😂😂😂 cute but they spent $100 billion to control the industry ain’t no more giveaways or discounts it’s been two years they ain’t made back 5% plus 65% of the install base they managed to muster are on the 🥔sad state of affairs they want to compete kill the 🥔but then what would the excuse be if XSX performs the exact same with no benefits? Tsk tsk tsk
the Series consoles have always been cheaper, even with sales like Black Friday and PS5 never dropping- it still got outsold so dropping the price of Xbox is not going to make a difference
Yup- they need to do something drastic to gain back some ground. Hell- FREE online play. Screw it. Make the Series X $299. If you can’t get the consoles in homes, what’s the point?
@@LightningNavigator it's not that I want this gen to end it's that xbox's plans for next gen will dramatically change things for the better and I am all for it
Don't hold your breath on that one. They've done just about everything they can that doesn't have a legal problem or severe lack of popularity in its original release. That effort is done.
@@epobirs that's not true, Sarah Bond has set up a new team dedicated to game preservation and that backwards compatibility is still a priority for the company going forward.
I'd love for the Two Towers and Return of the King games to be backwards compatible but I think it's exceedingly unlikely at this point. It's not just about getting the license for those games, they also contain extensive clips from the films that would be a nightmare to get permission for.
@@deiradinnAll their games? Where's the bloodborne pc port? Or the older ratchet and clank games and god of war games? Or gravity rush? Or demon's souls?
@@AdmiralCalemulation. Bloodborne in particular has made amazing strides in the past month, it’s now able to run at a consistent 44fps at the minimum. This is already way better than what the ps4 (and ps5) provide for it.
Every game you just mentioned is emulatable at higher resolutions and framerates than the originals save perhaps Bloodborne but that went from barely bootable to playable in a couple months...6 months and that's solved too And for the older games like GoW and Ratchet and Clank, you can do that on your phone, better than OG quality. Not an issue at all
And how many has Playstation closed? Playstation is failing my guy. Playstation is that dude making payments on a BMW to look rich yeah you got a BMW but boy is it killing your pockets.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan indies are better than most AAA games these days, devs need to work more with creativity and inovation and focus less on just graphics and doing interactive movies.
@@gab4198 this is spot on. Indie games are more likely to take risks and create innovative gameplay. It’s sad that Microsoft shut down Tango when their lower budget releases were arguably the best part of the Xbox platform as of late.
i think what's most frustrating about this generation of playstation is that we basically ended up with a ps5 to play the best version of last generation games, so the baseline ps5 is really a ps4 pro mark ii -- makes me think the ps6 will be the ps5 pro mark ii given how few games are actually coming out, it will be even less significant than the ps5 launch. i guess that's what console generations are becoming. you get 2-3 exclusive games in 4 years, then in the latter half of the systems lifetime games actually start to come out, but don't run great until the next gen console? like wtf.
You're right. I waited to play several current gen games for the pro update. The entire industry is destroying itself now. It's all woke now anyways so playing the best version is even less enticing. Gonna play spider man 2 just for the graphics. Otherwise wait for deep sale or for the games to come to a subscription service. All media is evil propaganda now.
Well the GPU and CPU will both get a substantial boost in power 4 years from now. Waiting 7 years to introduce a new CPU based on Ryzens latest innovations; is going to bump up the frame capability of a PS6 to the point where 240 hz games will run smooth but also have high quality imaging at 2k or 4K with an even more advanced form of pssr. The real question is, how much will it cost? Sony is moving toward a more module approach which is a great idea. Have a base model with good internal specs and let the customer decide if they want the disk drive and added storage. Like a middle ground between console and PC.
I dont think they have to do anything. In Norway, the PS5 Slim costs less than half of what the PS5 Pro costs currently. PS5 Slim is 4790,- NOK and PS5 Pro is 10190,- NOK. Nobody is going to spend over double the amount of money on a PS5 Pro than the regular PS5 Slim Digital (both come without a disc drive and stand). It's ridiculous.
@@rabbyd542 Why are you talking about PC’s? I’m talking about consoles here. The thing you throw into your living room, and attach to your big screen, and chill on the couch to play. Remember? A console! If you want to talk about PC, go somewhere where they are talking about PC’s. We are talking about consoles here you doink!
Some people are still stuck in the past on how they think about Xbox. I am surprised that DF elevates those kind of topics. The main difference with Xbox now is, that they are one of the biggest publsihers now. That money they put out to acquire ABK & Bethesda has to be earned back, so they release on competitors platforms case by case. The idea that is a difficult PR scenario is beyond me, it only would make sense if you think like a platform warrior. The Xbox left the space to always have the best technical performance on a console with the Series S anyway. What they chase is engagement with the ecosystem regardless where you play. In the long run this benefits the company more than on the restricted console market. I see the PS5 Pro vs Xbox Series X discussion as a clever way to distract from the fact that Sony's game output of 1st party games is shockingly sparse.
After $ony “paid” them a visit and they released that video showcasing the ps5 pro, then it’s “what about Xbox?”. Mind you last week they were ishing in the pro.
Microsoft *needs* to keep releasing games on competing platforms just to stop their ABK investment from losing value. What they wanted was for it to grow Game Pass to over 100m users by 2030, which is never going to happen. Buying ABK was not a strategic master stroke that changed the market in their favour, it was a massive F-up that has tied their hands.
The practical difference between a console and the PC is the UI. Windows can fix that by having an account to where you only need your controller to login and resume your game.
XBox’s problem is simple. Playstation “won” (hate calling it that) this generation because it focussed on single player experiences. People WANT that. Yes people love playing Online games. Games that offer them a service. But usually gamers only have 1 or 2 games they’ll play online for the entire duration of that console’s lifespan. They won’t magically shift to the next best thing after investing hours and money in another service. People that buy a console want the “ease” of buying a box, buying a physical game. Put the game in the console and just play. None of that other stuff. To gamers, Xbox feels more like a gaming PC. And at that point they might as well just buy that. Why do you think Nintendo Switch is as big as it is? Because of Mario and Zelda alone? No. Because it is User friendly. None of that “buy a game disc, disc only contains 20% of the game, have to download the rest” kind of stuff. It has clean looking UI without pulling 30 ads in your face as soon as you boot up the system. Just good old “put in a game you bought and play”. That simplicity brings the back joy in gaming. Closest to the Switch we got now is the Playstation. But they are walking a tight rope with the departure of the former CEO, Sony seems to be shifting away from that type of experience: PS5 pro without a disc drive, PSportal that didn’t play games natively, the focus on live service games and an announcement that they want to improve “player retention”. Astrobot is the best to happen to them for over a decade. I just hope they themselves see it that way. Truth is, they all want to chase fortnite’s slice of the pie but don’t realise the player pool that is interested in these types of games is finite. And have most likely already commited to a couple of these services. Remember what made Xbox such a huge thing? I’ll tell you: Games that were popular on the PC and NOT available on Playstation or Nintendo were available on Xbox. Like Elder Scrolls, Doom3, Farcry, etc. Playing Halo2 splitscreen with your friends. That’s gone because ‘online’. Playing Gears of War for it’s offline mode. Nope, you gotta Sign in. Oh and the best mode you can’t play without a connection and the list goes on and on. it really boils down to 1 thing and 1 thing only. Accessibility. A consumer friendly experience. People are tired of games turning into casino’s, app games, live services, advertising campaigns, political agenda’s, etc etc. Gaming is our escape from reality. But they are pushing us right back in it. We don’t want that. We just want to play a game.
The uninstall button. The game is great and all that, but god it is hard to fully remove all the junk it leaves behind on your system. You really need to check out that mod when the time comes to get rid of it. Otherwise, I think Sonys PS5 PRO Overhaul is a nice start.
@@balaam_7087 um no the uninstall button...The game is great, Ubisoft goes Steamworks bye bye, always on DRM. But you oft go work, always on work DR. Check out the junk it leaves behind in you.
no the uninstall button...The game is great, Ubisoft goes Steamworks bye bye, always on DRM. But you oft go work, always on work DR. Check out the junk it leaves behind in you.@@balaam_7087
Phil Spencer will end up saying just buy a pc at that point. He would be right tho, u have the way to customize ur own system and make it balanced unlike the ps5 pro where the system is a 4K only system.
