2 Sundown X12's on 8000W in a 2015 COROLLA Walkthrough
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ALSO, I TOOK THE BUILD OUT IN 2021.
2 Sundown X12's in the trunk
Taramps MD8k 2 ohm Edition
Taramps DS800x4 2 ohm edition for mids
SKAR SPX components up front, Pioneer 6x9's in the back
250A CES Alternator running at 13.8v (has since been upgraded to 14.8v, voltage in the video was hitting 12.5-6. With the current 14.8v regulator I don't see it go under 13v too often, even with more power on mids and bass)
45aH Limitless Lithium Battery, Duralast platinum AGM 55Ah up front.
Box is 3.97 cu. ft net tuned at 31Hz (33L x 15H x 28D), built by CustomLowZ (Yes it's too small, but I was also running well over double the rated power through them, smaller boxes give more box rise, and allow you to run more power without bottoming them out as easy with a lot of extra air space.)
Metered a 148.7db at 30Hz with "outlaw rules" (Meter in the kick, driver side door open)
**WHY I HAVEN'T SEALED IT OFF YET**
I'm lazy, and I don't plan on keeping this build in this car much longer. I can't really find a temporary seal that will hold up, plus I'm pretty happy with the wind as is. I may look more into a temporary seal but the blankets won't work anymore lol. I'm already breaking stuff on my basically brand new car with these subs, so I'm probably going to have to evacuate these sooner than I hoped, and switch to an SQ build, or something way smaller. I've already broken the passenger side window actuator, trunk latch, fuel pump, and a few other things, just with the bass as is. The next goal is 6 X12's in another vehicle some day, in either 6th or 4th order bandpass or something of that nature. But I'd rather buy some shitter and beat the hell out of that instead of my daily car that's only a few years old.
Things added since this video was recorded:
Upgraded to a Taramps MD12k .5 edition (tuned at 10k)
14.8V Charging Regulator added to the alternator
Deaf Bonce Arnold 6.5's in the rear
Deaf Bonce Sylvester 6'5's in the front, with SKAR SPX Tweets and crossovers
Upgraded to a Sundown SFB-500.4 for mids
SPL Cartel Mini Bass Knob
Songs in order they are played during the video:
24 box - bigpimpin91
21 Savage - X (Official BassBooster Version)
Bones - Where the trees meet the freeway
Big Krit - Talkin bout nothin
Riff Raff & G-eazy - Mercedes
Also no more window videos, I think I fucked something up or set an alarm off inside, because they started parking cars there ever since I recorded this lmao.
I have a 14’ Focus and I’m putting one of the x12s in there from what I’ve seen they slam HARD this video itself sealed the deal for me I know what I want 😂
Hell yea, glad i can sway people towards the X series lol. Even just my 1 would move a decent amount of air.
GuitarHeroGage any chance you could pull off hair tricks with just one?
@@kylereigel3709 a tad bit, i have a video on it, not nearly as much as i can with 2, but i could float some napkins and bags lol.
GuitarHeroGage my sub came in and I’m ready to build the box just wondering how many cubes your box for 1 of them had
@@kylereigel3709 2.5Cu ft net with a double baffle, and window bracing with 45's on all the corners, it was made from mdf, it did really well.
Me in the passenger seat: They hittin
Guy with hearing damage: WHAT
Me in the passenger seat: It’s sounds good
Guy with hearing damage: I don’t really like Chinese food that much but if you want to that cool
Me in the passenger seat with hearing damage: WHAT
😂😂😂
Seeing this makes me pumped up. Finishing my build next weekend. 2 x12, 2 sundown 3k’s, 3 battery’s, mechman 370Elite alt, 6cube box. Hope it beats like yours!
2 X12's be beatin', not sure how windy they will get, but if they are in a small car firing from the trunk into the cabin they will move quite a bit of air.
Get a 8k
How much would all this cost?
@@CelebrateCiggys Probably like 3-4 grand for all the main stuff and maybe a box. If you buy all of it new. I bought all of my stuff when some of the sales were going on.
