I'll admit, not impressed at all with the racing at Daytona for the NASCAR Fusion. But the rest of the game looks great, still very much contemplating a purchase.
Jesus I love this game. I feel like, unless Slightly Mad goes back to sim with PC 4, this is the only true simulator on PS4... I like Assetto Corsa, but PC 2 feels like the real whole package. Great presentation, amazing helmet cam, amazing graphics, amazing driving feeling...
I love looking at telemetry! Right off the bat I can tell you that you need more of a camber angle. Hotter tire temps in the rear, no wonder you are so loose. Many ways to fix that.
In real life it's is often that the cars can spin coming off of the turns because coming of the banking the cars get really light and if air from other cars is in the right place you can get turned around
I’ve recently started watching nascar because Cars is my favourite movie, so I bought project cars 2 on sale on the PS4. I think it’s good, but I just wanted to ask if nascar heat 4 or 5 are worth buying. I’m also interested in racing online. Do people still race online on Nascar heat 4 or have most players moved to heat 5?
dragonflyGT I’ve watched some videos of it and it looks good, but it is expensive and I don’t have a PC. Maybe I’ll get one in the future for iRacing. For now, I think I’m gonna get Nascar heat 5 just to get used to Nascar driving.
I have a big problem with the nascars In this game. For some odd reason they have tons and tons of understeer in controller even though I'm going super slow and pulling the stick to the left. I was going only 200km ph and I try to turn a corner with no throttle input and I smash into wall.
AptCellar 91407, I heard that at launch in Forza 7 they have Daytona, Indianapolis, Homestead, Sonoma, Watkins Glen, and Road America for NASCAR tracks, but they also have many other tracks to enjoy as well :)
Great game overall, but the stock car racing and AI are ATROCIOUS. This just isn't anything like restrictor plate racing, and no cautions is the final nail in the coffin for this part of the game. The rest of the game is pretty damn good.
The Jerico transmissions they used to use didn't require the clutch to up shift. Only required for down shifts and out of neutral in the pits. Whether or not they still use these transmissions, I don't know.
Great vid, I received PC2 in the mail today, I have not loaded it yet but I'm looking forward to trying it for sure. This looks more like Nascar in the 80's-90's when I used to watch religiously.BTW new sub here. Keep up the great sim racing vids, you are good at it.
I have just the "group" for this mission and we will start to work on it as soon as we wrap up our current schedule maybe you can join us for an "official" Race?
I preordered PCars 2 and I've loved it so far. I've thoroughly enjoyed racing the Sportscars and the road course Indycars. I was a little disappointed in the Indycars on ovals. Every single time in turn one at Indy the AI ran each other in the grass and I would always either crash, or get a puncture from debris in turn 1 after the AI crashed. I guess I'll just stick to rFactor for my Indycar oval racing.
Enjoying the channel, been going through a lot of the previous videos. How does the oval racing compare to Nascar Heat 2 ? Got an itch to try some oval racing again and it's borderline impossible using a controller in Rfactor 2 so need to look for another option as getting a wheel is out of the question at the moment.
Max Throttle eh? I've also seen Miles Behind - both driver names from the 1980s racing game Revs. Someone at SMS was feeling a bit nostalgic! Hope Gloria Slap's in there too!
One problem I've been having with the game while racing on ovals is the car pulls towards the wall. Any solutions to that? I've adjusted the weight jacking, camber, caster, toe-in, tire pressure and nothing works. Is it because I'm using a controller, or did you have the same problem with the wheel?
1) You can tune the car in so many ways. 2) Its not a Nascar game. There are no cautions/flags or penalties (during the race for improper driving ON TRACK) 3) Ai quality depend on your aggression and level setting. 4) Pit stops aren't up to a full Nascar game or reality. 4 5) Still pitting and Ai awareness is not up to good levels. 6) It depends on where you drive. (Daytona and Indianapolis ovals are around 80% okay, whereas Texas isn't because of the short track and the pit entrance. Lastly) iRacing is only fully online with all real names human drivers. It is a paid subscription and doesn't have to program any Ai or offline career. It's maintenance and updates are amazingly quick, because humans pay in a revolving way for online content in many ways. A career/offline/Ai game, that's online as well, has to do everything. It also usually diesnt have the cash flow of a subscription game. A non-dedicated simulation/sim-cade/arcade game that doesn't specialize in Nascar or any one particular thing or one for just Many platforms, will never be as detailed or exclusive/inclusive as a targeted game. There are sectors on an oval and that "Talk" is English. As in from England. Not "Yankee" talk from Northern USA. (especially not the non salary capped disgraceful NY Yankees) Only 15 laps on an oval is a disgrace. 5Xs time should do nothing. It's less than 3 hours. If you had 31 other humans, it would be awesome. Well like 15 online.