They won't do anything. I seriously do not believe Microsoft has a plan for their home consoles. They'd much rather turn Xbox into a service than a device, and this does them a disservice. I think he's a nice guy, but in my opinion it's time for Phil Spencer to step down.
Xbox console brand is done either way. Phil Spencer yaps a lot but ultimately delivered nothing for Xbox brand or the gamers. Don't even think game pass was his brain child but Microsoft's and Satya Nadella. Time for Phil to leave.
The uninstall button. The game is great and all that, but god it is hard to fully remove all the junk it leaves behind on your system. You really need to check out that mod when the time comes to get rid of it. Otherwise, I think Sonys PS5 PRO Overhaul is a nice start.
Phil is a weasel, but it's ultimately not him making these calls. The current sad state of Xbox is down to directives from above aimed at keeping shareholders happy. I'm sure Phil would have been happy to keep throwing money into a bottomless pit trying to make people care about Xbox hardware again. The reality is that Xbox has never managed to recover from the Xbone disaster, and likely never will. The 360 glory days are so far in the past now that a lot of younger gamers won't even remember them. The brand is a laughing stock.
I think Sony did not even mention the TFlop number for the PS5 Pro in their marketing material (it would be kind of pointless given the type of upgrades they made).
Because tflops are not an accurate way of measuring anything , Xbox just focused on it because it was the one number they had higher and fanboys ran with it like the good little sheep for Xbox they are
@@mindrover777 says the guy going off tflops to measure power when that doesn't give an accurate measurement tflops are a calculation based on size and speed of GPU when certain aspects of games work better with a bigger GPU and some aspects work better with a faster GPU in basic terms but your lumping these aspects together under the tflops number which is why Xbox pushed that narrative they couldn't say they had a faster GPU only larger but saying you have higher tflop count makes it sound like everything is better when that isn't true now is it , stop being ignorant yourself and listening to dodgy marketing It's not hard to Google tflop accuracy and see it's not a good way to measure real world performance
The smart response after MSoft's great showing at their showcase in June would be to drop the Series X price and bundle a decent Gamepass sub with it (6 months)
I hope Microsoft brings out another good machine that isn't too expensive and has good games before the PS6 comes out. Like the 360 did back then. Sony is starting to get on my nerves with their hubris. I was very happy with the PS4 and the PS5 for the first two years. Now Sony is in arrogance and ignorance mode.
@@bobjoe5937 At least it'll still have a disk drive and limited edition always have outrageous prices but that's fine because the normal Series X is still $450. It'd be an issue if they put all Series X now for $599.
Xbox already responded with their new lineup of consoles: Xbox Series S with more storage at $350, All Digital Xbox Series X at $450, and the Special Edition Galactic Black Xbox Series X at $600.
Have you played Space Marine 2, Jedi Survivor, The First Descendant on performance mode? If you did you wouldn't say that. You may not care about them, but those are the games I play and I would like to play and they go below 1080p in performance mode and still drops to 46 fps which is fine for me since I have a tv with VRR, but the graphics are really just xbox one level and that's unacceptable.
@@robertcarr4172 why would I do that? Spend more money just to put it on upscaling from 600p to 1440p? 2080S and Ryzen 5 3600 can't even get 60 fps at 1080 with performance DLSS so pls at least look into what you are talking about. I'd have to spent at the very least double what I spent on my series x to get an acceptable experience.
Space Marine 2 is never below 1080p on the series x in performance mode, but the series s used a resolution between 720p-1080p. For space marine 2 the best console at the moment is the series x, since it outperforms the ps5 by up to 10-15 fps (digital foundry made a test and this was the result).
They'd do well to do nothing. The Series S already harms Xbox development. Another SKU would not be helpful. Even undercutting Sony on price, they're still too far behind to sell like hotcakes. They should just focus on next gen.
@michaellong2439 Wasn't feature parity and split screen the thing that delayed Baldur's Gate 3 on Xbox? You can cut back graphical settings for the GPU, but the CPU still needs to juggle AI, Physics, inputs, sound and moving stuff to the GPU. The weakest console does still hinder developers.
lazy devs.. the Series S is a great piece of hardware if games can be scaled down to whatever hardware there is on PC there should be no excuse for the Series S.
@michaellong2439 none of the variables you mentioned change the fact that the Series S is a problem. All you did was point out other problematic hardware.
Xbox needs to step up the quality control on their games first. Owning random studios and making first party don’t automatically make good and good looking games.
Oh fck off! They had more games nominated at TGA last year and won more awards than PlayStation. PS users are losing their minds about the possibility of accessing Xbox titles like Forza Horizon, Flight Sim, Gears, Fable etc. Quality content is not issue for Xbox anymore, they won that.
True. Sony mostly makes movie games but atleast they come out polished. All of Xbox 1st party have been disappointment this entire generation. (Halo infinite, Starfield, Senua etc) Xbox has gone with quantity over quality to build Game pass numbers.
Honestly, Make a PC. Seriously. Make a Windows Gaming PC. Imagine a Windows Gaming PC without the desktop. It has the typical Xbox UI, support for multiple store platforms, but essentially locked down to just that UI/UX for maximum performance. They can standardize around typical hardware that they choose. Games could target that. Then roll that UI to other Windows PCs if they want to use it.
We already had that with Metro. Amd everyone absolutely hated it and they removed it. Theres already dozens of front ends for PCs. We dont need Xbox to come along and draw one up.
First-time console buyers will go with the PS5, because Sony will market the PS5 with GTA6. Plus, I get the feeling that GTA6 will release on PS5 first because the Series S version of the game won't be ready on time, and that will delay the Series X release as well.
They will never go for PS5 pro it's very expensive People will go for cheapest option so everyone can enjoy GTA 6 and that option Is Xbox series S which me and my friends are buying also
If Microsoft ever made an Xbox-branded gaming PC, it would send shockwaves through the gaming world. It could feel like the final chapter in the iconic Xbox vs. PlayStation rivalry, signaling Microsoft’s decision to step back from the traditional console wars. A move like that could be seen as waving the white flag, admitting that they’re no longer focused on battling Sony head-on in the console arena. But is it really surrender-or could it be the ultimate power move? Microsoft could be shifting their focus toward a future where gaming is platform-agnostic, where hardware matters less than access and performance. Imagine an Xbox ecosystem that thrives not on just one device, but on every device, seamlessly blending the best of PC and console gaming. It could transform the way we think about gaming platforms, but yes, it could also bring an end to one of the most epic rivalries in gaming history. Would that be the end of the PlayStation vs. Xbox debate? Maybe-but the dawn of a whole new battlefield could be waiting.
"XBOX-branded PC" ...isn't that just a normal PC? I can already play all Xbox games day one on PC. I don't see the point of XBOX having to spending money on R&D, manufacturing, marketing, and distribution of a new XBOX PC. And XBOX has already shown signs of exiting the hardware market; it doesn't make sense that they would double down on hardware at this point.
@@duerf5826 Yes, it would just be a PC. Although, I think the Xbox brand is so damaged that Microsoft would be better off starting fresh with a new name. With the Xbox 25th anniversary coming up in 2026, and with the rumor that the next gen hardware is launching in 2026, Microsoft has an opportunity to market the end of the Xbox era into the start of the new era of Microsoft gaming. Heck, they could even release an Xbox Mini as a way to say goodbye to Xbox. It'd really play on the nostalgia factor.
They're releasing their games day one on Steam for those who want the best experience on the best hardware. Far more valuable to me as a consumer than another piece of locked down hardware. An infinitely more appealing proposition to me than a "Pro" console that still falls behind the curve.
@erikouwehand xsx enhanced bc mod and auto hdr, the only reason I want to buy a xsx. It is up to Microsoft's effort what kind enhancement each game has if at all, but they no longer care about patching up games anymore.
@@sergiosanchez3344 I got PC for that, speaking of emulator, the Xbox 360 emulator situation isn't good either, half of the gears games still got issues, ng2 visual artifacts, and don't get me started on fable2.
What's the point releasing a console rather than good games honestly? The PS5 Pro is almost pointless. Xbox are not in such a bad position all of a sudden (imo). They would be better off releasing something more original when the time is right.
Playstation not having any competition is a bad thing. Sony will become greedy and anti-consumer. No direct competition could mean a lack of innovation as well.