@@GuitarHeroGage way more when u factor in all the nesasary ofc wires then fuses lithium 45ah then the aftermarket alternator the OFC wire needed for that on top of the fuse then you want to start adding in interior speakers you’re talking 10 grand easy unless you’re customizing and installing all of it yourself then you got to add the money for the box 9 times out of 10 it has to be customized made box because 2.5 ft.³ yes you can get away with 2 -2.5 Each even not having the box custom-made is $900 for Birch material prefab telling u cuz I’m doing it now
Only fuck up is I got the V2 not the V3 they were the same price point so I was speeding fucked up in the process of getting the correct V3’s
Right on man with all that wind you got a nice hair dryer.
Box seems small for them subs but hey if it sounds good that’s all that matters!! 👍🏾
Smaller box helps with all the power im running through them, so i don't mind it.
It is, recommended airspace for 1 of those is 2.5 cuft
@@amanteapasionado6836 What hes saying is that all that resistance with the smaller box keeps the subs from bottoming out when sending more power. #tricks
Damm they slapping ....💪hard
How many watts are you feeding it..
@@amanteapasionado6836 *3.5
I can tell you this I have a 8k taramps on the same 12s and I really think they are underrated they can take a lot of power and don't even smell
Really thinking about getting one of these 👌🏻
Damn! They slam properly 👌🏻
Beautiful enclosure by Justin at Custom Lowz he built mine for me 4 Memphis Mojo 12’s Awesome work and the enclosure makes all the difference! Great video Awesome demo!!! 🔊🔊🔊💯💯💯💪💪💪
How much is a box to be custom made for one of them
@@jakobmiller8020 for the vehicle? or the 4 subs?
Just for the sub I just need one to fit the back of an extended cab truck, 20”depth 18”height,32”width is the room I got when I take out the left back seat but if I could get a flush custom fit that’d be dope too.
@@jakobmiller8020 you should contact Justin @CustomLowz
Awesome System 👌🏾 Clean Setup Keep Slapping
Damn that shit hittin!!!
Those 12s are moving as much air as 18s holy shit
damn can't wait until I have my 15" installed
Whoever inside that building be thinking oh shit there's an earthquake!
Amazing setup !!!
I know this video is 2 years old, but they say not to mount the Amp to the box, bc of all the vibration. Knocks stuff loose inside the Amp, or it can.
Yes it can, Taramps however glue the shit out of the insides for some reason. I'm assuming they know people are doing that. The anti-vibration feet helped negate it as well, but I didn't have anywhere else to mount the amp, so that was the only spot.
LIKE YOUR STYLE!!!! WISH I COULD HEAR IT....
It you want your system to bump, Sundown audio nough said!!! 😎
Would I still get deep bass facing the subs into the cabin?
Depends on the car, but i can play down to 19hz no problem.
Super setup!😎😎💪🏻
You doing good when the windows to the house vibrate. The only thing I would have done was get a center port on the box.
How is the limitless holding up...? I run my whole truck on the lithium I did away with the under hood battery... I've not heard a lot of problems with these batteries so I was just curious if you had any issues with it yet
So far i havent had any issues with it.
Mids n high are out. This that high- bred shit, no gas needed just vib o. Down the road....long pause....brohhh!
Very knowledgeable young man
I love that box and the 12s boss I want sundown but can fit just a set of 12s lol
Their smaller subs are no joke too. I've seen the X8's and X6's in person and they slam. But they are also massive. But they also have the SA series which are a bit smaller as well.
Nice setup, once I heard Rasberry Pi, that would be sick.
Yea I used it as a temperature sensor, but i kept losing connection to the sensor. I just think it couldn't handle the pressure lol. Not worth taking the subs out to put a new sensor in, it sucks putting them in while the box is in the trunk.
Killerolla!!!
Hows the subs? 4k on each? I thought the max rms for theses was around 3k pushing it? I bought one but after hearing my box builders 2skars in a 4th order im buying another x12. Hows the taramps amp as well? I was going to buy one buy was kinda scared away so i bought a cab45. If these can take that much power im buying another cab 45 as well. Amazing set up man. Subbed
It wasn't actually getting 4k RMS to each, I'd say it was most likely getting 2.5k to each because of box rise. I do have them on a 12k at .5 and they could be getting 3-4k each though. They can definitely take it, but you have to be mindful of what you're playing (such as gain overlap, tuning, and who made the song). I don't mind Taramps, both of my big amps have been Taramps and they haven't had any issues. I hear CAB is good though so you're fine with them as well. But you won't actually get 4.5k out of that CAB due to box rise. Depending on how the subs handle the enclosure and how it was made, usually x2+ is normal. Unless you're running that cab at below .5 ohms, you'll probably get like 3k or less.
