focused on fidelity as they have only changed the GPU not CPU. So there is not processing power change here!
These comments are wild 💀. They’re just reporting on the hands on . How is this an ad?
maybe because they dont mention no mechanics version, how overpriced it is or how little upgrade it is compared to ps5 that you have to zoom in to details in the background that nobody notices
Cause they’re bots
@@JCech40 they literally mentioned all that... Instead of commenting nonsense , actually watch the video
@@JCech40 Yo you're not very perceptive are you 😂
@@JCech40Then go watch Digital foundary's hands-on impression. Oliver was way more impressed than he anticipated.
Having a good gaming PC, watching the drama around consoles is pretty popcorn worthy.
Said no one ever
No GTA 6 for you fam 😂
Cry about it
Have you tried it to affirm that?
Looking forward to getting mine in the next few months!
the footage is really low res/bitrate. You would think someone from IGN, such a big company, would do better??
Great convo guys! Thought you all gave a great pro and con debate. I'm probably gonna be upgrading to the ps5 pro. Still playing my ps3. Really feeling like its worth it having skipped the ps4. Lol.
the woman wasn't following the script
@@girlsnotblue3804 😂
They never do....
Good that she wasn’t 😂
Lol😂
What woman? I just see 4 dudes.
Whether to upgrade to a PS5 Pro depends on a few factors:
Performance Needs: If you want enhanced graphics, faster load times, and better performance in games, the Pro version may be worth it.
Game Library: Consider if upcoming games take advantage of the PS5 Pro's capabilities. If you’re excited about titles that will utilize its features, an upgrade could be beneficial.
Current System Satisfaction: If you're happy with your current PS5's performance and game selection, you might choose to wait.
Budget: Assess if the upgrade fits your budget and if the benefits align with your gaming habits.
Ultimately, if enhanced performance and future-proofing are priorities for you, upgrading might be a good choice. Otherwise, sticking with your current console could be just fine for now.
You don’t need a magnifying glass to feel the difference between 30 and 60 fps.
So let me get this straight...
One comment was
Dragons dogma 2 was terrible and stuttery on the standard PS5, but on the pro it run at a locked 60fps..
They then go on to say we don't know what the difference was
After they say GT7 at 8k was spectacular...
But then ask why the Pro is 700...
The bias is comical
The console isnt expensive, it's just MORE expensive than the last iteration.
You can't ask "why is it this price" then simultaneously say it's running games twice as good and you're very impressed😂😂
Silly comments.
came here for the ps5 pro and ended up with the Xbox chat 🤷
na,,, fed up gamers chat is more like it. Focus on PS, dont have to bring up Xbox everytime. What about Nintendo, the real boss?
@@jrmatix they aint boss the wiiu flop while ps4 and ps5 selling good
@@jrmatix nintendo cant even run fps games
Cry much? This show is about all the systems.
What the hell is she talking about? Handheld PC’s are double the price of the pro. The steam deck although a cheaper rendition of a PC handheld is completely inferior to the pro and all other mobile PC’s not to mention the best version of the steam deck is $600 without a stand.🙄
699 without a disk drive is robbery.
PC players love digital tho.
Keep on keeping on.
@@xdjrunner didn't know the ps5 was a PC lol tf kind of brain dead comparison is that
Real hot take there
@@michaelmartin2763he’s been on defence all video.
@@homer1273 $1031 in Sweden.
The female reporter was more honest about her experience.
This was a great discussion, but it seems like many people didn’t watch the entire video and are just complaining. IGN did a solid job explaining the details. At no point did they say you have to buy the PS5 Pro. They even emphasized that if you already own a base PS5, there’s no real need to upgrade. The Pro model is more for newcomers to the PS5 who are willing to spend $699. Like everyone else, they weren’t thrilled with the $699 price tag and still seem somewhat unconvinced, but they do understand the value of the extra $200.
Thank you sir, someone with common sense 🙌
The TH-cam authorities should do something about the comment trolls and spam bots. I also do hope scalping ends up illegal.