@@SammySam7x unfortunately Xbox aren't competing tho we need someone else to step in and give it a try as everything Microsoft has done gas only made things worse for gamers
Up until the Pro, Playstation fan boys thought a teraflop was a horror movie that did bad at the cinema. All of a sudden now, they are chanting it like a mantra as if they know what they are on about.
Tflops has never been an accurate way to measure real world performance , but the Xbox fanboys shouted it as loud as they could as it was the only number they did have that was higher ,it's just karma don't shout about it if you don't understand it cause your only gonna look stupid when someone else comes along with a slightly higher meaningless number , these fanboy clowns are ridiculous on both sides
I thought it odd when Microsoft entered the console space. Perhaps Microsoft finally sees that too. Whats the point of a console without special features and exclusive titles?
What was odd about it? The original xbox and 360 were incredible consoles. During the latter part of the 360 and xbox one era was when the console turned to shit
Better hardware at the price? I consistently see series X at 450 bucks where I live and building a pc that can run games at that same performance is at least 150-200 dollars more. You would need a 6750 XT which is getting close to the whole price of the console.
Both sony and microsoft are quickly relegating themselves to third party publishers. They're attempting to have a console audience along with a pc audience. Going to be a rude awakening when they realise they've essentially encouraged consumers to just altogether ditch their platform and sony and microsoft will have to settle for competing for 70% revenue of their games on steam as just another third party publisher
When Sony's big AAA titles come day 1 to PC, and not a year or more later, then, and only then, can you make that comparison. There is a reason Sony and Nintendo aren't doing what Microsoft is doing, it's the same reason why Microsoft *has* to release their games on competitors platforms... 2 of the 3 have healthy thriving businesses doing what they have done for over a decade...
I guess microsoft is less effected by getting rid of consoles compared to sony, since they focus on stuff like studios and gamepass anyway since years.
What’s crazy is how much clock speed headroom Microsoft has on both of their consoles but chose to not tap into I think their hardware has proved far stable enough and they could boost easily 200 MHz and smoke base PS5 and nearly compete
They need an aspirational Xbox hardware that plays PC games but acts as set of technical specifications for their version of the “Xbox”. This aspirational PC-like Xbox must be simple like a console
Xbox Series X is my last console I’ll own from Microsoft. Over the years, they’ve made it clearer that they are not interested in console gaming but instead more focused on PC gaming and multi-platform even for PlayStation. I’ll focus more on PlayStation since they have demonstrated their vision in console gaming and investing in console upgrade while still maintaining their library games mostly on PlayStation and some games going to PC. I’ve already placed my PS5 Pro pre-order yesterday and looking forward to playing all new multi-platform 3rd party games on PS5 Pro. Even if Microsoft releases their beefier Series 2 console in the future, it makes more sense to get a PC Gaming Rig and play all their games on PC while staying with a Sony PS5 Pro or PS6 console because I do enjoy the console more so than PC gaming even though PC will always be more powerful than console but I’m glad to see PlayStation closing the technological gap at least for now with the PS5 Pro to PC graphical experience.
Next gen Xbox will be a hybrid pc. It is the only way they'll survive, and sony will have to adapt accordingly to survive. The only surviving console will be the Switch, for the near future at least.
@@BlackSkyZ2 For sony, yes. Microsoft? Nah, they have too much money to just die like that, the gaming portion(Xbox) makes a big chunk of money for MS. Sony on the other hand, if playstation continuos to fail, sony will die and be reduced to a film company only
If MS could make a box which is basically running Windows 11 with a good user interface which interacts with Steam, Epic stores and others then that would be really interesting. Would basically open up the idea of PC gaming to everyone.
You may not get "bespoke" updates for these Xbox games for the PS5 Pro. It will run the games better with the upscaler but I don't see them supporting ray-tracing and other features right away without a significant patch released later on, likely timed very near to the next Xbox hardware launch.
After yesterday (the Horizon Zero Dawn price hike debacle and them selling a PS5 Anniversary Edition for 1,100 euros that only scalpers profited from) I'm ever so happy with my Series X. Just got Epic Mickey Rebrushed today
I really don't understand your arguments. What Horizon ZD Remaster and price of PS5 Pro bundle have to do with Series X. Base PS5 still exist and it's a very good piece of hardware with excellent games.
Xbox will respond by being grateful that Satya Nadella hasn't pulled the plug entirely, they will become purely a third party publisher like Sega in the near future.
The best way for Xbox is to put all their subpar games on the Pro, and I mean with those Pro enhancements - just to make them somewhat more appealing for anyone, and worth buying.
Wtf is that guy talking about?! The Xbox One X Destroyed the PS4 Pro in power and performance! It was stronger than a series S in a few regards! Just crazy talk.
@@caliginousmoira8565 VR games don't sell well enough for Xbox to bother investing in it, especially when they still in a distant 3rd in the console market.
@@jonathan-us5jm Sony doesn't have good exclusives, either. What's your point? 90% of support for the Pro & One X came from 3rd party games anyways. The difference being the One X always was the better version.
They should release the PC Box: prebuilt PCs in sleek small factor cases, similar to the Xbox, running both Windows and a dedicated, console-like gaming mode of the OS. 3 models with different specs, the higher one being basically a Pro model, maybe the equivalent of a 4080 but priced lower than a prebuilt from other brands with that GPU. They already make peripherals, so a line of gaming keyboards and mice (mouses?) as optional accessories. Just an idea.
I think microsoft made a mistake making xbox games come to pc, ppl won’t buy an xbox console bc they can just go to pc. Sony has no competition at this point. Maybe until ps6 comes out, microsoft can make a very competitive product and offer, maybe make some cool games. Idk.
@@stevenm1832 no it's not. I use my 4090 laptop (like 4070ti performance) and it's easy. In fact, it's far easier to move it than console. I play on my controller huge screen very comfortably.
Respond?! HA, their console is barely selling and their focus is primarily on Game Pass. Unless they want to do something mindblowing that feels different from other consoles, making a Pro version of their own would be pointless.
Meanwhile microsoft's gaming division overtook sony as #2 (#1 is tencent) most valued gaming company worldwide by gaming revenue at the end of 2023 😅 Gamepass is expected to increase to $5.5 billions in 2025, while microsoft paid ~$1 billion for third party games who join the gamepass, so it's a very high profit-margin for them. Why should they change anything if it's working out fine?
There’s absolutely no reason to counter with a Series X Pro. Power wise, the generation is still held back by the Series S. Apart from graphics, what meaningful improvement has this generation or last really brought to the table? They’re just shinier Xbox 360s with weaker AAA lineups. If Microsoft wants back on top, they need to focus on games and service, not incrementally better hardware. Launching next-gen early would be a mistake too…. Unless they just throw the towel in on this gen, ride games as service for a couple years, while every first party studio pivots to support the next gen launch window.
Why are you not talking about DirectSR , AutoSR, and New Optimization Features of Direct X 12.2 Ultimate ? Upcoming features may be new Variable Rate Shading, Direct Storage or etc !
letting xbox run windows seems like the best move for them, they should just make a version of windows with a console os feel, another good thing from that would be handhelds being able to use that os, this seems like such a good move to do, i dont understand why they havent done it
How do they respond? DONT!!! I don’t see the need for a pro version, and I’m a PlayStation kind of guy. This is a waste of money when they haven’t even fully pushed the limits of the PS5. And all we have this generation is remasters of older titles. What’s the point ?
Oh shut up Karen. 😂😂😂😂 Haven't you noticed that all games on performance mode have low resolution that makes shimmering result. That's them already at the limit. Which is why pro was needed to increase resolution while maintaining the 60fps.. Resolution performance of base ps5 is capped at lower resolution for performance mode.
God of War Ragnarok was running at 120 frames. Returnal was running at 60 frames but barely able to make 1080P the idea that they are not pushing these consoles is a straight myth and EXACTLY why there is a PS5 PRO in the first place targeting 4K 60.
@@OTG1776 sorry about that, I thought you said pro isn't needed.. You are right, ps5 pro existed to let us run quality mode at 60fps.. Not even a single ps5 games right now runs quality mode at 60fps, because of hardware limit we are force to play lower resolution to play in 60fps.
This. Xbox needs to pick their battles, and this isn't one they can win right now. Especially with the Switch successor looming. That thing will suck up all the attention. Let Sony keep eating Ls with pricing, hardware supply droughts and game cancellations.