I know I’m late to watching this video but I am about to put this same setup in an 06 accord. The only thing I’m worried about is my suspension in my trunk. How does yours ride?
Fine for me, I don't notice any difference.
I gotta 2016 corolla lowered on coil overs with a blow through box and I’m not rubbing. It doesn’t give me problems at all and I’m pretty low myself
good man !
keep up the work !
God damn that shits smashing!!! Windy for 2 12s!
Tune your box to 23-25
Perfectttttttt
That sound good main, clean up them wires tho. Justin is the shit dude for real. If i did not do all my own work, enclosures, fabrication, i would only let justin build my stuff. I have ocd and im a perfectionist and super picky and justin is still the best i have seen. Custom lowz ho!
Quick question late it seems. I have a hyndai veloster turbo with big 3 power bastards alt, 0 gage all the way back to a deep cell battery, dc audio 3.5k amp, had sundown xv2 1500 rms sub. Have you ever had issue with bass kicking your traction control on with hard bass?
I have a 2015 corolla, ive never had that happen, i know Hyundai's have a lot of electrical issues, you may want to check grounds, and voltage drop or something.
Is there a way to cut off the lithium when the car is off? I have some bms that I can program to only turn on when it senses voltage coming in. That way it only connects the packs when the car is on.
Not that I know of, but you could get a battery isolator if were that concerned about it.
BUT, the real question
Can you even beat Through the Fire and Flames on expert bro?
Yea pretty easily lol, my highest score I ever got on the song was 835k, but I havent played that song in years. There's better dragonforce songs to play.
Hey get rid of the limitless battery and get you some good lithium bro. I would love to see how your voltage drops. I’m pretty sure it’s significant. My 96ah headway bank on a 256 amp alt from eBay keeps my voltage at 13.9-14.6 on 4 SAV2 12s and a sundown 8k. I watched your vid because I’m switching to U15s or X12s v2 but just watching your vid when you first started Playing the first song you can see the difference in the power after a few seconds judging from the rag you had in the window. I went with headway because it’s budget friendly. But there’s definitely better options out there. But headway will out perform that limitless battery every day.
Headways literally use the same chemistry as limitless blues lol.... Both are just LiFePO4 cells. My limitless was 45Ah, if I had 96Ah of Limitless, it would have been the exact same as yours (you can Google both of them, hell Limitless may even use headway cells for all I know). The difference between the songs are the gain overlaps, my cars peak was 30Hz, I got the most air movement at 26-29Hz. The first song was 24Hz@-5db, the 2nd was 29Hz@0db. I kept my gain overlap at -3db, so the 2nd song was clipping super hard, not all songs are made the same if you're using different artists/rebassers. The first song was just to show off the flex of the subs. The lowest I would get my voltage was to 12.6V from 13.9V (0db songs would easily do that, but they are clipping, so I never played them for long). Taramps are rated at 12.6V keep in mind. I no longer have this build in the car, but I definitely knew what I was doing...
love it
Planning a similar build. Was upgrading from the 8k worth?
Yea, its a bit windier, but with the way its tuned right now im probably only clamping 2-3k more than I was before, which is probably only like 7k-8k total. This box has quite a bit of rise because it's so small, I was rising to like 5 ohms - 5.5 ohms from 2 ohms with my 8k. The MD12k does have a .5 stable version though which helps fight the rise, if you wanted to go all out then you can get the MD12k, But you definitely have to be mindful of the songs you are playing, even with the 8k you have to be careful, because the max these things will take in a daily is around ~3k RMS each from what i've heard.
How did they take the power? I have two on a salt 4K and was thinking about picking up one more and strapping them to a .5 ohm load to each amp.. (1ohm strapped) also have mine in a 11 Corolla..
They handled it fine, but it depends on your gain overlap I suppose. I set mine at -3db and i could play -5db and -7.5db songs all day. But songs that run -3db I can only play 1 song, most likely was getting 3-4k into each sub on those songs (with my MD12k at .5), so you just have to play with it and figure out it's limits. I also have a taramps amp with a lot of box rise, and a box that's way too small for them. So 2 salt 4k's at .5 could probably be their limit. Worse case you can get upgraded softparts if you blow them lol.