Rebirth looks awful on PS5 for me the real reason to get a pro is the huge visual improvements for ff7 Rebirth. However, I’ve already finished it and will probably not being doing a second playthrough due to feeling disappointed by the game in general and the awful visuals put me off of wanting to play it again.
Not once has anyone mentioned that yes, you can buy a PC for the price of a pro, but some people aren't "setting screen players", some people just want to turn on a console and play, and the pro allows you to do that.
Oof. IGN promoting a $700 console that does the same thing as the $400 one.
But way better?
Straight up lying.
Play remastered ps4 games? 😂
And 2tb of fast ssd instead of 1tb
You sound like a idiot. A 400 pc does the samething as a 4000 dollar pc. Plays the exact same games. Just simply higher frames & better resolutions. Same as ps5 pro. The 4000 pc doesn't change the fact you're playing the exact same game just like the ps5 pro wont change the game outside of resolution & frames.
new rumours suggest that the PS6 will be backwards compatible with the PS5 and PS4 as well. for those with a large library of games across the generations, it makes sense to get the console. as building a PC means repurchasing the games you probably already have on your console be it physical or digital.
Definitely not worth $700 in this economy
That's cheap compared to here in Sweden, $1031.
The best solution wasn't even mentioned in the news piece and it's what I am waiting for, is an Asus ROG Ally X but running native Steam OS but with an eGPU do "dock" it. So it's got loads of power when docked, is portable, access to PlayStation and Xbox games on one machine and will run smooth like a console without all the PC quirks thanks to Steam OS. Yes will it be more expensive than a PS5 Pro but it does so much more.
Meanwhile in a parallel world; a game with cartoon graphics of a princess releases with an innovative take on gameplay to sell a few million. This makes the fans happy and has a sustainable / large profit margin for business.
PS5 PRO is the way to go. 60fps with good graphics is just amazing.
PC is great, but come January there’s a lot of PlayStation first party exclusives coming that won’t hit PC for years and they will be taking advantage of of the Ps5 Pro, so it’s down to whether you want to miss all of that.
@@Imhotep397 but I've already played all the old games . Maybe be better for gta 6
Daemon: “We need to keep things fair and balanced”
Xbox Super-fan Destin: 😏
Honestly 60fps should be the new default minimum expectation.
At least always an option. 8k is a silly thing I'll have no interest in for the next 10 years or never.
Did the Pro run on a A95L while the base ps5 run on a Wega for the testing?
😂
Remember a PC needs close to double the power of a console to run at the same level, because of Windows bloatware running at the background.
If the difference is worth the comparison side by side it's unnecessary. It's like the game of find the 5 differences.
I'm not playing games on a computer. Im sticking to Playstation.
Ever wonder if people whine too much? Read igns comment section
Great video, enjoying the discourse on the PS5 PRO, Destin is the goat
Not 700 impressive I'm sure. If this was my first console in years sure.
But having a ps5, switch, pc, and series x. Its hard to justify such a dumb price.
You have a xbox and a PC... That's idiotic... You're definitely a liar lol
In a way it would be nice if they made the consoles with upgrade-able GPU's instead of having Pro consoles. The enhanced GPU could have an AI accelerator for PSSR much like Nvidia does with DLSS and frame-gen.
@lbpk5786 but then you're still left with the same CPU and RAM which are over clocked in the Pro, not to mention the larger box it's wrapped in for cooling.
1: IGN hold out their hands.
2: Sony puts money in their hands.
3: IGN smiles and tells Sony they love the money.
4: Sony says: we know.
We all knew the PS5 Pro was going to impress. This is why I just get tired of being on the internet where everyone shuts off their brain and quickly jumps on the hatewagon before ever trying out a product themselves.
And then you have these disingenuous content creators who keep putting out clickbait of anything sensational just to make a quick buck. It’s getting old and annoying especially when all these videos are coming out now with people backpedaling on the Pro, like we all already didn’t know how well the console was going to perform 🧐
guaranteed the vast majority of those haterade guzzlers weren't planning to buy one anyway, so they want to throw negativity at those who are considering it
They are called rage grifters
PS5 Pro is a day one!