I was planning on getting an Xbox series x later this year, but this scenario really makes me insecure about it. It feels like Microsoft won't support the console from now on, that they'll focus entirely in their subscription service and nothing more. Feeling more and more about going for a Ps5, even though I already have some games in my Xbox account, because it seems a better choice on the long run.
Guys build a pc instead! Keep all of your Xbox library thru game pass while playing at the highest quality 😁 I just built my first pc ever and now recommending to anyone who is jumping the console-ship. I have never played games at such a stunning quality and I am 28 years old, trust me when I say that there’s no better gaming experience than on pc.
If XBox opens up their console to PC, would that impact the rumors we’re hearing about a handheld? At that point, and arguably right now I guess as well, any windows handheld can play XBox games and everything else. They would need to somehow stand apart in that space and be completely open and unrestricted, otherwise any windows or PC handheld on the market would already be better than it right out of the box in many aspects.
I remember the XSX's selling point was it being the most powerful console ever made. A bit of a weird situation now where the PS5 Pro is going to objectively be the best platform to play stuff like GTA6.
@@2387varunat least it is backwards compatible all the way to the original Xbox. Unlike the Playstation. And it can run unsigned code. Which allows it to run more playstation games than playstation and more Nintendo games than Nintendo. So what’s your point?
They’re releasing a gorgeous clear with gold trigger controller. Seriously that’s the best controller they’ve done since the starfield one, absolutely gorgeous. And yes, as usual it’s leagues ahead of the crappy 30th anniversary range which is only good because it’s extremely limited.
Seeing that more people are playing older games and the game companies seem to have lost touch with what their customers want. A pro or next Gen version of a console seems pointless.
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they will respond by releasing more controllers
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Like Playstation? Who increased the price of their controllers to over 70.
they should respond by dropping the price of the Series X while offering a sweet deal with Game Pass.
😂😂😂 cute but they spent $100 billion to control the industry ain’t no more giveaways or discounts it’s been two years they ain’t made back 5% plus 65% of the install base they managed to muster are on the 🥔sad state of affairs they want to compete kill the 🥔but then what would the excuse be if XSX performs the exact same with no benefits? Tsk tsk tsk
So that they can sell less software? 🤦🏾♂️
the Series consoles have always been cheaper, even with sales like Black Friday and PS5 never dropping- it still got outsold so dropping the price of Xbox is not going to make a difference
Yup- they need to do something drastic to gain back some ground.
Hell- FREE online play. Screw it. Make the Series X $299.
If you can’t get the consoles in homes, what’s the point?
Indiana Jones on Playstation 5 pro better Visuals
I believe Xbox is going a full next gen in two years instead.
it would destroy them
Yes on their 25th anniversary. November 15th 2026. Sony will release PS6 a year later. So for one year xbox will be the best place to play.
@@silent6snipes135 Destroy Sony or Microsoft?
@@silent6snipes135... how
@@LightningNavigator it's not that I want this gen to end it's that xbox's plans for next gen will dramatically change things for the better and I am all for it
More Xbox Original and 360 backwards compatibility please
Yeah Forza Motorsport 1-4 would be great
Don't hold your breath on that one. They've done just about everything they can that doesn't have a legal problem or severe lack of popularity in its original release. That effort is done.
@@epobirs that's not true, Sarah Bond has set up a new team dedicated to game preservation and that backwards compatibility is still a priority for the company going forward.
I'd love for the Two Towers and Return of the King games to be backwards compatible but I think it's exceedingly unlikely at this point. It's not just about getting the license for those games, they also contain extensive clips from the films that would be a nightmare to get permission for.
you guys poop on ps for having too many remasters but here you are begging to play old games. Gamers are pathetic.
They wont, they only sold 7m series x compared to the 21m series s sold. Making a pro version of the series x would be pointless
Facts they couldn't even sell the Series X at $200 last Christmas. Any Xbox pro console would be dead on arrival.
@@Deadeye012011. They would sell out around here for that kind of money,
Exactly, they have to do something totally different this time around. The console market isn’t growing and PlayStation has the lion-share.
So the Series X is selling even less than even the Wii U did.
@@Deadeye012011 where the flip was it 200? I would have bought a few dozen to resell for 350-400.
Microsoft will react by telling you to build a gaming PC 😂
Like Playstation, all their games are going to Steam. PS5 players are just beta testers.
@@deiradinnAll their games? Where's the bloodborne pc port? Or the older ratchet and clank games and god of war games? Or gravity rush? Or demon's souls?
@@AdmiralCalemulation. Bloodborne in particular has made amazing strides in the past month, it’s now able to run at a consistent 44fps at the minimum. This is already way better than what the ps4 (and ps5) provide for it.
Every game you just mentioned is emulatable at higher resolutions and framerates than the originals save perhaps Bloodborne but that went from barely bootable to playable in a couple months...6 months and that's solved too
And for the older games like GoW and Ratchet and Clank, you can do that on your phone, better than OG quality. Not an issue at all
@@decegrease ah so you can only play them on pc by being theives? okay good to know as I own both
Knowing Microsoft they will close more studios then say they need more studios like the ones they just closed.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 man I burst out laughing
Microsoft has closed more studios than number of consoles sold: 3
And how many has Playstation closed? Playstation is failing my guy. Playstation is that dude making payments on a BMW to look rich yeah you got a BMW but boy is it killing your pockets.
They still got more studios than PS. I hope you are enjoying CONCORD 😉
@@martinpanama23PlayStation is the market leader. So no.
I don’t care about hardware revisions, we need games!
Awesome games, not indie or live service or multiplayer trash.
@@cezarstefanseghjucan indies are better than most AAA games these days, devs need to work more with creativity and inovation and focus less on just graphics and doing interactive movies.
@@gab4198 this is spot on. Indie games are more likely to take risks and create innovative gameplay. It’s sad that Microsoft shut down Tango when their lower budget releases were arguably the best part of the Xbox platform as of late.
Hear hear
@@gab4198 What indies are worth playing?
i think what's most frustrating about this generation of playstation is that we basically ended up with a ps5 to play the best version of last generation games, so the baseline ps5 is really a ps4 pro mark ii -- makes me think the ps6 will be the ps5 pro mark ii given how few games are actually coming out, it will be even less significant than the ps5 launch. i guess that's what console generations are becoming. you get 2-3 exclusive games in 4 years, then in the latter half of the systems lifetime games actually start to come out, but don't run great until the next gen console? like wtf.
@@mysticliazrd87 And the PS3 was the best place to play PS2 games. What is your point here specifically?
You're right. I waited to play several current gen games for the pro update. The entire industry is destroying itself now. It's all woke now anyways so playing the best version is even less enticing. Gonna play spider man 2 just for the graphics. Otherwise wait for deep sale or for the games to come to a subscription service.
All media is evil propaganda now.
@@SaloonWreckeryour comment was too based and real. I expect it to get removed and you to be shadowbanned. These are the times we live in.
there won't be a need to buy a PS6 because they'll probably announce a PS6 Pro lol
Well the GPU and CPU will both get a substantial boost in power 4 years from now. Waiting 7 years to introduce a new CPU based on Ryzens latest innovations; is going to bump up the frame capability of a PS6 to the point where 240 hz games will run smooth but also have high quality imaging at 2k or 4K with an even more advanced form of pssr.
The real question is, how much will it cost? Sony is moving toward a more module approach which is a great idea. Have a base model with good internal specs and let the customer decide if they want the disk drive and added storage. Like a middle ground between console and PC.
They might as well just make a disk drive for PC that can read xbox one/series discs
Or just put Windows 12 on Xbox & make it a PC/Console hybrid.
@@Crazy_Gamer_OG i want this.
Or external disk reader support to series s
everything points towards "Just build/buy a PC" anyway in regards to Sony and Microsoft....PC + Switch 2 = all games
I wish they would. Valve sells Steam Decks, Microsoft should sell PCs. DirectX Box! DO IT NOW!
I dont think they have to do anything. In Norway, the PS5 Slim costs less than half of what the PS5 Pro costs currently. PS5 Slim is 4790,- NOK and PS5 Pro is 10190,- NOK. Nobody is going to spend over double the amount of money on a PS5 Pro than the regular PS5 Slim Digital (both come without a disc drive and stand). It's ridiculous.
Your right no one is going to pay twice the price for the pro. The pro would cost $900 if it was twice the price of the digital.