Your on stock alt?
Nah, im on a 250a Ces alternator. I had a 13.8V regulator in this video. But I have a 14.8V regulator now now.
I have a 2019 Corolla. I just ordered the first x12, I’m gonna get another x12 and a Bobby Gately box. I need help on what amp/s and what alternator/batteries to buy what do you guys recommend
I had a 250a alternator, and if you're wanting to run serious power, I'd look at lithium batteries. I'd get limitless lithium personally (blue version, LiFePO4). You could get LTO cells, but you usually need 16V charging for those I think. I'm not sure how the car would react to that. My RPMs also drop from time to time when there's a load on the alternator, but I haven't had any other issues besides that. Amp wise, all depends on the budget, but if you have the money, I'd get the sundown SALT series, maybe a 6k-8k. Any Korean built amp you can't really go wrong with. Taramps are a good cheap alternative, but they are also cheap for a reason, I had 2 and never had issues with them though. I've seen JP's amps doing pretty good things, maybe those wouldn't be too bad either.
@@GuitarHeroGage What brand alt do you have?
I’ll order that limitless you recommended thanks
I was thinking of the salt-4 to stay on budget but it’s probably not enough for those subs huh ?
@@GuitarHeroGage I’ve used taramps before as well I had the smart 3 for two Skar evl 10s it was a solid amp but it does draw a lot of power
@@PincheBeto_Bass I have a CES, but it was built by Jonathan who runs Brand X now. Brand X, Singer, and CES have always been the most recommended ones. Salt 4 is fine, but yea they can definitely take more, but it's a korean amp so it will not suck as much power as taramps do.
So what’s the benefit of firing subs inside just curious
A lot more air and pressure in the cabin usually, but technically it doesnt meter as good, but who cares? lol
@@GuitarHeroGage I dig that lol
How much did the box cost?
Around $400 somewhere in there. Was very expensive, but that was the highest package available, which included triple baffle flush mount, window bracing, kerf port, and 45's on all corners.
good to see subs firing into the cabin, not viceversa
It works the best in my car, facing it towards the trunk loses a lot of the low end.
Seal the sides off from the trunk. Will move more air and sound better.
@@krisoldaker4171 Maybe it would help if you would read the description.
@@krisoldaker4171 it actually wont
Hey where are you from if you don't mind me asking?
Quick question.. would 2 of these be to heavy in the trunk of a sport car?? ... Dodge Challenger for example...
Nah, They weigh like ~55 or so pounds each. My back does sag a tiny bit, but it doesn't affect anything.
Lol , I'm putting two X15's in my ford focus 😅 and two agm Batt also back there 😂
Song?
All in the description
Can u pls tell me which charging regulator u got or something similar for a 2015 Camry!
Not sure, I ordered my 14.8V from Brand X Electrical, you can hit them up on facebook and see if he has one for you. I think this is the one I got: brand-x-electrical.myshopify.com/products/14-6v-denso-hairpin-regulator-no-sense-for-adjustable-voltage
But double check and make sure you are getting the right one.
You slapping 🔊💨✅ Do the subs play normal music well or only rebassed & slowed 20-40Hz?
They don't really play normal music too well tbh, unless i find normal songs that are in the 20-40hz range they don't do too well. That's my only complaint with these, i was thinking of doing SPL recones if i blow them one day, that way i can get my 45Hz+ back.
GuitarHeroGage that was my concern, I still like that 40-60 Hz and don’t want a hole in the sound stage cuz the subs drop off so early. I have W7s now on maybe 1500 W & they do sound really good on most music so I don’t want to sacrifice that for just all lows & have to listen to Rebass music. My subs in a sealed box play a lot of these songs but obv w/ a lot less output than what you are doing. I can’t fold my seats down so I know that affects the output as well. Thx for the detailed response 💪✅
@@uptobatentertainment if you wanna have amazing bandwidth deaf bonce and Resilient sounds is good especially the RS onyx,platinum and teams. Onyx is really efficient doesn’t take a lot of power to get them moving and get loud which is really good. It’s normally about the box tbh but also the sub like as you can see here the sundown X series is mainly made for lows.