Yup i do. Been following nascar since 2004. Favorite driver is kevin harvick. Ive been to 2 brickyard 400s. Let me rephrase my comment. If this game studio actually did some studing on nascar rules and physics then i believe they could make a good game. Of course they would have to figure out real pack racing and other stuff. 704 games did a good job with nascar heat 2 but its not the greatest.
Bottom line is if nascar gave this studio a chance to make a full nascar game with the right physics/rules and everything then i believe they could of made a better game then 704 games.
Malik Alexander ok. I was born in 2005. I've been following for four years. Because of seeing it when I'm with my grandpa I got so IN TO IT. It makes me ashame that it's only been for years I've been with it. I have big respects for Kevin Harvik. I'm not lying when I say I think he is going to be in the final four with Martin Truex Jr, Kyle Bush and Kyle Larson
They are two completely different types of games. NASCAR Heat 2 is an arcade game and PC2 is a simulation. I think it's hard to compare the two games directly since you have to want different things from each game to really enjoy it for what it is
Multiplayer can suck when guys don't put the practice in on the tracks and jump directly into multiplayer. Winning is somewhat easy. If you get out in front just hold the bottom lane because 9 out of 10 guys are too afraid or inexperienced to make a pass high by the wall.
Your video name is misleading. I was figuring you'd run at Texas and makes some oval claims there, not at a plate track, where Slightly Mad Studios has obviously never developed a proper drafting system.
HOW THE FUCKING FUCK DO YOU EXIT PIT WITHOUT GETTING PENALTY IN THIS TRACK???? I get Fucking warnings everytime I exit pit to go on track. Regardless if I go on track early or all the way at the end by the cones, it gives me penalty.
andypandy1114 I think the penalties need turning off for the whole game till they sort it out. I get penalties going down the middle of a straight and in rallycross it's near impossible.
ok I watched about 15 mins.. and I stick with yes.. The real cars are way harder to correct once sliding, the race was not ran correctly by the AI at all, there was zero lining up and bump drafting... there should have been two tight lines of cars, not cars constantly fishing around each other and going 3 wide to pass lol. Maybe racing on a 1.5 mile track would be fun on PC2 but the plate racing is all wrong.
Yes! I proved this exactly event today but i couldn't make it, the ia i putted in 120% AND they were 4 seconds faster than me in qualifyin, even with a good setup...!
That's kinda sad... Slightly Mad promised ovals in PC 1 .... now we know why they bailed. Like actually Oval racing -getting the physics right must be harder than it looks.
WTF??!!? that is the shitiest AI I've ever seen. Entering the corners on the apron? lol. and randomly swerving really fast, not working together in the draft Graphics are good though Go to IRacing! Far better
people will never be satisfied even if the perfect game smacked them in the face lol not saying project cars 2 but it is a great game to be complaining about all the little track details I love this game
This game is made for multiplayer the ai sucks. They need to work on that the drafting and everything else. They need to add every track in the future for nascar and every car from Gen 1 to Gen 6. They need I make the tracks look like the tracks and get rid of the pit road walls and cones that aren’t there.
Stock car racing at Daytona is trash. Hit the wall, you're done for. Impossible to win, no matter what difficulty you choose. Only way I can think of winning is running 100-200 laps. Rest of the game, challenging but fun.
If we talk about NASCAR games, there is nothing like NR2003 and iRacing. That's the truth.
Because there is a specific kind of physics on NASCAR that almost any game can resemble them.
NASCAR dirt to Daytona and Thunder 2004 are awesome games also.
Iracing is a SIMULATION nor a game
Papy (Papyrus) was great with Nascar 3. The red car in front of David at the start was allllll over the place (unrealistically)...
@@nascartoday8849 It's a game that simulates. In the end they are all games.