We don't need a pro version. I don't stare at bushes and shadows all day.
I stare at your mom's bush all day, though.
YOU dont. Dont speak for others.
You’re right… you’d need an actual game released to do that! 😂
@@FullSweatTryhard Like the PC day one PS4 remaster you're getting. Amazing.
@@rabbyd542 Why are you talking about PC’s? I’m talking about consoles here. The thing you throw into your living room, and attach to your big screen, and chill on the couch to play. Remember? A console! If you want to talk about PC, go somewhere where they are talking about PC’s. We are talking about consoles here you doink!
Oliver laughing at John's "Pro Hole" comment had me dying 😂
They’ll just buy Ubisoft and make another 2/5 game.
Dude Ubisoft has tried to get people to buy them, no one wants them.
Yeah, I remember how Concord went for them recently, oh wait wrong guys.
MicroSoft would be the best buyer for UbiSoft.
@@leonfrancis3418at least Sony gave refunds unlike redfall 😂😂😂
Whoever buys Ubisoft wants to lose money
Reducing prices, re starting backward compability program and announcing a few new games would helped them massively but I doubt they are that smart
I dont think you realize how much the back-compat program costs.
@@TKIvanovhow much does it cost then?
@@TKIvanovPlus I doubt the average Xbox user even makes much use of it.
@@TKIvanov how much?
@@manupasta lots
Paying licensing fees for some of these Back Compat games is simply not worth it.
Some people are still stuck in the past on how they think about Xbox. I am surprised that DF elevates those kind of topics. The main difference with Xbox now is, that they are one of the biggest publsihers now. That money they put out to acquire ABK & Bethesda has to be earned back, so they release on competitors platforms case by case. The idea that is a difficult PR scenario is beyond me, it only would make sense if you think like a platform warrior. The Xbox left the space to always have the best technical performance on a console with the Series S anyway. What they chase is engagement with the ecosystem regardless where you play. In the long run this benefits the company more than on the restricted console market. I see the PS5 Pro vs Xbox Series X discussion as a clever way to distract from the fact that Sony's game output of 1st party games is shockingly sparse.
In short, your xbox is dead... They are the next SEGA 😂😂😂😂. NO NEED FOR LONGER EXPLANATION TO JUSTIFY YOUR STUPIDITY 😂😂
After $ony “paid” them a visit and they released that video showcasing the ps5 pro, then it’s “what about Xbox?”. Mind you last week they were ishing in the pro.
@@jonathan-us5jmaww the little console fanboy is screaming and spamming emojis lololol
@@jonathan-us5jm Guessing you 9-10yrs old?
Microsoft *needs* to keep releasing games on competing platforms just to stop their ABK investment from losing value. What they wanted was for it to grow Game Pass to over 100m users by 2030, which is never going to happen. Buying ABK was not a strategic master stroke that changed the market in their favour, it was a massive F-up that has tied their hands.
The practical difference between a console and the PC is the UI. Windows can fix that by having an account to where you only need your controller to login and resume your game.
Microsoft's Response: Please take what little remains of our exclusives library.
XBox’s problem is simple.
Playstation “won” (hate calling it that) this generation because it focussed on single player experiences.
People WANT that. Yes people love playing Online games. Games that offer them a service. But usually gamers only have 1 or 2 games they’ll play online for the entire duration of that console’s lifespan. They won’t magically shift to the next best thing after investing hours and money in another service.
People that buy a console want the “ease” of buying a box, buying a physical game. Put the game in the console and just play. None of that other stuff. To gamers, Xbox feels more like a gaming PC. And at that point they might as well just buy that.
Why do you think Nintendo Switch is as big as it is? Because of Mario and Zelda alone? No. Because it is User friendly. None of that “buy a game disc, disc only contains 20% of the game, have to download the rest” kind of stuff.
It has clean looking UI without pulling 30 ads in your face as soon as you boot up the system. Just good old “put in a game you bought and play”. That simplicity brings the back joy in gaming.
Closest to the Switch we got now is the Playstation. But they are walking a tight rope with the departure of the former CEO, Sony seems to be shifting away from that type of experience: PS5 pro without a disc drive, PSportal that didn’t play games natively, the focus on live service games and an announcement that they want to improve “player retention”.
Astrobot is the best to happen to them for over a decade. I just hope they themselves see it that way.
Truth is, they all want to chase fortnite’s slice of the pie but don’t realise the player pool that is interested in these types of games is finite. And have most likely already commited to a couple of these services.
Remember what made Xbox such a huge thing? I’ll tell you:
Games that were popular on the PC and NOT available on Playstation or Nintendo were available on Xbox. Like Elder Scrolls, Doom3, Farcry, etc.
Playing Halo2 splitscreen with your friends. That’s gone because ‘online’.
Playing Gears of War for it’s offline mode. Nope, you gotta Sign in. Oh and the best mode you can’t play without a connection and the list goes on and on.
it really boils down to 1 thing and 1 thing only. Accessibility. A consumer friendly experience. People are tired of games turning into casino’s, app games, live services, advertising campaigns, political agenda’s, etc etc.
Gaming is our escape from reality.
But they are pushing us right back in it. We don’t want that. We just want to play a game.
That part about physical games is just not true. Most people get their games digitally. Physical game sales go down every year.
A $600 version of their current model with more storage. Oh wait they already did that. 😂
The uninstall button.
The game is great and all that, but god it is hard to fully remove all the junk it leaves behind on your system. You really need to check out that mod when the time comes to get rid of it.
Otherwise, I think Sonys PS5 PRO Overhaul is a nice start.
@@Jordanbiggs1473Methinks you replied to the wrong message. I’d be curious to see who you meant to reply to though
@@balaam_7087 um no the uninstall button...The game is great, Ubisoft goes Steamworks bye bye, always on DRM. But you oft go work, always on work DR. Check out the junk it leaves behind in you.
Is that supposed to be a joke? Do you think the Series X with 2TB is a response to the PS5Pro?
no the uninstall button...The game is great, Ubisoft goes Steamworks bye bye, always on DRM. But you oft go work, always on work DR. Check out the junk it leaves behind in you.@@balaam_7087
Phil Spencer will end up saying just buy a pc at that point. He would be right tho, u have the way to customize ur own system and make it balanced unlike the ps5 pro where the system is a 4K only system.
They won't do anything. I seriously do not believe Microsoft has a plan for their home consoles. They'd much rather turn Xbox into a service than a device, and this does them a disservice. I think he's a nice guy, but in my opinion it's time for Phil Spencer to step down.
I'll be that 'old head' that will refuse to play games without a hardware that powers its engine.
Xbox console brand is done either way. Phil Spencer yaps a lot but ultimately delivered nothing for Xbox brand or the gamers.
Don't even think game pass was his brain child but Microsoft's and Satya Nadella.
Time for Phil to leave.
The uninstall button.
The game is great and all that, but god it is hard to fully remove all the junk it leaves behind on your system. You really need to check out that mod when the time comes to get rid of it.
Otherwise, I think Sonys PS5 PRO Overhaul is a nice start.
Phil is a weasel, but it's ultimately not him making these calls. The current sad state of Xbox is down to directives from above aimed at keeping shareholders happy. I'm sure Phil would have been happy to keep throwing money into a bottomless pit trying to make people care about Xbox hardware again. The reality is that Xbox has never managed to recover from the Xbone disaster, and likely never will. The 360 glory days are so far in the past now that a lot of younger gamers won't even remember them. The brand is a laughing stock.
@@CaptainKenway 360 was the last great Xbox console. All over after that
They dont need new hardware. 2 more TF is negligible. A drop in price is key
I think Sony did not even mention the TFlop number for the PS5 Pro in their marketing material (it would be kind of pointless given the type of upgrades they made).