@@hbn_666 thx 🙏 I been looking at DD audio & Hutchinson car audio neo’s.. Will check out the resilient sounds heard a lot of ppl recommend them. I liked the DD & Hutchinson b/c the enclosures can fit in my trunk better. Anything over 3 cubes net won’t fit without building the box into the trunk which is slightly above my current pay grade 😂😆
If you haven't upgraded yet, try looking at DC Audio XL Elites. They're Sound Quality Loud subs. They play as low as the Sundown X but sound much better on music
Did you ever seal the trunk or did you just leave it like that?
Mostly left it like it was, although I did seal it up with a lot of pillows and blankets to do some meter runs, and it helped on the meter. Didn't really sound a whole lot louder to me or move more air. Plus I planned on taking it out, so I didn't want to build a great stuff wall or something and it be a nightmare to get out.
Super sick setup man, love the box. I'm debating putting a single xv12 or 2 sa12s in my accord summer 2022
If you like real low lows, i'd get an X12, but they don't have good high range, if you want a good range, i'd get the SA's.
@@GuitarHeroGage I am looking for range more-so over lows. Thanks man!
@@ethanedington9791 SA's will still get pretty low, just wont play as loudly as the X's, Sundows subs are great regardless lol.
i have two sa 12s on a taramps smart 3k wired to 1 ohm. its very nice, i may be able to answer questions u have with the subs or my system
What’s the measurements on that port? I’m building a box soon. The subs call for 40square inch but can’t find anything on a dual enclosure
Good question, I don't remember. I calculated it when I first got it, and i feel like it was in the 50's-60's. Definitely smaller than recommended though, not sure what sundown recommends though. Although they have used to have some pre-fab designs on their site you could download, maybe if they are still there you could pull one up. Or just contact sundown, their support is really nice, they may be able to answer.
Yea I looked and couldn’t find specs on their site but I was thinking like 60 would be fine. That’s about 4.61x13. Box itself is 31x14.5x30 giving me right at 5cubes. Hoping it sounds as good as yours appears on here. I’ll be running the salt4 with them and the box tune at 31hz
@@0XxDOMESHOTxX0 Should be fine, the 31Hz tune is where it's at, these subs have a very unique sound that even the ZV's don't have. If you like 19-36hz, they are great.
GADD and I will send you a lot of people who have been working on the other day and I will be able to do this for
Thats clean bro💪🏽😎 I have a 2015 corolla as well. Currently installing two zv5 10 d2s. Kinda on the fence between sfb amps or taramps🤔
I have a SFB3K on 1 X12v2, I abuse it daily and it literally never gets hot. So far the amp is SOLID
Hey bro what's an sfb amp
@@theoreotisanderson8617 its a sundown amp and it's there amp line called sundown full bridge .
@@teamtalib1209 any update on that amp ?
@@IslandVader946 everyone has their own experience but I have a sfb 5k I’ve been running for around a year and a half. It’s been abused daily even through hot summer days and has never given me any issues. Feed a sfb solid electrical/tune it right and it’ll do you right
Please post your eq settings I need help for good overal audio with my 2 12 rockford fosgate punch sub
My eq is flat, if you mean the gain, its all dependent on the amp, you can just look up how to tune your amp theres a lot of videos
What did you use to space the amp off the box link possibly?
DB Werx vibration isolators. They've been sold out for a while sadly, not sure when they will come back in stock.
What’s the name of the song?? I’ve been hearing it a lot lately and now it’s stuck in my head lol
Not sure which one you mean, but here's all of them in order in the video.
24 box - bigpimpin91
21 Savage - X (Official BassBooster Version)
Bones - Where the trees meet the freeway
Big Krit - Talkin bout nothin
Riff Raff & G-eazy - Mercedes
🔥🔥
this is nice but no way i would have a setup like this I can't even handle mine and I only got 2 kicker comp 12 with a 1600-watt kicker amp you should compete
I wanted to, but got tired of it real quick, i took everything out lol.
@@GuitarHeroGage oh ok man am selling my kickers getting 2 10,s
Building my rolla. Im definitely upgrading my car battery. Getting 2 xfl american base & 3k amp. Think its necessary to add an extra battery & upgrade alternator??
Always a good idea, the 2015 corolla only has a 100 Amp alt from what I've seen. I've always heard after 2000W RMS you need to get a new battery. Realistically you'll probably only get like 2.3k max RMS out of that thing unless you wire it into the dirt, so you could be fine just upgrading the front battery. But i'd hook up a volt meter and see what the drop looks like. It idles at 13.8V so if it starts getting into low 12's you need to do more for power.