Supply line excuses and components not getting any cheaper, but lets go ahead and make a console that costs 100% more than it should and offers nothing drastically new. No one will notice. Such a brilliant business decision 🙄
Nothing new and no one will notice…. Apple iPhone says hello, how’s that going for Apple ?
We already can notice, take your ps5 and try 30 fps fidelity mode. If you are satisfied with it and don't mind the choppy fps, that's all good and well. If you like 60 fps mode and don't mind the visual downgrade, then the ps5 is the best console for you. However, if like the fidelity mode is best but bothered by 30 fps caps, then Sony has more expensive options for you.
@@stevebrown7877Apple user problems. Is your PS5 gonna stop working and force you to upgrade to the Pro?
@@faisalmohamed328 This is exactly it. To the average consumer (such as myself) there is little reason to buy a PS5 pro as it would offer very poor value for money even if you didn't already have the base version. (Especially if you have a substantial library of physical games)
But the super-fan power-users who really care about top-notch frame rates will be the ones who buy this, and they are the sliver of the market that this device has been created for.
Hope I can preorder one tomorrow :) Can't wait!!
The cpu is a huge issue because they didn’t change it so warhammer won’t hit 60fps and games happening rt won’t hit high fps because it hammers the cpu even harder. This is a same fps but higher resolution upgrade for aaa games unless the game is not using the cpu much.
You have zero clue what you’re talking about several of these games are 4k60 with ray tracing and they have some at 4k 120 with ultra settings but ray tracing off 😅 keep on with the coping
@@TheKing8608_ironic since you have zero clue on how vital a cpu is 😂. Clown type comment. Also, they’re not native 4k, they’re upscaled. You’re playing games at 1440p at most
then how is dragons dogma (a cpu limited game) now running at 60fps. riddle me that.
@@sithhunter965 down sampling the native fidelity to get higher frames and upscaling it to 4k. Congrats, you're playing a game at 1080 p
@@merathe9391 ok but the picture quality is right next to native 4k, so it’s not a problem when a 4090 using DLSS does it but the pro uses the same tech it’s a problem 🤣
Everybody is asking for a R2R PS5 update but all we need is GTA VI.
The price of $700 is pretty impressive.
Impressively disappointing 😞
Kat made a really good point what happens when new games come out and they drop frame rate significantly on the original PS5. I feel like I’ve been scammed by sony. PS5 Pro is what we were promised but I bought a PS5 original at launch a system that still had to pander to the PS4 games and people that couldn’t afford it.
Kat is a real one. Everyone else is mad shilling.
One thing many people forget when say can get pc for similar price. If one buy ps5 pro who already have ps4/ps5 console. They keep their library. If they move to pc, they need to restart their library. Ie even if pro cost more, might be cheaper option for many still.
No disc drive no buy
Sony have made an optional modular disc drive attachment for the little people left like yourself who still use or want one, so just go buy that. If you _don't_ buy you're literally signalling to Sony even less people use discs now and they probably won't even make _any_ sort of disc drive for the PS6.
If you have a tantrum and say you're done with console gaming then PC hasn't had disc based games for a long time now and their systems are always more expensive than any new console.
@@craigsampson3386 we shouldn’t have to buy a add on
@@DarksideofDarby why should Sony have to pander to the small percentage like yourself? That's just being selfish.
@@DarksideofDarby "Sony has revealed 79 per cent of all PS5, PS4 games sold during its latest fiscal quarter were for the digital version. This represents a dramatic increase for the start of fiscal year 2022; a 13 per cent boost over fiscal year 2021 to be exact, when two-thirds of games were purchased digitally." article from 29th July 2022.
So yeah with the overwhelming vast majority of games purchases being digital now, even more by 2024 now, including a disc drive as standard on the PS5 Pro, or _any_ Playstation console from now on is just dumb to expect lmao why balloon the cost of your console with unnecessary expensive hardware? Xbox is guilty of this, atleast Playstation offer a unique modular disc drive attachment to add on separately which accommodates the remaining small percentage of users without upsetting the masses who prefer digital now. Maybe if Xbox could've put in the effort for a refreshed slim console like Sony they might’ve made an optional modular disc drive attachment aswell... but they didn't because Xbox is selling like trash and it isn't worth putting in the money to that platform.