Nascar heat 2 cars need to sound like this.
the sound of Nascar heat 2 is from 2002
this is more nascar than the nascar games
YES!!!
Yeah but the idle sounds so digital and there is no fly-by sound....
Why tf does daytona look like it's never been paved
Jeremías Siddle and why is the Daytona print on the wall 10 feet off from the start\finish line, I know it's not a big deal but it messes with my ocd
Giovanni Tirado Not only that, the lettering is smaller and faded as well. Why do they have a wall on pit road that separates the grass?
Radney Johnson and I notice these things the most because I go to the 500 and 400 every year, it's not only my home track it's my FAVORITE track.
the wall is so that ai doesn't freak out when near pits
phoondos ohhhhhhhh ok
Holy crap there's an actual spotter
Rob The Closer you can literally hear a spotter telling him someone's on his rear quarter
1:54 he said "outside"
Yes, you can also add the spotter on "spotterless" classes if you want.
I'll admit, not impressed at all with the racing at Daytona for the NASCAR Fusion. But the rest of the game looks great, still very much contemplating a purchase.
Agron Bashota get it, physics is a whole lot better than the first one. Just behind AC
The game is awesome, can have a proper Indycar season
The Nascar stuff is not perfect but still enjoyable enough =)
If you haven’t bought it yet it’s on game pass man!
I hope they can add the Toyota and Chevy Nascar for doc and it can solidify the Nascar category and possibly old Nascar as well
the double yellow line should be closer together, the black line down the middle is only to make the yellow line more noticeable
Daytona Rising with the 2010 track surface
Racing this track in Multiplayer with others that know how to race an oval is very enjoyable.
Agreed but alot of people suck at keeping it steady
SternLX my friend loves to stay in last and create a road block 😂
@@trisdenreyer9613 that’s usually a controller player it’s extremely hard to hold a line on a oval with a controller
It's kinda funny the Jeff Gordon rip-off car is the #16 because I believe Jeff Gordon has said he originally wanted to race the #16 not the #24.
He originally had the 46. But the movie company that made Days of Thunder owned the rights to the number, so Jeff went with the 24.
And you have 24 likes 😂
Playing PC2 and it's difficult to get the Ford Fusion tuned right. So much more realistic and immersive than NH2 in my opinion. An amazing game.
Jesus I love this game.
I feel like, unless Slightly Mad goes back to sim with PC 4, this is the only true simulator on PS4... I like Assetto Corsa, but PC 2 feels like the real whole package. Great presentation, amazing helmet cam, amazing graphics, amazing driving feeling...
I loved Nascar in Project Cars 1 Beta. For some reason they removed it from the final game in Project Cars 1.
I love looking at telemetry! Right off the bat I can tell you that you need more of a camber angle. Hotter tire temps in the rear, no wonder you are so loose. Many ways to fix that.
In real life it's is often that the cars can spin coming off of the turns because coming of the banking the cars get really light and if air from other cars is in the right place you can get turned around
I like how you explain the game and race in detail. And the history of the sport. You got yourself a Subscriber sir!
If anything for Nascar they could've added it in DLC to make sure it's correctly implemented
I’ve recently started watching nascar because Cars is my favourite movie, so I bought project cars 2 on sale on the PS4. I think it’s good, but I just wanted to ask if nascar heat 4 or 5 are worth buying.
I’m also interested in racing online. Do people still race online on Nascar heat 4 or have most players moved to heat 5?
pay the price and come to iRacing if you wanna best with experienced oval racers.
dragonflyGT I’ve watched some videos of it and it looks good, but it is expensive and I don’t have a PC. Maybe I’ll get one in the future for iRacing.
For now, I think I’m gonna get Nascar heat 5 just to get used to Nascar driving.
Yeah there's still a lot of people on heat 4
I have a big problem with the nascars In this game. For some odd reason they have tons and tons of understeer in controller even though I'm going super slow and pulling the stick to the left. I was going only 200km ph and I try to turn a corner with no throttle input and I smash into wall.
I have the exact same problem
Hey I don’t know if you’re still struggling but I found out that you need to change your speed sensitivity
Why does the spotter sound like the spotter from NASCAR 08 for PS3
Anyone know if FM7 Will have Nascar Racing at Launch ?
Nathan09786 it does
Yes, Christopher Steppat.