I am getting mine soon
I got my 2 x12’s and a sfb 5000 and was jamming and I’m less then 20 minutes my fuses blow
How did you blow fuses? How did that match workout? 5k to 3k subs.
Nice
Nice video, what do you have a that md12.5 wired down to?
in the video the MD8k was at 2 ohm, its the 2ohm version amp. My MD12k i have it at .5, and its the .5 edition amp.
GuitarHeroGage thanks
@@GuitarHeroGage make a video with the 12k please
How many cubic ft is that box and what is it tuned to
I'm trying to do a build in my center console for 2 of them but I only have 3.5 cubic ft max. They will be ran by a Salt 4k
3.97 Cu Ft, sundown recommends 2.5 each though. Im also running like 3x the power that they are rated for through them
@@GuitarHeroGage whats your port volume?
I just built my box 3.7cu net, with 34cu in of port volume tuned at 32hz. My xv3 12's dont hit as hard as my U12s.
I think I need more port volume, sundown recommends 40cu inch or more for x's
@@jesseh9174 No idea, I had someone else build the box, all i know is that it was 3.97cu ft net tuned at 31Hz. There could be other factors as well, maybe the box is facing the wrong direction for lows? The X series don't play that well above 40Hz, so you may need to get you some music with LOW lows, maybe check your subsonic filter? Hard to say, but I hear the U's are very musical, way better than the X for normal listening.
@@GuitarHeroGage I'm going to built another box with more port area around 58cu in tuned to 34hz. My current box port seems way to small.
Subsonic is at 25, lpf at 60.
@@jesseh9174 Could be, might as well try it if you have the resources for it.
Would the Taramps 5K Bass work for 2 of these subs? Also why did you go with the MD amp instead of the Bass model amp?
I've always just heard the MD series were better, yes a Bass 5k would work on these, just be careful on how you tune it.
@@GuitarHeroGage now that I think about It might just be the MD 5000 it’s actually cheaper than the bass line. Do you think the 5000 MD would under power the X?
@@ssharp7803 1? no, 2, probably, depends on the rise though. I had a lot of rise, my MD8k in this video was only clamping about 5k.
@@GuitarHeroGage alright thanks for the fast reply... This is My last question I promise man lol... why the hell does it have 2 options to choose for the amp 1 ohm and 2 ohm i though this was dependent on how the amp is wired.
@@ssharp7803 Sorry for the late response. full bridge amps are capable of making big power with higher ohm loads, so you should get what your final sub wiring will be. Just do not wire your subs below the amps rated ohm load, for example if you get a 2ohm taramps amp, and you wire the subs down to 1 ohm final, that could kill your amp.
I saw a hyndi veloster with a big taramps sticker on the back yesterday
What are the d2 for subs? How much power are they seeing
in this video, RMS was like 5.5k clamped at 2 ohms. My MD12k at .5, i'd like to say around 7 or 8k, but i havent clamped it yet.
my man, where do you get those beefy power terminal blocks on the amp? Sweet setup dude
I got them from a place called "ILL Customz" they are special made for taramps amps, regular dual inputs dont reach far enough into the terminal and they could slip out.
why is the car idling at 2500 rpm?
It wasn't idle, i was holding the gas there, the alternator puts out its rated amps at 2500-3000
Wats box tuned to..???
31Hz
What’s the box specs trying to build one just like it ??
33Lx15Hx28D
Have you tried turning the box around for better sound? Having it fire towards the rear?
Yes, i lose a lot of the low end and wind, and it doesn't sound better in my case. I'm sure its louder on the meter, but not worth losing the lows and wind.
Nices setup, I was wondering what type of screws did you use for the sub.
#14 1-1/2" screws.
@@GuitarHeroGage what was the low pass for the subs and high pass for the Sylvester midrange?
@@riveralley I have my LPF on my subs set to 63Hz, and the HPF on my Sylvester's and arnolds are at 100hz
@@GuitarHeroGage What about 63hz to 100hz? Do you have anything between there?
@@riveralley No, i don't really listen to music that plays above 50hz anyway. X series don't play above 50hz very well at all, you might as well cut it off in the 60's. Unless you get the right box, but it would probably have to be a bandpass to bring the highs out.