Cause it's not a generational leap. And this comes after 4 years. 67 percent overall that's around 16 to 17 tflops
Because tflops are not an accurate way of measuring anything , Xbox just focused on it because it was the one number they had higher and fanboys ran with it like the good little sheep for Xbox they are
@@weplayvrgames it's important for fps and better resolution. Don't be ignorant
@@mindrover777 says the guy going off tflops to measure power when that doesn't give an accurate measurement tflops are a calculation based on size and speed of GPU when certain aspects of games work better with a bigger GPU and some aspects work better with a faster GPU in basic terms but your lumping these aspects together under the tflops number which is why Xbox pushed that narrative they couldn't say they had a faster GPU only larger but saying you have higher tflop count makes it sound like everything is better when that isn't true now is it , stop being ignorant yourself and listening to dodgy marketing
It's not hard to Google tflop accuracy and see it's not a good way to measure real world performance
The smart response after MSoft's great showing at their showcase in June would be to drop the Series X price and bundle a decent Gamepass sub with it (6 months)
I hope Microsoft brings out another good machine that isn't too expensive and has good games before the PS6 comes out. Like the 360 did back then. Sony is starting to get on my nerves with their hubris. I was very happy with the PS4 and the PS5 for the first two years. Now Sony is in arrogance and ignorance mode.
We need games not a new console
They probably won't, do you see anyone buying a $700 Xbox at this point?.
Don't forget Xbox is trying to charge $599 for a 2 TB console and a $699 SpongeBob Series X without any hardware upgrades. Daily reminder.
They couldn't even sell the Series X for $200 last Christmas. So there definitely not selling it at $600 😂.
@@bobjoe5937 At least it'll still have a disk drive and limited edition always have outrageous prices but that's fine because the normal Series X is still $450. It'd be an issue if they put all Series X now for $599.
Make it 600 but actually upgrade cpu, gpu etc.
It sucks that they won't though. Ps5 is getting away with what they are doing with no competition
@@Deadeye012011 That was Series S, not X for 200
They will release the new xbox firestick lol
Xbox already responded with their new lineup of consoles: Xbox Series S with more storage at $350, All Digital Xbox Series X at $450, and the Special Edition Galactic Black Xbox Series X at $600.
Hahahahahahahahah
So the officially gave up. Nobody is buying that garbage
@@MrNYCinc I know nobody wants that garbage
They don’t have to react except use the power of the series X. It’s there it’s just not pushed to its fullest
Honestly its not necessary. Series x is capable of perfectly good visuals until next gen
Have you played Space Marine 2, Jedi Survivor, The First Descendant on performance mode? If you did you wouldn't say that. You may not care about them, but those are the games I play and I would like to play and they go below 1080p in performance mode and still drops to 46 fps which is fine for me since I have a tv with VRR, but the graphics are really just xbox one level and that's unacceptable.
@@sungjin-woo3894 get a pc then
@@robertcarr4172 why would I do that? Spend more money just to put it on upscaling from 600p to 1440p? 2080S and Ryzen 5 3600 can't even get 60 fps at 1080 with performance DLSS so pls at least look into what you are talking about. I'd have to spent at the very least double what I spent on my series x to get an acceptable experience.
Space Marine 2 is never below 1080p on the series x in performance mode, but the series s used a resolution between 720p-1080p.
For space marine 2 the best console at the moment is the series x, since it outperforms the ps5 by up to 10-15 fps (digital foundry made a test and this was the result).
They'd do well to do nothing. The Series S already harms Xbox development. Another SKU would not be helpful. Even undercutting Sony on price, they're still too far behind to sell like hotcakes. They should just focus on next gen.
They already did that though… 4 years ago… how did that turn out?
@michaellong2439 Wasn't feature parity and split screen the thing that delayed Baldur's Gate 3 on Xbox? You can cut back graphical settings for the GPU, but the CPU still needs to juggle AI, Physics, inputs, sound and moving stuff to the GPU.
The weakest console does still hinder developers.
lazy devs.. the Series S is a great piece of hardware if games can be scaled down to whatever hardware there is on PC there should be no excuse for the Series S.
No it doesn't, look at all the games released on PC they have minimum specs that are far below the Series S. This kind of thinking is antiquated.
@michaellong2439 none of the variables you mentioned change the fact that the Series S is a problem. All you did was point out other problematic hardware.
By crying even more 😂😂
Grow up, kid.
Xbox needs to step up the quality control on their games first. Owning random studios and making first party don’t automatically make good and good looking games.
Xbox? Never knew it was a real console. I know they have tons of online bots though.
What are you talking about 😂
Oh fck off! They had more games nominated at TGA last year and won more awards than PlayStation. PS users are losing their minds about the possibility of accessing Xbox titles like Forza Horizon, Flight Sim, Gears, Fable etc. Quality content is not issue for Xbox anymore, they won that.
True. Sony mostly makes movie games but atleast they come out polished.
All of Xbox 1st party have been disappointment this entire generation. (Halo infinite, Starfield, Senua etc)
Xbox has gone with quantity over quality to build Game pass numbers.
@crazechill1 and what does PlayStation have their best games a kids game
Honestly, Make a PC. Seriously. Make a Windows Gaming PC. Imagine a Windows Gaming PC without the desktop. It has the typical Xbox UI, support for multiple store platforms, but essentially locked down to just that UI/UX for maximum performance. They can standardize around typical hardware that they choose. Games could target that. Then roll that UI to other Windows PCs if they want to use it.
We already had that with Metro. Amd everyone absolutely hated it and they removed it. Theres already dozens of front ends for PCs. We dont need Xbox to come along and draw one up.
GTA 6 will sell consoles and first time console buyers will most likely go with the PS5 Pro if MS doesn’t bring a more powerful hardware.
No they won't. They will go with the cheapest option.
First-time console buyers will go with the PS5, because Sony will market the PS5 with GTA6. Plus, I get the feeling that GTA6 will release on PS5 first because the Series S version of the game won't be ready on time, and that will delay the Series X release as well.
They will go with the cheapest option, some might go with ps5 pro only if it's 60 fps (and it'snot a given)
@@JayceeGenocideBut they haven't? The PS5 outsells the Xbox by a staggering margin.
They will never go for PS5 pro it's very expensive
People will go for cheapest option so everyone can enjoy GTA 6 and that option Is Xbox series S which me and my friends are buying also
Make a price-competitive next gen xbox. I'd gladly buy their console.
If Microsoft ever made an Xbox-branded gaming PC, it would send shockwaves through the gaming world. It could feel like the final chapter in the iconic Xbox vs. PlayStation rivalry, signaling Microsoft’s decision to step back from the traditional console wars. A move like that could be seen as waving the white flag, admitting that they’re no longer focused on battling Sony head-on in the console arena.
But is it really surrender-or could it be the ultimate power move? Microsoft could be shifting their focus toward a future where gaming is platform-agnostic, where hardware matters less than access and performance. Imagine an Xbox ecosystem that thrives not on just one device, but on every device, seamlessly blending the best of PC and console gaming.
It could transform the way we think about gaming platforms, but yes, it could also bring an end to one of the most epic rivalries in gaming history. Would that be the end of the PlayStation vs. Xbox debate? Maybe-but the dawn of a whole new battlefield could be waiting.
an XSX with Windows would be LIT... I hope its successor is like that
@@LightningNavigator it could easily run both OS
"XBOX-branded PC"
...isn't that just a normal PC? I can already play all Xbox games day one on PC. I don't see the point of XBOX having to spending money on R&D, manufacturing, marketing, and distribution of a new XBOX PC. And XBOX has already shown signs of exiting the hardware market; it doesn't make sense that they would double down on hardware at this point.
@@duerf5826 think of price/performance ratio to gain more customers, though...
@@duerf5826
Yes, it would just be a PC. Although, I think the Xbox brand is so damaged that Microsoft would be better off starting fresh with a new name. With the Xbox 25th anniversary coming up in 2026, and with the rumor that the next gen hardware is launching in 2026, Microsoft has an opportunity to market the end of the Xbox era into the start of the new era of Microsoft gaming. Heck, they could even release an Xbox Mini as a way to say goodbye to Xbox. It'd really play on the nostalgia factor.
They're releasing their games day one on Steam for those who want the best experience on the best hardware. Far more valuable to me as a consumer than another piece of locked down hardware. An infinitely more appealing proposition to me than a "Pro" console that still falls behind the curve.
The only reason that I considering to buy a xsx is to play fable2, ngb, ng2 and old gears games at 4k60fps with hdr.
Gears of war 1 is 720p 60 fps. Gears 1 & 2 have no HDR. Only Gears of war 3 has HDR (1440p 60 fps). Fable 2 is 4K at 30 fps.
@erikouwehand xsx enhanced bc mod and auto hdr, the only reason I want to buy a xsx. It is up to Microsoft's effort what kind enhancement each game has if at all, but they no longer care about patching up games anymore.