Nathan09786 they better. Also they better have more oval racing choices. If not I won't be happy
AptCellar 91407, I heard that at launch in Forza 7 they have Daytona, Indianapolis, Homestead, Sonoma, Watkins Glen, and Road America for NASCAR tracks, but they also have many other tracks to enjoy as well :)
Frowny13 [Frowny Toboban] that's the same ovals as last year. I'm asking for ovals. Thank for the help though
Great game overall, but the stock car racing and AI are ATROCIOUS.
This just isn't anything like restrictor plate racing, and no cautions is the final nail in the coffin for this part of the game.
The rest of the game is pretty damn good.
DISCO-INFERNO-70 don't forget the wall of death. Hit the wall, you're glued and done for in terms of winning.
AutoRockinRacing94 yea you’re GLITCHED into the wall
It sucks :/
How do I play NASCAR in project cars 2 for PS4?
Pick Daytona Track Go to Car Pick Ford fusion
@@derechtedean6923 months ago i found out, but thx for the help
I know I'm being nit-picky but NASCAR stock cars do use a clutch when shifting at all time during oval and road race's.
The Jerico transmissions they used to use didn't require the clutch to up shift. Only required for down shifts and out of neutral in the pits. Whether or not they still use these transmissions, I don't know.
TWO VIDEOS IN ONE DAY??? MADNESS!
David Land great video as usual
norfolk southern productions How did you watch a 19 minute video in one minute?
no dodges? Oh how the world mocks me #bringbackdodge
Same dodge always had the coolest car
you should play iracing
Great vid, I received PC2 in the mail today, I have not loaded it yet but I'm looking forward to trying it for sure. This looks more like Nascar in the 80's-90's when I used to watch religiously.BTW new sub here. Keep up the great sim racing vids, you are good at it.
This was a fun video!! GOD THIS GAME IS BEAUTIFUL
do you think set up work with a field of real drivers would create a more realistic race?
Almost certainly.
I have just the "group" for this mission and we will start to work on it as soon as we wrap up our current schedule maybe you can join us for an "official" Race?
I preordered PCars 2 and I've loved it so far. I've thoroughly enjoyed racing the Sportscars and the road course Indycars. I was a little disappointed in the Indycars on ovals. Every single time in turn one at Indy the AI ran each other in the grass and I would always either crash, or get a puncture from debris in turn 1 after the AI crashed. I guess I'll just stick to rFactor for my Indycar oval racing.
How do I get the spotter to talk?
Try monza historic oval
I love this game
I would like to see the same video analysis if the game is patched soon to see if it improves. top work man, amazing videos
Just go the game and the stock cars are undriveable as soon as I press on the gas my back end goes around! What can I do to fix this?
I did real 500 Laps at Daytona...in Real Time. It was awesome, but the Game still missed some of the real NASCAR feeling.
Enjoying the channel, been going through a lot of the previous videos. How does the oval racing compare to Nascar Heat 2 ? Got an itch to try some oval racing again and it's borderline impossible using a controller in Rfactor 2 so need to look for another option as getting a wheel is out of the question at the moment.
Why don't you try the Fusion at Texas?
I like nascar like racing and drifting so should i go with pc2 or rfactor 2
How many places did you gain !!!!!!!!!!!!
Is there a side draft mechanic?
Max Throttle eh? I've also seen Miles Behind - both driver names from the 1980s racing game Revs. Someone at SMS was feeling a bit nostalgic! Hope Gloria Slap's in there too!
Is this game worth getting
At this point I still don’t get why ppl don’t use the third person camera. It’s just so much easier
NASCAR heat two and three need graphics like this
The only thing I hate when I hit the wall it sucks you to it and you can't get off the wall even if you turn the whole wheel
Do you control your car under pit road
Watching oval racing: boring
Racing oval with other cars: fun
Wow look at the glitchy shadows of the floodlights on the track - flicker flicker flicker
One problem I've been having with the game while racing on ovals is the car pulls towards the wall. Any solutions to that? I've adjusted the weight jacking, camber, caster, toe-in, tire pressure and nothing works. Is it because I'm using a controller, or did you have the same problem with the wheel?
Do you think I should wait to buy the game or buy it now? I was really looking forward to oval racing (Indycar). What do you think?
If you JUST want oval IndyCars, and only want to race the AI, I would say no. But its a damn good game.