I have a 2018 Honda Accord and want to upgrade my system. I’m looking to get some sun downs subs but don’t know which ones to go with? Want something where they’ll here me blocks away … also what amp would go well with it and will I have to upgrade battery and alternator?
Depends on what kind of music you listen to and how much you want to spend. But the Sundown U's are the more musical version of the X series. Low frequencies you cant hear too well from far away, so the X series may not be the best. U or SA would be pretty good for getting really loud. Amp wise, I'm not sure anymore who makes the best amps. Korean amps: Sundown, JP (Down4sound), and Crescendo are pretty good. Brazilian amps: Banda and Taramps are like the only ones I know, they both do well. If you plan to run over 1500W, you for sure need to look into alt and battery upgrades. Brand X makes some of the best alts right now, and may not be a bad idea to look into lithium if you want to run some serious power.
@@GuitarHeroGage do you think going with a single 15” would be better ?
@@elolam9514 Hard to say, depends on the setup. You will have more cone area with 2 12's though, you'll probably move more air.
@@GuitarHeroGage oh okay cause I wasn’t sure if to go with a big box for a single 15” or 2 ,12”s on the same sized box
@@elolam9514 I think you'd like 2 12's better, you can run more power into those and get more wind. But if you cant make like 4000-6000w of RMS power for the 12's, maybe a 15 isn't a bad idea.
Can we get some more videos with outside flex.....nice setup bro
Does it handle that power well or do you have to let it cool down?
Depends on what I'm playing. If I play stuff that gets them going at full power, I can really only play them for about a couple minutes before I can smell them. In this video the 21 savage song, and the bones song are right at the clipping point (-3). I can't play those for long.
But if its songs that are below the clipping point at like -7.5db, I could play it for hours with no problem, they just don't move as much air as the songs that nearly clip, but they still move a lot of air.
Is it because the sundown x series are low distorted subs and not spl peaky like other subs?
Looks like a very solid setup, and I haven't seen the subs playing yet.
Did you install all of your gear?
I have heard mixing battery chemistry should avoided.
Delete that front battery and run wire to the front. Looks like you got the skills to knock that out no problem.
NO, just no. Because of voltage drop.... You NEED the battery in the front! I mix Gel and AGM and get superior performance. For the video poster, Lithium at the amp, and lead acid at the engine is fine.
@@crusinwired you do not need a battery up front. Cars have batteries in the rear new from the factory. Also, gel and AGM are the same chemistry. AGM and lithium are different chemistry and should not be installed together.
Voltage drop has absolutely nothing to do with battery location.
@@WifeBTR123 Some Mercedes and BMW for example do have rear batteries, and also heavy wiring, and electronics near the battery, aka designed for it. You will have better cranking and ECU performance having some type of battery up front, and it also aids the alternator with "filtering" the dc output from the alternator. You can substitute a capacitor for a battery up front, but a battery is better. Also, you can parallel lead and Lithium for over-discharged conditions to "trick" the internal BMS of the Lithium to allow charging again, for Lithiums that refuse charging. Speaking from experience and not "I heard" The charging system of a car is 14.4v cold, 13.8V hot, and the battery chemistry doesn't matter as long as system voltage is properly regulated by a proper alternator. BTW, Gel is slightly different than AGM, as AGM prefers higher voltage, and Gel performs down to lower voltages a bit better, which is why they are best used for mobility equipment. AGM paralled with Gel gives you more cranking amps and better deep cycling. Same if you parallel Lead and Lithium.
@@crusinwired Gel and AGM is the same thing?
@@215sinakia7 Gel uses silica in acid between plates AGM uses fiberglass
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How's that CES Alt treating you?
Haven't had any issues with it.
Where did u get the box again is tjere a link to the web site or something thanks
facebook.com/CustomLowzEnclosures
You can hit him up on facebook, but be warned the wait time is a little crazy sometimes, it took me a few months to get this box.
GuitarHeroGage dont have facebook or any of those things kind old school here lol any other way
@@10krms8 www.customlows.com/
That's his website, i think you can place an order on there.
Sounds good I bet. Would you go with zv6 12s if you could? Or keep what you have?
I'd go with ZV6 yea, but way out of my budget lol.
@@GuitarHeroGage ... you know I was thinking the same exact thing. I really would like the new zv6 but the price is too high. I was thinking of getting 2 x12v3. But not sure if I would be making the right choice. Or should I save more money and get the zv6
@@superior3384 Z series are a tad bit more musical, but X's get way lower.