Don't buy a TrashBox Series X
XSX is amazing for emulation tho. I use it to play PS1, PS2, Gamecube and Wii games better than on ps and nintendo consoles 😭
@@sergiosanchez3344 I got PC for that, speaking of emulator, the Xbox 360 emulator situation isn't good either, half of the gears games still got issues, ng2 visual artifacts, and don't get me started on fable2.
What's the point releasing a console rather than good games honestly? The PS5 Pro is almost pointless. Xbox are not in such a bad position all of a sudden (imo). They would be better off releasing something more original when the time is right.
Playstation not having any competition is a bad thing. Sony will become greedy and anti-consumer. No direct competition could mean a lack of innovation as well.
@@SammySam7x unfortunately Xbox aren't competing tho we need someone else to step in and give it a try as everything Microsoft has done gas only made things worse for gamers
Up until the Pro, Playstation fan boys thought a teraflop was a horror movie that did bad at the cinema.
All of a sudden now, they are chanting it like a mantra as if they know what they are on about.
Tflops has never been an accurate way to measure real world performance , but the Xbox fanboys shouted it as loud as they could as it was the only number they did have that was higher ,it's just karma don't shout about it if you don't understand it cause your only gonna look stupid when someone else comes along with a slightly higher meaningless number , these fanboy clowns are ridiculous on both sides
I thought it odd when Microsoft entered the console space. Perhaps Microsoft finally sees that too. Whats the point of a console without special features and exclusive titles?
Gamepass for me. £13 a month for two systems here
What was odd about it? The original xbox and 360 were incredible consoles. During the latter part of the 360 and xbox one era was when the console turned to shit
@@Protege88u means games turned to sh**
Better hardware at the price? I consistently see series X at 450 bucks where I live and building a pc that can run games at that same performance is at least 150-200 dollars more. You would need a 6750 XT which is getting close to the whole price of the console.
@@mikeuk666gamepass is anti consumer trash that shouldn't be supported , clearly haven't thought about what your supporting hard enough
What ever happened to that rumored “Sebile” controller? The one that I actually want to buy and not the same ones that are just different colors.
Both sony and microsoft are quickly relegating themselves to third party publishers.
They're attempting to have a console audience along with a pc audience. Going to be a rude awakening when they realise they've essentially encouraged consumers to just altogether ditch their platform and sony and microsoft will have to settle for competing for 70% revenue of their games on steam as just another third party publisher
When Sony's big AAA titles come day 1 to PC, and not a year or more later, then, and only then, can you make that comparison.
There is a reason Sony and Nintendo aren't doing what Microsoft is doing, it's the same reason why Microsoft *has* to release their games on competitors platforms...
2 of the 3 have healthy thriving businesses doing what they have done for over a decade...
I guess microsoft is less effected by getting rid of consoles compared to sony, since they focus on stuff like studios and gamepass anyway since years.
New controllers and PS5 pro patches for their ‘Project Latitude’ games
A handheld Xbox that at the minimum has Xbox OG and 360 backward compatibility.
Needs to have live streaming/Mobile data and full console support of gamepass, very powerful and very fast
Is John trying to say that MS needs to make an XB version of the Steam Machine?
What’s crazy is how much clock speed headroom Microsoft has on both of their consoles but chose to not tap into I think their hardware has proved far stable enough and they could boost easily 200 MHz and smoke base PS5 and nearly compete
... nearly compete with the PS5 Pro... yeah, they could/should ;(
They need an aspirational Xbox hardware that plays PC games but acts as set of technical specifications for their version of the “Xbox”. This aspirational PC-like Xbox must be simple like a console
Games, that's the best way to respond.
I feel like everyone has forgotten, that their new hardware is being announced in December. I think it's going to be a Gen10 device for next year.
Xbox Series X is my last console I’ll own from Microsoft. Over the years, they’ve made it clearer that they are not interested in console gaming but instead more focused on PC gaming and multi-platform even for PlayStation. I’ll focus more on PlayStation since they have demonstrated their vision in console gaming and investing in console upgrade while still maintaining their library games mostly on PlayStation and some games going to PC. I’ve already placed my PS5 Pro pre-order yesterday and looking forward to playing all new multi-platform 3rd party games on PS5 Pro.
Even if Microsoft releases their beefier Series 2 console in the future, it makes more sense to get a PC Gaming Rig and play all their games on PC while staying with a Sony PS5 Pro or PS6 console because I do enjoy the console more so than PC gaming even though PC will always be more powerful than console but I’m glad to see PlayStation closing the technological gap at least for now with the PS5 Pro to PC graphical experience.
Sony is going the same route lil man, the ps6 is done before even existing... You dont even know what youre talking, just repeating some bs
Thanks for the comment Mark Cerny
Every Sony game comes to PC now...
Next gen Xbox will be a hybrid pc. It is the only way they'll survive, and sony will have to adapt accordingly to survive. The only surviving console will be the Switch, for the near future at least.
@@BlackSkyZ2 For sony, yes. Microsoft? Nah, they have too much money to just die like that, the gaming portion(Xbox) makes a big chunk of money for MS.
Sony on the other hand, if playstation continuos to fail, sony will die and be reduced to a film company only
If MS could make a box which is basically running Windows 11 with a good user interface which interacts with Steam, Epic stores and others then that would be really interesting.
Would basically open up the idea of PC gaming to everyone.
So basically a mid to low end PC? Dont we have those already?
I don't think they need to do anything. Gta 6 will sell consoles.
I have a series x and im completely fine with it.
Xbox is dead lost war already cope😂
@SolarErazer they didn't lose. You don't make money on console sales. You make money of of game sales. And they own the gaming companies.
They already own half of the gaming industry and trust me, Microsoft is def not in a dire situation economically 😂
@@SolarErazerit's cute when the kids try to talk
@@SolarErazer you think people care about console wars like you do, kid.
Why people put earphones cables inside the shirts?
To stop the loose wire from getting caught on things as you move around and your hands
My mans about to have 4 PS5’s
Rumor is they are going the Handheld Route
MS will react by throwing out more controller colorways
There is no need for a mid gen upgrade
You may not get "bespoke" updates for these Xbox games for the PS5 Pro. It will run the games better with the upscaler but I don't see them supporting ray-tracing and other features right away without a significant patch released later on, likely timed very near to the next Xbox hardware launch.
After yesterday (the Horizon Zero Dawn price hike debacle and them selling a PS5 Anniversary Edition for 1,100 euros that only scalpers profited from) I'm ever so happy with my Series X. Just got Epic Mickey Rebrushed today
I have seen someone one eBay that is willing to pay 1500€ for a 30th edition. 😁
Really, He is searching for one.
I really don't understand your arguments. What Horizon ZD Remaster and price of PS5 Pro bundle have to do with Series X.
Base PS5 still exist and it's a very good piece of hardware with excellent games.
@@Meinnameful There's people who sold them for 4-5k
@@greggski3710 1. I don't like supporting companies that fool their customers.
2. What games? It's literally a meme that PS5 has no games
0% chance a mid-gen refresh works for xbox;
they should focus on optimising games with sr upscaling.
Xbox will respond by being grateful that Satya Nadella hasn't pulled the plug entirely, they will become purely a third party publisher like Sega in the near future.
Bill Paxton from Aliens says it best :D
They'll release an optimised PlayStation pro halo anniversary 25th edition
The best way for Xbox is to put all their subpar games on the Pro, and I mean with those Pro enhancements - just to make them somewhat more appealing for anyone, and worth buying.
Wtf is that guy talking about?!
The Xbox One X Destroyed the PS4 Pro in power and performance! It was stronger than a series S in a few regards! Just crazy talk.
All that power to just play xbox 360 games.What a shame.
@@marioricardo7934 right... i got a pro for psvr, i did not get an x because they had no vr and 95% of my games were 360 games.
@@caliginousmoira8565 VR games don't sell well enough for Xbox to bother investing in it, especially when they still in a distant 3rd in the console market.
Xbox one x powerr Destroys ps4 pro??? But what does the power did to you when one X doesn't have even good exclusives? Lmao!!!!
@@jonathan-us5jm Sony doesn't have good exclusives, either. What's your point? 90% of support for the Pro & One X came from 3rd party games anyways. The difference being the One X always was the better version.