David Land Thanks a lot. I have project cars and I thought it was a solid game despite some ai issues. You're right though, the game looks amazing.
Wait for the one month patch... most of these sims get polished a few months post release.
Jim Wilson Ty
Any tips for driving with controller? Seems like I'm losing speed at random 😂
tbh get a cheap wheel. g29, g920, or T300rs
@@capone6225 driving force GT, G27, G25. Some good properly cheap options
Do you use wheel for this race if so, what setup
I'll point out that the default mirror quality is low in this game, tweaking it higher makes it far better
What's the deal with the restrictor plates?
Metal Gamer limits the amount of horsepower a motor can produce. Just a way to slow the cars down..
Why?
compare fm7 nascar to pc2 nascar
Tyres, Cole, tyres is what wins races. (I'll get my coat).
Days of thunder
@@adriankn6887 y
Why does the ai always pull away and spread out , like this is a 1 1/2 mile track ?
1) You can tune the car in so many ways. 2) Its not a Nascar game. There are no cautions/flags or penalties (during the race for improper driving ON TRACK) 3) Ai quality depend on your aggression and level setting. 4) Pit stops aren't up to a full Nascar game or reality. 4
5) Still pitting and Ai awareness is not up to good levels. 6) It depends on where you drive. (Daytona and Indianapolis ovals are around 80% okay, whereas Texas isn't because of the short track and the pit entrance. Lastly) iRacing is only fully online with all real names human drivers. It is a paid subscription and doesn't have to program any Ai or offline career. It's maintenance and updates are amazingly quick, because humans pay in a revolving way for online content in many ways. A career/offline/Ai game, that's online as well, has to do everything. It also usually diesnt have the cash flow of a subscription game. A non-dedicated simulation/sim-cade/arcade game that doesn't specialize in Nascar or any one particular thing or one for just Many platforms, will never be as detailed or exclusive/inclusive as a targeted game. There are sectors on an oval and that "Talk" is English. As in from England. Not "Yankee" talk from Northern USA. (especially not the non salary capped disgraceful NY Yankees) Only 15 laps on an oval is a disgrace. 5Xs time should do nothing. It's less than 3 hours. If you had 31 other humans, it would be awesome. Well like 15 online.
The spotter reminds me of the spotter from the Nascar 09 arcade machine game
Is this a mod?
Nope
I spent all this time waiting for the night race and it never came
If nascar gave them the chance to make the next nascar game it would be 10× better then nascar heat 2.
Malik Alexander WRONG. SO WRONG. do you really know NASCAR.
Yup i do. Been following nascar since 2004. Favorite driver is kevin harvick. Ive been to 2 brickyard 400s. Let me rephrase my comment. If this game studio actually did some studing on nascar rules and physics then i believe they could make a good game. Of course they would have to figure out real pack racing and other stuff. 704 games did a good job with nascar heat 2 but its not the greatest.
Bottom line is if nascar gave this studio a chance to make a full nascar game with the right physics/rules and everything then i believe they could of made a better game then 704 games.
Malik Alexander ok. I was born in 2005. I've been following for four years. Because of seeing it when I'm with my grandpa I got so IN TO IT. It makes me ashame that it's only been for years I've been with it. I have big respects for Kevin Harvik. I'm not lying when I say I think he is going to be in the final four with Martin Truex Jr, Kyle Bush and Kyle Larson
They are two completely different types of games. NASCAR Heat 2 is an arcade game and PC2 is a simulation. I think it's hard to compare the two games directly since you have to want different things from each game to really enjoy it for what it is
The reason it's bad is the cars don't actually have restictors in the game...
Mac Ingram what is that?
For a game without restrictor plates, the cars don't top 190
Without drafting at Daytona im reaching about 195mph. 200 is possible in draft.
There are restrictor plates in the game, but there is no way for the AI to adhere to the rule.
For me I can’t touch the gas without it sliding if I am at a steady 10 mph it feels like it’s on ice anyone else have this problem
Licorice turn on traction control or actually try to throttle control noob
Jinglemybells23 nah I ain’t using that fake shit I got a wheel for a reason I want it to feel as realistic as possible
Jinglemybells23 I have gotten to where I can throttle control it’s kinda difficult after driving so many different cars
The guy that finished last name was James Newman
Ryan newman
i didnt watch the whole video i missed the crash is there yellow flags
Multiplayer can suck when guys don't put the practice in on the tracks and jump directly into multiplayer. Winning is somewhat easy. If you get out in front just hold the bottom lane because 9 out of 10 guys are too afraid or inexperienced to make a pass high by the wall.