@@GuitarHeroGage ... I listen to nothing but bass . The deeper the better. So for me I would probably be happier with the x series then.
@@GuitarHeroGage ... I just learned that the new sundown x12v3 has the zv5 magnet and the zv5 coil. So I'm going for the new x12v3. I'm excited. I just need to upgrade everything else all over again
I better stop driving around with my 600w like Im the shit before I get "8K'd".
That shit slumps bro.
Same here! 😆
Have you tried facing the box to the rear?
Yes, I lose a lot of my low end and wind, and it ended up being about the same on the meter, so i just flipped it back around.
GuitarHeroGage hmmm ok, I may end up trying to face my box forward as well then
How much did this entire set up cost you
Everything including electrical, prob 3-4 grand, got some stuff on sale as well.
@@GuitarHeroGage Thank you for answering that question
Are these v2or v3
v2
How are the x12s holding up?
Still going good
what are your box specs?
in the description.
I have 2 sundown x12 on a sundown 3k amp blow through on a crew cab Silverado 08
Those subs can handle more then the rated 1500 watts?
most sundown audio can handle a lot more than the rated watts
Just an FYI welding cable is Significantly smaller than wire from Sky High or car audio wire. They sell car audio wire as 1/0 or 2/0 but it’s oversized by a long shot. I went to tractor supply to get Lugs for Sky high 1/0 cable and the 3/0 welding cable Lugs were the only ones that fit. Now I have SHCA 2/0 and I haven’t tried to buy lugs for those at tractor supply. Just got the SHCA lugs for them though but I would guess 2/0 would be about 5/0 or 6/0 welding cable size. I’m sure you know this already, but fucking wicked setup brah. Good shit.
2/0 welding is the same strand count as 1/0 car audio cable, but the jacket is thicker on 1/0 car audio cable, and the copper is a lot softer. I did already know that. But yea the rule of thumb is double for the lug size, so 2/0 car audio wire is 4/0 welding, and so on.
GuitarHeroGage I get what you’re saying. But I’m not talking about the jacket. I had to use 3/0 Lugs. There was absolutely no way in hell my Sky High OFC 1/0 gauge would fit 2/0 Welding Lugs. I had to take them back to tractor supply. I tried and tried and tried, it wasn’t happening without cutting the wire.
Nice vid and system. Since you have the 2 ohm version, what’s your final load to the amp?
2 ohm, but i was rising to like 4.7 i think. Im running an MD12k .5 edition now, i haven't clamped the rise yet.
@@GuitarHeroGage Still haven't clamped the 12K?
@@GuitarHeroGage where'd you get the box from
@@dcaddell1505 CustomLowZ, look them up on facebook
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What’s the box net cf?
3.97 cu. ft net
It’s a little small. They love 2.5 CF per sub. But it looks like your maxed out size wise to fit in the trunk. Nice box though.
@@bpintogsxr1000 Smaller boxes help when you're running triple the power into them, less likely to bottom out.
Can you hear the words of the song?
Yes, but in the video you can't, the bass distorts the microphone really bad. My mids were able to be heard from at least 8 car lengths away clear as day, they were honestly too loud.
@@GuitarHeroGage goals
I almost got the same set up! I have JS 250 amp alternator big 3 Taramps md 8k 40 ah limitless lithium Toro 4channel. Currently running a Sundown zv3 18" But I just order the 1st out of 2 of the 15" Sundown xv2 subs! Going to do them on a wall! Anyway I I subscribed! I do car audio video's also! Check out my latest video with BoomDaddy demo! Major door flex! He has 4 American bass elites in a 4th order! On Taramps md 8k! Brand X 350 alternator 2 marine batteries!👊😎💨💨💨💯👍
what do you think about taramps amps?
I like them, i've seen people complain, but they've been good for me. I had an Orion HCCA5000 and it had a different sound to it for sure (people say clean korean power). But I still needed more power and just went with an MD12k instead of dropping well over $1500 on a korean 8k+. If you can afford Korean i'd go with one, otherwise taramps, soundigital, and banda are great alternatives.
GuitarHeroGage Would you go with a sundown sfb 8k over the taramps MD 8k?
Almost
What’s the name of the song?
I put then in order in the description