Games. New Games. I play all those games with my PS5 and the experience was awesome. Show the PRO with some new great games. Make people actually want to buy a PRO by offering totally new experiences. If all the games shown were never released before, and first seen during the PRO trailer, Sony would much more positive feedback here despite the high price (which would still be viewed as too high). Oh well….the narrative is what it is. An improved console, with lackluster games at the moment, living a lot off past performances. Hoping the ship can be course corrected. (Looking at you Ghosts 2!). Until then…….Best!
Justice for Wukong!
You guys really need to get a hobby!
Just wait for 2-3 years they will release remaster version and charge us 20 dollars to upgrade it
The hardware is only good if the developers actually invest itself in it. We’ve seen what PSV is capable of with a good development team. MGSV released on PS3 and ran smoother than most games released to date on modern consoles. Games run 60fps but the cutscenes don’t.🤦🏻♂️
not $700 better when you already have a regular ps5
700 minus the trade in value of the original. Unless you want to keep it.
@@krissmith9814 who are you trading it in to? gamestop? 😂 how much do you think they will give you
@@krissmith9814 780 minus the trade in value of the original.*FTFY you forgot to factor in the disc drive.
@@Boosted_5.0 according to my local GameStop around $200 dollars cash or more for credit
@@Boosted_5.0 about half
No IGN, no it’s not.
IGN is cooked
You have been saying that since 2020, they still running. Come up with something better
@@animegtrailer5208 🤣🤣🤣
the PlayStation will be the best place to play vr with the best vr games to come in the upcoming years 2d gaming may never really see the full power of the ps5 pro
Impressive or not.
Not worth the price.
For you.
You do realize a mid range gpu on pc cost $600 alone right 😂😂 not even high end
This!
Console players are getting their first taste of PC pricing and they don't like it. Hate to tell you, but consoles are about to become much more expensive moving forward. PS6 and the next Xbox will be around the same price. Once you get into high-end parts the price to performance ratio skyrockets.
Marketing damage control 🎉
The PS5 PRO hate is HILARIOUS 😂
PC GAMERS TELLING CONSOLE GAMERS NOT TO UPGRADE GPU 🙃
Ohh yay the cars are shinier and some games run like they were advertised! Much improvement, now give us your money 😂😂.
Who the hell isn't already satisfied with the way Horizon, Spider-Man and Demon's Souls looks and runs on the PS5?
Destiny destiny destiny still trying to get people into PC and still failing miserably
Still can't figure out what kind of PC build with the similar specs you can get for under 1k he's talking about regardless of ray tracing
Just to be clear, this video isn't scripted at all. The people in the video have their own opinions, thus not really lying for sure. The title might be misleading, sure. But roasting in the comments and not watching the whole video won't fix the problem. Besides, I hate spam bots and comment trolls! Especially the stupid UTTP (UTubeTrollPolice) jerks who bother fans of SMG4 and other great content creators by spamming "Rage-Baiting" messages in the replies. I hope scalping and rage-baiting becomes illegal.
1. What they are selling now is the gat was promised for ps5 base
2. Price wise it is not sensible. There is no significant difference in he for a 50% increase
3. It is disgusting how ign presents it in such biased way.
We remember how you lied about cyberpunk. You lied about ps5. Now another set of lies.
Basically they sold originally what would be more affordable based off GPU costs.
Nintendo waiting in the wings to drop the switch 2 at $399 and once again dominate the console market.
PS5Pro is a day one
Whats impressive about it? Spending a bunch of cash to fix poorly optimised games that really should have looked better on base PS5 and insignificant imporovements to some firat party games that in some respects have even seen downgrades such as geometry in Ratchet and drops to native res in a handful of others
$700 better have a stand and a disc drive, new controller version 2.. at least😂
In my opinion. If you got the ps5 at launch. Not the slim. Have a huge PS library. Pro is worth it if you can AFFORD it. If you can’t keep playing the regular PS5
Of course you would say that... we ain't buying it... at least not me...
poor and in denial lmao