Your video name is misleading. I was figuring you'd run at Texas and makes some oval claims there, not at a plate track, where Slightly Mad Studios has obviously never developed a proper drafting system.
People aren't realizing real life stock cars are very difficult to control
Ps4?
I couldn’t even get the car to turn when I played
HOW THE FUCKING FUCK DO YOU EXIT PIT WITHOUT GETTING PENALTY IN THIS TRACK????
I get Fucking warnings everytime I exit pit to go on track. Regardless if I go on track early or all the way at the end by the cones, it gives me penalty.
K9-1000 I turned off pit lane penalties for this track
andypandy1114 I think the penalties need turning off for the whole game till they sort it out. I get penalties going down the middle of a straight and in rallycross it's near impossible.
Why oval racing is difficult on this game?
Why is there no Chevy or Toyota, also have y'all seen the dodge gen 6 stock car that was never raced. It was amazing
Do Indy car on the Daytona road course
hey david how do they shift without a cluch wont tear the trans out
Vincent Adkins because the teeth on the transmission gears are widely spread out so they can have more room and time to cram it into gear
Jason thanks I just didn't know how it was possible
Why is it only fords
Im gonna say YES before watching the video. (I will watch though)
ok I watched about 15 mins.. and I stick with yes..
The real cars are way harder to correct once sliding, the race was not ran correctly by the AI at all, there was zero lining up and bump drafting... there should have been two tight lines of cars, not cars constantly fishing around each other and going 3 wide to pass lol. Maybe racing on a 1.5 mile track would be fun on PC2 but the plate racing is all wrong.
HOW DO YOU HAVE GOD AI MY AI JUST BUMP, SLOW DOWN, CRASH,
IM planing to get project cars 2 on ps4
I can't turn on a controller
Guys now there’s nascar heat 5
You're clipping mate force feedback, it's the last red bar of the 6 bars bottom left with one horizontal one, Basically need to turn the volume down
Be nice if they would add toyota and chevys
Not the correct downforce package
I like the interior view for the stock cars tbh I like NASCAR in pj2
The winner is always max throttle to win in Daytona lol.
This is way better then Nascar heat 2
And with only ten times the budget of NH2... lol
Ovals are WAY better on NASCAR Heat 2
Seahawkfan1995 NH2 is actually a great game in my opinion. This game has better graphics, but the gameplay looks way worse.
Seahawkfan1995 am I impolite if I say that everything is better the NASCAR Heat
Jim Wilson and has a lot more variety in other series.
Yes! I proved this exactly event today but i couldn't make it, the ia i putted in 120% AND they were 4 seconds faster than me in qualifyin, even with a good setup...!
Cars feel better but that's it for right now.
Do multiclass at Long Beach
That's kinda sad... Slightly Mad promised ovals in PC 1 .... now we know why they bailed.
Like actually Oval racing -getting the physics right must be harder than it looks.
Do more Nascar Heat 2!
This game needs bristol motor speedway
On Xbox for me the nascars don’t turn at all
WTF??!!? that is the shitiest AI I've ever seen. Entering the corners on the apron? lol. and randomly swerving really fast, not working together in the draft
Graphics are good though
Go to IRacing! Far better
It's not on ps4 tho :(
The problem with iRacing is that it's really damn expensive
people will never be satisfied even if the perfect game smacked them in the face lol not saying project cars 2 but it is a great game to be complaining about all the little track details I love this game
This game is made for multiplayer the ai sucks. They need to work on that the drafting and everything else. They need to add every track in the future for nascar and every car from Gen 1 to Gen 6. They need I make the tracks look like the tracks and get rid of the pit road walls and cones that aren’t there.
Stock car racing at Daytona is trash. Hit the wall, you're done for. Impossible to win, no matter what difficulty you choose. Only way I can think of winning is running 100-200 laps. Rest of the game, challenging but fun.
Can confirm. I don’t play this game because whenever you hit the wall, you stick there like fucking butter.
Where's Chevy and Toyota?