Phil already responded when asked about mid gen consoles. He said no, we're focusing on the games. I couldn't agree more.
🤣🤣🤣
Sony: PS5 Pro
Microsoft: Spills it’s beer
Sony: PS5 Pro
Nintendo: get ready for Switch 2
Microsoft: Massive Xbox division layoffs 😂😂😂🤣
They should release the PC Box: prebuilt PCs in sleek small factor cases, similar to the Xbox, running both Windows and a dedicated, console-like gaming mode of the OS. 3 models with different specs, the higher one being basically a Pro model, maybe the equivalent of a 4080 but priced lower than a prebuilt from other brands with that GPU. They already make peripherals, so a line of gaming keyboards and mice (mouses?) as optional accessories. Just an idea.
They'll respond by putting their games on Android, Linux and microwaves
I'd like it if they released some of the machine learning magic ahead of time on the Series S/X to get more performance.
I think microsoft made a mistake making xbox games come to pc, ppl won’t buy an xbox console bc they can just go to pc. Sony has no competition at this point. Maybe until ps6 comes out, microsoft can make a very competitive product and offer, maybe make some cool games. Idk.
Really they botched all their exclusives and don't seem to be very active in quality control and ensuring they get fixed
Im playing all Sony's games on PC too
Playing a pc on your tv is the most inconvenient thing you can do.
@@stevenm1832 no it's not. I use my 4090 laptop (like 4070ti performance) and it's easy. In fact, it's far easier to move it than console.
I play on my controller huge screen very comfortably.
@@stevenm1832 It's really not.
They will respond with the “ New dawn” of halo💀😭
If they really wanted to outsell the PS5, drop the Series X to $400!
Still wouldn't outsell ps5 lol
Nobody wants an Xbox 😂
I play Xbox my handheld 😬…and series X and PC and phone…consoles 😂😆🤣
lol no one wants that trash even if it was 300.
Isnt that the whole point of the Series S? That didnt outsell anything either.
By making games that run on Series S, so PS5 Pro is basically in the same position of the Series X which ironically is the base PS5. It’s pointless
Xbox Series X: “World’s most powerful console”
PS5 Pro: “Lemme just yoink that title real quick”
good point
At a 700 dollar price point is a shit argument to make nerd lol God you are such a damn nerd lmao
For $700...
@@zeohblitz Or for 600 you can get an Xbox Series X. Same power same performance but with glitter sprinkled on it.
@@pixeljauntvr7774 I'd say just get a pc even for $800+
What microsoft needs is a portable series like the steamdeck. It will make it competitive again.
Respond?! HA, their console is barely selling and their focus is primarily on Game Pass. Unless they want to do something mindblowing that feels different from other consoles, making a Pro version of their own would be pointless.
Microsoft just needs to release more games and a haptics controller.
Whatever they do they are going to lose and keep losing for ages and ages for keeping GP as priority 😞
Meanwhile microsoft's gaming division overtook sony as #2 (#1 is tencent) most valued gaming company worldwide by gaming revenue at the end of 2023 😅
Gamepass is expected to increase to $5.5 billions in 2025, while microsoft paid ~$1 billion for third party games who join the gamepass, so it's a very high profit-margin for them.
Why should they change anything if it's working out fine?
There’s absolutely no reason to counter with a Series X Pro. Power wise, the generation is still held back by the Series S.
Apart from graphics, what meaningful improvement has this generation or last really brought to the table? They’re just shinier Xbox 360s with weaker AAA lineups.
If Microsoft wants back on top, they need to focus on games and service, not incrementally better hardware.
Launching next-gen early would be a mistake too…. Unless they just throw the towel in on this gen, ride games as service for a couple years, while every first party studio pivots to support the next gen launch window.
How will Microsoft respond to the PlayStation 5? 🤔
Unless I’m mistaken they literally said they “lost”
@@marufsarkar100 they won't and don't plan to . Xbox has given up.
They don't even have as much indies as PS5 lol and I'm on Xbox as,it's so lacking but the features quick resume etc are cool
They never responded to the ps4.
Why are you not talking about DirectSR , AutoSR, and New Optimization Features of Direct X 12.2 Ultimate ? Upcoming features may be new Variable Rate Shading, Direct Storage or etc !
Make something with a better cpu would be a good start
letting xbox run windows seems like the best move for them, they should just make a version of windows with a console os feel, another good thing from that would be handhelds being able to use that os, this seems like such a good move to do, i dont understand why they havent done it
How do they respond? DONT!!! I don’t see the need for a pro version, and I’m a PlayStation kind of guy. This is a waste of money when they haven’t even fully pushed the limits of the PS5. And all we have this generation is remasters of older titles. What’s the point ?
Oh shut up Karen. 😂😂😂😂 Haven't you noticed that all games on performance mode have low resolution that makes shimmering result. That's them already at the limit. Which is why pro was needed to increase resolution while maintaining the 60fps.. Resolution performance of base ps5 is capped at lower resolution for performance mode.
God of War Ragnarok was running at 120 frames. Returnal was running at 60 frames but barely able to make 1080P the idea that they are not pushing these consoles is a straight myth and EXACTLY why there is a PS5 PRO in the first place targeting 4K 60.
@@OTG1776 sorry about that, I thought you said pro isn't needed.. You are right, ps5 pro existed to let us run quality mode at 60fps.. Not even a single ps5 games right now runs quality mode at 60fps, because of hardware limit we are force to play lower resolution to play in 60fps.
This. Xbox needs to pick their battles, and this isn't one they can win right now. Especially with the Switch successor looming. That thing will suck up all the attention. Let Sony keep eating Ls with pricing, hardware supply droughts and game cancellations.
If a next gen X-Box console or whatever has Steam on it I'd be thrilled with that . I already have Steam on PC .
I was planning on getting an Xbox series x later this year, but this scenario really makes me insecure about it. It feels like Microsoft won't support the console from now on, that they'll focus entirely in their subscription service and nothing more.
Feeling more and more about going for a Ps5, even though I already have some games in my Xbox account, because it seems a better choice on the long run.
Guys build a pc instead! Keep all of your Xbox library thru game pass while playing at the highest quality 😁 I just built my first pc ever and now recommending to anyone who is jumping the console-ship. I have never played games at such a stunning quality and I am 28 years old, trust me when I say that there’s no better gaming experience than on pc.
If XBox opens up their console to PC, would that impact the rumors we’re hearing about a handheld? At that point, and arguably right now I guess as well, any windows handheld can play XBox games and everything else. They would need to somehow stand apart in that space and be completely open and unrestricted, otherwise any windows or PC handheld on the market would already be better than it right out of the box in many aspects.
I remember the XSX's selling point was it being the most powerful console ever made. A bit of a weird situation now where the PS5 Pro is going to objectively be the best platform to play stuff like GTA6.
With that CPU? I doubt it will be a significant difference. Maybe with upscaling but at that point, will it even run at 60 fps?
As somebody that skip the switch and ps5 and still on the wiiu u and ps4 slim cant wait to get switch pro and ps5 pro
React to what? A console to play remasters?
People joked about this when Sony revealed the PS5 Pro then got immediately validated after Sony announced Horizon Remaster during State of Play lol
Then xbox is what ? A console to play backwards compatible games
@@2387varunat least it is backwards compatible all the way to the original Xbox. Unlike the Playstation.
And it can run unsigned code. Which allows it to run more playstation games than playstation and more Nintendo games than Nintendo. So what’s your point?
Looking forward to the Demon’s Souls Remake Remaster. In all seriousness I bet it will come out before Bloodbourne.
@@jaredcrane7547lol Xbox has trash ass backwards compatibility. It’s not real backwards compatibility.
They’re releasing a gorgeous clear with gold trigger controller. Seriously that’s the best controller they’ve done since the starfield one, absolutely gorgeous. And yes, as usual it’s leagues ahead of the crappy 30th anniversary range which is only good because it’s extremely limited.
I will laugh my ass of in 1ß2 years Buckingham the neckt Xbox for less than a pro thinking about all These fanboys in the comment section here.
Microsoft has already stated at the start of this generation that there was no need for a mid gen refresh.
They need to make an Xbox-X slim and price cut. I dont want a fridge under my telly but something small.
Seeing that more people are playing older games and the game companies seem to have lost touch with what their customers want. A pro or next Gen version of a console seems pointless.